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TobiasTheViking
27th March 2008, 06:03 AM
As some of you may know(i am want to moan and complain often) i have chronic back pains.. Have had them all my life.

My back always hurts, constantly.. I sometimes(rarely) wake up at night from the pain. I rarely fall asleep easily because of the pain, it is a fight.

I can't jump on a trampoline.

About 14 months ago i was walking home from a party, slipped on some ice, and couldn't walk for 3 days.

About 10 months ago i went to a Red Warszawa concert, couldn't walk for a week. I literally had people pick me up, buy beer for me, and drive me to the party, just so i could be there... A few times during that week.

I often go to the Roskilde Festival, but i can barely make one concert from the pain, and if it is raining, i can't lie down on the ground for a rest.

Something as simple as walking down some stairs, and thinking there is a step more(or less) than there really is. And my back is destroyed for the rest of the day (if i actually trip it is the next day as well, usually).

So, had x-rays done, gone to chiropractor(many many years ago, and it wasn't one of the really woo ones). Chiropractor didn't work, x-rays were inconclusive.

Finally, back in December, my doc send me to physio, and we've been working on my back since then.

Then, in the beginning of february, something amazing happened. While lying on the floor, doing some exercises, I could suddenly feel my back.
Do you have any idea how amazing it is to be able to say "hey, i can feel my back".

Sure, i knew i had it before, but i couldn't feel it, could only feel the pain. The pain masked any sensation of actually having a back.

That was the second time in my 25 years of life i had tried that.. The first was in 98, ten years ago(well, 9.5 years, but 10 sounds better).

I can't possibly put into words how amazing this is, now, twice a week, i actually get to have half a day where my back isn't hurting like having Kurious Kathy as your constant companion.

And the stretches of time after physio where i don't have pain are increasing.

Sure, i may have to work out 3(only doing two right now) days a week for the rest of my life, but, hey, that isn't really bad. Also, 3 hours a week, to be pain free(maybe all the time, maybe only half the time)..

Damn it, it is so worth it.

Sorry for this egocentric post, but, well... Good news should be shared, if i don't, then i don't get to enjoy it. Me, i enjoy walking over bridges, because i was once scared of heights, now i'm not, if i don't enjoy it, then why the hell beat it?

Sincerely
Tobias Ussing
Back hurting, but physio tomorrow :)

Blue Wode
27th March 2008, 08:26 AM
Glad your back’s feeling a lot better, Tobias.

Apparently physios are well on their way to being the (science-based) Doctors of Tomorrow regarding back pain/musculoskeletal disorders…

…if chiropractic fails to specialize in an appropriate
manner, there may be no justification for the existence
of chiropractic when there are an adequate number of
physical therapists providing manipulative therapy. Many
physical therapists are now using manipulation/mobilization
techniques. Of the 209 physical therapy programs in
the US, 111 now offer Doctor of Physical Therapy (DPT)
degrees28. Some of these programs have been opened
to qualified chiropractors. According to the American
Physical Therapy Association34,

“…Physical therapy, by 2020, will be provided by
physical therapists who are doctors of physical therapy
and who may be board-certified specialists. Consumers
will have direct access to physical therapists in all environments
for patient/client management, prevention, and
wellness services. Physical therapists will be practitioners
of choice in patients’/clients’ health networks and will
hold all privileges of autonomous practice…”

http://jmmtonline.com/documents/HomolaV14N2E.pdf




More on why the future's looking bright for physios here:
http://ph-ms.ouhsc.edu/ah/rehab/kinsinger.wmv

Soapy Sam
27th March 2008, 01:49 PM
You have to watch physios. They think pain is "often useful" and have a bizarre sense of humour.
I could tell you stories...

Good you're making progress, Toby.

Elvis666
27th March 2008, 02:20 PM
Sure, i may have to work out 3(only doing two right now) days a week for the rest of my life, but, hey, that isn't really bad. Also, 3 hours a week, to be pain free(maybe all the time, maybe only half the time)..

I have to work out that much to keep the arthritis at bay, so it's really not that bad. That's about what most medicos recommend, half-hour a day.

Congratulation on the improvement. :clap:

TobiasTheViking
27th March 2008, 08:57 PM
:D

Well, each session is an hour, but it would be (with thrice a week) 1/2 hours a day :)

Corpse Cruncher
29th March 2008, 03:48 AM
As some of you may know(i am want to moan and complain often) i have chronic back pains.. Have had them all my life.

My back always hurts, constantly.. I sometimes(rarely) wake up at night from the pain. I rarely fall asleep easily because of the pain, it is a fight.

.Finally, back in December, my doc send me to physio, and we've been working on my back since then.

Then, in the beginning of february, something amazing happened. While lying on the floor, doing some exercises, I could suddenly feel my back.
Do you have any idea how amazing it is to be able to say "hey, i can feel my back".

Sure, i knew i had it before, but i couldn't feel it, could only feel the pain. The pain masked any sensation of actually having a back.

That was the second time in my 25 years of life i had tried that.. The first was in 98, ten years ago(well, 9.5 years, but 10 sounds better).

I can't possibly put into words how amazing this is, now, twice a week, i actually get to have half a day where my back isn't hurting like having Kurious Kathy as your constant companion.

And the stretches of time after physio where i don't have pain are increasing.

Sure, i may have to work out 3(only doing two right now) days a week for the rest of my life, but, hey, that isn't really bad. Also, 3 hours a week, to be pain free(maybe all the time, maybe only half the time)..

Damn it, it is so worth it.

Sorry for this egocentric post, but, well... Good news should be shared, if i don't, then i don't get to enjoy it. Me, i enjoy walking over bridges, because i was once scared of heights, now i'm not, if i don't enjoy it, then why the hell beat it?

Sincerely
Tobias Ussing
Back hurting, but physio tomorrow :)

The thing with Physio's is they understand the whole not the sum parts as some other Doctors do.

My physio sessions are torture but worth the agony in the long run. Mine are working on both the core muscles, very slowly, so I can gain more support for my weakened back and internals. It is surprising how easily it is to neglect the core muscles. I have no supporting muscle structure, mine have deteriorated that badly in some areas and in others the muscles have locked solidly in compensation.

What I found the most beneficial, and again the core group come into effect here; is my left leg. With the blood clot causing problems and the muscle wasting I had to that area. Like Tobias feeling his back, my having a leg that now points forward when I walk is beyond words of explanation. It's like WOW but with more pizazz. Simple things like walking correctly now have eased allot of pain for me. The fluid retention has gone down, not much but it has gone down, so somethings working far more efficiently than it has ever down with pills and potions. Who knows maybe my nerves will begin to work again in the areas they don't. Again, like Tobias, it is something I have to do for the rest of my life.

With my back my internal cyst was, and once again is, pushing on both the spinal canal that the sciatic nerve that runs to the left leg. Anybody who gets sciatica will testify to the pain that causes, I can testify that being crushed internally is no walk in the park either. However I can at least try and cushion this blow with supporting muscles.

I will advocate what my physio says, support the core and it will support you for life. A simple exercise that reaps huge benefits. Hail the Lord of Chocolate to that.:D

TobiasTheViking
29th March 2008, 10:20 AM
:)

Dancing David
30th March 2008, 05:45 AM
Yeah!

I don't see a physio but through strengthening and streching I haven't had bad back pain for about 5 years.

I tore my psoas a long long time ago.

Darat
30th March 2008, 05:57 AM
You have to watch physios. They think pain is "often useful" and have a bizarre sense of humour.
I could tell you stories...

Good you're making progress, Toby.


Have to agree with both parts of this.


After being the victim of physiotherapists since I was about 13 I have grown to have an abiding hatred of the sadistic bastards! Don't care what good the do they like to hurt you and worse make you hurt yourself!


Slightly more seriously suffering from ankylosing spondylitis for a few decades and having a severe back injury a long time ago I sympathize with anyone who has constant back pain and yes I would recommend more people try the option of a physiotherapist; they can really help with a lot of quite debilitating conditions.

TobiasTheViking
30th March 2008, 08:21 AM
I must be lucky with my physio, no pain.. well ok, not much pain anyways.

Darat
30th March 2008, 08:29 AM
Must be a fraud then.

TobiasTheViking
30th March 2008, 08:38 AM
heh :)