Ohio to Limbaugh, Lying and Stupidity isn't a Crime.

[RandFan]

Limbaugh safe from voter-fraud charges (http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/03/28/JAIL_RUSH.ART_ART_03-28-08_A8_HV9P3PM.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=101)

Radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh has been telling his audience for days now that he could be indicted for encouraging Ohio Republicans to take a Democratic ballot in the March 4 primary in what he calls "Operation Chaos."


Could that actually happen?

Not likely, Ohio officials say.

"We have no intention of prosecuting Rush Limbaugh because lying through your teeth and being stupid isn't a crime," said Leo Jennings, a spokesman for Democratic Attorney General Marc Dann.

[aggle-rithm]

My parents were die-hard Republicans, but one of them always registered as a Democrat so they could vote in the primaries.

Except for Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, and Clinton, it worked!

[Polar Bear]

About the only thing I know about Rush Limbaugh is that (according to Bill Hicks, so it must be true) "he munches scat!"

[BPSCG]

"We have no intention of prosecuting Rush Limbaugh because lying through your teeth and being stupid isn't a crime," said Leo Jennings, a spokesman for Democratic Attorney General Marc Dann.From the same story:

Some critics have complained that Limbaugh is improperly encouraging voters to break the law.
You read the rest of the story and it's quite clear that Limbaugh found the whole tempest in a crockpot amusing and never entertained any realistic fear of being jailed.

Yet, "some critics" suggested he committed a crime.

So who's being stupid here? Limbaugh, who obviously thought the whole thing was ridiculous, or "some critics" who complained he "improperly encouraging voters to break the law"?

[fuelair]

About the only thing I know about Rush Limbaugh is that (according to Bill Hicks, so it must be true) "he munches scat!"
It is also reliably stated by many that he felches feces.

[Drudgewire]

"...lying through your teeth and being stupid isn't a crime," said Leo Jennings, a spokesman for Democratic Attorney General Marc Dann.
Thank God. Our entire political system could have been brought to a grinding halt. http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/sweatdrop.gif

[Garrette]

Yet, "some critics" suggested he committed a crime.

So who's being stupid here? Limbaugh, who obviously thought the whole thing was ridiculous, or "some critics" who complained he "improperly encouraging voters to break the law"?Beat me to it. I caught a bit of his schtick the other day in regard to this, and three things are obvious:

1. Limbaugh really is encouraging Republican voters to do this

2. He is saying that some Democrats are suggesting he is breaking the law

3. He thinks the whole thing is a hoot

[Rob Lister]

Beat me to it. I caught a bit of his schtick the other day in regard to this, and three things are obvious:

1. Limbaugh really is encouraging Republican voters to do this

2. He is saying that some Democrats are suggesting he is breaking the law

3. He thinks the whole thing is a hoot

ditto, lol

[dudalb]

If lying and stupidity were inditable offenses, just about every politician in America would be awating trial.

[Beerina]

Is it against the law to register as a Democrat and vote in a primary for the candidate you think will most favor the Republicans?

[Garrette]

Is it against the law to register as a Democrat and vote in a primary for the candidate you think will most favor the Republicans?It is never against the law to vote in the primaries of the party for which you are registered.

In some states, primaries/caucuses are "open," meaning that registration does not matter and you may vote either in the Republican or Democratic primary. There is no national norm, and as it's a primary and not the general election, federal law does not cover it.

[Upchurch]

Is it against the law to register as a Democrat and vote in a primary for the candidate you think will most favor the Republicans?
Nope.

[Drudgewire]

Is it against the law to register as a Democrat and vote in a primary for the candidate you think will most favor the Republicans?
Not at all. In fact I snickered when I heard Rush was calling for it because I thought it was brilliant the first time I heard of an effort to screw up the voting like this.

Of course that was 2000 and it was Democrat talking heads urging young/unregistered folks supporting Gore to register as republicans so they could vote for McCain.

[Rob Lister]

It is never against the law to vote in the primaries of the party for which you are registered.


Ohio has no party registration. In Ohio, you affiliate yourself with a party by selecting that party's ballot and signing a form saying you 'support the principles' of that party.

What a joke.

from the dnc website

Guiding Principles

We have a bold new direction for a secure America. We seek: 1) Honest Leadership & Open Government, 2) Real Security, 3) Energy Independence, 4) Economic Prosperity & Educational Excellence, 5) A Healthcare System that Works for Everyone, and 6) Retirement Security.

I thank even the most ardent republican can support all that. lol

[fishbob]

Not at all. In fact I snickered when I heard Rush was calling for it because I thought it was brilliant the first time I heard of an effort to screw up the voting like this.

Of course that was 2000 and it was Democrat talking heads urging young/unregistered folks supporting Gore to register as republicans so they could vote for McCain.

Yeah, but that was because McCain would have been better than Bush.

[PAC]

Why would anyone bother to listen to Rush Limbaugh to begin with?

[Drudgewire]

Yeah, but that was because McCain would have been better than Bush.
Gore would've TROUNCED McCain. Says a lot for the choices we have 8 years of a terrible Republican administration later that they're in statistical dead heats with him.

[Whack01]

*puts on tinfoil hat*

The reason why pundits like Limbaugh are telling republicans to change their registration to democrat to vote in their primaries, is so that they can cover up the number of republicans actually changing their affiliation. It keeps the media distracted.


/ To be honest I sincerely believe that's why they've done this.
// Registered republican
/// for how long....

[godofpie]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh_Is_a_Big_Fat_Idiot_and_Other_Observa tions
I still laugh out loud every time I read this book.

[New Ager]

Why would anyone bother to listen to Rush Limbaugh to begin with?

Rush is the number one conservative voice in America.

He combines an excellent understanding of politics with a great sense of humor. His show combines the serious with the very funny.

He exposes liberals for who they are, but also keeps conservatives in line.

He is the leading radio voice in America which is dominated by conservatives.

That's why.

[T.A.M.]

From the same story:
You read the rest of the story and it's quite clear that Limbaugh found the whole tempest in a crockpot amusing and never entertained any realistic fear of being jailed.

Yet, "some critics" suggested he committed a crime.

So who's being stupid here? Limbaugh, who obviously thought the whole thing was ridiculous, or "some critics" who complained he "improperly encouraging voters to break the law"?

Limbaugh is stupid here, by virtue of being stupid and ignorant on everything, period.

TAM:)

[T.A.M.]

Rush is the number one conservative voice in America.

He combines an excellent understanding of politics with a great sense of humor. His show combines the serious with the very funny.

He exposes liberals for who they are, but also keeps conservatives in line.

He is the leading radio voice in America which is dominated by conservatives.

That's why.

lol

You are welcome to him...you'll never find anyone but conservatives wanting him anyway.

I would add to your list though, obnoxiousness, Evil, Deceitful, and so many more.

Your admiration is so absolute for him, I had to question whether it was simply sarcasm.

TAM:)

[JoeEllison]

Rush is the number one conservative voice in America.
Proving that conservatives are stupid liars, just like their favorite radio-based stupid liar?

[T.A.M.]

Gore would've TROUNCED McCain. Says a lot for the choices we have 8 years of a terrible Republican administration later that they're in statistical dead heats with him.

Not really, it says more about the tone of the DEM primary fight more than anything.

TAM:)

[shadron]

Guiding Principles

We have a bold new direction for a secure America. We seek: 1) Honest Leadership & Open Government, 2) Real Security, 3) Energy Independence, 4) Economic Prosperity & Educational Excellence, 5) A Healthcare System that Works for Everyone, and 6) Retirement Security.

I thank even the most ardent republican can support all that. lol

Mmmmmmmm.... I don't know...some pretty nasty liberalisms there. Like independence and excellence. And "real". :)

[godofpie]

Rush is the number one conservative voice in America. Based on what?

He combines an excellent understanding of politics with a great sense of humor. His show combines the serious with the very funny.
He does understand how politics works but as far as his humor goes, not so much.

He exposes liberals for who they are, but also keeps conservatives in line.http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/search_results?qstring=rush+limbaugh
By lying?


He is the leading radio voice in America which is dominated by conservatives.

That's why.
Is the radio dominated by conservatives or America?
BTW If he is so anxious to go to jail for a cause, it would seem that he still owes the state some time for his misuse of hillbilly heroine. He is a stand up guy right? I am sure he wants to do the right thing. Or maybe not.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1159

[rwguinn]

Proving that conservatives are stupid liars, just like their favorite radio-based stupid liar?
That's a pretty damn wide brush you're using there, podnah.

[JoeEllison]

That's a pretty damn wide brush you're using there, podnah.

Not particularly, considering the question mark at the end. Truth is, though, the brand of "conservatism" that Rush Limbaugh sells is designed for people who ARE stupid, and don't mind lying and being lied to.

[rwguinn]

Not particularly, considering the question mark at the end. Truth is, though, the brand of "conservatism" that Rush Limbaugh sells is designed for people who ARE stupid, and don't mind lying and being lied to.
I admit to being conservative. I believe in standing on your own feet, and realizing that a level playing field means equal opportunity to fail, not guaranteed success, and accepting the consequences of you actions rather than blaming somebody/something else.
That said, Rush seriously pissed me off in 1991, when he (several times) described people like me as parasites--that there were jobs out there, you just had to take 'em. I had thought he was radical before then, but that solidified my dislike.
I was a laid-off engineer, BSME, 20 years experience, and spending 60 hours a week job seeking, with no luck at all. I wasn't alone.

Rush appeals to the narrow-minded and for some reason, the deeply religious--especially Southern Baptists. He's an Idiot.

[JoeEllison]

I admit to being conservative. I believe in standing on your own feet, and realizing that a level playing field means equal opportunity to fail, not guaranteed success, and accepting the consequences of you actions rather than blaming somebody/something else.That has nothing to do with "political conservatism". Pretty much everyone believes that. There are differences in the definition of "level playing field"... and a sense that some people use the ideas you produced as an excuse to avoid any social responsibility or admit to certain facts about society. A whole other topic worthy of a whole new thread, I'm sure.

That said, Rush seriously pissed me off in 1991, when he (several times) described people like me as parasites--that there were jobs out there, you just had to take 'em. I had thought he was radical before then, but that solidified my dislike.
I was a laid-off engineer, BSME, 20 years experience, and spending 60 hours a week job seeking, with no luck at all. I wasn't alone.Did you know that Rush Limbaugh was on welfare for awhile? Like his drug addiction and draft dodging, his time as a "welfare queen" was not damning when HE did it, but everyone else who has ever been in a similar or even less pathetic position than him is somehow less than human.


Rush appeals to the narrow-minded and for some reason, the deeply religious--especially Southern Baptists. He's an Idiot.Yep. And, not much better can be said for his fans who defend him online, but are too lazy to check what he says before accepting it as true.

[WildCat]

Rush appeals to the narrow-minded and for some reason, the deeply religious--especially Southern Baptists. He's an Idiot.
The fact he's a creationist might have something to do with that.

[Rob Lister]

Why would anyone bother to listen to Rush Limbaugh to begin with?

Because, as 10-20 million weekly listeners will attest, he's very, very good at what he does.

[kallsop]

When McCain became the presumptive republican nominee, and he clearly wasn't the first choice of Rush or most conservative radio heads, the lamestream media were gleefully reporting how Rush was irrelevant and done.

Now the same media are bringing Rush back to a position of importance and influence.

You have to wonder just how dumb the media is. (no need to answer, merely a rhetorical question)

[Dr Adequate]

Rush is the number one conservative voice in America. Ipse dixit.

[Dr Adequate]

So who's being stupid here? Limbaugh, who obviously thought the whole thing was ridiculous, or "some critics" who complained he "improperly encouraging voters to break the law"? Actually, neither of them. Limbaugh is indeed ridiculous, and he was encouraging voters to break the law.

From the OP:

In Ohio, party-switchers are supposed to sign a form attesting, under penalty of election falsification -- a felony -- that they support the principles of the party whose ballot they are obtaining. If die-hard Republicans register to vote in the Democratic primaries just to cause chaos, then they are felons. Limbaugh is encouraging people to commit a felony.

[Dr Adequate]

Is it against the law to register as a Democrat and vote in a primary for the candidate you think will most favor the Republicans? In Ohio, it is indeed a felony to do so if you are a staunch Republican.

There was a link in the OP, you know. Your question would have been answered if you'd followed it.

[fishbob]

Referring to 2000 election:
Gore would've TROUNCED McCain. . . . .

I strongly disagree.

[T.A.M.]

Rush Limbaugh is a comedian in the same sense as the "Jackass" crew are...you enjoy laughing at their stupid antics.

TAM:)

[ponderingturtle]

From the same story:
You read the rest of the story and it's quite clear that Limbaugh found the whole tempest in a crockpot amusing and never entertained any realistic fear of being jailed.

Of course after he got off on the drug charges why would anyone think he would get charged with something like this?

[Brainster]

Actually, neither of them. Limbaugh is indeed ridiculous, and he was encouraging voters to break the law.

From the OP:

If die-hard Republicans register to vote in the Democratic primaries just to cause chaos, then they are felons. Limbaugh is encouraging people to commit a felony.

It is a stupid law. What compelling interest does the state have in enforcing party discipline? And I'll admit that it was probably tacked onto legislation by a Republican. Democrats are always pushing for things like same-day registration; I suspect this provision was added to mollify conservative concerns about just the sort of monkey business that Limbaugh was engaging in. Of course, it's not as if liberals don't do the same thing; note this post by the famed lib blogger (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/10/2713/87225/55/434206), Kos:

With a history of meddling in our primaries, why don't we try and return the favor. Next Tuesday, January 15th, Michigan will hold its primary. Michigan Democrats should vote for Mitt Romney, because if Mitt wins, Democrats win. How so?

I don't know if Michigan has a similar law to Ohio's and I suspect strongly that Kos didn't know either at the time he made his suggestion.

[Cylinder]

In Ohio, it is indeed a felony to do so if you are a staunch Republican.

Do you have a cite for that? I'd love to read the statutory definition of staunch Republican.

[Dr Adequate]

Do you have a cite for that? I'd love to read the statutory definition of staunch Republican. * sigh *

In Ohio, party-switchers are supposed to sign a form attesting, under penalty of election falsification -- a felony -- that they support the principles of the party whose ballot they are obtaining. Now, can we agree that a staunch Republican does not support the principles of the Democratic Party, or do I have to talk you through it some more?

[Just thinking]

And so we find the whipping boy that will be blamed for the Democrats losing in November.

[Rob Lister]

* sigh *

Now, can we agree that a staunch Republican does not support the principles of the Democratic Party,...

That's not necessarily true. (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3571085&postcount=14)

which of their stated principles do you not think republicans support?

[New Ager]

lol

You are welcome to him...you'll never find anyone but conservatives wanting him anyway.



Just like you won't find anyone but liberals wanting a Clinton.



I would add to your list though, obnoxiousness, Evil, Deceitful, and so many more.



Sounds like a description of the Democrat Party. Although, the evil word gets overused by liberals. Hitler was evil. I don't think any political figure meets that criteria.



Your admiration is so absolute for him, I had to question whether it was simply sarcasm.



Not absolute, but I do admire him for what he has done for the conservative movement and our country.

[New Ager]

Proving that conservatives are stupid liars, just like their favorite radio-based stupid liar?

And how is it that you liberals can't come up with someone to challenge him?

And how does Rush being number one prove that conservatives are such?

[New Ager]

Guiding Principles(Democrats)



Democrats have principles?!? The evidence doesn't support that contention.



We have a bold new direction for a secure America.



Bold?!? It's the same old liberalism they've been touting for years.



We seek: 1) Honest Leadership & Open Government,



Yeah, like the Clintons.



2) Real Security..



From the party that wants to secure defeat in Iraq and routinely badmouths their country and President and gives aid to terrorists.

And how many Dems are in favor of a wall stopping illegal immigration?



3) Energy Independence.



Alternative forms won't be commonplace for many years to come. Oil is still the cheapest and best form of energy we have at this time.



4) Economic Prosperity & Educational Excellence,.



Raising taxes and spending more on social programs is prosperity?

And our school system is socialistic. And we all know what a failure that's been in the world.



5) A Healthcare System that Works for Everyone...



It already works for everyone as it's the best in the world.

They just mean socialized medicine which doesn't work at all.

[New Ager]

Based on what?



Based on that he's the number one radio talk show in America and the media talks about him all the time.



He does understand how politics works but as far as his humor goes, not so much.



His satircal bits making fun of liberals and liberalism and others are hysterical. You liberals have no sense of humor.


http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/search_results?qstring=rush+limbaugh
By lying?



Media matters is a leftwing smear group who distort, exaggerate and lie.



BTW If he is so anxious to go to jail for a cause, it would seem that he still owes the state some time for his misuse of hillbilly heroine. He is a stand up guy right? I am sure he wants to do the right thing. Or maybe not.



Rush was never convicted of any crime.

[New Ager]

The bottom line on this silliness is that Dems run over and vote for Republicans to try and mess with our nominee too. Weren't there many Dems voting for McCain in N.H.?

If the Dems can help pick our candidate, why can't we help pick theirs?

It seems, as usual, one standard for liberals and one standard for conservatives.

[Axiom_Blade]

His satircal bits making fun of liberals and liberalism and others are hysterical. You liberals have no sense of humor.

Actually, Limbaugh became such a hit because he was one of the few conservative pundits that tried to use humor; quite a rarity. Liberals have handfuls of humorous pundits...John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Bill Maher, etc. etc.


Media matters is a leftwing smear group who distort, exaggerate and lie.


What specific lies did you find in these linked articles?

[Dr Adequate]

Proving that conservatives are stupid liars, just like their favorite radio-based stupid liar? And how is it that you liberals can't come up with someone to challenge him? A shortage of liberals who are stupid liars.

[Dr Adequate]

That's not necessarily true. (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3571085&postcount=14)

which of their stated principles do you not think republicans support? You seem to be asking me to prove that Republicans are not Democrats, this strikes me as disingenuous.

[Rob Lister]

You seem to be asking me to prove that Republicans are not Democrats, this strikes me as disingenuous.

Well, now that you mention it... :)

But if it is disingenuous for me to ask you to prove it, how much more disingenuous for you to approve of the law asking that very same thing?

[The Painter]

A shortage of liberals who are stupid liars.

There is no shortage. A quick search came up with;

1 - 10 of about 7,410,000 for liberals who are stupid liars.

Another search on conservative stupid liars came up with this;

1 - 10 of about 6,280,000 for conservatives who are stupid liars.

Clearly there are more liberals who are stupid liars. That number is now 7,410,001. I've added you to the list.

[Dr Adequate]

There is no shortage. A quick search came up with;



Another search on conservative stupid liars came up with this;



Clearly there are more liberals who are stupid liars. That number is now 7,410,001. I've added you to the list. Your methodology seems fatally flawed.

[Dr Adequate]

Well, now that you mention it... :)

But if it is disingenuous for me to ask you to prove it, how much more disingenuous for you to approve of the law asking that very same thing? Huh?

[Rob Lister]

Huh?

The differences between republicans and democrats have very little if anything to do with the stated principles of either party. To wit:

Guiding Principles
We have a bold new direction for a secure America. We seek: 1) Honest Leadership & Open Government, 2) Real Security, 3) Energy Independence, 4) Economic Prosperity & Educational Excellence, 5) A Healthcare System that Works for Everyone, and 6) Retirement Security

Well, gee, who doesn't want all that? It isn't my fault, your fault, Ohio's fault or even Rush's fault that the stated principles of the DNC are so generic as to apply to most any thinking person, regardless of political persuasion.

FWIW, I intended to also quote the guiding principles of the RNC but, alas, they don't seem to have any. :)

To nutshell this, The law as written is, as admitted by the quoted Ohio official, unenforceable, and in my opinion, probably unconstitutional (freedom of association issues among others).

More to the point (but probably somewhat off topic): it is in the best interest of all republicans (stanch or not), as well as independent voters to vote in the Ohio primary using the democrat ballot. After all, the republican primary is over; no sense in selecting that ballot. What counts now is the second choice.

Lest there be any doubt, I would bet my left nut that Rush really does want Hillary to win this election. Her win is most certainly in his best interest.

[Upchurch]

The fact he's a creationist might have something to do with that.
Is he?

I guess that shouldn't surprise me, but somehow it always does. Even from successful morons like Limbaugh.

[The Painter]

Your methodology seems fatally flawed.

Why? Because it doesn't agree with you?
Yeah, your method is so much better. You know, the one were you just make stuff up.

[rwguinn]

A shortage of liberals who are stupid liars.
This is absolutely true
All liberals are one, or the other, but seldom both simultaneously.





:D Liberals ain't the only ones with a very wide brush!:D

[Upchurch]

:D Liberals ain't the only ones with a very wide brush!:D

Is calling one person, in this case Limbaugh, a stupid liar painting "with a very wide brush"? Isn't that usually reserved for labeling large groups of people?

[Rob Lister]

Is calling one person, in this case Limbaugh, a stupid liar painting "with a very wide brush"? Isn't that usually reserved for labeling large groups of people?

Well, I'm sure he's lied making him a liar. But to call him stupid is a bit...stupid.

ETA: I'm still writing you in on my pres-ballot as you're still smarter than any of the other's running.

[Dr Adequate]

Well, gee, who doesn't want all that? It isn't my fault, your fault, Ohio's fault or even Rush's fault that the stated principles of the DNC are so generic as to apply to most any thinking person, regardless of political persuasion. And yet astonishingly it is possible to tell a Republican from a Democrat.

If you think that the principle of the Democratic Party are universally acceptable, please see if you can convince a few Republicans of this fact.

[Upchurch]

Well, I'm sure he's lied making him a liar. But to call him stupid is a bit...stupid.

ETA: I'm still writing you in on my pres-ballot as you're still smarter than any of the other's running.
Thanks!

You'll note that I have more tact as well and refrained from suggesting that perhaps you would need a very wide brush in order to paint Limbaugh as anything. That would be rude if I had done that, which I didn't. Not even just now.

[Rob Lister]

And yet astonishingly it is possible to tell a Republican from a Democrat.

If you think that the principle of the Democratic Party are universally acceptable, please see if you can convince a few Republicans of this fact.

I'm certain I could given their stated principles -- platitudes are like that. I ask again: which of their stated principles do you think republicans would disagree with?

[rwguinn]

Is calling one person, in this case Limbaugh, a stupid liar painting "with a very wide brush"? Isn't that usually reserved for labeling large groups of people?

Consider the folowing exchange:
Proving that conservatives are stupid liars, just like their favorite radio-based stupid liar?

That's a pretty damn wide brush you're using there, podnah.

Not particularly, considering the question mark at the end. Truth is, though, the brand of "conservatism" that Rush Limbaugh sells is designed for people who ARE stupid, and don't mind lying and being lied to.

So, a ? excuses a wide brush (calling all conservatives stupid liars) as a humerous comment, but a :D doesn't?

Got it.
Conservatives are NOT welcome here, just people who are willing to claim to be liberal.

bye.
The country is in deep fertilizer with you guys in charge.

[Upchurch]

Consider the folowing exchange:
But none of that is what Dr. A was responding to. He was referencing a specific person.


Got it.
Conservatives are NOT welcome here, just people who are willing to claim to be liberal.

bye.
The country is in deep fertilizer with you guys in charge.
Now, if I were to say that conservatives with little sense of humor and a poor understanding of terminology were all drama queens, now that would be painting with a wide brush. Not a very wide brush, but a wide brush nonetheless.

[Dr Adequate]

Why? Because it doesn't agree with you? Because it is obviously not equivalent to performing a census.

Searching for evolution lies gets me 2,360,000 hits on google.

Searching for creationism lies gets me 495,000 hits on google.

This does not lead me to conclude that evolution has more lies in it than creationism, since I know that that is not true.

Is there any other aspect of the bleedin' obvious that you need explaining to you?

[Dr Adequate]

The differences between republicans and democrats have very little if anything to do with the stated principles of either party. To wit:

Guiding Principles
We have a bold new direction for a secure America. We seek: 1) Honest Leadership & Open Government, 2) Real Security, 3) Energy Independence, 4) Economic Prosperity & Educational Excellence, 5) A Healthcare System that Works for Everyone, and 6) Retirement Security

Well, gee, who doesn't want all that? It isn't my fault, your fault, Ohio's fault or even Rush's fault that the stated principles of the DNC are so generic as to apply to most any thinking person, regardless of political persuasion. You seem to have snipped that a bit. Under "Guiding Principles (http://www.democrats.org/a/party/stand.html)", they list four subheadings, of which you have quoted only the first: "Our Plan".

Here's the second.

The 50-State Strategy

The Democratic Party is committed to winning elections at every level in every region of the country, and we're getting started right now with a massive effort to fund organizers on the ground in every state. The ultimate goal? An active, effective group of Democrats organized in every single precinct in the country. How many Republicans have a principled commitment to the Democrats "winning elections at every level in every region of the country"?

Now let's look at the third of their "guiding principles":

Party Platform

The Democratic Party has a long and proud history of representing and protecting the interests of working Americans and guaranteeing personal liberties for all. One of the places we articulate our beliefs is in the Party's National Platform, adopted every four years by the Delegates at the National Convention. How many Republicans can honestly say that their beliefs are articulated by the DNC? How many agree that "the Democratic Party has a long and proud history of representing and protecting the interests of working Americans and guaranteeing personal liberties for all"?

---

Also on this score I should point out that where it says "Our Plan (http://www.democrats.org/agenda.html)" that's a link. If you follow it, you find stuff about funding stem cell research and raising the minimum wage, and other stuff that usually annoys Republicans. Each category listed: "1) Honest Leadership & Open Government, 2) Real Security, 3) Energy Independence, 4) Economic Prosperity & Educational Excellence, 5) A Healthcare System that Works for Everyone, and 6) Retirement Security" has its own page where they explain what they mean by that.

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To nutshell this, The law as written is, as admitted by the quoted Ohio official, unenforceable ... I think he was saying that Limbaugh couldn't be prosecuted.

... and in my opinion, probably unconstitutional (freedom of association issues among others). Well, it would be great fun to find out, but we'd have to persuade Obama to sue.

More to the point (but probably somewhat off topic): it is in the best interest of all republicans (stanch or not), as well as independent voters to vote in the Ohio primary using the democrat ballot. Unless they wish to avoid committing a felony just for the sake of mucking about with democracy.

Lest there be any doubt, I would bet my left nut that Rush really does want Hillary to win this election. Her win is most certainly in his best interest. Do you mean the nomination or the general election?

[rwguinn]

But none of that is what Dr. A was responding to. He was referencing a specific person.



Now, if I were to say that conservatives with little sense of humor and a poor understanding of terminology were all drama queens, now that would be painting with a wide brush. Not a very wide brush, but a wide brush nonetheless.
If you use it on me, it best be VERY wide. 52" waiste size has got to be good for something, right?