New WTC demolition evidence?

[cloudshipsrule]

You can't watch this video and say the WTC weren't controlled demolitions. Can you?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cd8_1207250054

That garage fell faster than freefall, just like the WTC's.

[Pardalis]

Noticed the pyroclastic flow as well?

Those pesky volcanoes, they're everywhere!

[Dumb All Over]

You can't watch this video and say the WTC weren't controlled demolitions. Can you?

Yes.

[Jonnyclueless]

I just came from Atlantic City and saw the spot. There was no Garage, so that demolition was obviously fake. If there was really a demolition there, then what happened to the garage? Think about it...

[DGM]

Yes......yes I can....
Atlantic City residents awoke this morning at 7:00 AM to the crack of explosives and a large cloud of dust.

need I be any more clearer?

[Architect]

Out of interest, notice how long it took to come down after the explosions? And how slow the "puffs" were?

[HeyLeroy]

cloudshipsrule, if as you say this fell faster than freefall (I haven't bothered watching this video; answer my question and I'll humour you), what added source of energy was present to actually push the material to cause it to accellerate at a rate faster than gravity would dictate?

ETA: This (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=112_1175440698) video (at the beginning) hints at the preparation involved in a controlled demolition. Notice the bare concrete walls, the holes, the explosive charges and wiring an' stuff.

[CHF]

Yet another LOUD controlled demolition.

The only kind known to exist.

[Drudgewire]

You can't watch this video and say the WTC weren't controlled demolitions. Can you?
Is this a trick question? http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/colbert.gif

[uruk]

Notice how many explosion it took to knock down just those few floors? Notice the noise?

Also. Faster than free fall? How does anything fall faster than free fall? Where there rocket engines on the roof pushing the debris down?

[sts60]

I heard some of our USAR guys describe the collapse - the accidental, non-explosives, collapse - of a parking garage they witnessed. They remarked on how quickly it fell. "It was just WHAMWHAMWHAM", one of them said.

[Pato2747]

Have you seen any of those flashes or the 'squibs' at every floor of WTC 1, 2, or 7, before collapsing?

Hint: No.

[Comsat Angel]

You can't watch this video and say the WTC weren't controlled demolitions. Can you?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cd8_1207250054

That garage fell faster than freefall, just like the WTC's.

A career in satire beckons, you, cloudships.

[HeyLeroy]

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/619745a54bbe44f13.gif

Another drive-by troothing.

[cloudshipsrule]

I was being sarcastic, just in case anyone missed it. :)

I enjoy mocking the truth movement when I have a minute or two to spare.

[Unsecured Coins]

I was being sarcastic, just in case anyone missed it. :)

I enjoy mocking the truth movement when I have a minute or two to spare.


oh yeah? well, I mock better than you mock! nanner nanner boo boo

[Cl1mh4224rd]

oh yeah? well, I mock better than you mock! nanner nanner boo boo


I see your two mocks and raise you three. Mock, mock mock! (mock, mock...? I suck at poker.)

[MIKILLINI]

You can't watch this video and say the WTC weren't controlled demolitions. Can you?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cd8_1207250054

That garage fell faster than freefall, just like the WTC's.


Why after watching this video would it leave doubt in a persons mind about how and why the WTC's collapsed?
Unless your just playing using the truther "looks like" logic in a sarcastic satirical manner.

ETA: Ok never mind. Post #15 explains that. LOL

[HeyLeroy]

I was being sarcastic, just in case anyone missed it. :)

I enjoy mocking the truth movement when I have a minute or two to spare.

Eh, sorry, CSR. Been away for a bit. I knew I'd seen your name here before, and I didn't recognize the sarcasm.

Stand-down order, everyone.

HEAR THAT GUYS?!!? STAND-DOWN ORDER!!!!!!!!!

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Eh, sorry, CSR. Been away for a bit. I knew I'd seen your name here before, and I didn't recognize the sarcasm.

Stand-down order, everyone.

HEAR THAT GUYS?!!? STAND-DOWN ORDER!!!!!!!!!

Can I smoke if I've gottem?

[deep]

You guys think this is all a big joke, so I doubt you're even noticing the multiple similarities between the collapse in that video and the collapse of WTC7:
Look at the amount of dust created.
Look at the speed of the collapse, from start to finish.
Look at the base characteristics of the rubble pile - sizes, shapes, etc (relative to type of structure that was being demolished, of course).The first one is the most striking similarity, followed by the second, and then a distant third.

Maybe you could post a video of something else collapsing without explosives (but fire is OK) that also generates the same amount of dust? Doesn't necessarily have to be a building..

[DGM]

You guys think this is all a big joke, so I doubt you're even noticing the multiple similarities between the collapse in that video and the collapse of WTC7:
Look at the amount of dust created.
Look at the speed of the collapse, from start to finish.
Look at the base characteristics of the rubble pile - sizes, shapes, etc (relative to type of structure that was being demolished, of course).The first one is the most striking similarity, followed by the second, and then a distant third.

Maybe you could post a video of something else collapsing without explosives (but fire is OK) that also generates the same amount of dust? Doesn't necessarily have to be a building..

Yeah, Because they both happened in the presence of GRAVITY!

[GlennB]

I see your two mocks and raise you three. Mock, mock mock! (mock, mock...? I suck at poker.)

Seems you do suck at poker. Your action here is called a "string raise" and isn't allowed. :p

[MRC_Hans]

Look at the amount of dust created.

Yeah, when big things fall down, there will be dust. There was much more dust from the WTC because, that was not as tripped-down building, but full of gypsum walls, insulation, furniture, and such stuff.

Explain how dust is a marker of a CT, and not just a characteristic of a collapse.

Look at the speed of the collapse, from start to finish.

A progressive collapse happens at that speed.


Look at the base characteristics of the rubble pile - sizes, shapes, etc (relative to type of structure that was being demolished, of course).
The first one is the most striking similarity, followed by the second, and then a distant third.


Well, if you have seen one rubble pile, you have more or less seen them all.

Maybe you could post a video of something else collapsing without explosives (but fire is OK) that also generates the same amount of dust? Doesn't necessarily have to be a building..

Dust again. So, explain why dust is a marker for CD. What specifically, in a CD, creates dust? And, what will be the composition of that dust?

Hans

[Anti-sophist]

You guys think this is all a big joke, so I doubt you're even noticing the multiple similarities between

Logical fallacy alert. Did you also notice the multiple dissimilarities? Maybe the giant explosions?

[Dave Rogers]

Maybe you could post a video of something else collapsing without explosives (but fire is OK) that also generates the same amount of dust? Doesn't necessarily have to be a building..

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/339311/building_collapse/

At 0:45 there's a partial collapse of a small portion of the corner of the building that creates a dust cloud big enough to engulf a group of firemen. This isn't a big parking garage, it's a small localised failure of a very small area, yet there's a big dust cloud. See also 2:17 and 2:32. Big dust clouds again.

The biggest similarity between cloudshipsrule's video and the WTC7 collapse is that it's standing at the beginning and it's fallen down at the end. The dust cloud follows on from that. Quite simply, when masonry collapses from any significant height, it creates a dust cloud. Gravitational potential energy -> kinetic energy -> fracture energy -> surface energy, and explosives aren't a factor.

Dave

[Slayhamlet]

You guys think this is all a big joke, so I doubt you're even noticing the multiple similarities between the collapse in that video and the collapse of WTC7:
Look at the amount of dust created.
Look at the speed of the collapse, from start to finish.
Look at the base characteristics of the rubble pile - sizes, shapes, etc (relative to type of structure that was being demolished, of course).The first one is the most striking similarity, followed by the second, and then a distant third.

Maybe you could post a video of something else collapsing without explosives (but fire is OK) that also generates the same amount of dust? Doesn't necessarily have to be a building..

You really think it's explosives that cause all the dust in demolition jobs, not the collapse itself? Really?

The basilica of San Francesco d'Assisi. Watch at 1:05
nty4PX-exMk

All that dust is from the collapse of just a fraction of the vault.

And of course you realize it's impossible to post a video of any building collapses that generated the same amount of dust as the WTC Towers without explosives, as no buildings nearly as large as the WTC Towers have ever collapsed except from explosives. This is because large airliners going full-speed don't normally crash into them, and explosive demolition is the only way to bring such large structures down safely.

[Pardalis]

You really think it's explosives that cause all the dust in demolition jobs, not the collapse itself? Really?

The basilica of San Francesco d'Assisi. Watch at 1:05
nty4PX-exMk

All that dust is from the collapse of just a fraction of the vault.

So somehow the earthquake triggered the volcano?