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Ed
3rd October 2003, 06:56 AM
I suspect that it would have to be licensed in the UK. Idiots.
LuxFerum
3rd October 2003, 07:07 AM
that is cool:cool:
how old is that?
Jon_in_london
3rd October 2003, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Ed
I suspect that it would have to be licensed in the UK. Idiots.

WTF is that!?!?!!!!!
Ed
3rd October 2003, 07:13 AM
circa 1570 wall gun. Matchlock. Italian made in Bresica. From a Castle.
rikzilla
3rd October 2003, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by Ed
circa 1570 wall gun. Matchlock. Italian made in Bresica. From a Castle.

Damn! How many steps does it take to load and fire?

I ask because I know early canon took hours between firings, and fired stone balls through barrels packed in peat to contain the explosion of the powder. The first cannon of this type were used by the British at Crecy...but they weren't much use on the battlefield except for scaring the crap outta the horses.

So, does your wall gun have any such archaic weirdnesses to it, or does it load and fire just like a musket?

-z
-z
Cleon
3rd October 2003, 07:23 AM
Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllllll!

Where'd you get it?
Larspeart
3rd October 2003, 07:29 AM
Ohhhhh! You said you have a 'gun' when really you have a 'gonne'. That was what was throwing me off.

Nice gonne!
Crossbow
3rd October 2003, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by Ed
circa 1570 wall gun. Matchlock. Italian made in Bresica. From a Castle.

Are you sure you got the whole gun and not just the barrel?

Or am I not seeing the lock and stock?
Ed
3rd October 2003, 07:36 AM
picture
Ed
3rd October 2003, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by Crossbow


Are you sure you got the whole gun and not just the barrel?

Or am I not seeing the lock and stock?

Just the barrel. About 56 inches. .67 cal.
Ed
3rd October 2003, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by rikzilla


Damn! How many steps does it take to load and fire?

I ask because I know early canon took hours between firings, and fired stone balls through barrels packed in peat to contain the explosion of the powder. The first cannon of this type were used by the British at Crecy...but they weren't much use on the battlefield except for scaring the crap outta the horses.

So, does your wall gun have any such archaic weirdnesses to it, or does it load and fire just like a musket?

-z
-z

Pretty much like any muzzle loader. Powder, wad, bullet. I could fire it, I think, but I'd rather not:D
Ed
3rd October 2003, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by Cleon
Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllllll!

Where'd you get it?

It was bought in Italy by the guy who was Keeper of Armour at the Royal Armouries (before it moved to Leeds). It has a coat of arms that I need to track down as well as a makers mark.
Jon_in_london
3rd October 2003, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by Ed


Pretty much like any muzzle loader. Powder, wad, bullet. I could fire it, I think, but I'd rather not:D

wuss
Crossbow
3rd October 2003, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by Ed


Just the barrel. About 56 inches. .67 cal.

Thanks much!

If you wanted, you could probably make a lock and stock for it without too much trouble.

I know the techs at Leeds were doing similar things with Matchlocks from the Mary Rose a few years back.
Ed
3rd October 2003, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by Crossbow


Thanks much!

If you wanted, you could probably make a lock and stock for it without too much trouble.

I know the techs at Leeds were doing similar things with Matchlocks from the Mary Rose a few years back.

Dunno. I sorta like the lines of the thing as-is. Inletting 5 ft. of maple or oak would be sorta a chore, don't you think?
Ed
3rd October 2003, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by Jon_in_london


wuss
Lothian
3rd October 2003, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by Ed
I suspect that it would have to be licensed in the UK. Idiots. I suspect not

7. Antiques
The following types of guns are generally regarded as antiques and, as such do not require a certificate provided that they are not fired if they are fired then the exemption for a certificate ceases.

(a) All original muzzle loading firearms.

(b) Breech loading firearms for rim-fire cartridges exceeding .23" calibre but excluding 9mm

(c) Breech loading firearms using ignition systems other than rim-fire or centre-fire, including pin fire, needle fire and contemporary transitional ignition systems.

(d) Breech loading firearms originally chambered for obsolete cartridges.

These definitions are not exhaustive. If in doubt please contact the Firearms Licensing Department.

from here (http://thamesvalley.police.uk/crime-reduction/firearm5.htm)
Crossbow
3rd October 2003, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by Ed


Dunno. I sorta like the lines of the thing as-is. Inletting 5 ft. of maple or oak would be sorta a chore, don't you think?

It could be a pain all right, but that really depends upon the rear octagonal section of the barrel.

It looks as if it tapered in the picture. If so, then yes it will be a bit tedious getting out the hammer and wood chisel to properly mortise in this section.

If not, then you might be able to cheat a bit by using a router table to make the needed cuts.
Ed
3rd October 2003, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Crossbow


It could be a pain all right, but that really depends upon the rear octagonal section of the barrel.

It looks as if it tapered in the picture. If so, then yes it will be a bit tedious getting out the hammer and wood chisel to properly mortise in this section.

If not, then you might be able to cheat a bit by using a router table to make the needed cuts.

Or, perhaps, get our friends at the Met to take on the challenge:D

I am not sure that spending $1k on a stock is a sensible use of collecting funds.