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SpaceMonkeyZero
12th April 2008, 05:22 AM
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080411/D8VVUAHG0.html
NEW YORK (AP) - There's another side to Alicia Keys: conspiracy theorist. The Grammy-winning singer-songwriter tells Blender magazine: "'Gangsta rap' was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other. 'Gangsta rap' didn't exist."
Keys, 27, said she's read several Black Panther autobiographies and wears a gold AK-47 pendant around her neck "to symbolize strength, power and killing 'em dead," according to an interview in the magazine's May issue, on newsstands Tuesday.
Another of her theories: That the bicoastal feud between slain rappers Tupac Shakur and Notorious B.I.G. was fueled "by the government and the media, to stop another great black leader from existing."
Keys' AK-47 jewelry came as a surprise to her mother, who is quoted as telling Blender: "She wears what? That doesn't sound like Alicia." Keys' publicist, Theola Borden, said Keys was on vacation and unavailable for comment.
Though she's known for her romantic tunes, she told Blender that she wants to write more political songs. If black leaders such as the late Black Panther Huey Newton "had the outlets our musicians have today, it'd be global. I have to figure out a way to do it myself," she said.
The multiplatinum songstress behind the hits "Fallin'" and "No One" most recently had success with her latest CD, "As I Am," which sold millions.
This isn't too far off from the CT that the "Jews" in the record business want to use blacks to get money, so I'm sure if pressed, she'd give an earful of anti-semitism in regards to her theory on who's behind this "fake" gangsta rap.
I'm willing to bet she believes the whole crack cocaine CIA conspiracy theory as well. Ah well, victim mentality. Always blame some shadowy outsider rather than take a hard look at yourself.
Niobe
12th April 2008, 05:31 AM
I'm willing to bet she believes the whole crack cocaine CIA conspiracy theory as well.
Wait, are you telling me the government didn't administer AIDS?
Sporanox
12th April 2008, 07:10 AM
Hold on, could somebody please explain the AIDS crack conspiracy to me? Last I heard it was the CIA funding Nicaraguans, or at least turning a blind eye...
defaultdotxbe
12th April 2008, 07:45 AM
Hold on, could somebody please explain the AIDS crack conspiracy to me? Last I heard it was the CIA funding Nicaraguans, or at least turning a blind eye...
well the crack cocaine conspiracy is that the US government invented crack to get black people addicted and dead
the aids conspiracy (which is separate from the crack conspiracy) is that the US government engineered aids to kill black people
jhunter1163
12th April 2008, 08:14 AM
Wait a minute. Jesse Jackson can do his thing but rappers have to be shot? Sounds like someone has a seriously misguided concept of what a leader is. Of course, celebrities has always overestimated their own importance in society. They don't realize they're just a coffee break thing.
Good Lt
12th April 2008, 09:23 AM
She must be a member of Obama's church.
Drudgewire
12th April 2008, 10:32 AM
Another of her theories: That the bicoastal feud between slain rappers Tupac Shakur and Notorious B.I.G. was fueled "by the government and the media, to stop another great black leader from existing."
http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/whaa.gif
LastChild
12th April 2008, 11:08 AM
Gangsta rap makes a lot of money. Was that part of the conspiracy or just an added bonus?
CHF
12th April 2008, 11:15 AM
"'Gangsta rap' was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other. 'Gangsta rap' didn't exist."
So gangsta rap was a ploy created by gangstas to give gangstas an excuse to kill other gangstas?
Keys, 27, said she's read several Black Panther autobiographies and wears a gold AK-47 pendant around her neck "to symbolize strength, power and killing 'em dead,"
Part of the problem, are we Alicia?
That the bicoastal feud between slain rappers Tupac Shakur and Notorious B.I.G. was fueled "by the government and the media, to stop another great black leader from existing."
That's quite the insult to the black community, IMO. A couple of street thugs with record deals are somehow "great black leaders?" Sheesh!
steve s
12th April 2008, 12:11 PM
well the crack cocaine conspiracy is that the US government invented crack to get black people addicted and dead
Great idea. Let's get them addicted to crack so that they'll have to resort to a life of crime to feed their addiction which will inevitably result in the death and injury of thousands of innocent civilians. BRILLIANT!
Steve S.
Totovader
12th April 2008, 12:24 PM
Doesn't this conspiracy completely contradict the conspiracy that "Jew" record label owners promote gangsta rap to keep the "black culture" down?
bynmdsue
12th April 2008, 12:44 PM
"I was thinkin' 'bout Alicia Keys, couldn't keep from crying
When she was born in Hell's Kitchen, I was living down the line
I'm wondering where in the world Alisha Keys could be
I been looking for her even clear through Tennessee"
Bob Dylan - Thunder On The Mountain
Turns out she's down in WooTown,Bob.
Pardalis
12th April 2008, 12:49 PM
Ah well, victim mentality.
Yeah, ironically she's doing pretty well for herself, seems her race wasn't an incumbrance to her success.
defaultdotxbe
12th April 2008, 01:20 PM
Doesn't this conspiracy completely contradict the conspiracy that "Jew" record label owners promote gangsta rap to keep the "black culture" down?
no, in fact it confirms it
That the bicoastal feud between slain rappers Tupac Shakur and Notorious B.I.G. was fueled "by the [zionist] government and the [jew-controlled] media, to [keep black culture down by] stop[ping] another great black leader from existing."
Sporanox
12th April 2008, 01:43 PM
well the crack cocaine conspiracy is that the US government invented crack to get black people addicted and dead
the aids conspiracy (which is separate from the crack conspiracy) is that the US government engineered aids to kill black people
I heard about the AIDS conspiracy, which is of course total bunk. The crack conspiracy I'm talking about, however, is the one that says the CIA enabled Nicaraguan Contras who happened to be crack dealers in the U.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_and_Contras_cocaine_trafficking_in_the_US
I haven't done much sorting out on this one, but it does seem to be accurate that Contras were dealing crack with U.S. money (tentatively)...one of the burning questions would be the degree of CIA complicity.
And yeah, I know that wikipedia is a baseless source of information, but the sources I've checked out seem to corroborate...so far...
defaultdotxbe
12th April 2008, 01:53 PM
I heard about the AIDS conspiracy, which is of course total bunk. The crack conspiracy I'm talking about, however, is the one that says the CIA enabled Nicaraguan Contras who happened to be crack dealers in the U.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_and_Contras_cocaine_trafficking_in_the_US
I haven't done much sorting out on this one, but it does seem to be accurate that Contras were dealing crack with U.S. money (tentatively)...one of the burning questions would be the degree of CIA complicity.
And yeah, I know that wikipedia is a baseless source of information, but the sources I've checked out seem to corroborate...so far...
yeah, thats a different conspiracy (utilising cocaine, not crack cocaine)
although you could certainly link the 2 conspiracy theories, lol
Sporanox
12th April 2008, 01:59 PM
yeah, thats a different conspiracy (utilising cocaine, not crack cocaine)
although you could certainly link the 2 conspiracy theories, lol
Oops. Oh well...what do you make of the validity of this one? I hear it cited a lot to back up the good Rev. Wright's allegation that "America gives them the drugs...," often in a tone that seems to suggest he is somehow justified for spouting this obscene rhetoric.
defaultdotxbe
12th April 2008, 02:21 PM
Oops. Oh well...what do you make of the validity of this one? I hear it cited a lot to back up the good Rev. Wright's allegation that "America gives them the drugs...," often in a tone that seems to suggest he is somehow justified for spouting this obscene rhetoric.
ive never looked into it much myself, but it just seems like another one of the (many) instances where "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" logic has come back to bite us in the butt
but then again there are conspiracy theories attached to all the other instances of it too, lol
johnny karate
12th April 2008, 02:42 PM
We should be able to fine celebrities every time they bother us with their stupidity.
mortimer
12th April 2008, 02:44 PM
The real Alicia Keys conspiracy is that she isn't in my bedroom right now.
Pardalis
12th April 2008, 04:11 PM
The real Alicia Keys conspiracy is that she isn't in my bedroom right now.
I guess that would be my fault...
gumboot
13th April 2008, 08:14 AM
Anyone else pick up the irony of someone claiming that gangster rap culture was created to get black people to kill each other, whilst wearing an AK-47 pendant?
I second johnny karate's motion to fine celebrities.
Sporanox
13th April 2008, 01:20 PM
Anyone else pick up the irony of someone claiming that gangster rap culture was created to get black people to kill each other, whilst wearing an AK-47 pendant?
I second johnny karate's motion to fine celebrities.
I wonder what she thinks of the "don't snitch" rapper meme...? :confused:
Sporanox
13th April 2008, 01:21 PM
Oh yeah, another thing wrong is her beliefs naturally lead to the conclusion that gangsta rap was invented by stodgy old white guys in suits.
gc051360
13th April 2008, 01:29 PM
She really said that stuff?
If she did, it's all very misguided.
TC329
13th April 2008, 01:46 PM
So gangsta rap was a ploy created by gangstas to give gangstas an excuse to kill other gangstas?
No it was created by rich racist white supremacist, financed and glorified in hope of creating a sub culture that would destroy the black community. Promoting drug dealers, murderers, thieves, and gang members as Idols and women as low life trash, hookers, and whores.
Not really too far of a conclusion to come to judging it's long term effect upon black culture.
Is there anyone in this forum that isn't white or doesn't associate exclusively with white people?
Jonnyclueless
13th April 2008, 01:48 PM
TC can you please give us the name(s) of this rich white supremacist?
Jonnyclueless
13th April 2008, 01:50 PM
And how do we know that rich racist black supremacists didn't create the rich racist white supremacists to create the gangs and drugs dealers, etc so they could then blame the whites?
gc051360
13th April 2008, 01:51 PM
No it was created by rich racist white supremacist, financed and glorified in hope of creating a sub culture that would destroy the black community.
Considering that sub culture existed before gangsta rap.....
And also, considering that a lot of gangsta rap was purchased by white kids in the suburbs.....I don't see your point.
Not really too far of a conclusion to come to judging it's long term effect upon black culture.
Yes it is. Because, you'd still be confusing cause and effect. And you still have no evidence of a causal relationship. How would you prove that gangsta rap caused gangstas?
eta: I do find this odd, because usually being opposed to gangsta rap is what gets you called racist.
Is there anyone in this forum that isn't white or doesn't associate exclusively with white people?
I am white. I do not associate exclusively with white people.
Sporanox
13th April 2008, 01:56 PM
No it was created by rich racist white supremacist, financed and glorified in hope of creating a sub culture that would destroy the black community. Promoting drug dealers, murderers, thieves, and gang members as Idols and women as low life trash, hookers, and whores.
1) The rich white aristocracy created gangsta rap? Do you know how out of touch that sounds?
2) The rappers who are promoting this just went along with the rich white aristocracy?
Not really too far of a conclusion to come to judging it's long term effect upon black culture.
Oh, I get it. Everything bad, no matter how irrelevant, must be blamed on rich white people. Huh.
Is there anyone in this forum that isn't white or doesn't associate exclusively with white people?
Why on earth would you ask rhetorical questions set up for epic failure? Isn't that contradicting the basic premise of a rhetorical question?
By the way - I'm not white, and I don't exclusively associate with white people. In case you wrongly assumed I did.
Cl1mh4224rd
13th April 2008, 02:00 PM
Can anyone here arrange a meeting between the top rappers and TC329? I'm sure they'd be very interested in a dissertation about how their genre of music was created by whitey to destroy the black man, and how said rappers have just been to stupid to notice it...
defaultdotxbe
13th April 2008, 02:02 PM
No it was created by rich racist white supremacist, financed and glorified in hope of creating a sub culture that would destroy the black community. Promoting drug dealers, murderers, thieves, and gang members as Idols and women as low life trash, hookers, and whores.
Not really too far of a conclusion to come to judging it's long term effect upon black culture.
Is there anyone in this forum that isn't white or doesn't associate exclusively with white people?
so because its harmful to the black community it must have been invented by a rich white racist?
TC329
13th April 2008, 02:04 PM
And also, considering that a lot of gangsta rap was purchased by white kids in the suburbs.....I don't see your point.
I didn't say I believed it was some racist plot.
Personally I think it was designed and marketed and glorified to destroy the lower class in America and I know poverty doesn't discriminate. It was also a statistical fact that "white kids in the suburbs" was the largest demographic for marketing music at that time because that was the largest consumer base.
defaultdotxbe
13th April 2008, 02:08 PM
I didn't say I believed it was some racist plot.
eh?
No it was created by rich racist white supremacist, financed and glorified in hope of creating a sub culture that would destroy the black community.
Sporanox
13th April 2008, 02:08 PM
I didn't say I believed it was some racist plot.
Really.
No it was created by rich racist white supremacist, financed and glorified in hope of creating a sub culture that would destroy the black community.
Did you really expect we would not scroll back five posts or so to where you totally contradicted yourself? Or did you think our attention span was five minutes at maximum?
Personally I think it was designed and marketed and glorified to destroy the lower class in America and I know poverty doesn't discriminate. It was also a statistical fact that "white kids in the suburbs" was the largest demographic for marketing music at that time because that was the largest consumer base.
Yes, the rappers would just love to hear this. For crying out loud, 50 Cent and many others like him CAME from these poverty-stricken communities you describe.
Cl1mh4224rd
13th April 2008, 02:15 PM
I didn't say I believed it was some racist plot.
What's this?
No it was created by rich racist white supremacist, financed and glorified in hope of creating a sub culture that would destroy the black community.
Edit: Oh, right... You don't "believe", you know, is that it?
Mr.D
13th April 2008, 03:11 PM
Is there anyone in this forum that isn't white or doesn't associate exclusively with white people?
Don't you get tired of being wrong all the time?
gc051360
13th April 2008, 03:33 PM
Personally I think it was designed and marketed and glorified to destroy the lower class in America and I know poverty doesn't discriminate
Why do you think that? What evidence do you have? Do you know the history of rap music, where it started, how trends develop, etc??
No. With gangster rap, or any other kind of new musical trend...it starts on the street. In the clubs, etc. People start playing the music. It attracts crowds. It attracts attention. People in the music industry, see a buzz being created in a local "scene" and sign a few bands. Then they bleed that trend dry, and then they can move onto the next trend.
It was also a statistical fact that "white kids in the suburbs" was the largest demographic for marketing music at that time because that was the largest consumer base
So, doesn't your theory fail? If it's being mostly marketed towards the suburbs...how can it be a plot to hold anyone back? How did it hold anyone back?
How does Ice-T singing about killing cops, lead to a black guy in the inner city, walking out on his kids? How does rap lead to gang activity? Most of the people gangsta rapping...actually were gangsters. Obviously this sub culture existed prior to the rapping, or else they'd have nothing to rap about.
TC329
13th April 2008, 03:37 PM
eh?
I was correcting CHF's misrepresentation of the belief.
And by "created" I mean wrapped up, marketed, promoted, and made accessible to every household in American via music television and radio.
And I'm sure quite a few were created just like Milli Vanilli and Backstreet Boys and other corporately created music. If you are so naive of how the music industry functions then perhaps you should read up on it and find out how the majority of what is played in heavy rotation and declared "popular" comes from a very small group of people.
You guys don't see any bigger pictures at this place.
We need to fill prisons with people smoking crack and selling it on the corner, not the people bringing it into the country in large quantities living lavish lifestyles in their fancy mansions.
We need to take away people's gun rights, not stop making firearms and ammunition.
No one is going to find a solution for any problems lurking around the mentality that infects this forum.
gc051360
13th April 2008, 03:43 PM
And by "created" I mean wrapped up, marketed, promoted, and made accessible to every household in American via music television and radio.
I don't really buy that.
And I'm sure quite a few were created just like Milli Vanilli and Backstreet Boys and other corporately created music.
So what?
You guys don't see any bigger pictures at this place.
Enlighten us.
You claimed that gangsta rap was created to "keep people down" How does it do that? How does it destroy the lower class?
We need to fill prisons with people smoking crack and selling it on the corner, not the people bringing it into the country in large quantities living lavish lifestyles in their fancy mansions.
So....gangster rap is responsible for the war on drugs?
We need to take away people's gun rights, not stop making firearms and ammunition.
What does this have to do with anything? I'd advise you to stop though. If you delve into more topics, you will embarrass yourself further.
No one is going to find a solution for any problems lurking around the mentality that infects this forum.
What mentality? The mentality that needs wild accusations backed up by facts?
-you claimed that gangster rap is a tool to keep people down. Why do you believe that?
CHF
13th April 2008, 04:04 PM
No it was created by rich racist white supremacist, financed and glorified in hope of creating a sub culture that would destroy the black community. Promoting drug dealers, murderers, thieves, and gang members as Idols and women as low life trash, hookers, and whores.
Which racist white supremacist created gangsta rap? Names please.
And what's your theory on why so many inner-city blacks embrace such a destructive mentality? Are they just too dumb to see through the white man's plot?
Sporanox
13th April 2008, 10:52 PM
And I'm sure quite a few were created just like Milli Vanilli and Backstreet Boys and other corporately created music. If you are so naive of how the music industry functions then perhaps you should read up on it and find out how the majority of what is played in heavy rotation and declared "popular" comes from a very small group of people.
So people look at the top 50 charts, which are controlled by corporations, then buy a lot of the music, thus placing the music in the top 50...? Vicious cycle there.
Seriously, people won't listen to music if they don't like it. Corporations don't control everyone.
And by "created" I mean wrapped up, marketed, promoted, and made accessible to every household in American via music television and radio.
I'm sure the founders of hip hop would love to back up your insinuation that hip hop was never popular before the corporate overlords packaged it. Or that black people, both the rappers and those who listen to the music, would be too stupid to see through the plot.
You apparently have no other way to see any cultural trend other than factoring in a controlling oligarchy of sorts. This is actually what happened:
No. With gangster rap, or any other kind of new musical trend...it starts on the street. In the clubs, etc. People start playing the music. It attracts crowds. It attracts attention. People in the music industry, see a buzz being created in a local "scene" and sign a few bands. Then they bleed that trend dry, and then they can move onto the next trend.
defaultdotxbe
14th April 2008, 05:45 AM
I was correcting CHF's misrepresentation of the belief.
And by "created" I mean wrapped up, marketed, promoted, and made accessible to every household in American via music television and radio.
And I'm sure quite a few were created just like Milli Vanilli and Backstreet Boys and other corporately created music. If you are so naive of how the music industry functions then perhaps you should read up on it and find out how the majority of what is played in heavy rotation and declared "popular" comes from a very small group of people.
You guys don't see any bigger pictures at this place.
We need to fill prisons with people smoking crack and selling it on the corner, not the people bringing it into the country in large quantities living lavish lifestyles in their fancy mansions.
We need to take away people's gun rights, not stop making firearms and ammunition.
No one is going to find a solution for any problems lurking around the mentality that infects this forum.
wow, you missed my point to an extent which i didnt think was possible
you said:
I didn't say I believed it was some racist plot.
im wondering how this:
No it was created by rich racist white supremacist, financed and glorified in hope of creating a sub culture that would destroy the black community.
does not constitute a racist plot
Drudgewire
14th April 2008, 06:42 AM
Which racist white supremacist created gangsta rap? Names please.
Well, there is Jerry Heller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Heller), but I think he's a little too Jewish for most white supremist groups.
Pardalis
14th April 2008, 07:08 AM
No one is going to find a solution for any problems lurking around the mentality that infects this forum.
Says the no-planer.
dudalb
14th April 2008, 12:55 PM
I am sure Snoop Doggy Dog would be happy to know he is just a Tool Of The Man.
Niobe
14th April 2008, 02:04 PM
Yeah, ironically she's doing pretty well for herself, seems her race wasn't an incumbrance to her success.
It's even more stupid when you consider her mother is white and raised her on her own.
aggle-rithm
14th April 2008, 02:16 PM
Personally I think it was designed and marketed and glorified to destroy the lower class in America and I know poverty doesn't discriminate.
"Destroy the lower class" in America? What does THAT mean?
Take away all their power and political influence? Ruin their credit rating? Bar them from being named CEO's of big companies?
Stuff like that?
dudalb
14th April 2008, 02:33 PM
"Destroy the lower class" in America? What does THAT mean?
Take away all their power and political influence? Ruin their credit rating? Bar them from being named CEO's of big companies?
Stuff like that?
Get them to waste their money on Crappy Music?
Drudgewire
14th April 2008, 02:35 PM
Get them to waste their money on Crappy Music?
Aint nothin' to it, gangsta rap made me do it. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=102627&highlight=gangsta) http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/snoop.gif
Donal
14th April 2008, 02:49 PM
"Destroy the lower class" in America? What does THAT mean?
Take away all their power and political influence? Ruin their credit rating? Bar them from being named CEO's of big companies?
Stuff like that?
see how effective a strategy it is?
By the way, am I the only one that finds it messed up that a couple of crack dealing gang bangers with some musical talent, that helped make some old rich white dudes richer, have been referred to as "great leaders"?
Nim Chimpsky
14th April 2008, 02:50 PM
It's even more stupid when you consider her mother is white and raised her on her own.
She has a black father who is Jamaican and a white mother of Irish, Scottish and Italian heritage. Parents never married and dad skipped out when she was 2. As Niobe wrote, mom raised her in Hell's Kitchen and realized she had great musical potential.
She graduated at age 16 as the Valedictorian of Manhattan's Professional Performance Arts School and gets accepted to Columbia. She leaves to pursue her musical career.
If you have ever heard her early interviews, she tries to act the part of "gangsta" street thug, and tried to play up her "rough" upbringing to try to gain street cred.....and acceptance from her black audience.
She's smart, well educated and obviously very savvy.
If you think for one minute that she actually believes this crap, methinks you a bit naive.
This is marketing and packaging. The real conspiracy is that the record execs and she sit around and think up ways to lie to gullible record buyers from the "streets" who will eat this stuff up.
Sporanox
14th April 2008, 04:15 PM
She has a black father who is Jamaican and a white mother of Irish, Scottish and Italian heritage. Parents never married and dad skipped out when she was 2. As Niobe wrote, mom raised her in Hell's Kitchen and realized she had great musical potential.
She graduated at age 16 as the Valedictorian of Manhattan's Professional Performance Arts School and gets accepted to Columbia. She leaves to pursue her musical career.
If you have ever heard her early interviews, she tries to act the part of "gangsta" street thug, and tried to play up her "rough" upbringing to try to gain street cred.....and acceptance from her black audience.
She's smart, well educated and obviously very savvy.
If you think for one minute that she actually believes this crap, methinks you a bit naive.
This is marketing and packaging. The real conspiracy is that the record execs and she sit around and think up ways to lie to gullible record buyers from the "streets" who will eat this stuff up.
Yes, that would indeed make her a very smart, albeit manipulative, soulless liar. :mad:
SpitfireIX
14th April 2008, 04:50 PM
She has a black father who is Jamaican and a white mother of Irish, Scottish and Italian heritage. Parents never married and dad skipped out when she was 2. As Niobe wrote, mom raised her in Hell's Kitchen and realized she had great musical potential.
She graduated at age 16 as the Valedictorian of Manhattan's Professional Performance Arts School and gets accepted to Columbia. She leaves to pursue her musical career.
If you have ever heard her early interviews, she tries to act the part of "gangsta" street thug, and tried to play up her "rough" upbringing to try to gain street cred.....and acceptance from her black audience.
She's smart, well educated and obviously very savvy.
If you think for one minute that she actually believes this crap, methinks you a bit naive.
This is marketing and packaging. The real conspiracy is that the record execs and she sit around and think up ways to lie to gullible record buyers from the "streets" who will eat this stuff up.
Hmmmmm. This life story sounds oddly familiar . . .
Jonnyclueless
14th April 2008, 05:48 PM
Rappers Against Violence
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defaultdotxbe
14th April 2008, 05:56 PM
Yes, that would indeed make her a very smart, albeit manipulative, soulless liar. :mad:
just like those rich white people who market gangsta rap to black people to keep their culture down...
PhantomWolf
14th April 2008, 06:23 PM
Yes, that would indeed make her a very smart, albeit manipulative, soulless liar. :mad:
Perhaps she should try out for a career in politics...
Cl1mh4224rd
14th April 2008, 08:37 PM
No one is going to find a solution for any problems lurking around the mentality that infects this forum.
Says the no-planer.
...that lurks around this forum.
Sporanox
14th April 2008, 10:26 PM
Hmmmmm. This life story sounds oddly familiar . . .
Perhaps similar to the rumors that Jessica Simpson and Paris Hilton are amplifying their idiocy in exchange for notoriety?
Liberman
15th April 2008, 04:16 AM
Gangsta rap makes a lot of money. Was that part of the conspiracy or just an added bonus?
Maybe Ice Cube and DR Dre are really government agents who were locked in a room and told to come up with a new genre of Rap that would people kill each other. It looks like they managed it pretty well.
moon1969
15th April 2008, 05:49 AM
Elvis is still alive? No way. I wonder if she will say that Kurt Cobain was killed by the CIA and a leprecon shot John Lennon?
Nim Chimpsky
15th April 2008, 08:17 AM
Yes, that would indeed make her a very smart, albeit manipulative, soulless liar. :mad:
Perhaps she should try out for a career in politics...
Perhaps similar to the rumors that Jessica Simpson and Paris Hilton are amplifying their idiocy in exchange for notoriety?
There are many varying degrees of lying. I would probably categorize her behavior, as well as JS and PH as marketing lies.
Is a realtor lying when they use "ad speak" to describe a house?
http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2006/11/04/breaking-down-real-estate-adspeak-funny-definitions-for-real-estate-jargon/
Large family room - large basement
Bedroom in basement - basement has a 1′ by 2′ window
Lots of storage space - basement too small to be called a family room
Partial mountain view - you can see the tip of Mt. Olympus if you climb the roof
Territorial view - good view of your neighbor’s bedroom window
To keep with the conspiracy forum theme, would you classify her behavior as conspiratorial? Is she really sitting around with Clive Davis (JOOOOOOOOOOOOO),[so we can include all the zionist CTers] and planning her image? Are they having her do and say things that may be slightly controversial just to keep her in the public eye? Is that lying or is that marketing?
I for one, was duped. I first heard her speak at the grammies years ago and was convinced that she was a dolt. I had heard that she was a "drop-out", and automatically assumed she was a HS drop-out.
I always recall the words of that wise sage, Mike Brady:
Caveat Emptor.
Beerina
15th April 2008, 09:11 AM
I heard about the AIDS conspiracy, which is of course total bunk. The crack conspiracy I'm talking about, however, is the one that says the CIA enabled Nicaraguan Contras who happened to be crack dealers in the U.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_and_Contras_cocaine_trafficking_in_the_US
I haven't done much sorting out on this one, but it does seem to be accurate that Contras were dealing crack with U.S. money (tentatively)...one of the burning questions would be the degree of CIA complicity.
And yeah, I know that wikipedia is a baseless source of information, but the sources I've checked out seem to corroborate...so far...
That's a different theory. There are two here:
1. Crack cocaine is used to keep black neighborhoods and people down.
2. Crack cocaine is imported and sold by the CIA so they can have millions of dollars to spend on programs not overseen by Congress.
I'm sure the second is fueled by the real scenario where Ollie North sold missles to Iran so they could funnel the profits to the Contras, in theory outside the control of Congress, who had declared no US money shall be used to aid them.
Matthew Best
15th April 2008, 10:28 AM
Apparently..... (http://perezhilton.com/2008-04-15-clearing-things-up)
Alicia thinks she was misconstrued in the article and she's like us to know….
- That she's a very positive person.
- Her only aim is to uplift people and spread love.
- She's not a conspiracy theorist.
- The government didn't create gangsta rap, just the term. And, she thinks they could have done more at the time to do something about the problems the rappers were talking about.
- She doesnt know who killed Biggie and 2pac, but she thinks the media sensationalized their deaths and their rivalry.
Matthew Best
15th April 2008, 10:33 AM
I have a hard time believing that "the government" came up with the term "gangsta rap".
Drudgewire
15th April 2008, 10:44 AM
Apparently..... (http://perezhilton.com/2008-04-15-clearing-things-up)
You can always tell who's still on the way up and whose 15 minutes ended long ago.
Current celebrities: "Wait, no... that's not what I said. I mean, I said it but it's certainly not what I meant. And do I believe it? No, that's crazy and hurtful and I'm a good person."
Past celebrities: Yeah, that's right. It's all a conspiracy. LOOK AT ME. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE TELL ME I STILL MATTER!"
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