House passes bill to ban 'partial birth' abortion

[Nie Trink Wasser]

how can I find the actual vote stats on this ?



WASHINGTON -- The House on Thursday confronted again the question of whether to ban a type of abortion procedure that opponents call partial-birth abortion.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2003/10/02/house_votes_on_bill_to_ban_partial_birth_abortion/

[jj]

Is it worded well enough this time that it won't ban life-saving proceedures in medical emergencies.

The last law that somebody tried to pass like this would have made a doctor who saved a mom's life in some circumstances (when the child would be dead anyhow) a murderer.

Is this one better written?

[ssibal]

Originally posted by jj
Is this one better written?

I would say no, since it is banning a form of abortion.

[Pyrrho]

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
how can I find the actual vote stats on this ?

http://clerk.house.gov/legisAct/votes.php

[headscratcher4]

Between this and the Patriot Act, we are looking more like Communist Rumania everyday.

[Stig]

For those who have witnessed a birth ( I watched my daughter being born), it surely must seem almost inconcievable that an abortion could take pace at this stage.

I am not anti-abortion but it really would have to be life or death for the mother for this to be acceptable.

So as long as the doctors couldn't be prosecuted when the mothers life is in danger and he carried out the killing of the baby then the law seems OK.

Stig

[athon]

I think anything post second trimester that is not done for life saving reasons is criminal. Personally, I feel that the third trimester (the 20 week viability threshold is getting close, medically speaking) is a good time to call a baby 'viable', and from there it should have full human rights. In other words, should it suffer injury or death without due reason, those responsible should be held accountable.

If we're talking termination, there is little reason why a person should be making that choice past the end of the first three months anyway.

Athon
(pro-choice, with above rationalization)

[Chaos]

I completely concur with athon in this. However, I would make sure that every woman/girl is properly educated (in medical things) that they realize they´re pregnant well before this 3-month-deadline is over. Even in first-world countries there are still a number of cases each year where a girl or young woman goes to hospital with a "severe bellyache" and comes back with a baby.

[corplinx]

I am a moral darwinist on the abortion topic yet even I am appalled by an "extraction" procedure like this. I think if we make abortion legal for most of the 9 months then in turn the weak willed and the stupid will have less babies. In other words, less democrats will be born.

However, I find this is really a symbolic bill since there aren't many of these procedures. I appreciate government taking a stand and drawing a line in the sand but alas that is mostly what it is.