Oswald's ghost

[Alferd_Packer]

Has anyone seen this documentary by Robert Stone? it's supposed to debunk JFK conspiracy theories.

http://www.oswaldsghost.com/Site/Oswalds_Ghost_.html

oh, and check out the "Press Information" link. Notice how much Stone looks like an older Oswald

[Drudgewire]

Hehehe, the page has a link to Amazon's order page. The reviews are HILARIOUS!

It did not explain the single bullet theory (because scientifically it can't be explained)


http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/orly.jpg

Never thought I'd use that macro, but my God this just SCREAMS for it. :p

[Alferd_Packer]

Oh, noes, not the o rly owl! LOL

[Blender Head]

Does this film debunk Nelson Delgado, who either trained with or served with LHO, who says Lee was a poor shot?

[Drudgewire]

Does this film debunk Nelson Delgado, who either trained with or served with LHO, who says Lee was a poor shot?
Don't know yet. I'm just now starting to downlCOUGHCOUGH order it. ;)

[aofl]

Has anyone seen this documentary by Robert Stone? it's supposed to debunk JFK conspiracy theories.



This is the guy that did Guerilla: The Taking of Patty Hearst which is a great doc. Very effective and haunting use of the original Patty Hearst tapes. I think I'm going to have to watch this one.

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[WildCat]

I think the fact that Oswald's own brother was never in doubt that he did it is quite telling.

[Blender Head]

I think the fact that Oswald's own brother was never in doubt that he did it is quite telling.

He was obviously in on it.

And when I mean obviously, I mean not at all.

[Regnad Kcin]

Has anyone seen this documentary by Robert Stone? it's supposed to debunk JFK conspiracy theories.JFK conspiracy theories have been debunked ever since ever. Yet still the conspiranauts soldier on.

[johnny karate]

Does this film debunk Nelson Delgado, who either trained with or served with LHO, who says Lee was a poor shot?

I don't know if it has to, because Oswald's Marine Corps records already did the job.

On December 21, 1956, Oswald scored a 212 out a possible 250 during a shooting test, ranking him as a sharpshooter in the Marine rifle ratings.

Source (http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo3/exhibits/anderson1.htm).

[Finnegan]

"JFK conspiracy theories have been debunked ever since ever. Yet still the conspiranauts soldier on."


Our history department proudly displays posters that inform us of 'the controversies and conspiracies that surround the assassination'.

[PhantomWolf]

I don't know if it has to, because Oswald's Marine Corps records already did the job.

On December 21, 1956, Oswald scored a 212 out a possible 250 during a shooting test, ranking him as a sharpshooter in the Marine rifle ratings.

Source (http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo3/exhibits/anderson1.htm).

Not only that, but he had practice rounds in records of 49 out of 50 and even one of 50 out of 50.

[Regnad Kcin]

"JFK conspiracy theories have been debunked ever since ever. Yet still the conspiranauts soldier on."


Our history department proudly displays posters that inform us of 'the controversies and conspiracies that surround the assassination'.What history department? Which conspiracy theories? Who produced these posters? Who placed them on the wall? Why?

Welcome to the forum.

[Finnegan]

England, enthusiastic teachers and they didn't even bother to name or detail theories. It's one of those, "Many people believe that Kennedy was shot by Oswald, HOWEVER..."

British conspiracy theorists rarely take a clear stance. The general consensus is that Oswald 'might' not have acted alone, the Turin Shroud 'could possibly' be genuine and the Illuminati 'may very well be' tightening their febrile stranglehold on the world.

Thanks for the welcome,

Finnegan

'Kennedy Shot 129 Times From 43 Different Angles" - The Onion

[Walter Ego]

The BBC did a good debunking documentary on the JFK assassination in 2003 which is available online.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7184933155238761777

[Big Les]

England, enthusiastic teachers and they didn't even bother to name or detail theories. It's one of those, "Many people believe that Kennedy was shot by Oswald, HOWEVER..."

British conspiracy theorists rarely take a clear stance. The general consensus is that Oswald 'might' not have acted alone, the Turin Shroud 'could possibly' be genuine and the Illuminati 'may very well be' tightening their febrile stranglehold on the world.

Thanks for the welcome,

Finnegan

'Kennedy Shot 129 Times From 43 Different Angles" - The Onion

I'm sure I remember that one but can't seem to find it online :confused:

There is this one (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/new_theories_suggest_kennedy_wasnt) though.

[CurtC]

I'm sure I remember that one but can't seem to find it online :confused:

It was one of their graphic images that looked like a real newspaper. The quoted bit was the headline, and there was an accompanying article. However, it didn't appear as text on their web site, but a big graphics image, so the text wouldn't be searchable.

[geggy]

A lot of skeptics claim that the official story of JFK assassination fell apart after Jack Ruby shot Oswald dead in order to silence him before the trial otherwise what could be Ruby's motivation for the hit?

[Alferd_Packer]

what could be Ruby's motivation for the hit?

What was Oswald's motivation?

[CurtC]

A lot of skeptics claim that the official story of JFK assassination fell apart after Jack Ruby shot Oswald dead in order to silence him before the trial otherwise what could be Ruby's motivation for the hit?

The only explanation for Ruby's action is that he was an unstable hothead. It was plainly NOT a premeditated shooting. (Go ahead - ask why)

[AZCat]

The only explanation for Ruby's action is that he was an unstable hothead. It was plainly NOT a premeditated shooting. (Go ahead - ask why)

I'll bite - why was it plainly not a premeditated shooting?

[Alferd_Packer]

Uh, because he did it in front of the cops and reporters?

[CurtC]

No, because at the time when Oswald was scheduled to be transported out of the police station, Ruby was down the street at the Western Union station, sending money to an employee. He was there at the police station when Oswald came out, only because they were running a little late with him.

In addition, Ruby left his close companion, his little dog, in his car at the time of the shooting. All this paints a clear picture that Ruby had business in the area, then headed to the police station only to find himself armed and face-to-face with the kid he despised. He pulled out the gun and shot.

[AZCat]

Uh, because he did it in front of the cops and reporters?

I don't think I'm getting the connection (it's pretty early here still). Why would that change whether it was premeditated? Maybe I'm misunderstanding "premeditated". I'm pretty ignorant on this, so I checked wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premeditated_murder). It says
Premeditated murder is the crime of wrongfully causing the death of another human being (also known as murder) after rationally considering the timing or method of doing so, in order to either increase the likelihood of success, or to evade detection or apprehension.

If Ruby had determined that the best chance of killing Oswald would be when he was transferred from one location to another, wouldn't that qualify as premeditation?



On Edit: I hadn't seen CurC's reply when I posted this. Please ignore it as he has sufficiently explained why it was not premeditated murder.

[AZCat]

No, because at the time when Oswald was scheduled to be transported out of the police station, Ruby was down the street at the Western Union station, sending money to an employee. He was there at the police station when Oswald came out, only because they were running a little late with him.

In addition, Ruby left his close companion, his little dog, in his car at the time of the shooting. All this paints a clear picture that Ruby had business in the area, then headed to the police station only to find himself armed and face-to-face with the kid he despised. He pulled out the gun and shot.

Ahh, gotcha. That makes sense - thanks for the explanation.

[Alferd_Packer]

So, what happened to the dog?

[ElMondoHummus]

So, what happened to the dog?

Well, there was more than one bullet in the gun, wasn't there?

:duck:

[chran]

Oh my God you guys!

Oswald totally went to Russia! SPAI!