View Full Version : Pre 9/11 Alex Jones - How It All Started
ref
7th April 2008, 06:09 AM
I finally found the answer to the question, why did Alex Jones start hating the Government and Elite so bad?
Are you ready? The reason: IRS.
Back in April of 1999 Alex had this to say:
Jones grew up in Dallas. His family -- both of his parents went to the University of Texas, he says -- moved to Austin when he was a teen-ager, and he finished his last two years of public education at Anderson High School. He went to Austin Community College for a while, he says, but found it boring.
His antipathy for and fear of big government, he says, stems from family problems with the IRS.
"My dad (a dentist) is the most decent, Dudley Doo-Right person. He'll stop and fix people's tires. And I watched the IRS rake him over the coals twice and steal all his money. My grandparents, who are in their 70s, live in South Austin. The IRS tried to steal their house. It's criminal. That's where the venom comes from with me," he says.
http://web.archive.org/web/19990508133342/www.infowars.com/alex_article.html (http://web.archive.org/web/19990508133342/www.infowars.com/alex_article.html)
http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/1363947fa0e7c82f68.bmp
Alex Jones in 1999
He was already ranting about FEMA death camps 10 years ago, back in April 1998:
FEMA- under Senate Resolution 21, is building hundreds, of concentration camps on military bases, set up for families, areas for men, areas for women, areas for women with children, and areas for men who have families on the other side of the camp, and by the way they have triple the guard towers, and I have played this many times on my television show. It's just out of control; I have congressmen on tape, Henry B. Gonzales and others admitting this.
http://web.archive.org/web/19991012215728/members.xoom.com/tienkuo/jones98.htm
Sound familiar, truthers? Alex has ranted about this for 10 years, and what has happened to prove him right? Nothing.
Of course, back then Bill Clinton was the bad guy.
http://web.archive.org/web/19991013122948/infowars.com/clinton.html
Alex also helped to build a new church for the Branch Davidians in Waco.
http://web.archive.org/web/20001207041300/infowars.com/rebuild.html
So there's a little history on Alex Jones. The IRS. Who would've thought.
nicepants
7th April 2008, 07:43 AM
"My dad (a dentist) is the most decent, Dudley Doo-Right person. He'll stop and fix people's tires. And I watched the IRS rake him over the coals twice and steal all his money.
Perhaps if his dad had paid his taxes, the government would have had more money for road maintenance and he wouldn't have had to fix those tires. People who make use of the resources provided by government and refuse to chip in for those services are not "Dudley Doo-Righ"
timhau
7th April 2008, 08:12 AM
Was his old man one of those tax-denier kooks?
aggle-rithm
7th April 2008, 08:13 AM
Jones grew up in Dallas. His family -- both of his parents went to the University of Texas, he says -- moved to Austin when he was a teen-ager, and he finished his last two years of public education at Anderson High School.
GAUUGHHH! That's where I went!
He went to Austin Community College for a while, he says, but found it boring.
GAAUUGGGHHH!!!! I went there, too!!!!
Blender Head
7th April 2008, 08:33 AM
He helped build a Branch Davidian church? What a Waco, er, I mean whacko.
CurtC
7th April 2008, 09:05 AM
I think we should be keeping a closer eye on aggle-rithm.
Bobert
7th April 2008, 09:26 AM
wait a second! I dont have to pay my taxes?
ElMondoHummus
7th April 2008, 09:32 AM
GAUUGHHH! That's where I went!
GAAUUGGGHHH!!!! I went there, too!!!!
Alex? Alex, is that you??
:p:D
aggle-rithm
7th April 2008, 10:52 AM
I think we should be keeping a closer eye on aggle-rithm.
No, no. I checked. He graduated twelve years after me.
Thank GOD I don't have to worry about running into him at reunions.
aggle-rithm
7th April 2008, 10:53 AM
wait a second! I dont have to pay my taxes?
Nope. All you have to do is have zero income.
Manly Man
7th April 2008, 01:07 PM
I remember a news report on local television from when I was in high school (1992-1996) here in the Austin area about Jones going nuts in one of the Department of Public Safety Offices where people are supposed to go and get their driver's licenses. The report basically said that the host of a local cable access show had caused a disturbance at the office and was removed (don't remember if he was arrested). I later saw him on cable access (I think his show was Infowars then, but I'm not sure...) and he was running his footage from the incident. Basically, he was there to protest a new rule requiring residents to submit a thumb print when they renew their dl. He was at the counter with his cameraman acting all calm and cool until they asked for his thumb print. At that point he launched into this whole "I am not a criminal" diatribe and began waving various papers in the faces of these hapless clerks telling them they were oppressing him or something to that effect. A state trooper came out and actually seemed fairly sympathetic to Jones before finally escorting him from the premises. I haven't seen any of this footage in years, so I may be mistaken on some of it. And I'm too lazy right now to look for it.
It's interesting, though, because I've never had to submit a thumb print to renew my dl, which I have done since then. I'm sure this is not due to Jones' antics, but you'd think as fond as he is of blowing his own horn he'd have made mention of this. It's the one area where I can actually find evidence that he MIGHT have affected public policy.
I remember seeing his Bohemian Grove expose on cable access well before 9-11. He's been doing the whole NWO/Satanic Global Elite thing for a while. I also remember him being among the most vocal Y2K scaremongers in the area.
uruk
7th April 2008, 01:24 PM
GAUUGHHH! That's where I went!
GAAUUGGGHHH!!!! I went there, too!!!!
Ah Ha!!!!! Guilty by association.
We're going to have to ask you to turn in your JREF identification card, parking permit and bumper stickers as well as remove your JREF tattoo with a cheese grater.
All right! Shackle him to the stone of shame!!!
Walter Ego
7th April 2008, 02:49 PM
He helped build a Branch Davidian church? What a Waco, er, I mean whacko.
He led a drive to rebuild the church at Waco.
Associated Press, September 19, 1999
Branch Davidian church rising at Mount Carmel
The project was organized and led by Austin radio talk show host Alex Jones, 25, who has called the Davidians victims of "a government cover- up of its violation of the First Amendment."
Jones began the drive to rebuild the church during a broadcast on his KJFK-FM show Sept. 13.
He said that he and others have been talking for three years about building a structure on the site.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/waco/waco64.html
Jones can be seen at the rebuild church in this Ron Jonson documentary starting at about 45:00 mark. The program was premiered in the Spring of 2001 so the footage was probably shot sometime in 2000.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4565369222910430105
ref
8th April 2008, 12:27 AM
I remember a news report on local television from when I was in high school (1992-1996) here in the Austin area about Jones going nuts in one of the Department of Public Safety Offices where people are supposed to go and get their driver's licenses. The report basically said that the host of a local cable access show had caused a disturbance at the office and was removed (don't remember if he was arrested). I later saw him on cable access (I think his show was Infowars then, but I'm not sure...) and he was running his footage from the incident. Basically, he was there to protest a new rule requiring residents to submit a thumb print when they renew their dl. He was at the counter with his cameraman acting all calm and cool until they asked for his thumb print. At that point he launched into this whole "I am not a criminal" diatribe and began waving various papers in the faces of these hapless clerks telling them they were oppressing him or something to that effect. A state trooper came out and actually seemed fairly sympathetic to Jones before finally escorting him from the premises. I haven't seen any of this footage in years, so I may be mistaken on some of it. And I'm too lazy right now to look for it.
It's interesting, though, because I've never had to submit a thumb print to renew my dl, which I have done since then. I'm sure this is not due to Jones' antics, but you'd think as fond as he is of blowing his own horn he'd have made mention of this. It's the one area where I can actually find evidence that he MIGHT have affected public policy.
I remember seeing his Bohemian Grove expose on cable access well before 9-11. He's been doing the whole NWO/Satanic Global Elite thing for a while. I also remember him being among the most vocal Y2K scaremongers in the area.
I heard, that Jones has bought cameras to tape his weekday shows. And his show is now 4 hours instead of 3 :cool:
I believe he had a cable access TV show in the 90'es, but what happened then? Was he taken off the air? I think he was at least fired from KJFK-FM in 1999 because of his views.
1999 was also the year infowars.com started.
Magenta
8th April 2008, 01:03 AM
Basically, he was there to protest a new rule requiring residents to submit a thumb print when they renew their dl. He was at the counter with his cameraman acting all calm and cool until they asked for his thumb print. At that point he launched into this whole "I am not a criminal" diatribe and began waving various papers in the faces of these hapless clerks telling them they were oppressing him or something to that effect. A state trooper came out and actually seemed fairly sympathetic to Jones before finally escorting him from the premises. I haven't seen any of this footage in years, so I may be mistaken on some of it. And I'm too lazy right now to look for it.
If that could be found it's crying out for the Monty Python treatment - Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
Sporanox
8th April 2008, 01:08 AM
Actually, I think I might be able to sympathize with Jones' dad on this one...I've read too many independent accounts of IRS agents getting carried away with their power to destroy lives in Reader's Digest.
One story in particular sticks out - this one woman happened to insult an agent when he screwed up, and the next thing she knew she was getting audited and slammed for (perhaps nonexistent) discrepancies in her tax forms.
Not saying that Jones' dad was paying his taxes, because I don't have any clue about their personal circumstances, but it is indeed possible for the government to abuse its regulatory powers.
Walter Ego
8th April 2008, 01:10 AM
I heard, that Jones has bought cameras to tape his weekday shows. And his show is now 4 hours instead of 3 :cool:
I believe he had a cable access TV show in the 90'es, but what happened then? Was he taken off the air? I think he was at least fired from KJFK-FM in 1999 because of his views.
1999 was also the year infowars.com started.
He began on community access TV and moved on to syndicated radio. He shrewdly saw the value of exploiting the internet in the late 1990s.You can find some dish about him and info about his early days from the Austin Chronicle.
December 10, 1999
Media Clips
Psst, It's a Conspiracy: KJFK Gives Alex Jones the Boot
By Lee Nichols
Add one more conspiracy to the list. Alex Jones -- who is either Austin's great exposer of truth or a black helicopter conspiracy nut, depending on your worldview -- has been canned from his evening talk show on KJFK (98.9FM).
http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/print?oid=75039
July 14, 2000
Media Clips
Alex Jones: Conspiracy Victim or Evil Mastermind?
By Lee Nichols
Alex Jones is no stranger to conspiracy theories. As watchers of his access television shows and listeners to radio shows are well aware, he is devoted to exposing the many conspiracies he believes are threatening our freedom. But to listen to some of Jones' critics, there is a new conspiracy afoot -- and Alex Jones is behind it.
Jones' rants -- formerly heard on KJFK radio and still aired on the Austin Community Access Center's (ACAC, formerly ACTV) television stations, the Internet (www.infowars.com), and his syndicated radio programs -- have become a regular fixture in our town's cultural landscape.
But a group of current and former ACAC programmers contend that their freedom -- specifically, their right to free speech and to disagree with Jones -- is what is really being threatened, thanks to what they call Jones' heavy-handed tactics. The programmers' allegations -- which they have made very public by both broadcasting them on ACAC shows and posting them on Web pages -- are that Jones has used both ACAC policy and legal maneuvers to intimidate them or get them thrown off the air.
http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/print?oid=77932
July 14, 2000
http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/column?oid=77891
The time has come to talk of Alex Jones. When the Chronicle editorial staff first considered how to cover the ongoing controversy at Austin Community Access Center (ACAC) regarding Jones, there was almost a consensus not to do it. The feeling was that regardless of what we said about Jones it would empower him, helping to further define him as a spokesperson in our community. There was also the tar baby concern -- once you got into it with Jones, you could never get out. The feeling was that despite his beliefs, his overriding goal was self-promotion. It was solely to his advantage to extend any interaction. The staff did not want to participate in any support, promotion, or ongoing dialogue with Jones, but the ACAC story is important to our community.
uk_dave
8th April 2008, 02:21 AM
I blame Jon Ronson.
Drs_Res
8th April 2008, 02:40 AM
I heard, that Jones has bought cameras to tape his weekday shows. And his show is now 4 hours instead of 3 :cool:
I believe he had a cable access TV show in the 90'es, but what happened then? Was he taken off the air? I think he was at least fired from KJFK-FM in 1999 because of his views.
1999 was also the year infowars.com started.
Wait..... Alex Jones was on KJFK ?!?!
Inside job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HENTAI DOUKYUSEI JP
8th April 2008, 02:48 AM
Anybody bothered watching " WACO: big lies"?
I have to dig in my pile of BETA tapes to find it but in this "documentary", the stupid narrator claims that it was the tanks who were shooting fire thru the building and she also claimed that you couldn't see the tanks doing so but with studio equipment you could!
WELL! someone forgot to tell these idiots that if that was the case, they could've just enhanced it for all to see!
ref
8th April 2008, 04:42 AM
He began on community access TV and moved on to syndicated radio. He shrewdly saw the value of exploiting the internet in the late 1990s.You can find some dish about him and info about his early days from the Austin Chronicle.
Thanks Walter. Interesting Austin Chronicle links.
booneyTune
8th April 2008, 05:11 AM
I remember a news report on local television from when I was in high school (1992-1996) here in the Austin area about Jones going nuts in one of the Department of Public Safety Offices where people are supposed to go and get their driver's licenses. The report basically said that the host of a local cable access show had caused a disturbance at the office and was removed (don't remember if he was arrested). I later saw him on cable access (I think his show was Infowars then, but I'm not sure...) and he was running his footage from the incident. Basically, he was there to protest a new rule requiring residents to submit a thumb print when they renew their dl. He was at the counter with his cameraman acting all calm and cool until they asked for his thumb print. At that point he launched into this whole "I am not a criminal" diatribe and began waving various papers in the faces of these hapless clerks telling them they were oppressing him or something to that effect. A state trooper came out and actually seemed fairly sympathetic to Jones before finally escorting him from the premises. I haven't seen any of this footage in years, so I may be mistaken on some of it. And I'm too lazy right now to look for it.
Here's the video of Alex going postal at the DMV. Due to my noob status, I can't post the full link, but if someone would take what I have below and embed the video in their post, I'm sure it would be easier, and then everybody will be able to witness the craziness.
youtube.com/watch?v=zrERbNg7Tb4
ref
8th April 2008, 05:12 AM
And let's not forget, that Alex Jones was a candidate for the Republican Party.
But the most crowded field of contenders is over in Dist. 48, where Rep. Sherri Greenberg is stepping down and nine -- two Democrats and seven Republicans -- want to be her successor. On the Democratic side are community activist Mandy Dealey and attorney Ann Kitchen. The GOP lineup is a mixed bunch that includes conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, three attorneys: Jill Warren, Joe Anderson and Scott Loras; UT student Robert Wyckoff, community redevelopment booster Al Stowell, and businesswoman Maria Gavila Burbridge. Watch for more coverage in coming weeks...
http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid:75425
jhunter1163
8th April 2008, 05:21 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrERbNg7Tb4
Horatius
8th April 2008, 05:33 AM
And let's not forget, that Alex Jones was a candidate for the Republican Party.
Oh, man, someone post that over at LCF, quick! Stundies will fly like pies at a Vaudeville convention!
uk_dave
8th April 2008, 09:44 AM
Yeah well, so was Ron Paul. Such is the way of american politics, those standing as candidates don't actually have to share any of the core values of the party they seek to represent.
Manly Man
8th April 2008, 10:51 AM
Thanks for finding that, booneyTune. That was a blast from the past.
"This is not a publicity stunt!"
The station that was KJFK used to be the local Z-Rock affiliate, but became all talk when that corporation went under (or whatever happened to 'em). I don't think KJFK lasted very long in the talk format, though. It's now La Ley 98.9 and plays Tejano. Jones currently airs his radio program on 590 KLBJ AM. He's got a good local audience.
ref
8th April 2008, 11:48 AM
Here's the video of Alex going postal at the DMV. Due to my noob status, I can't post the full link, but if someone would take what I have below and embed the video in their post, I'm sure it would be easier, and then everybody will be able to witness the craziness.
youtube.com/watch?v=zrERbNg7Tb4
Thanks for the link. Classic Jones. He has aged so much in 10+ years.
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