guy wins 6 million $ lottery from astral projection

[slipknot0129]

this is interesting, some guy won a daily lottery of 6 million dollars by doing astral projection. heres what it says on astralvoyage.com


The Daily Lottery
I know time can be transcended because I have done so on many occasions. But where is the proof? I wanted to prove, if not just to myself, that astral projection was authentic. In order to do this, I decided that winning some form of a lottery, which would be undeniable proof to me, would be in order.

My projections basically happen on the weekends when I can sleep in and induce the groggy state. From this state, my attachment to my body is weakened and I can bring on the vibrations more easily when focusing on the third eye.

It was snowing and I decided not to go to work. I decided that day that I would try and win the lottery instead (sounds crazy, I know!) I induced the vibrations somewhat easily and left my body. I then asked to go to the future and "see" the lottery numbers. I started looking for news papers so I could read them as this sounded like the intelligent thing to do. I mean, where else would I find them?

I finally found a newspaper and was bending down to look at the numbers for the six million dollar lottery when I was abruptly brought back to my body by an interruption. This did not stop me. Because my body's attachment was very lose that morning, I decided to keep trying. I was brought back by various noises and disturbances until my fifth departure. At this point, I was pretty well fed up with the obstacles and didn't even bother for a newspaper. I simply WILLED myself to see the numbers (as I tell people, will power is of paramount importance). I demanded that I see the numbers! Up popped three very clear balls and I thanked my higher self and forced myself awake before I forgot them.

Of course, I played them and won. They were the correct numbers, in the correct order on the correct day.

This has been pretty much all the proof I have needed that time can be transcended.

[Foolmewunz]

Paging CF Larsen! Paging CF Larsen!


No response, I'll post for him:



Evidence?

[Ron_Tomkins]

this is interesting, some guy won a daily lottery of 6 million dollars by doing astral projection. heres what it says on astralvoyage.com


The Daily Lottery
I know time can be transcended because I have done so on many occasions. But where is the proof? I wanted to prove, if not just to myself, that astral projection was authentic. In order to do this, I decided that winning some form of a lottery, which would be undeniable proof to me, would be in order.

My projections basically happen on the weekends when I can sleep in and induce the groggy state. From this state, my attachment to my body is weakened and I can bring on the vibrations more easily when focusing on the third eye.

It was snowing and I decided not to go to work. I decided that day that I would try and win the lottery instead (sounds crazy, I know!) I induced the vibrations somewhat easily and left my body. I then asked to go to the future and "see" the lottery numbers. I started looking for news papers so I could read them as this sounded like the intelligent thing to do. I mean, where else would I find them?

I finally found a newspaper and was bending down to look at the numbers for the six million dollar lottery when I was abruptly brought back to my body by an interruption. This did not stop me. Because my body's attachment was very lose that morning, I decided to keep trying. I was brought back by various noises and disturbances until my fifth departure. At this point, I was pretty well fed up with the obstacles and didn't even bother for a newspaper. I simply WILLED myself to see the numbers (as I tell people, will power is of paramount importance). I demanded that I see the numbers! Up popped three very clear balls and I thanked my higher self and forced myself awake before I forgot them.

Of course, I played them and won. They were the correct numbers, in the correct order on the correct day.

This has been pretty much all the proof I have needed that time can be transcended.

Uh huh.

Where's the newspaper article on that?

[JoeTheJuggler]

Oh it was "some guy" so that proves it.

I think it was his aunt who put the cat in the microwave.

[Foolmewunz]

Joe, Joe, Joe! How many times we gotta tell you? It was the "Well I don't know him personally, but my sister knows a lady whose brother worked with a man who heard about this teacher in Oklahoma"... guy.

And I just realized.... It must be true. It's on the internet!

[ExMinister]

No evidence that I could find. In fact the whole web site is amazingly devoid of evidence.

[JoeTheJuggler]

Joe, Joe, Joe! How many times we gotta tell you? It was the "Well I don't know him personally, but my sister knows a lady whose brother worked with a man who heard about this teacher in Oklahoma"... guy.

And I just realized.... It must be true. It's on the internet!
:)
That's a pretty good Craig Ferguson impression you do, FMW.

No evidence that I could find. In fact the whole web site is amazingly devoid of evidence.
I'd change "amazingly" to "predictably".

[Foolmewunz]

Am I missing something? What website?


Never mind... he can't post linkies yet, so it's not highlighted in the opening line.

Oops.

[rjh01]

Hey stop finding fault. Astral projection is as good a method as any of selecting random numbers.

Now if he could come here and post them before they won. Now that would be worth something.

[Zep]

BTW, slipknot0129, your OP was a full copy of the page off the other website. Not "best practice" here (hint: check your membership rules again).

[rjh01]

Great place the Internet. Just post your questions and most of the time the answer comes up (within reason). I asked the Internet if this could be done and the answer was no. Ref

http://www.lotterypost.com/topic/109916
QED.

[vidiviciveni]

From OP -snip- Up popped three very clear balls and I thanked my higher self and forced myself awake before I forgot them.

Of course, I played them and won. They were the correct numbers, in the correct order on the correct day.

I know of no lottery where only 3 winning balls gets you $6m. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Zep]

Strange person on that forum too. E.g.Mystical Posters:



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THANKS,



PSYKOMOA little too much red cordial there??

[Hokulele]

Strange person on that forum too. E.g.A little too much red cordial there??


It's the anti-e e cummings!

[CFLarsen]

Paging CF Larsen! Paging CF Larsen!


No response, I'll post for him:



Evidence?

I was asleep. Give me a break! :p

[RSLancastr]

Okay, so some guy with no name,
claims Astral Projection and Time Travel,
and to have won six mil on a three-number lottery,
in an unnamed state,
on an undisclosed date,
unreported in any known newspaper.

How can I not believe this?

[Southwind17]

I'd be prepared to wager $6 mil to a pinch of the proverbial that he can't win it again using the same or any other method. I wonder how many other lottery winners dreamed of winning before they did? See, that's another "proven" method. I might try that one tonight!

[Skullaxide]

Chance? It'd be more convincing if he won a few more.

[tkingdoll]

Weird. My mom won the lottery and she's never astrally projected anything.

Still, good to know.

[Spektator]

Okay, so some guy with no name,
claims Astral Projection and Time Travel,
and to have won six mil on a three-number lottery,
in an unnamed state,
on an undisclosed date,
unreported in any known newspaper.

How can I not believe this?

Very Zen-like, RL--almost a haiku quality!

Some guy with no name
Claims astral projection win;
Could he be a woo?

[Ladewig]

So Slipknot0129, if you are so good at astral projection that you proved reincarnation to be a fact, then why don't you use astral projection to win the lottery? You could go off and see the numbers, post them on this site or another site, and then win the lottery.

It would make virtually everyone on the site shut up and listen to what you have to say.

[Explorer]

This is my own experience of predicting the UK lottery numbers, which are six, plus a bonus ball number.

Soon after the National Lottery started up in the UK, and having played a few times each week in the conventional way, I woke up one morning in a semi-groggy state as you do, and had a vivid image of the next day's lottery numbers, all six of them. In those days there was only one lottery draw each Saturday evening.

When I fully awake I thought I would jot the numbers down. Frustratingly, I could only remember the first four numbers clearly, the last two I had to take a guess.

I filled in and submitted several lines on a lottery ticket with those first four numbers on, as a banker, plus variations of the final two numbers. I suppose with hindsight, I should have permed the last two numbers in all ways with the first four, but as it was only for fun at the time, I didn't bother.

That Saturday night, as you can imagine, I awaited the draw with baited breath. Now I still had the original piece of paper with my numbers on it, as well as the official lottery ticket. The numbers are drawn at random obviously from the machine, but are then re-arranged in numerical order for ease of presentation and checking. My original numbers were in the order that they appeared to me in my semi-dream.

The first four numbers that were drawn were not only my numbers, but in the order of my numbers as I had imagined them originally. Sad to say the last two numbers drawn were not the ones I had to guess. However, I won £56 ($110).

This affected me so much, that I was inclined never to do the lottery again unless I could "dream" the numbers".

OK, as a skeptic, I say that this is most likely to be a rare coincidence, but I ask the mathematicians out there to give me the odds of not only the first four numbers matching, but the order of draw matching too.

[Foolmewunz]

Just occurred to me.... Has DGLAS seen this thread? Maybe he's been going about it all wrong.

[Gst]

Wow, that's amazing! Since it has been proven that this works, he can win it next week too! and the next week!

[wahrheit]

..., but I ask the mathematicians out there to give me the odds of not only the first four numbers matching, but the order of draw matching too.

The UK lottery is 49 balls, right?

The odds are 49 x 48 x 47 x 46 = 5,085,024

In a real lottery, where the order of the numbers drawn does not matter, you divide this by 4 x 3 x 2 x 1, which is 24. (There are 24 possible ways to arrange the 4 balls, thus increasing your chances when the order does not matter.)

Your odds: 5,085,024
In a lottery: 211,876

Let's hope I got that right...

[Locknar]

Okay, so some guy with no name,
claims Astral Projection and Time Travel,
and to have won six mil on a three-number lottery,
in an unnamed state,
on an undisclosed date,
unreported in any known newspaper.

How can I not believe this?I know I'm convinced! Now, anyone have some swamp land in FL they want to sell me?

[Explorer]

The UK lottery is 49 balls, right?

The odds are 49 x 48 x 47 x 46 = 5,085,024

In a real lottery, where the order of the numbers drawn does not matter, you divide this by 4 x 3 x 2 x 1, which is 24. (There are 24 possible ways to arrange the 4 balls, thus increasing your chances when the order does not matter.)

Your odds: 5,085,024
In a lottery: 211,876

Let's hope I got that right...

Thanks for that. Those odds are amazing! Doesn't prove anything I know, but interesting none the less!

[Gord_in_Toronto]

May I be permitted to say, "So what"?

Thank you.

[Southwind17]

Thanks for that. Those odds are amazing! Doesn't prove anything I know, but interesting none the less!

"Amazing"?!? You could have taken the fact you only won $110 as an indication of how "unlikely"(:rolleyes:) pulling four numbers is. Don't go considering yourself particularly "gifted" just yet!

[Linda777NJ]

I'd believe him...............:D if he sent me 6 million dollars

[Ron_Tomkins]

And as part of the complete routine, Ferj should show up any time by now and say something like "Hey you troll, stop it. You're giving us psychics bad publicity".

[Rasmus]

I filled in and submitted several lines on a lottery ticket with those first four numbers on, as a banker, plus variations of the final two numbers. I suppose with hindsight, I should have permed the last two numbers in all ways with the first four, but as it was only for fun at the time, I didn't bother.

That would have been fairly expensive. 44x43/2 possible ways for the last two numbers, after all. Just under 1000 combinations. Well worth it if you have any sort of confidence in the procedure, but quite expensive otherwise. (Of course you could have just played some 20 odd lines and ensured to hit 5 right numbers minimum and just take your chances on the last one... or you could have pulled the trick again and gotten the missing two numbers.)

[DevilsAdvocate]

It's the anti-e e cummings!Thank you. That was the only thing that has made me laugh out loud all week. :)

[Egg]

A friend of mine had an incredibly lucid dream in which he won the lottery. In the morning, he could even remember what the numbers were that came up in his dream. Of course, he used these numbers in the next lottery and... won nothing. The problem he has now is that it might have been the wrong lottery, which means he has to keep trying. To my knowledge, he still hasn't won though and its been about 5 years since his dream.

I can't give you any evidence for my anecdote, sorry :).

[AmyWilson]

Well, that's because astral projection is real. Any idiot can realize this, it's only happened to a lot of people before and still does.

[Czarcasm]

Well, that's because astral projection is real. Any idiot can realize this...A question for the Moderators-Does it count as a personal insult if I agree wholeheartedly with a poster? :D

[slipknot0129]

through trying astral time travel i got 3 of the numbers right on the lottery yesterday

[Locknar]

Well, that's because astral projection is not real. Any idiot can realize this, it's never only happened to a lot of people before and still does never will.
AmyWilson, I corrected your post for you....no need to thank me :)

[Olowkow]

I was in the grocery store last week and had a particularly strong "hunch" that I should buy a lottery ticket. I never buy lottery tickets any more since they quit doing the $2.00 bingo. I was running even or in the black with "bingo" for years, buying one maybe once a month and winning $5.00, or $10 once in a while. Never $20.00.

So I notice they have a $1.00 ticket variety in the machine. I bought one, took it to the car, and lo and behold, I won $20! I savored that $20 in cappucinos!

The problem is, I have a hunch just about every time I go the to grocery store, and I just normally resist the temptation to waste a buck.

I found this win curious, but my perspective is that it was just an interesting coincidence.

[slipknot0129]

Well, that's because astral projection is real. Any idiot can realize this, it's only happened to a lot of people before and still does.thats the straight up truth

[Czarcasm]

thats the straight up truthWill the Mods please do something? They're presenting the straight lines on a .999 pure silver platter with Waterford crystal on the side, and I'm not sure how much longer I can resist!

[slipknot0129]

is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?

No, says the man in Washington. It belongs to the poor.
No, says the man in the Vatican. It belongs to God.
No, says the man in Moscow. It belongs to everyone.

[Czarcasm]

is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?

No, says the man in Washington. It belongs to the poor.
No, says the man in the Vatican. It belongs to God.
No, says the man in Moscow. It belongs to everyone.

The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind.
The answer is blowing in the wind.

[Southwind17]

A friend of mine had an incredibly lucid dream in which he won the lottery. In the morning, he could even remember what the numbers were that came up in his dream. Of course, he used these numbers in the next lottery and... won nothing. The problem he has now is that it might have been the wrong lottery, which means he has to keep trying. To my knowledge, he still hasn't won though and its been about 5 years since his dream.

I can't give you any evidence for my anecdote, sorry :).

Seems the lucidity wasn't quite as incredible as you think it was. Makes me wonder in what context he even remembered the numbers if it wasn't knowing which lottery they applied to! Shame about the lack of evidence. I wonder what would have qualified?!

[Kopji]

I think that I hate these threads the most. They always start off sounding kind of interesting, so I read on to see if the idea develops into something. It always turns out that the only interesting thing is how they gradually unfold into wasting my time.

It is a bit like being promised a glimpse at a great work of art and then we arrive to find that it is of a polar bear in a snowstorm. uh huh.


So for the would be astral projectors, a simple test: Do some powerball predictions without all the astral projecting - go have a beer or two and then pick those numbers.
Create a beer drinking powerball prediction baseline.

THEN do your astral projection predictions and see if there is any statistical difference. And if someone wins the powerball after drinking some beers, is that evidence of cause and effect?

[slipknot0129]

Seems the lucidity wasn't quite as incredible as you think it was. Makes me wonder in what context he even remembered the numbers if it wasn't knowing which lottery they applied to! Shame about the lack of evidence. I wonder what would have qualified?!dreams are alot different then astral projections, dreams are in your head, and astral projection is like having your mind being at two places at once.

[Kopji]

I won $10 once for getting three balls right.

[Hokulele]

I won $10 once for getting three balls right.


I am currently sitting next to someone with two balls, no astral projection required. :duck:

[Zep]

dreams are alot different then astral projections, dreams are in your head, and astral projection is like having your mind being at two places at once.No, that's schizophrenia. Or really bad drugs. Or, perhaps, both.

[rjh01]

Well, that's because astral projection is real. Any idiot can realize this, it's only happened to a lot of people before and still does.
It would be more accurate to say

Astral projection is real only to idiots. The rest of us know better.

[Czarcasm]

dreams are alot different then astral projections, dreams are in your head, and astral projection is like having your mind being at two places at once.

How can you be in two places at once, when you're not anywhere at all?

[Ladewig]

dreams are alot different then astral projections, dreams are in your head, and astral projection is like having your mind being at two places at once.

One million dollars awaits the person who can demonstrate astral projection.

Slipknot0129, please provide your reasons for not applying for the challenge. We are always looking for original answers to that issue.

[Ashles]

dreams are alot different then astral projections, dreams are in your head, and astral projection is like having your mind being at two places at once.

So just to confirm,

Do you now accept that the OP does not seem to be a real story?

[Ashles]

Double post. I guess my mind is split.

[slipknot0129]

One million dollars awaits the person who can demonstrate astral projection.

Slipknot0129, please provide your reasons for not applying for the challenge. We are always looking for original answers to that issue.
because money is only paper

[Olowkow]

because money is only paper

Wrong answer. Money can be gold!

[Czarcasm]

because money is only paperMay I borrow a stack of papers from your bank account, then? When you get your paycheck, do you throw it in the recycling bin because it is "only paper"?

It is so easy to expose this kind of cheap hypocrisy.

[slipknot0129]

Wrong answer. Money can be gold!
gold is only metal

[Psiload]

dreams are alot different then astral projections, dreams are in your head, and astral projection is like having your mind being at two places at once.

"Like" being the operative word in that sentence.

[slipknot0129]

How can you be in two places at once, when you're not anywhere at all?
the silver cord allows you to be connected to your body while going anywhere in the universe.

[David Wong]

silver is just a metal

[Southwind17]

because money is only paper

gold is only metal

The inference being they have no inherent qualities, and hence value, it seems. Let's extend this philosophy then, shall we:

"astral" and "projection" are just words created and adopted by humans!

[Southwind17]

the silver cord allows you to be connected to your body while going anywhere in the universe.

Can you tell us more about the characteristics of this "silver cord". Is it made of silver, for example? Does it have mass?

[Psiload]

the silver cord allows you to be connected to your body while going anywhere in the universe.

Anywhere...

except for places where you could glean information which would prove astral projection is anything other than a figment of your imagination. Anywhere and everywhere in the entire universe... except for there.

[slipknot0129]

The inference being they have no inherent qualities, and hence value, it seems. Let's extend this philosophy then, shall we:

"astral" and "projection" are just words created and adopted by humans!
astral projection is just part of existence

[arthwollipot]

slipknot0129, are you really unable to think of a charity that could use a million dollars? Fair enough if you're not interested yourself - it's your choice after all - but if you do win the million, think about how much that would benefit your favourite charity! Even if you don't want it, there are people out there who could benefit from it.

[Foolmewunz]

astral projection is just part of existence

Perhaps on your planet, but here on earth astral projection is just part of the Great Woo Collective of folklore that hucksters and snake oil salesmen feed to the ever-more-depressingly-gullible public.

Do tell us more about that silver umbilical chord. We so love it when people trip all over their own rhetoric can give us physical attributes of items from another plane.

[Southwind17]

the silver cord allows you to be connected to your body while going anywhere in the universe.

You've not uploaded your latest holiday snaps onto Facebook I don't suppose? Shame.

[slipknot0129]

here on earth astral projection is just part of the Great Woo Collective of folklore that hucksters and snake oil salesmen feed to the ever-more-depressingly-gullible public.

nowadays it is fiction to think astral projection isnt real

[Hokulele]

nowadays it is fiction to think astral projection isnt real


Umm, yeah, that must be why doctors still do colonoscopies the hard way. :rolleyes:

[Southwind17]

nowadays it is fiction to think astral projection isnt real

Should we expect you to post anything of substance any time soon? Perhaps you could take a trip along the wee silver cord to find out!

[wahrheit]

What a ridiculous collection of esoteric one-liners. Someone has watched too many Kung Fu episodes and thinks he is the Master of David Carradine.

[slipknot0129]

i know in all your heart you believe in the paranormal

[arthwollipot]

And how do you know that, exactly?

[slipknot0129]

your higher self

[rjh01]

because money is only paper

And this post is only words. Two can play that game.:D

[SezMe]

:words:

[arthwollipot]

i know in all your heart you believe in the paranormalAnd how do you know that, exactly?your higher selfSorry, not following. Can you elaborate? In 25 words or more?

[Foolmewunz]

the silver cord allows you to be connected to your body while going anywhere in the universe.

Okay, I'm in. Here's my silver Cord of choice, though.

I'm reckoning I fill 'er up with petrol here, then astral project down to Australia and pick up Arthwollipot - we do a quick tour then we'll astral project to Germany and get Wahreit and can go see some cool old castles and stuff and have a couple of decent beers.

Anyone else we need to pick up? Since it's astral projection road-tripping, it should only take about 12 seconds between countries.

Road Trip in this baby!!!!

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_1108547fc7e3deb7ae.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11664)

That's a 1936 (silver) Cord 810. A car that wowed 'em, but because of the depression, couldn't sell. Only about 2500 made in 18 months, and production ceased in 1937. Someone forgot to tell the racing team, though. They set a couple of speed records (without a production facility) at the end of '37 that stood until 1954.

[Hokulele]

Shotgun!

[arthwollipot]

Sounds like a good plan to me. Where will you pick me up from?

Oh. I suppose it doesn't really matter, does it?

[rjh01]

Count me in. When you visit Australia I will be waiting for you. Then we can visit all the places people do not normally visit. Look at the zoos after closing time. Visit people in their private homes without their knowledge to see what they are doing. Look at top secret documents. Who needs drugs when we can do such things?

Hey the imagination goes wild!

[Foolmewunz]

Shotgun!

Oh, Jeez! Now the Wolf person is going to insist on coming and he always claws up the seat covers!

Okay.... I realized we don't need petrol, we're astral projecting, baby! First up to Beijing to get the Wolfman, then to Hawaii to get Hokulele, then the Aussie run and Germany run.

Hokulele... you're a big astronomy fan. And he said anywhere in the universe... how about like the Crab Nebula? I always wanted to tour outer space in a classic roadster!

[Foolmewunz]

Sounds like a good plan to me. Where will you pick me up from?

Oh. I suppose it doesn't really matter, does it?

Jeez, you're slipping... introducing a note of reality to the proceedings???

Okay, stand in the middle of someplace flat and signal us with the eyes of doom... we'll follow your glare down to the landing strip.

[Hokulele]

Hokulele... you're a big astronomy fan. And he said anywhere in the universe... how about like the Crab Nebula? I always wanted to tour outer space in a classic roadster!


Let's make it interesting, say the interior of a black hole? I've always wanted to see whether or not wormhole theories are true. If it is just for sight-seeing purposes, the Eagle Nebula is quite impressive and cataclysmic variables are a blast. ;)

[rjh01]

Now you are thinking. Just imagine, your fellow passengers look like whatever you want us to look like. They behave in any way you want us to behave. The transport is any method you want.

Maximum entertainment or your money back!

[ExMinister]

Can I go? Could we dress like Klingons and check out the Borg?

[Hokulele]

Can I go? Could we dress like Klingons and check out the Borg?


Sure! Please bring snacks, as this may end up being a long trip.

[SezMe]

Let's make it interesting, say the interior of a black hole?
NOOOOooooo! Can you imagine the havoc the Hawking radiation will play on that Cords' paint job?

ETA: Count me in if we can take a spin - so to speak - around the new LHC and maybe pick up a Higgs bozo or two.

[patrick767]

Meh, Slipknot's an obvious troll. I'm bored. Woos who really believe what they're saying are much more fun.

[schlitt]

I went through a woo stage where i learned astral projection. After about a year of experimenting with it, I finally concluded astral projection to be a lucid dream with a more realistic theme, because it was induced as your conciousness expects to find itself in its immediate surroundings. (As opposed to becoming concious in a dream jn which you find yourself somewhere completely different)
Because you slip into the state of hallucination while you are still awake, the hallucination from that point onward is based in reality and you feel as if you are simply moving through actual reality in a non physical form.
I used to find that as soon as i achieved the state, (pretty much once sleep paralysis set in) it was like i had just opened my eyes, even though i knew my eyes were closed physically. I could see, and what I could see was my bedroom exactly as i would expect to see it. It is incredible how vivid and realistic these hallucinations are and it is a hell of a let of fun, when you can master it.
This state is easiest to acheive after about 5 hours sleep, waking up so your body is still extremely groggy, then going back to sleep quickly, letting your body slip into its usual state of sleepful paralysis, but while keeping your conciousness awake. This state requires a lot of practice, and can take from weeks to years to master.

I tried various experiments to see whether i was really out of my body or if it is was just a vivid hallucination. I had my friend choose a random object that i was not to know, and place it somewhere around the house. For example he chose to hide a can of baked beans behind a couch in my living room. So he told me there was something behind the couch, but i was unaware of what it was. It was my job to astrally project, look behind the couch, find out what it was while i was out of my body, and report my results. Then I could check to see if i was correct in reality.
Each time i tried this, I got the object completely wrong, and concluded these out of body experiences were merely hallucinations. Needless to say, I was dissapointed, but I knew I had to let go of my woo belief and go with the evidence.

Knowing how realistic these experiences are, i can understand how many people mistake them to be real.

Oh, and the OP is clearly a fabrication.

[slipknot0129]

I went through a woo stage where i learned astral projection. After about a year of experimenting with it, I finally concluded astral projection to be a lucid dream with a more realistic theme, because it was induced as your conciousness expects to find itself in its immediate surroundings. (As opposed to becoming concious in a dream jn which you find yourself somewhere completely different)
Because you slip into the state of hallucination while you are still awake, the hallucination from that point onward is based in reality and you feel as if you are simply moving through actual reality in a non physical form.
I used to find that as soon as i achieved the state, (pretty much once sleep paralysis set in) it was like i had just opened my eyes, even though i knew my eyes were closed physically. I could see, and what I could see was my bedroom exactly as i would expect to see it. It is incredible how vivid and realistic these hallucinations are and it is a hell of a let of fun, when you can master it.
This state is easiest to acheive after about 5 hours sleep, waking up so your body is still extremely groggy, then going back to sleep quickly, letting your body slip into its usual state of sleepful paralysis, but while keeping your conciousness awake. This state requires a lot of practice, and can take from weeks to years to master.

I tried various experiments to see whether i was really out of my body or if it is was just a vivid hallucination. I had my friend choose a random object that i was not to know, and place it somewhere around the house. For example he chose to hide a can of baked beans behind a couch in my living room. So he told me there was something behind the couch, but i was unaware of what it was. It was my job to astrally project, look behind the couch, find out what it was while i was out of my body, and report my results. Then I could check to see if i was correct in reality.
Each time i tried this, I got the object completely wrong, and concluded these out of body experiences were merely hallucinations. Needless to say, I was dissapointed, but I knew I had to let go of my woo belief and go with the evidence.

Knowing how realistic these experiences are, i can understand how many people mistake them to be real.

Oh, and the OP is clearly a fabrication.the astral plane is in another dimension.

[Akhenaten]

And the Jade Monkey is in the glove compartment.

[schlitt]

the astral plane is in another dimension.

Yes, that is the explanation that was invented to explain why reality seemed so inconsistent, and dream-like while astrally traveling; "Oh, things are strange because it is another dimension!". :rolleyes:

Just people using lame justifications, wanting to cling to their delusions. There is absolutely no proof.

[ExMinister]

Yes, that is the explanation that was invented to explain why reality seemed so inconsistent, and dream-like while astrally traveling; "Oh, things are strange because it is another dimension!". :rolleyes:

Just people using lame justifications, wanting to cling to their delusions. There is absolutely no proof.


It does seem real, and it is disappointing to realize it's not (unless your experiences have a nightmare quality sometimes, like mine did, in which case it's also a relief). There is a really good non-woo book called The Conscious Exploration of Dreaming (by authors Brooks and Vogelsong) that discusses lucid dreaming and what people mistakenly believe is astral travel in detail. It talks about the theory that all forms of dreams derive their material from suggestion and from our expectations; what we expect to happen in a lucid dream is basically what will happen.

I think anyone who is truly interested in finding out the truth about this phenomenon will find the type of experiments you made (with the object hidden behind the couch) enlightening, just as experimenting in the so-called astral state with how expectations play out in these dreams is enlightening.

[Southwind17]

And the Jade Monkey is in the glove compartment.

Along with the gloves, of course. Who the hell keeps gloves in the "glove compartment" these days, other than astral travellers, along with many other essential items of thermal protective clothing!

[Naughtyhippo]

Slipknot, why get more people astrally projecting? Surely they'll crowd up the place, like the coast during the summer!

[Cobalt]

nowadays it is fiction to think astral projection isnt real

Umm, yeah, that must be why doctors still do colonoscopies the hard way. :rolleyes:
Then I should get money back for quite a few radiology bills. The doctors should have KNOWN I had gallstones, they didn't need machinery!