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CHF
9th April 2008, 11:43 AM
Off hand I can think of a few, including....

- DR Griffin claiming that Ted Olson is lying about his wife's phone call from Flight 77.

- Jason Burmass claiming the firefighters were "paid off" (similar accusations have been made in numerous WTC7 debates even though twoofers desperately try to avoid saying so).

- McPadden claiming that a Red Cross worker was listening to the WTC7 "countdown."

- Some moron at Ground Zero telling me that every expert in the world is covering up 9/11.

uk_dave
9th April 2008, 11:43 AM
What are the TM's most absurd accusations of conspiracy and/or coverup?

All of them

MikeW
9th April 2008, 11:49 AM
The idea that the BBC would have needed a "script" to report the collapse of WTC7, even though their reporter was standing in front of it.

applecorped
9th April 2008, 12:39 PM
Dylan Avery hands out the flyers
At the march when nobody is there
Nobody cares

Look at him shilling
Making up lies upon lies like a media whore
Who is for?

All the lonely sheeple
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely sheeple
Where do they all belong?

DC
9th April 2008, 12:42 PM
are space based EWP's and Mininukes also TM claims?

twinstead
9th April 2008, 12:53 PM
are space based EWP's and Mininukes also TM claims?

Oh yes. The OP doesn't even brush the surface of the REALLY crazy claims. One thing that they have, though, is at least they have the guts to come out with a theory, even if it is ludicrous.

ElMondoHummus
9th April 2008, 12:58 PM
are space based EWP's and Mininukes also TM claims?

Yes, unfortunately. Dr. Judy Wood is famous for proposing the idea of space based "beam weapon" (Link (http://www.911blogger.com/node/4449)).

And this Rense.com article: http://www.rense.com/general76/wtc.htm

... tries to make the case that elevated Tritium was the smoking gun proving nuclear weaponry use in the case of the WTC. There's been discussion (and much derision) of that exact hypothesis in this very forum; you can use the search function up above and look for the terms "WTC" and "nuke" to get a list of threads.

DC
9th April 2008, 01:03 PM
Oh yes. The OP doesn't even brush the surface of the REALLY crazy claims. One thing that they have, though, is at least they have the guts to come out with a theory, even if it is ludicrous.

yeah not like the official side the still has no complete "official theory"

CHF
9th April 2008, 01:06 PM
Oh yes. The OP doesn't even brush the surface of the REALLY crazy claims.

I beliberately ignored stuff like space means, no-planes-hit-the-WTC and mimi-nukes because (in fairness to the TM) they do represent a fringe group of twoofers - even though folks like Judy Wood, Killtown and Morgan Reynolds were at one time admired by the rank-and-file.

CHF
9th April 2008, 01:09 PM
dp

Swing Dangler
9th April 2008, 01:15 PM
[QUOTE=CHF;3604625]Off hand I can think of a few, including....

- DR Griffin claiming that Ted Olson is lying about his wife's phone call from Flight 77.
Wasn't that due to the FBI's lack of evidence?

- Jason Burmass claiming the firefighters were "paid off" (similar accusations have been made in numerous WTC7 debates even though twoofers desperately try to avoid saying so).
Hey, I actually agree with you on this! ;)

- McPadden claiming that a Red Cross worker was listening to the WTC7 "countdown."


- Some moron at Ground Zero telling me that every expert in the world is covering up 9/11.
Sorry, can't comment on that. When did you go to GZ, CHF?

I would agree to space beams as well as no planes.

defaultdotxbe
9th April 2008, 01:51 PM
Hey, I actually agree with you on this! ;)

- McPadden claiming that a Red Cross worker was listening to the WTC7 "countdown."
in another thread you mentioned indira singh, she says the FDNY brought down WTC7 (or at the very least they knew about it and are now apparently keeping quiet) how do you reconcile this?

CHF
9th April 2008, 01:52 PM
Wasn't that due to the FBI's lack of evidence?

Griffin accused Olson of lying about his wife's phone call because, as any Griffin fan knows, those phone calls were impossible.

When did you go to GZ, CHF?

In Sept of 06' and then again last August.

Hey, I actually agree with you on this! :wink:

Does this mean you'll be the first twoofer to reconcile WTC7's "demolition" with the fact that many FDNY knew WTC7 would collapse from structural damage?

Jonnyclueless
9th April 2008, 01:54 PM
I think the theory of someone placing explosives in a building that is going to fall anyways is about as absurd as it gets.

aggle-rithm
9th April 2008, 02:06 PM
I think the theory of someone placing explosives in a building that is going to fall anyways is about as absurd as it gets.

Or the idea of Larry Silverstein secretly destroying his own heavily-damaged building, costing himself years of lost lease revenue, so he could collect an insurance settlement that didn't come close to covering his financial losses.

eromitlab
9th April 2008, 02:10 PM
I especially like the idea that 7 was "pulled" to destroy documents related to SEC investigations. Hey, whenever I want to get rid of my old financial statements and documents, I just put shaped therm*te charges on the columns of my home and knock it down. It makes perfect sense.

DC
9th April 2008, 02:12 PM
I think the theory of someone placing explosives in a building that is going to fall anyways is about as absurd as it gets.

when they fall anyway, indeed

applecorped
9th April 2008, 02:23 PM
Edited for civility

gumboot
9th April 2008, 03:12 PM
I like the more recent claims that the airline companies were in on it. Because there's nothing that a publicly traded company wants more than rock bottom share prices!

gumboot
9th April 2008, 03:17 PM
double post.

Walter Ego
9th April 2008, 03:25 PM
Quote:
When did you go to GZ, CHF?




In Sept of 06' and then again last August.




Here’s CHF’s encounter with the truthers at Ground Zero last August. The grey-bearded middle-aged guy in videos 2 and 3 is particularly idiotic.


http://911vids.blogspot.com/2008/02/truthers-speak-at-ground-zero.html

bonavada
9th April 2008, 03:51 PM
my memory's getting a bit faulty nowadays. i'm racking my brain about the claim that one (pentagon?) army officer took a day off and played golf on 9-11 all the while knowing that his young son was doomed to die on one of the flights. and did nothing about it.
this one has to be bottom of the pile.

BV

jhunter1163
9th April 2008, 05:21 PM
my memory's getting a bit faulty nowadays. i'm racking my brain about the claim that one (pentagon?) army officer took a day off and played golf on 9-11 all the while knowing that his young son was doomed to die on one of the flights. and did nothing about it.
this one has to be bottom of the pile.

BV

Bernard Brown is the name you're looking for, and yes indeed, that's about as low as one can go.

dudalb
9th April 2008, 05:40 PM
Bernard Brown is the name you're looking for, and yes indeed, that's about as low as one can go.

That is about as disgusting as you can get, but I would not be surprised if a Twoofer managed to go even lower.

Jonnyclueless
9th April 2008, 05:57 PM
when they fall anyway, indeed

Exactly. I guess the eveil perps behind the diabolical caper must have been saing "bwahahaha. But the building will only come down in 30 seconds (or whatever the unrealistic absurd timing recommended by the twoofers is), we need it down in 10 seconds! We'll have to blow out every other floor to make it happen or else we won't get the dramatic ending for the movie."

And of course there is Jones remark of "well they just need a little bit just to make it fall:", to which the the response is "yes but you claimed it fell free fall which would mean you have to take out pretty much every other floor and the whole small amount of explosives defeats the whole argument of the collapse time".

How some of these guys get to teach is beyond me.

Brainache
9th April 2008, 06:00 PM
Have we mentioned Killtown's "faces in the smoke" nonsense yet?

TC's tiny little drone plane that did, umm... something at Shanksville?

All of Ace Baker's work?

stateofgrace
9th April 2008, 06:07 PM
That is about as disgusting as you can get, but I would not be surprised if a Twoofer managed to go even lower.

This idiot makes a valiant attempt.

gmjjK2MYKDg

twinstead
9th April 2008, 06:23 PM
yeah not like the official side the still has no complete "official theory"

And when you present an alternative theory that fits ALL the available evidence better than the 'official theory' you might actually not be laughed at for posts like that.

defaultdotxbe
9th April 2008, 06:32 PM
Have we mentioned Killtown's "faces in the smoke" nonsense yet?

TC's tiny little drone plane that did, umm... something at Shanksville?

All of Ace Baker's work?
i think the OP is referring more to accusations of whos "in on it" not just absurd theories (we have plenty of threads for those)

bonavada
9th April 2008, 06:34 PM
Bernard Brown is the name you're looking for, and yes indeed, that's about as low as one can go.

Ta
After a quick Google it seems Killtown had a heavy hand (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22bernard+brown%22+Killtown&btnG=Search&meta=) in spreading this vile myth and i also found Dylan Avery perpetuating it

HERE (http://911underground.com/WING_TV_2004-11-01_Dylan_Avery_Interview.MP3)

(MP3 <3mb Dylan Avery interview Wing TV 01/11/2004)

I wonder if Avery still stands by his words (at about 18 mins)

...........Me and Phil were actually considering tracking him down and getting him [Bernard Brown Snr] on the phone just to talk to him about 9-11 and see if anything slips, but I think he was either deeply involved with it and talking to him on the phone about it might not be such a hot idea, or well i really I think, talking to him about sending his son to die might be a bad idea [laughs]..............

scum

BV

jhunter1163
9th April 2008, 06:40 PM
I'd like to give Mr. Brown a nice titanium driver, then invite Dylan and Killtown to ask him about sending his son to die.

On second thought, perhaps not. It would be a waste of a good driver.

Foolmewunz
9th April 2008, 06:47 PM
Every word that's ever been uttered or typed by any member of CIT.
Every thought that's ever enterred Killtown's head.

We're not including the seriously impaired like Chris Brown, I guess?

bonavada
9th April 2008, 06:53 PM
Every word that's ever been uttered or typed by any member of CIT.
Every thought that's ever enterred Killtown's head.
We're not including the seriously impaired like Chris Brown, I guess?


christophera must be included. the sheer lunacy of the realistice concrete core thread demands so. Who can forget the time-shifting mohawks and the phantom PBS doc?

classic.

BV

CHF
9th April 2008, 07:01 PM
i think the OP is referring more to accusations of whos "in on it" not just absurd theories (we have plenty of threads for those)

Yes, that is what I'm looking for: the most absurd "in on it" accusations.

So far I've got

- BBC
- Red Cross
- FDNY
- victims' family members (Olson, Brown etc)

I'm sure there are plenty of others.

defaultdotxbe
9th April 2008, 07:40 PM
Yes, that is what I'm looking for: the most absurd "in on it" accusations.

So far I've got

- BBC
- Red Cross
- FDNY
- victims' family members (Olson, Brown etc)

I'm sure there are plenty of others.
the hijackers are just patsies chosen at random (and left alive for some reason) and its the victims themselves who are in on it and are all now working for the government in some secret capacity

i cant recall the specific source for that one though

Reheat
9th April 2008, 07:44 PM
It's very difficult to choose the most absurd as 99.9% of them are absurd, but the Bernard Brown accusation has to be the most low down, meanest, and dirtiest one of the bunch.

Oh, the logic! It makes my head hurt.

Any accusation at all toward the Military defies comprehension. For the NORAD Stand Down to be true, everyone from the lowest ranking Airman to the most senior Officer involved would have to be "in on it". It goes on and on and on.

Horatius
9th April 2008, 09:14 PM
I'd say the most absurd "in on it" accusation would be Lloyd England. Yep, the one guy we rely on to establish the cover-up of the fake plane crash at the Pentagon is an elderly cab driver who has trouble even describing what happened to him!

defaultdotxbe
9th April 2008, 09:14 PM
Any accusation at all toward the Military defies comprehension. For the NORAD Stand Down to be true, everyone from the lowest ranking Airman to the most senior Officer involved would have to be "in on it". It goes on and on and on.
not in on it, just sheep who blindly follow orders without thinking or questioning

thats what any non-truther really is, right? a sheep?

realitybites
9th April 2008, 10:10 PM
I like the theory that a 12 hour power down in one half of one tower provided the NWO enough time to plant explosives in not one... not two... but three of the tallest buildings in the WTC complex.

And here I thought government projects were always inefficient.

Magenta
9th April 2008, 10:48 PM
Terral's claim (at LCF) that the firefighters at the Pentagon were somehow complicit in a coverup. Especially as he was arguing with an actual firefighter (YCHTT) and trying to tell him how they should have been fighting the fire.

Brainache
9th April 2008, 11:47 PM
i think the OP is referring more to accusations of whos "in on it" not just absurd theories (we have plenty of threads for those)

OK. In that case I think Killtown's "faces in the smoke" nonsense may still qualify because, when asked who put them there (IIRC), he seemed to suggest that it was the same Disney animators who added the fake planes to all the news footage.

I think accusing the PIXAR people is pretty absurd.

ElMondoHummus
9th April 2008, 11:50 PM
Terral's claim (at LCF) that the firefighters at the Pentagon were somehow complicit in a coverup. Especially as he was arguing with an actual firefighter (YCHTT) and trying to tell him how they should have been fighting the fire.

Oh, Gawd, I remember that one. How do you:

"Explain" (yes, scare quotes) aspects of firefighting to a firefighter in the LCF forum
Continue to do so after said firefighter comes here and calls him on it, then
Continue further to insist that his interpretation is correct over the firefighter's explanations and corrections, and continue to act as though everyone else is just buying into the "Bushie" conspiracy?It's one thing to merely be absolutely, stubbornly wrong, but it's a whole other level to continue pushing the wrong directly at a practicing professional who knows the truth! I'd be more qualified to speak to a surgeon about surgery than Terral was with YCHTT about firefighting, and I've never been to medical school!

There are times I believe some of the truthers posting here don't really believe what they're saying. I mean, being that diametrically opposed to reality suggests dysfunction, and obviously these folks are somehow getting by in the world. So when someone like Terral shows up and pushes such clichéd stuff, I wonder if they're not simply trying to push buttons. Like going to a Jewish forum and pushing the Holocaust as a good thing, something stupid like that.

Brainster
10th April 2008, 12:21 AM
Richard Andrew Grove is a virtual cornucopia of nuttery. He claimed that in one scene in the movie The Patriot, Mel Gibson was making a rocking chair; when it was complete he put it on a scale and pronounced that it was exactly 9 pounds, eleven ounces in weight. Why anybody would weigh a piece of furniture in the 1770s was never explained, and as to why the NWO bosses felt it necessary to include that 9-11 reference was similarly not discussed.

He also claimed that he was supposed to be in a meeting to confront some executive about a bit of software fraud on the 95th floor of the North Tower, but he ran late. Everybody who was at the meeting perished, except... dun dun dun! the executive who was supposed to be there.

The really odd thing about that is that Grove is the second person to claim he was supposed to be in one of the towers to discuss suspicious doings regarding software but he was running late; Indira Singh (another trip and a half) also said she was going to be doing the same thing regarding P-Tech (don't ask), but she was running late.

gc051360
10th April 2008, 12:29 AM
Not the craziest. Not the dumbest. But the one that I would count as the most absurd, is the Larry Silverstein "pull it" claim.

Space beams, and all of that stuff....aren't really popular claims in the truth movement. Though, they are extremely absurd.

But, the most common claim seems to be the controlled demolition, with heavy focus on building 7. Larry Silverstein's quote, is usually used as a piece of evidence. I find this to be the most absurd, because:

1) It assumes the controlled demolition theory.

2) It assumes Larry Silverstein would have the power to "make the call" on an apparent whim

3) It assumes that after making this call, he would admit it, in vague language, in an interview.

4) It is very popular. Most truthers refer to this, quite a bit.

For my money. This is the most absurd of all the claims, because of how much it ignores obvious facts. You do not need to know much about 9-11, or engineering to look at this piece of evidence, and conclude it's bs. eta: Which is what makes it's use so shocking.

uk_dave
10th April 2008, 12:34 AM
The life cycle of the lesser spotted 'truther'......

Yes I believe everything anyone who supports the 9-11 ct says and I do not need to investigate the backgrounds of these people or ask them any awkward questions about possible flaws in their recollections/assumptions/technical expertise, unless my fellow 'truthers' tell me to, in which case I shall cry 'disinfo' and 'cointelpro' and disown the ct advocates who fly counter to the majority ct belief, unless my own beliefs are shown to be provably wrong in which case I will adopt as unassailable the beliefs of those previously called 'non people' by the 'truth' movement and I shall cry 'disinfo' and 'cointelpro' against my former comrades, until a debunker proves my new theories to be incorrect and I can no longer make anyone believe a thing I say and I shall ignore everyone and pout until my mistakes are forgotten at which point I will re-enter the fray with the same questions and unreliable sources I started out with.

Dave Rogers
10th April 2008, 02:49 AM
Actually, Jim Hoffman's Scenario 404 has a real howler. He claims that the demolition charges in WTC1 and WTC2 could have been placed by three people in one month. If you then work out, from his assumptions about the total weight of explosives and the weight of charges required, how many charges they had to place, it comes out that if they worked evenings and weekends for a month they would have had to place one charge every ten seconds.

Dave

deep
10th April 2008, 05:03 AM
I like the theory that a 12 hour power down in one half of one tower provided the NWO enough time to plant explosives in not one... not two... but three of the tallest buildings in the WTC complex.

And here I thought government projects were always inefficient.


Sorry, I don't think the OP was looking for any made up lies, so that one really shouldn't count.

The power down was 36 hours, and nobody of any consequence claimed that it was used to plant bombs. It was merely an unprecedented event that occurred several days before 9/11. You don't need to be an expert problem solver to realize that there just might be a connection, and at the very least, it's worth investigating.

The details were forwarded (repeatedly) to the Port Authority, the 9/11 Commission, and eventually shared publicly.

deep
10th April 2008, 05:13 AM
not in on it, just sheep who blindly follow orders without thinking or questioning

thats what any non-truther really is, right? a sheep?


Only if you continue to assume that the regulars over at the LC forum represent the average "truther" (with a very low standard deviation).

In reality, 99.9% of the name-calling I see is being done by debunkers on this forum. For example, feel free to look through any of my previous posts -- I doubt you'll be able to find more than one or two instances (if any) where I express any hostility whatsoever. The same can be said for almost every other "9/11 truth seeker" I've seen post at JREF.

MarkyX
10th April 2008, 05:19 AM
Molten Steel = Controlled demolition.

Can't even cite one example or any demolition company using "thermite bombs". It's like the 9/11 deniers have given up and decided to make their own rules.

"That's not how gravity works!"

MikeW
10th April 2008, 05:25 AM
The power down was 36 hours, and nobody of any consequence claimed that it was used to plant bombs.
David Ray Griffin has referred to the power down, amongst other things, after making this comment:

The suggestion that explosives might have been used raises the question of how anyone wanting to place explosives in the towers could have gotten through the security checks.
http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html

Webster Tarpley mentioned the power down in a section of his "9/11 Synthetic Terror" called "OPPORTUNITIES FOR TAMPERING".

Or do they not count?

Dave Rogers
10th April 2008, 06:19 AM
David Ray Griffin has referred to the power down, amongst other things, after making this comment:

Webster Tarpley mentioned the power down in a section of his "9/11 Synthetic Terror" called "OPPORTUNITIES FOR TAMPERING".

Or do they not count?

Well, he did say "nobody of any consequence". Arguably, that rules out the entire truth movement.

Dave

funk de fino
10th April 2008, 06:24 AM
Sorry, I don't think the OP was looking for any made up lies, so that one really shouldn't count.

The power down was 36 hours, and nobody of any consequence claimed that it was used to plant bombs. It was merely an unprecedented event that occurred several days before 9/11. You don't need to be an expert problem solver to realize that there just might be a connection, and at the very least, it's worth investigating.

The details were forwarded (repeatedly) to the Port Authority, the 9/11 Commission, and eventually shared publicly.

You are wrong. Retract or you are spreading lies.

realitybites
10th April 2008, 06:35 AM
Sorry, I don't think the OP was looking for any made up lies, so that one really shouldn't count.

The power down was 36 hours, and nobody of any consequence claimed that it was used to plant bombs. It was merely an unprecedented event that occurred several days before 9/11. You don't need to be an expert problem solver to realize that there just might be a connection, and at the very least, it's worth investigating.

The details were forwarded (repeatedly) to the Port Authority, the 9/11 Commission, and eventually shared publicly.

12 hours, 36 hours.... Still not enough time to plant explosives in one of the buildings, let alone all 3. Many in the truth movement HAVE brought this up when asked how and when the buildings were rigged, so yes... it is connected to the demolition conspiracy theory. It's not our fault not a one of them thought it through.

And you're on something if you think building power-downs are "unprecedented events".

CHF
10th April 2008, 06:36 AM
The power down was 36 hours, and nobody of any consequence claimed that it was used to plant bombs.

Complete rubbish. Every twoofer who brings it up either claims or implies that the time was used to plant bombs.

For example:

It was merely an unprecedented event that occurred several days before 9/11. You don't need to be an expert problem solver to realize that there just might be a connection, and at the very least, it's worth investigating.

And what might that connection have been, Deep44? Do tell.

ElMondoHummus
10th April 2008, 07:41 AM
christophera must be included. the sheer lunacy of the realistice concrete core thread demands so. Who can forget the time-shifting mohawks and the phantom PBS doc?

classic.

BV

Waitaminute... if we're going to invoke Christophera, how can we leave out the whole "explosives were installed in the towers during construction" claim?

Anyone got a link to that post? I'm not finding it in a quick search, and I gotta go (shouldn't post when I need to be somewhere... :o).

sts60
10th April 2008, 07:46 AM
Most absurd, in no particular order:
1. BBC being pre-informed of WTC7 collapse having happened.
2. Broadcast of WTC 7 countdown.
3. Two separate attacks on Pentagon, five minutes apart, with flyover of jetliner in broad daylight (this beats out the garden-variety nuttiness of drone/missile + airliner flyover in broad daylight claim).

Most offensive:
1. The "went golfing" claim.
2. That firefighters in NYC or at Pentagon were in on it. I have a personal stake in this one, knowing some of the guys who responded to the Pentagon that day.
2a. The slimy way of insinuating that FDNY was in on WTC 7 by the JAQing "but how many were told of the collapse hazard?" routine. That's even more contemptible than the accusation itself in its mealy-mouthed disingenuity. You know what I'm talking about.

To be fair, here are the CT scenarios that I find conceivable, though I do not actually believe these happened given the absence of any evidence for them:
1. Secondary bombs set off in WTC 1 and/or 2. Either man-portable antipersonnel devices or vehicle bombs.
2. Flight 93 being shot down by a SAM. Note that this would not contradict the heroic actions of the passengers who fought back against the hijackers. In fact, it's not really a CT at all; if it had been done, say from the Camp David area, not talking about it would simply be an operational security measure.

Zorglub
10th April 2008, 08:01 AM
Without a doubt the claim that someone planted bombs in the Pentagon and set them of a millisecond before the plane hit the building. Can´t remember who that was who made that claim though.

SkepticGuy
10th April 2008, 08:11 AM
I'm going to suggest not so much a singular claim, but a endemic tactic that has become the norm within all groups appending "truth" to their name.

It's the perpetual game of One-Upmanship that has become "the truth movement."

We have dozens (if not more) of "9/11 truth" factions of varying flavors and varieties all competing for attention and fighting amongst themselves. The result is an ever-increasing litany of contrivances designed to "out-do" competing groups, increase the exposure of a group, or add to the bottom line of other more organized groups.

Nearly everything mentioned in this thread is a result of truth movement one-upmanship.

gumboot
10th April 2008, 08:23 AM
I'm going to suggest not so much a singular claim, but a endemic tactic that has become the norm within all groups appending "truth" to their name.

It's the perpetual game of One-Upmanship that has become "the truth movement."

We have dozens (if not more) of "9/11 truth" factions of varying flavors and varieties all competing for attention and fighting amongst themselves. The result is an ever-increasing litany of contrivances designed to "out-do" competing groups, increase the exposure of a group, or add to the bottom line of other more organized groups.

Nearly everything mentioned in this thread is a result of truth movement one-upmanship.


I think it's more accurate to describe it as "onedownmanship"

Pookster
10th April 2008, 08:28 AM
I'm going to suggest not so much a singular claim, but a endemic tactic that has become the norm within all groups appending "truth" to their name.

It's the perpetual game of One-Upmanship that has become "the truth movement."

We have dozens (if not more) of "9/11 truth" factions of varying flavors and varieties all competing for attention and fighting amongst themselves. The result is an ever-increasing litany of contrivances designed to "out-do" competing groups, increase the exposure of a group, or add to the bottom line of other more organized groups.

Nearly everything mentioned in this thread is a result of truth movement one-upmanship.

I agree. Considering the general absence of serious scholarship, the spotlight seems to be more of a motivating factor for most "9/11 truth" factions than anything else.

cludgie
10th April 2008, 10:57 AM
The '4000 Jews getting a secret tip-off and not turning up for work' one was quite special.

Jonnyclueless
10th April 2008, 11:29 AM
I'm sorry but I think the all time best one was the whole typing the plane serial numbers (or whatever you want to call them) into MS word and switching to the wing dings font to see symbols of planes hitting two buildings.

I wonder how long some idiot spent in wing dings trying to come up with the best sequence to make that one up. I guess the plane being made before the font also implicated Microsoft as well as boeing eh?

Dr Adequate
10th April 2008, 12:33 PM
I like the way Truthers think that all the other Truthers who disagree with them about what the Truth is are "disinfo" rather than, say, a bunch of idiots.

sts60
10th April 2008, 12:45 PM
Wait a minute... What if they're all disinformation agents, trying to make the "Truth movement" look bad? Now that would be funny.

Jonnyclueless
10th April 2008, 12:54 PM
I like the way Truthers think that all the other Truthers who disagree with them about what the Truth is are "disinfo" rather than, say, a bunch of idiots.

I wasn't aware there was a distinction until now.

realitybites
10th April 2008, 01:34 PM
As long as we're talking about "absurd accusations", I'm gonna have to throw in Spooked911's line of "questioning" regarding the FDNY's non-use of airbags to save those jumping/falling from the towers.

A cheap shot to reference a Stundie, but hey...

It won for a reason.

bonavada
10th April 2008, 02:59 PM
Waitaminute... if we're going to invoke Christophera, how can we leave out the whole "explosives were installed in the towers during construction" claim?
Anyone got a link to that post? I'm not finding it in a quick search, and I gotta go (shouldn't post when I need to be somewhere... :o).

It's all HERE (http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html) seems ole chris is still as obsessed as ever.

There's no chance of me risking the wrath of this forum by resurrecting the realistice leviathon......LET THE MONSTER SLEEP.

BV

Par
10th April 2008, 03:11 PM
Personally, I’ve always thought that the most laughable claim is the one which states that Flight 77’s flight data recorder disproves the only event that could account for its very existence. It represents one of the few assertions which – as well as being as absurd as all of the others – is actually mathematically impossible.

Dave Rogers
11th April 2008, 02:14 AM
I'm sorry but I think the all time best one was the whole typing the plane serial numbers (or whatever you want to call them) into MS word and switching to the wing dings font to see symbols of planes hitting two buildings.

It would have been slightly less ridiculous if it hadn't involved a completely bogus set of serial numbers.

Dave

eeyore1954
11th April 2008, 05:04 AM
Sorry, I don't think the OP was looking for any made up lies, so that one really shouldn't count.

The power down was 36 hours, and nobody of any consequence claimed that it was used to plant bombs. It was merely an unprecedented event that occurred several days before 9/11. You don't need to be an expert problem solver to realize that there just might be a connection, and at the very least, it's worth investigating.

The details were forwarded (repeatedly) to the Port Authority, the 9/11 Commission, and eventually shared publicly.

When did anyone other than Forbes "confirm" the power down?

eeyore1954
11th April 2008, 05:14 AM
Didn't the first Loose Change movie claim that one or more of the planes had been spotted in an airport after 9/11. That was certainly one of the more absurd claims.

Dylan laughing about Bernard Brown and his son was one of the lowest comments ever to come out of the truth movement.