View Full Version : zero tolerance - sharpie sniffing - sigh
billydkid
5th April 2008, 05:55 AM
http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=89333
Puppycow
5th April 2008, 06:33 AM
Good grief.
Bikewer
5th April 2008, 06:44 AM
Taught that young slacker a lesson, by God! It's back to good old traditional graphite and wax, media that made this country great.
cyborg
5th April 2008, 07:00 AM
Zero tolerance, zero intelligence.
godless dave
5th April 2008, 07:37 AM
I'm pretty sure sniffing markers can't get you remotely high.
PrincessIneffabelle
5th April 2008, 07:44 AM
I'm pretty sure sniffing markers can't get you remotely high.
Says the guy with black rings around his nostrils.
:p
Safe-Keeper
5th April 2008, 07:50 AM
I'm pretty sure sniffing markers can't get you remotely high.It apparently can, and can if I'm not mistaken also damage your brain if you do it over time.
But yes, zero tolerance is ridiculous.
elaine
5th April 2008, 07:53 AM
That poor kid.
Rob Lister
5th April 2008, 08:00 AM
Eathan Harris says he's happy to be back in school after his suspension, but he did confide he worried the school's disciplinary action might hurt his dream of one day becoming a professional football player.
If anything, it will help.
Rob Lister
5th April 2008, 08:02 AM
It apparently can, and can if I'm not mistaken also damage your brain if you do it over time.
apparently not...
Dr. Eric Lavonas says non-toxic markers like Sharpies, while pungent-smelling, cannot be used to get high.
Also, the MSDS for the marker (http://www.sharpie.com/img/compel/NLkHB4EnGSHPoIM1QQ8se4g_cBwPpiSl/SharpieFine.pdf) indicates it is safe.
NobbyNobbs
5th April 2008, 08:02 AM
The news story itself exonerates the kid. While the school is worried about huffing and drug use and bad influences, what is it that the innocent 8-year old is concerned about?
Eathan Harris says he's happy to be back in school after his suspension, but he did confide he worried the school's disciplinary action might hurt his dream of one day becoming a professional football player.
He sounds adorable.
Region Rat
5th April 2008, 08:26 AM
Despite the medical evidence, Benisch promised to draw an even clearer line on markers.
"We've purged every permanent marker there is in this building," he said.Oh my god, it seems that Principal Benisch forgot about the dry erase markers. But wait, what would the teachers do to get through the day.
Oh, for the days of chalk boards. Although, come to think of it, I think I may have suffered lung damage from all of the chalk dust I inhaled while cleaning those erasers after class. (D@mn Mrs. Wisnewski) I'm still waiting for those lawyer commercials that advertise for those who suffer from chalkothemeola.
Empress
5th April 2008, 08:39 AM
Nevermind...
Rob Lister
5th April 2008, 08:41 AM
Oh my god, it seems that Principal Benisch forgot about the dry erase markers. But wait, what would the teachers do to get through the day.
Oh, for the days of chalk boards. Although, come to think of it, I think I may have suffered lung damage from all of the chalk dust I inhaled while cleaning those erasers after class. (D@mn Mrs. Wisnewski) I'm still waiting for those lawyer commercials that advertise for those who suffer from chalkothemeola.
these too?
http://store.officeworld.com/ProductImages/united/LargePlus/SAN20072_1_1.JPG
shadron
5th April 2008, 08:51 AM
In the meantime, they managed to wipe away any vestige of curiosity in the boy. I suppose that's the idea.
Beerina
5th April 2008, 09:52 AM
"It smelled good," Harris said. "They told me that's wrong."
Ahh, the loss of innocence. Such a beautiful thing to see, like a YouTube video where a race car flips up into the crowd.
Moments like this are what makes me proud to be a human.
Ausmerican
5th April 2008, 10:13 AM
So the kid was suspended for doing something that is apparently harmless and cant get you high. Then all the non-offending, non high producing markers were removed from the school? Good. Lets keep it up. We must purge everything from the school that is harmless and wont get you high and suspend any children who are doing anything that wont get them high immediately!
WildCat
5th April 2008, 10:36 AM
When I went to school they still used mimeograph machines... and every kid in the class would sniff that paper straight of the machine...
Bill Bryson in his memoir The Life and Times of the Thunderbolt Kid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Life_and_Times_of_the_Thunderbolt_Kid), writes "Of all the tragic losses since the 1960s, mimeograph paper may be the greatest. With its rapturously fragrant, sweetly aromatic pale blue ink, mimeograph paper was literally intoxicating. Two deep drafts of a freshly run-off mimeograph worksheet and I would be the education system’s willing slave for up to seven hours."
TX50
5th April 2008, 10:48 AM
When I went to school they still used mimeograph machines... and every kid in the class would sniff that paper straight of the machine...
That takes me back! :eye-poppi
godless dave
5th April 2008, 11:43 AM
I remember back in elementary school there were some red markers that were given a cherry scent by the manufacturer. We used to sniff them because they smelled good. I wonder what this idiot principal would make of that?
billydkid
5th April 2008, 01:16 PM
When I went to school they still used mimeograph machines... and every kid in the class would sniff that paper straight of the machine...Yes, I was thinking about that too. I suppose nowadays, sniffing your mimeographed test paper would get you suspended. We live in a retarded world and an apparently retarded country in which the retarded people are in control.
BPSCG
5th April 2008, 01:30 PM
Mimeograph paper... ahhh, those were the good old days (we always called them ditto paper...)
Teacher would hand out the test on freshly-printed ditto paper and all the kids would start huffing it. Nobody got brain damaged, except a couple of kids who ended up being hippies in the 1960s and last I heard work for the Daily Kos, which just goes to show.
Honestly, I read this story and wondered, "Is this from The Onion?" What Ausamerican wrote bears repeating: So the kid was suspended for doing something that is apparently harmless and cant get you high. Then all the non-offending, non high producing markers were removed from the school? Good. Lets keep it up. We must purge everything from the school that is harmless and wont get you high and suspend any children who are doing anything that wont get them high immediately!Westminster, Colorado. Make a note of that - candidates for the "Stupider Than the Dover, Kansas, School Board" award. Gawd, if I had kids who were being taught by these people, I'd get a second job to pay for private school.
Soapy Sam
5th April 2008, 05:38 PM
One of the main features of primary schools in the 1960s was random punishment for practically anything.
This taught us that adults are capricious nutters and encouraged us to think on our feet and dodge fast.
Random punishment. Making children grow up. At a school near you.
fuelair
5th April 2008, 06:47 PM
I'm pretty sure sniffing markers can't get you remotely high.
Original magic markers (toluol) could - and the fluid (not the ink) in mimeographs (doctored ethanol IIRC):) also could.
Autolite
5th April 2008, 08:46 PM
Actually I support the school on this one. Sniffing Sharpies might be harmless in itself but it is gateway to the real hard stuff like "White-Out" and "Elmer's Safety Glue". It's best to nip it in the bud or you'll have half the kids in the class hanging out in the stationary supply closet during recess...
Autolite
5th April 2008, 08:53 PM
Teacher would hand out the test on freshly-printed ditto paper and all the kids would start huffing it.
You guys were lucky. The elementary school I went to couldn't afford a mimeograph machine. We all just used to take turns sniffing the new dictionary...
slingblade
5th April 2008, 11:56 PM
Westminster, Colorado.
I'm a Westy grad. Wow. It wasn't that stupid in 1977, I swear!
Alt+F4
6th April 2008, 06:26 AM
Oh my god, it seems that Principal Benisch forgot about the dry erase markers. But wait, what would the teachers do to get through the day.
Oh, for the days of chalk boards. Although, come to think of it, I think I may have suffered lung damage from all of the chalk dust I inhaled while cleaning those erasers after class. (D@mn Mrs. Wisnewski) I'm still waiting for those lawyer commercials that advertise for those who suffer from chalkothemeola.
I wish we had dry erase boards in every classroom! Where I teach, dry erase boards are only in classrooms that have computers because as we all know, chalk dust is bad for expensive electronics, as for human lung, well who cares.
We're still using the same "technology", the chalk blackboard, that we were using when we still put people to death for witchcraft.
technoextreme
6th April 2008, 06:37 AM
Oh my god, it seems that Principal Benisch forgot about the dry erase markers. But wait, what would the teachers do to get through the day.
Oh, for the days of chalk boards. Although, come to think of it, I think I may have suffered lung damage from all of the chalk dust I inhaled while cleaning those erasers after class. (D@mn Mrs. Wisnewski) I'm still waiting for those lawyer commercials that advertise for those who suffer from chalkothemeola.
Dry erase markers stink to high heaven. I sat five feet away from one and I could still smell the dam things.
TragicMonkey
6th April 2008, 06:37 AM
We're still using the same "technology", the chalk blackboard, that we were using when we still put people to death for witchcraft.
Do you think there's a connection? Does chalk dust inhibit sorcerous powers, enabling us to capture witches without them turning their evil magic on us? If so, why are you arguing against chalkboards? Can it be....that you are yourself a witch? Witch!! Where's my chalk?
Wolfman
6th April 2008, 06:40 AM
Despite the medical evidence, Benisch promised to draw an even clearer line on markers.
"We've purged every permanent marker there is in this building," he said.Must I be the one to always have to point out the obvious?
When sharpies are made illegal, only the criminals will have sharpies.
BPSCG
6th April 2008, 06:44 AM
If I see an eight-year-old on a plane with a Sharpie, I'll... :duck:
Alt+F4
6th April 2008, 06:47 AM
Do you think there's a connection? Does chalk dust inhibit sorcerous powers, enabling us to capture witches without them turning their evil magic on us? If so, why are you arguing against chalkboards? Can it be....that you are yourself a witch? Witch!! Where's my chalk?
Well my students sometimes take the word witch, replace the w with a b, and call me that! My response is of course to throw chalk at them.
Some chalk does have evil magic powers....colored chalk, that :rule10 simply does not erase! Kid told me once that chalk is edible and to prove his point he ate a piece of it in front of me. All the other kids got pissed because now that I had no chalk we had to do a worksheet instead.
billydkid
6th April 2008, 06:50 AM
One of the main features of primary schools in the 1960s was random punishment for practically anything.
This taught us that adults are capricious nutters and encouraged us to think on our feet and dodge fast.
Random punishment. Making children grow up. At a school near you.I well remember school in the sixties. I graduated from Kindergarten in 1960. I have to say my experience going through grammar school and most of high school had a very distinct Dickinsonian flavor to it. David Copperfield had very little on me and many of my classmates. I can well remember the day Kennedy was shot - the principle came of the PA system and through the sobs said "Our President is dead...." the principle being a particularly brutal, cruel and capricious "head master" of the old school who had taken a particular interest in me and crushing whatever spirit I had in me.
BPSCG
6th April 2008, 06:58 AM
Alas, Charlton Heston is no longer among us. He'd have told them where to get off (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4269552435089707598&q=heston+cold+dead&total=6&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0).
Alt+F4
6th April 2008, 07:01 AM
I can well remember the day Kennedy was shot - the principle came of the PA system and through the sobs said "Our President is dead...." the principle being a particularly brutal, cruel and capricious "head master" of the old school who had taken a particular interest in me and crushing whatever spirit I had in me.
I was in high school when President Reagan was shot. The principal came on the PA system and said "Our President has been shot!", then she started sobbing. Of course, all the kids started laughing. I guess times do change.
I love a mean teacher thread! Bring it on. I got an "A" in mean teaching at teacher college. :teacher:
TragicMonkey
6th April 2008, 07:38 AM
I was in high school when President Reagan was shot. The principal came on the PA system and said "Our President has been shot!", then she started sobbing. Of course, all the kids started laughing. I guess times do change.
I love a mean teacher thread! Bring it on. I got an "A" in mean teaching at teacher college. :teacher:
I got that beat. When I was in third grade, we were scheduled to watch a tape of the space shuttle launching. Yeah, that space shuttle. What gets me is that they taped it, then showed it to us without any warning. I doubt they'd get away with that in a public school these days, not without lawsuits.
Oliver
6th April 2008, 07:55 AM
Zero tolerance, zero intelligence.
+1
+zero morality
elaine
6th April 2008, 08:02 AM
I'm a Westy grad. Wow. It wasn't that stupid in 1977, I swear!
Westy...pffftt Redskin pride!
Oh wait..that's Reds now. I wonder what the mascot is?
oops sorry for the derailment.
back to the regularly scheduled program.
pgwenthold
6th April 2008, 12:54 PM
I well remember school in the sixties. I graduated from Kindergarten in 1960. I have to say my experience going through grammar school and most of high school had a very distinct Dickinsonian flavor to it. David Copperfield had very little on me and many of my classmates. I can well remember the day Kennedy was shot - the principle came of the PA system and through the sobs said "Our President is dead...." the principle being a particularly brutal, cruel and capricious "head master" of the old school who had taken a particular interest in me and crushing whatever spirit I had in me.
Pssst...the princiPAL is your PAL
Romona Quimby never liked the principal, ever since Beezus told her that you could remember how to spell principal, because the principal was your pal. She didn't consider the principal her pal, even if you had to spell it that way.
TragicMonkey
6th April 2008, 02:46 PM
Pssst...the princiPAL is your PAL
Romona Quimby never liked the principal, ever since Beezus told her that you could remember how to spell principal, because the principal was your pal. She didn't consider the principal her pal, even if you had to spell it that way.
Even though the principal was really quite nice to Ramona that time she hid behind the trash cans instead of going into kindergarten because she was afraid of the substitute teacher who showed up to take Miss Binney's place.
Holy crap, why do I remember that?
gnome
6th April 2008, 02:51 PM
I think she probably spent most of her early school years sill resentful that she never got her present, even though she stayed put so carefully.
billydkid
6th April 2008, 03:08 PM
Pssst...the princiPAL is your PAL
Romona Quimby never liked the principal, ever since Beezus told her that you could remember how to spell principal, because the principal was your pal. She didn't consider the principal her pal, even if you had to spell it that way.Ok, yes, I spelled principal wrong. You can not imagine the depth of my shame. I also meant to say "Dickensian" and not "Dickensonian" or whatever I said.
pgwenthold
7th April 2008, 05:50 AM
Even though the principal was really quite nice to Ramona that time she hid behind the trash cans instead of going into kindergarten because she was afraid of the substitute teacher who showed up to take Miss Binney's place.
Oh the principals have always been nice to Romona (although when she was in third grade, the principal seemed to avoid her as much as he avoided him). But he wasn't going to be her pal.
grayman
7th April 2008, 05:58 AM
Westy...pffftt Redskin pride!
Oh wait..that's Reds now. I wonder what the mascot is?
The Dancing Commie?
Father Dagon
8th April 2008, 02:44 AM
As far as I remember, the hyperventilation made me more high than the marker. (Only felt a slight buzz with the permanent markers.)
Ian Osborne
8th April 2008, 05:50 AM
And now the kid's been suspended, the entire school is curious about markers. Expect sales of Sharpies in the local area to climb...
BPSCG
8th April 2008, 06:27 AM
Are they going to remove all the pencils from the school next, on the grounds that kids could get lead poisoning?
"We don't care if there's no actual lead in the pencils; we have to protect the children..."
Rob Lister
8th April 2008, 06:51 AM
I think the parents should sue the school for making the markers available to the kids.
Think of the irony.
TragicMonkey
8th April 2008, 07:35 AM
Meanwhile, Blue Star Tattoos are everywhere in the schools, coating our innocent children with LSD!!!
(I had to take home Blue Star Tattoo warnings from four different schools in the eighties. It's amazing how unquashable an urban legend can be.)
godless dave
8th April 2008, 11:50 AM
Are they going to remove all the pencils from the school next, on the grounds that kids could get lead poisoning?
"We don't care if there's no actual lead in the pencils; we have to protect the children..."
Win.
bluess
8th April 2008, 01:10 PM
Actually I support the school on this one. Sniffing Sharpies might be harmless in itself but it is gateway to the real hard stuff like "White-Out" and "Elmer's Safety Glue". It's best to nip it in the bud or you'll have half the kids in the class hanging out in the stationary supply closet during recess...
:D
ravdin
8th April 2008, 01:16 PM
It looks to me like someone has an unhealthy addiction to zero tolerance policies.
TragicMonkey
8th April 2008, 01:28 PM
It looks to me like someone has an unhealthy addiction to zero tolerance policies.
We're instituting a zero tolerance policy with regard to zero tolerance policies.
ponderingturtle
8th April 2008, 04:26 PM
If I see an eight-year-old on a plane with a Sharpie, I'll... :duck:
Cry havok and let slip the Claus of War?
ponderingturtle
8th April 2008, 04:30 PM
The Dancing Commie?
Oh great now I have immages of Tobbias's baby dancing.
Moon-Spinner
9th April 2008, 08:31 AM
these too?
http://store.officeworld.com/ProductImages/united/LargePlus/SAN20072_1_1.JPG
I'm already envisioning 8 year olds having to hit the Black Market to get these, then slyly selling them to classmates during recess at a greatly increased prices. Color Marker Trafficking will be out of control in Elementary Schools all cross the nation!!
And yes, I remember all us kids whiffing the "Ditto Paper" as they were handed out in grade school, and do you know what the teacher response was? - A good hearty laugh!!
(But then again, it WAS the 60s! :D )
Careyp74
9th April 2008, 08:43 AM
If I see an eight-year-old on a plane with a Sharpie, I'll... :duck:
Ah, the callback. Sign of a great comedian. I rate this one a ten.
hcmom
9th April 2008, 09:01 AM
And yes, I remember all us kids whiffing the "Ditto Paper" as they were handed out in grade school, and do you know what the teacher response was? - A good hearty laugh!!
(But then again, it WAS the 60s! :D )
Of course, the very children who were sniffing their test papers in the 60s are now the principals of schools, and we can see what happened to their brains...
skeptifem
9th April 2008, 10:07 AM
Pssst...the princiPAL is your PAL
Romona Quimby never liked the principal, ever since Beezus told her that you could remember how to spell principal, because the principal was your pal. She didn't consider the principal her pal, even if you had to spell it that way.
omg flashback
elaine
9th April 2008, 01:56 PM
I'm already envisioning 8 year olds having to hit the Black Market to get these, then slyly selling them to classmates during recess at a greatly increased prices. Color Marker Trafficking will be out of control in Elementary Schools all cross the nation!!
And yes, I remember all us kids whiffing the "Ditto Paper" as they were handed out in grade school, and do you know what the teacher response was? - A good hearty laugh!!
(But then again, it WAS the 60s! :D )
Yeah. Isn't that what is going on with "unhealthy" snacks? As vending machines are being removed from some schools, the kids are making money by selling snack food.
Ralph
9th April 2008, 05:22 PM
I used to love the smell of a roll of caps fired off my crank-handled, non-politically correct, Thompson machine gun.........smelled like victory.
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