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JamesB
13th April 2008, 03:02 PM
9 / 1 1 W A S A N I N S I D E J O B
ENGINEERED BY THE CORRUPT BUSH ADMINISTRATION/MILITARY INDUSTRIALIST COMPLEX
9/11= BASIS of: Deceiving the U.S. & world into believing there are terrorists
PRETENSE TO ENTER WAR to DOMINATE THE WORLD & SUBJUGATE THE PEOPLE
DEFENSE CONTRACTS - 1000 YEARS OF NATIONAL DEBT –into their pockets
the PATRIOT ACT has Destroyed the U.S. Constitution – Established Dictatorship & Corrupt Fascist Regime
President Eisenhower U.S. warned not to let the Military Industrialist Complex Take Over 1/17/61 farewell address).–It has!! Walter Cronkite said, “The Bush Administration is waging war on the U.S., and is the most corrupt government ever to exist, because it is conquering the U.S. & the world, subversively.” (7/4//04, TV, CBS News Sunday Morning,). JFK WARNED of a subversive conspiracy in government (to conquer the U.S. & world), whose actions & expenditures are not questioned, & dissenters are silenced.(Zeitgeist DVD)
*Karl Rove, Bush’s advisor, stated in his speech to the Republican National Convention 1/20/01, that THEY NEED & WILL HAVE A WAR, IN ORDER TO BE RE-ELECTED (Bush’s Brain, DVD). *Cheney, Wolfowitz, Marvin Bush, & other Bush Regime War Profiteers, wrote in their, 2000 document, “Rebuilding America’s Defenses, Project for a New American Century,” that THEY NEEDED A “CATASTROPHIC & CATALYZING EVENT LIKE A NEW PEARL HARBOR.”(http//new american century; or wikapedia). (In 1920, Hitler wrote, “ ACatastrophic event is needed to take rights away,” & wrote 12 steps to conquer the world(Holocaust Revisited), which are being followed by GW Bush, but with more technology , surveillance, & subversiveness. W’’s Grandfather Prescott Bush financed Hitler’s rise to power, for promises of subjugation of labor, & was convicted in a Senate hearing in 1942 of Aiding & Trading with the enemy.(Tarpley 2004; & I Paid Hitler by Fritz Thysen 1941), .

Scientific Evidence: Laws of Science cannot be refuted; thermodynamics, gravity, propulsion, interia.
The government 9/11 Commission was comprised of defense contractors who profited from 9/11,or were culpable or otherwise biased
The government 9/11 Commission reported that the reason the plane was not in the pictures of the PENTAGON, was because the plane entirely vaporized in the fire, but Einstein’s Theory Of Relativity proves that matter is neither created nor destroyed, & heavy solid metal elements do not vaporize on Earth (greater than 5,432 degrees has never been reached). -All of the residue from the steel, aluminum, & titanium, etc. should have been in the picture, unless the temp remained greater than 5,432 degrees until all molecules had floated away for the entire distance, which would have vaporized the Pentagon & surroundings, too, violating the Law of Thermodynamics. However, there were not even skid marks or any harm to the lawn.
The roof caved in, after pictures were taken of the original small hole, that was only 16’x16’x16’, & no plane was in the picture, & a 767 has a 120’wingspan, & is 5 stories tall. After the roof caved in, the hole was only 16’x16’x70.’ The hole was consistent with a bomb, or drone missile. Little debris was on the lawn, except wire rolls, wooden furniture, & books, which would have burned before the metal plane, if one were there, & was not plane debris. The Commission admitted that, but stated the whole plane burned up, including titanium engines, which could not have burned.
The Commission stated that the entire plane vaporized, but stated that body parts of passengers were found, returned to relatives, & passports of the hijackers were found in the rubble. How????
Expert Engineers in the Fields of Construction & Demolitions report that the way the WORLD TRADE TOWERS fell, could only have been done by Controlled Demolition, & not by planes or fire, as (fraudulently) described by the government 9/11 Commission Report. (Steven Jones of Brigham Young U.; Richard Gage,AE, Jeff King of MIT; David Ray Griffith, Judy Wood, Alex Jones):
(1) the towers fell at the speed of gravity 11 seconds, w no resistance from the floors below, in violation of the Law Of Gravity, but consistent w the speed of controlled demolition. Even 1/2 second resistance for each floor would have been 45 seconds.
(2) the Construction of the towers had outside steel girders, & 2 rounds of inside steel girders(47 4 ft wide), which an aluminum plane could not have passed through, especially not the wings, & if it did, the inside girders would still have remained, like a stereo record stacker, even as it fell. Pictures of the construction of the towers in 1970, prove that the Commission’s report that “the core was hollow” is not true.
(3) An aluminum plane could not have gone thru 9 feet of concrete & 4 rows of 4-ft-square steel girders, but a replacement plane of depleted uranium, engineered by the dept. of defense, could, or bombs, or digital videos could have faked it. All of the videos of planes hitting are different, & the plane is always dark grey, while the rest of the picture is bright sunlight with all details & colors clearly visible. A helicopter is flying backwards in one video, demonstrating poor mixing in the fake plane video over the real NY skyline video. The nose of the plane is shown coming out another side is shown in some videos, & some show no explosion with the plane entering the building as if the building were made of soft butter.
(4) Jet fuel only burns at 1700 degrees, & would have burned up in 15 seconds, & it takes 2,700 degrees to melt steel, so the Commission Report could not have been true, that the jet fuel melted the steel girders, causing them to bend & buckle. The commission stated that the burning desks, plastics & paper melted the steel, but they only burn at 450 degrees. Steel is not melted in stoves or pots or pans. A sealed blast furnace for 2 hours & bellows of oxygen are needed to melt steel. The towers fell after only about 45 minutes of fires. Molten steel was seen flowing from the towers before it crashed.
(5) Molten steel remained for 6 weeks after, which is consistent with bombs & controlled demolition, & not crushing collapse
(6) Fire Engineering experts report that fire has never brought down a skyscraper. Falling buildings topple, & lean, & are incomplete destructions. Fire burned in a tower in Madrid in 2002 for 19 hours, on all floors, but the steel frame remained.
(7) There are pictures of people standing in holes made by the planes, so the Commission report could not be true, that the jet fuel burned so hot, to melt the steel, & nothing could withstand it, & the girders buckled, & collapsed on the hollow core.
(8) The black boxes, some body parts, & passports of the hijackers were reported to have been found, although the fuel burned so hot that it burned up the entire plane & melted steel girders, the Commission reports, but not explain how???
(9) People in the towers reported explosions before the planes hit, & multi-explosions from floors below the plane hit. I have a film of bombs going off in the basement before the collapse. Smoke was seen at the bottom of the building before the crash.
(10) Squibs, an industry term for blasts flying out of the building below the level of the crash are seen in all films.
(11) Marvin Bush (brother) was head of security, & shut down security cameras 2 weeks before, & that is how long it would take to set the controlled demolition, & there were fire drills for two weeks before, which would have allowed the setting.
(12) The John Gotti, Jr. trial reported that the mafia was run out of a demolition company. They could have set the demolition, hired by Marvin Bush’s company, & paid for by the Pentagon to fulfill the “PNAC document*” clause that they “need a new Pearl Harbor in order to achieve world dominance & to reduce the world’s population to 500million.”(*Project for a New American Century,” written by Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Jeb Bush, GH Bush, Wm Kristol, et al).
(13) 6 of the 11 hijackers were found alive, in Arabia, Egypt, & Germany.
(14) Most pieces were the size to fit on a truck, as in demolition. The ends of most of the girders were cut smooth, & at an angle, as in controlled demolition to make the girder fall in the desired direction. Thermate & Thermite, controlled demolition explosives, cut thru steel like butter, & at such angles.
(15) The video of Tower 1 crashing shows the antenna at the top, descending into the cloud of dust, before the bottom of the building begins to descend, meaning that the top of tower 1 was destroyed before the bottom, & the top did not tamp down the bottom of the building. –but, even if it did, then what destroyed the top of the building? .
(16) BUILDING 7 came down, controlled demolition fashion, also, & no plane hit it!,--& there were only small fires on 2 floors.
(17) Larry Silverstien, lease holder of the WTC, was filmed saying, “We decided to Pull It.”(Zeitgiest DVD) “Pull it” is an industry term for setting off controlled demolition. After being confronted, he admitted that it was controlled demolition in building 7, --note that it would have taken over a week to set controlled demolition in that 47 story building. That is evidence that controlled demolition was, also, set in the 2 towers.
(18) The World Trade Centers were built in 1970-71, as an experimental controlled environment, with no windows. In 2001,the ventilators were old, & the vent ducts were filthy & clogged with mold, which made the towers unfit for breathing, & the situation was unfixable. Also, all steel beams in the building, frame & otherwise were covered with asbestos, & was un-removable. There were millions of dollars in law suits for lung cancer, mesothelioma, leukemia, etc., & fines from the city & agencies. The towers were going to have to come down by controlled demolition, anyway, at a cost of millions. Just a couple of weeks before 9/11, Larry Silverstein took out billions of dollars of insurance, with double indemnity clauses for terrorist attacks. He demanded & received the double indemnity for each of the 3 buildings as a separate attack!! .
(19) Of the 2,988 MURDERED in this fraudulent, evil, nefarious conspiracy, 287 were Firemen, & 67 Cops. Mayor Rudi Guilliani stated on camera that he had been warned to get out of the towers, that they were going to crash(911MysteriesDVD), --indicating that he did not know they were going to crash, but someone did, & warned him, before the crash!! --So why did they not warn the FIREMEN & POLICEMEN to get out, or wait until they were out??? Were they like Jules Vern’s Eloi people, -kept to be used, & killed, by other people??? –Are all Firemen & Cops in danger of being used & killed for nefarious money profiteering projects, like this one?? --Elois Cops?? .
(20) The phone calls from FLIGHT 93 were obviously fraud from one script writer. No parents screamed, or cried or begged God not let their child crash & die. They all, just said “uh huh, uh huh, have a nice life, & hung up. Also, cell phone technology had not been developed enough to be used in high flying jets in 2001, indicating the supposedly heroic call from Todd Beamer & others were FAKE! –Raising questions if people from planes really were missing, what happened to them?? No piecies of flight 93 were found in the crash site, either. .
GOVERNMENT COMPLICITY EVIDENCE:
(21) Major stock holders in the affected airlines dumped their stocks the day before 9/11in tricky “put options”.
(22) War games were being conducted at the same time by the Air Force causing confusion, for a mock terrorist attack, so that no planes came to rescue, until 2 hours or so later. Washington DC has Andrews Air Force Base 10 minutes away, & no planes came to guard DC or the Pentagon that was hit over an hour after the towers were hit.
(23) There were warnings, & the government took no precautions. Osama Bin Laden was named the next day as sole responsible, but he has never been on the FBI’s most wanted list to this day. The Bin Laden Oil Industry Family was rushed out of the country the next day, with no questioning. Taliban had stopped heroin, & an oil pipeline was needed thru Afganistan.
Along with previous corrupt Bush Administration Tactics: Eliminate access to courts or ways to defend one’s self, & police protection; Manipulate the Citizens of the U.S. into being like sheep to slaughter, By making citizens to be ignorant, alone, afraid, dehumanized, on drugs, legal & illegal, unable to organize, or to do any thing against the government, Surveillance by corrupt CIA, police & corrupt government operatives; Control the Media & Suppress Exposure of the Corruption in Government; Silence those who speak against the Bush Administration --- or politically black-ball, or force into homelessness. 39.5% daily compound interest rates which can never be paid off & abolished bankruptcy. Torture is already legalized. How long before mass murder or concentration camps here, etc. Mass murder & subjugation is already taking place in Africa, Asia, S.America. -- And Ultimately: Subjugate the people of the U.S. & World, --Make people lose their jobs, homes,& businesses, while the Bush Regime buys them up, so that everyone with have to work for & rent from Bush Regime, at starvation levels, in heavy debt. Eliminate the Middle Class, & establish a small wealthy ruling class with 99% of the U.S. & the World as Poverty Ridden Oppressed Subjects in the manner of how Blacks were Oppressed in the U.S. from 1865-1965, & rule, & control the rest of the world. --And ultimately turn the U.S. into a Dictatorship/Oligarchy/Police State (officially). Accomplished by: Hire in government, only the immoral ignorant & hang something over their head, --especially Police & Military, & taught minimally how to oppress citizens, under the deception they will be part of a ruling class. Please note that all of the above tactics, used by the Bush Administration, were tactics used by Hitler, & his defense contractor industrials partners(controllers puppeteers), including W Bush’s grandfather, Prescott Bush, except Hitler warned & legalized beforehand. .

Please copy & distribute this liberally. Please send money to support Judy distributing this. She has been politically black balled, persecuted, & out of a job. Do not send checks, except money orders, as her bank account was confiscated, & she was semi-indicted by homeland security. Her degree to diagnose & prescribe medicine was pulled with no charges of harm, neglect, breach of standards or ethics, nor of not meeting requirements, etc. Her house was confiscated, etc.
Judy Cunningham,RN,BSN,BA,MS(abd Ph.D.) 914-844-**** drjudyforjustice@yahoo.com; 980 Broadway643, Thornwood ,NY10594

eromitlab
13th April 2008, 03:05 PM
Wow. I wonder if that came about as some sort of challenge... that challenge, of course, is how much stupid can be stuffed into a single e-mail.

NickUK
13th April 2008, 03:12 PM
2nd sentence, last paragraph. Bingo. Fail.

MikeW
13th April 2008, 03:15 PM
Wow. She really has no critical thinking whatsoever. That's so bad it's almost into parody territory.

LashL
13th April 2008, 03:20 PM
Oh, my.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11103480278fd7ffd4.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11726)

A W Smith
13th April 2008, 03:23 PM
Now would be a good time for Judy to fall back into her coma

Liszt
13th April 2008, 03:23 PM
2nd sentence, last paragraph. Bingo. Fail.


lol & true.

Isn't she a university professor, and therefore already gets paid? Or has she been Kevined?


The Commission stated that the entire plane vaporized, but stated that body parts of passengers were found, returned to relatives, & passports of the hijackers were found in the rubble. How????

Did the commission really say that? Ooops, I mean

Did the commission really say that????

Bobert
13th April 2008, 03:26 PM
Now would be a good time for Judy to fall back into her coma

OH MAN! I feel so wrong for laughing at that!
:jaw-dropp

RedIbis
13th April 2008, 03:29 PM
Judy Cunningham,RN,BSN,BA,MS(abd Ph.D.) 914-844-**** drjudyforjustice@yahoo.com; 980 Broadway643, Thornwood ,NY10594

Please clarify. The email is not from Dr. Judy Woods, correct?

JamesB
13th April 2008, 03:29 PM
This is a different Dr. Judy, who isn't even really a doctor.

Brainache
13th April 2008, 03:32 PM
So Dr Judy. No relation to Judge Judy I spose... When will we get Pilot Judy? Or General Judy?

RedIbis
13th April 2008, 03:34 PM
This is a different Dr. Judy, who isn't even really a doctor.

True calling yourself a doctor with an abd phd is pretty lame. Still, some of your friends here have obviously confused the two, with an unusual level of classlessness.

AZCat
13th April 2008, 03:35 PM
True calling yourself a doctor with an abd phd is pretty lame. Still, some of your friends here have obviously confused the two, with an unusual level of classlessness.

"abd"?

RedIbis
13th April 2008, 03:38 PM
"abd"?

all but dissertation, usually a protracted quagmire from which few can emerge

AZCat
13th April 2008, 03:42 PM
all but dissertation, usually a protracted quagmire from which few can emerge

Ahh, thanks for the explanation. I have heard of this problem, just not abbreviated as such.

hurdygurdy
13th April 2008, 03:43 PM
So many stundies, so little time!

My favorite: "Einstein’s Theory Of Relativity proves that matter is neither created nor destroyed, & heavy solid metal elements do not vaporize on Earth". Antoine Lavoisier must be revolving in his grave.

bje
13th April 2008, 03:44 PM
Sounds like Nico in drag.

Bobert
13th April 2008, 03:45 PM
Its great that whatever graduate school that she attended gave scholarships to the mentally ill.

Liszt
13th April 2008, 03:46 PM
Her degree to diagnose & prescribe medicine was pulled with no charges of harm, neglect, breach of standards or ethics, nor of not meeting requirements, etc. Her house was confiscated, etc.

What about this? An MD?

And who on earth confiscated her house?

JamesB
13th April 2008, 03:50 PM
True calling yourself a doctor with an abd phd is pretty lame. Still, some of your friends here have obviously confused the two, with an unusual level of classlessness.

Given the similar names and identical level of nuttiness, it is an understandable mistake.

Elizabeth I
13th April 2008, 03:56 PM
I can't read that! You're mean to even make me try...

Drudgewire
13th April 2008, 04:00 PM
Please send money to support Judy distributing this. She has been politically black balled, persecuted, & out of a job. Do not send checks, except money orders, as her bank account was confiscated, & she was semi-indicted by homeland security. Her degree to diagnose & prescribe medicine was pulled with no charges of harm, neglect, breach of standards or ethics, nor of not meeting requirements, etc. Her house was confiscated, etc.



http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/nelson_haha2.jpg

pomeroo
13th April 2008, 04:01 PM
I wonder if they'd release her long enough to appear on 'Hardfire.'

JamesB
13th April 2008, 04:04 PM
I wonder if they'd release her long enough to appear on 'Hardfire.'

Well her number is in the e-mail if you want it.

pomeroo
13th April 2008, 04:07 PM
"*Karl Rove, Bush’s advisor, stated in his speech to the Republican National Convention 1/20/01, that THEY NEED & WILL HAVE A WAR, IN ORDER TO BE RE-ELECTED"


It's strange. I've been jousting with these idiots (well, admittedly, Dr. Judy is a bigger idiot than most) for two years. I still can't figure out why they would post something that can't possibly be true. Doesn't she think somebody might have noticed if Rove said something like this? Does she understand that 1/20/01 was the date of Bush's Inaugural Address, not the Republican Convention? As someone pointed out the other day, stupidity appears to have no limits.

pomeroo
13th April 2008, 04:08 PM
Well her number is in the e-mail if you want it.


Let's see if I'm still hosting the show post-Ace.

pomeroo
13th April 2008, 04:10 PM
Who is this psycho? Someday who makes Judy Wood look sane by comparison deserves to be better known.

pomeroo
13th April 2008, 04:13 PM
"5) Molten steel remained for 6 weeks after, which is consistent with bombs & controlled demolition, & not crushing collapse"


She really, really wants this to be true, therefore it is. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the fantasy movement.

OldTigerCub
13th April 2008, 04:22 PM
Her degree to diagnose & prescribe medicine was pulled with no charges of harm, neglect, breach of standards or ethics, nor of not meeting requirements, etc. Her house was confiscated, etc.

What about this? An MD?

And who on earth confiscated her house?

I'm guessing the bank holding the deed reposessed it. That's what usually happens when you can't hold a job and pay the mortgage because you're obsessed with chasing after fantasies.

(bolding mine)

jhunter1163
13th April 2008, 04:22 PM
(18) The World Trade Centers were built in 1970-71, as an experimental controlled environment, with no windows.

Did anyone here ever eat at Walls on the World on the 109th floor?

Liszt
13th April 2008, 04:28 PM
I'm guessing the bank holding the deed reposessed it. That's what usually happens when you can't hold a job and pay the mortgage because you're obsessed with chasing after fantasies.

(bolding mine)


true, of course, but she seems to be implying something else...


Do not send checks, except money orders, as her bank account was confiscated, & she was semi-indicted by homeland security

Normally I'd just assume she was wrong/lying, but saying "send no checks" indicates that she really has no way to process money. (Alex Jones doesn't seem to have the same problems!).

And God knows what "semi-indicted" means.

jhunter1163
13th April 2008, 04:28 PM
This just gets funnier with every reading:

Einstein’s Theory Of Relativity proves that matter is neither created nor destroyed, & heavy solid metal elements do not vaporize on Earth (greater than 5,432 degrees has never been reached).

Someone might want to remind her about the hydrogen bomb. Those get a little warmer than 5,432 degrees.

1337m4n
13th April 2008, 04:32 PM
(17) Larry Silverstien, lease holder of the WTC, was filmed saying, “We decided to Pull It.”(Zeitgiest DVD) “Pull it” is an industry term for setting off controlled demolition. After being confronted, he admitted that it was controlled demolition in building 7, --note that it would have taken over a week to set controlled demolition in that 47 story building. That is evidence that controlled demolition was, also, set in the 2 towers.

HOLY JESUS, HOW MANY LIES CAN BE PACKED INTO A SINGLE PARAGRAPH?

Every single sentence is false. How the heck???

DarkMagician
13th April 2008, 04:33 PM
2nd sentence, last paragraph. Bingo. Fail.

Wait, you see paragraphs in that mess? All I see are lines and junk. My mind surrendered on trying to parse that into paragraphs.

Liszt
13th April 2008, 04:34 PM
(18) The World Trade Centers were built in 1970-71, as an experimental controlled environment, with no windows.

Did anyone here ever eat at Walls on the World on the 109th floor?

No windows, apart from 46,300, which was about 600,000 sqare feet.

OldTigerCub
13th April 2008, 04:35 PM
true, of course, but she seems to be implying something else...


Do not send checks, except money orders, as her bank account was confiscated, & she was semi-indicted by homeland security

Normally I'd just assume she was wrong/lying, but saying "send no checks" indicates that she really has no way to process money. (Alex Jones doesn't seem to have the same problems!).

And God knows what "semi-indicted" means.

I was wondering about the "semi-indicted" statement too...:rolleyes:
Full blown paranoia with feelings of persecution seems more likely.
It seems obvious that the woman needs some serious professional help.

CHF
13th April 2008, 04:37 PM
Please clarify. The email is not from Dr. Judy Woods, correct?

Correct. But it might as well have been her.

I can't tell the difference.

Jonnyclueless
13th April 2008, 04:37 PM
If anyone needs the e-mail translated, here it is:

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah ...

LashL
13th April 2008, 04:39 PM
Who is this psycho? Someday who makes Judy Wood look sane by comparison deserves to be better known.


According to some troofer on Google Video, this is Judy Cunningham in this 26 second video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3024700254414732241

stateofgrace
13th April 2008, 04:44 PM
The entire email was a parody, right ? :confused:

pomeroo
13th April 2008, 04:44 PM
"note that it would have taken over a week to set controlled demolition in that 47 story building."


Fascinating. One of the sickest, most deranged ignoramuses running loose lets fly and fails to get everything wrong. In a cascade of utter gibberish, there appears, by pure chance, a random sentence that is completely correct.

Jonnyclueless
13th April 2008, 04:46 PM
It may take over a week to set a demolition of a 47 story building, but only half a day and only access to half of one to set a demolition of 2 110 story buildings.

gumboot
13th April 2008, 04:48 PM
Wow... just wow...

Some highlights...

(20) The phone calls from FLIGHT 93 were obviously fraud from one script writer. No parents screamed, or cried or begged God not let their child crash & die. They all, just said “uh huh, uh huh, have a nice life, & hung up.

Nice... :mad:

(4) Jet fuel only burns at 1700 degrees, & would have burned up in 15 seconds...The commission stated that the burning desks, plastics & paper melted the steel, but they only burn at 450 degrees...The towers fell after only about 45 minutes of fires. Molten steel was seen flowing from the towers before it crashed.

...

Fire burned in a tower in Madrid in 2002 for 19 hours, on all floors, but the steel frame remained.

...

(11) Marvin Bush (brother) was head of security, & shut down security cameras 2 weeks before, & that is how long it would take to set the controlled demolition, & there were fire drills for two weeks before, which would have allowed the setting.

...

(13) 6 of the 11 hijackers were found alive, in Arabia, Egypt, & Germany.

...

(16) BUILDING 7 came down, controlled demolition fashion, also, & no plane hit it!,--& there were only small fires on 2 floors.

(17) Larry Silverstien, lease holder of the WTC, was filmed saying, “We decided to Pull It.”(Zeitgiest DVD) “Pull it” is an industry term for setting off controlled demolition. After being confronted, he admitted that it was controlled demolition in building 7

...

Also, all steel beams in the building, frame & otherwise were covered with asbestos, & was un-removable. There were millions of dollars in law suits for lung cancer, mesothelioma, leukemia, etc., & fines from the city & agencies.

...

(20) The phone calls from FLIGHT 93 were obviously fraud from one script writer. No parents screamed, or cried or begged God not let their child crash & die. They all, just said “uh huh, uh huh, have a nice life, & hung up.

...

(21) Major stock holders in the affected airlines dumped their stocks the day before 9/11in tricky “put options”.

...

(22) War games were being conducted at the same time by the Air Force causing confusion, for a mock terrorist attack, so that no planes came to rescue, until 2 hours or so later. Washington DC has Andrews Air Force Base 10 minutes away, & no planes came to guard DC or the Pentagon that was hit over an hour after the towers were hit.

...

(23) There were warnings, & the government took no precautions. Osama Bin Laden was named the next day as sole responsible, but he has never been on the FBI’s most wanted list to this day. The Bin Laden Oil Industry Family was rushed out of the country the next day, with no questioning. Taliban had stopped heroin, & an oil pipeline was needed thru Afganistan.

All of the above are examples of a phenomenon I refer to as "theory creep". That is, that over time the details of various theories change in order to reinforce the false position, deviating further and further from reality.

The first one is a good example...

It is a theory creep from the "jet fuel fires can't melt steel, the fuel burned off in a short space of time, you really expect me to believe office furniture burns hot, the buildings collapse quite quick compared to other longer fires" canard we are all familiar with.

We should expect to see more theory creep as time goes on and as proponents of the Conspiracy Theories become more and more removed from the actual events of that day. This is, of course, to our advantage, as eventually the theory creeps into a territory where it claims as true something which is demonstratively false. Looking at the first example again, we have:

"would have burned up in 15 seconds"

"but they only burn at 450 degrees"

"The towers fell after only about 45 minutes of fires"

The above three points were not features of this original theory, instead the first and third were based on the actual times offered by the official investigations, and the second was argued from person incredulity. However by making these absolute statements of "fact" in the creep version of the theory, the theorist has destroyed their own argument. Rather than explain to the novice how the towers actually fell, all one needs to do is point out these basic errors.

1337m4n
13th April 2008, 04:52 PM
If anyone needs the e-mail translated, here it is:

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah ...

No, HERE'S the e-mail translated:

http://ualuealuealeualemirror.ytmnd.com/

(Sound must be on)

JamesB
13th April 2008, 04:55 PM
"but they only burn at 450 degrees"



That is one of my favorites, so as all you Ray Bradbury fans know, office fires do not burn hot enough to ignite paper. :D

eromitlab
13th April 2008, 05:10 PM
The entire email was a parody, right ? :confused:

It needs a caption at the bottom, like in the South Park Scientology episode.
"This is what 9/11 truthers actually believe".

T.A.M.
13th April 2008, 05:21 PM
Her degree to diagnose & prescribe medicine was pulled with no charges of harm, neglect, breach of standards or ethics, nor of not meeting requirements, etc. Her house was confiscated, etc.

What about this? An MD?

And who on earth confiscated her house?

I don't know about in the USA, though I suspect it is similar, but here in Canada Nurse Practitioners can prescribe a limited number of meds. She does not list MD in her credentials in the email, so I suspect if she was prescribing it was through some sort of Nurse Practitioner license or similar.

God help you all...;)

TAM:)

Liszt
13th April 2008, 05:32 PM
I don't know about in the USA, though I suspect it is similar, but here in Canada Nurse Practitioners can prescribe a limited number of meds. She does not list MD in her credentials in the email, so I suspect if she was prescribing it was through some sort of Nurse Practitioner license or similar.

God help you all...;)

TAM:)

makes sense, thanks Doc :)

SpitfireIX
13th April 2008, 05:48 PM
<snip>

All of the residue from the steel, aluminum, & titanium, etc. should have been in the picture, unless the temp remained greater than 5,432 degrees until all molecules had floated away for the entire distance, which would have vaporized the Pentagon & surroundings, too, violating the Law of Thermodynamics.

<snip>


What?? There's only one Law of Thermodynamics?? What a gyp! I want my money back for those two semesters of Thermo!

AZCat
13th April 2008, 05:50 PM
What?? There's only one Law of Thermodynamics?? What a gyp! I want my money back for those two semesters of Thermo!

Only two semesters?! noob. </snark>

SpitfireIX
13th April 2008, 05:53 PM
Only two semesters?! noob. </snark>


Give me a break; I'm only a sophomore (or I will be when I go back next fall; long story).

AZCat
13th April 2008, 05:56 PM
Give me a break; I'm only a sophomore (or I will be when I go back next fall; long story).

I was just kidding. Two is plenty enough to understand the idiocy of most CTer claims.

Don't worry about taking time off, either. I had a few non-academic years in between my junior and senior years. It's good you're going back, though.

SpitfireIX
13th April 2008, 05:59 PM
I was just kidding. Two is plenty enough to understand the idiocy of most CTer claims.

Don't worry about taking time off, either. I had a few non-academic years in between my junior and senior years. It's good you're going back, though.


Thanks. I had hoped to go straight through full-time when I first went back, but life sort of got in the way.

Mr. Skinny
13th April 2008, 06:22 PM
Too long. Didn't read it. No paragraphs.

Cl1mh4224rd
13th April 2008, 06:23 PM
Her degree to diagnose & prescribe medicine was pulled with no charges of harm, neglect, breach of standards or ethics, nor of not meeting requirements, etc. Her house was confiscated, etc.

What about this? An MD?


Well, in her credentials she lists RN (Registered Nurse) and BSN (Bachelor of Science in Nursing), so...

And who on earth confiscated her house?


Had to make way for that bypass...

jhunter1163
13th April 2008, 06:36 PM
She might have been an APRN. They may have pulled her license for not having enough CE, not paying the renewal fee, etc. Whoever her licensing authority was, they had a reason for pulling her license. There's ALWAYS a reason.

Liszt
13th April 2008, 06:40 PM
Well, in her credentials she lists RN (Registered Nurse) and BSN

indeed, as TAM suspected.

She really shouldn't be calling herself a doctor. But she also shouldn't say that the WTC didn't have any windows either.

Normally, phrases like "need medication" and "stark raving mental" are missused on CTists, and banded around willy nilly by unqualified persons.

In this case however... :shocked:

Alareth
13th April 2008, 06:54 PM
No windows, apart from 46,300, which was about 600,000 sqare feet.


Those weren't really windows, those sections of the building were actually clad in transparent aluminium.

Liszt
13th April 2008, 07:02 PM
Those weren't really windows, those sections of the building were actually clad in transparent aluminium.


really? I got that from


http://www.theharrowgroup.com/articles/20020401/WTC_facts.htm

and then went to the screwloosechange site to see if it was mentioned there, and it was, James B, said

"No windows? Quick, someone call Richard Gage!"


So was "Doctor" Judy correct here? God this is confusing.

(I admit that I know absolutely nothing about the WTC thing)

Alareth
13th April 2008, 07:04 PM
really? I got that from


http://www.theharrowgroup.com/articles/20020401/WTC_facts.htm

and then went to the screwloosechange site to see if it was mentioned there, and it was, James B, said

"No windows? Quick, someone call Richard Gage!"


So was "Doctor" Judy correct here? God this is confusing.

(I admit that I know absolutely nothing about the WTC thing)

It was a combination of sarcasm and a Star Trek joke. Yes, they were windows.

jhunter1163
13th April 2008, 07:06 PM
That was probably my favorite of the Star Trek movies. My ex-wife and I went around for months saying "One damn minute, Admiral" whenever one asked the other to do something.

Liszt
13th April 2008, 07:12 PM
I am an idiot for falling for that one.

But I just spent 30 minutes on Ace Baker's site, and it clearly had a bad effect. And it is 3am. Ran out of cigarettes. etc etc.

Anyway, at least I can go to sleep safe in the knowledge that Doctor Judy is no longer allowed to administer drugs.

(it is also my favorite Star Trek film, despite an overweight Scotty)

gumboot
13th April 2008, 07:26 PM
She really shouldn't be calling herself a doctor.


She claims to have a Doctorate in Philosophy (all but dissertation, which I believe means she hasn't finished it, and therefore hasn't actually got a Ph.D at all).

Dave Rogers
13th April 2008, 07:33 PM
Scientific Evidence:

Oh goody, I like science.

The government 9/11 Commission was comprised of defense contractors who profited from 9/11,or were culpable or otherwise biased

Uh, wait... what? That's scientific evidence?

The government 9/11 Commission reported that the reason the plane was not in the pictures of the PENTAGON, was because the plane entirely vaporized in the fire, but Einstein’s Theory Of Relativity proves that matter is neither created nor destroyed,

Just a physics PhD asking here, but doesn't it rather prove the exact opposite? I'm not suggesting that matter was created or destroyed at the WTC, but this is Stundie-worthy.

& heavy solid metal elements do not vaporize on Earth (greater than 5,432 degrees has never been reached).

The e-beam evaporator that I use on a regular basis seems to disagree. Mind you, this would make a great excuse at the next project meeting. "We were unable to evaporate the gold contacts on this device because heavy solid metal elements do not vaporize on Earth." I've known one or two project managers who might buy that one.

-All of the residue from the steel, aluminum, & titanium, etc. should have been in the picture, unless the temp remained greater than 5,432 degrees until all molecules had floated away for the entire distance, which would have vaporized the Pentagon & surroundings, too, violating the Law of Thermodynamics. However, there were not even skid marks or any harm to the lawn.

Yes, whenever molecules float away they always leave skid marks on the lawn.

Expert Engineers in the Fields of Construction & Demolitions report that the way the WORLD TRADE TOWERS fell, could only have been done by Controlled Demolition, & not by planes or fire, as (fraudulently) described by the government 9/11 Commission Report. (Steven Jones of Brigham Young U.; Richard Gage,AE, Jeff King of MIT; David Ray Griffith, Judy Wood, Alex Jones):

Yes, because nuclear physics degrees include a mandatory course on building demolition.

(1) the towers fell at the speed of gravity 11 seconds, w no resistance from the floors below, in violation of the Law Of Gravity, but consistent w the speed of controlled demolition.

Looks like another Stundie - controlled demolitions violate the Law of Gravity!

the inside girders would still have remained, like a stereo record stacker, even as it fell.

Sorry, but that won't work with the YouTube generation. Half of them can't even remember what a CD was for.

All of the videos of planes hitting are different, & the plane is always dark grey, while the rest of the picture is bright sunlight with all details & colors clearly visible. A helicopter is flying backwards in one video, demonstrating poor mixing in the fake plane video over the real NY skyline video.

So the videos are all different, which proves they're fakes, but they're all the same too, which really proves they're fakes. And helicopters can't fly backwards now.

I love this one - the Vicky Pollard CD theory.

The video of Tower 1 crashing shows the antenna at the top, descending into the cloud of dust, before the bottom of the building begins to descend, meaning that the top of tower 1 was destroyed before the bottom, & the top did not tamp down the bottom of the building. –but, even if it did, then what destroyed the top of the building?

Yeah, but no, but yeah, but no, but...

It's impressive, this e-mail. She can't even get her conspiracy theories right.

Dave

Walter Ego
13th April 2008, 07:34 PM
According to some troofer on Google Video, this is Judy Cunningham in this 26 second video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3024700254414732241


She seems to be a regular at Ground Zero.

From the Google Video recorded 9/11/06.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/228454802b2c9eec3a.bmp (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11731)

From a YouTube video recorded at GZ on 4/5/08 by Paula Gloria.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MB1IzupmORQ (starting 16:00 in).

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/228454802b363770b8.bmp (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11732)

She seems thinner in the recent video but the voice sounds the same.

Elizabeth I
13th April 2008, 07:37 PM
Did anyone here ever eat at Walls on the World on the 109th floor?

Ooh, ooh, I did! But I remembered windows...did I hallucinate them?

Jonnyclueless
13th April 2008, 07:50 PM
Does Judy mention anything about Britney and Moby getting together?

AZCat
13th April 2008, 08:17 PM
She seems to be a regular at Ground Zero.

From the Google Video recorded 9/11/06.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/228454802b2c9eec3a.bmp

From a YouTube video recorded at GZ on 4/5/08 by Paula Gloria.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MB1IzupmORQ (starting 16:00 in).

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/228454802b363770b8.bmp

She seems thinner in the recent video but the voice sounds the same.

The lady who posted the second video (paulagloria at YouTube) has some strange videos (including the one with that image). I'm watching some video with her from 4/7/08 and I have a question - is Nico Haupt a squatter in NYC?

qarnos
13th April 2008, 08:25 PM
How is someone "semi-indicted"?

Walter Ego
13th April 2008, 08:43 PM
The lady who posted the second video (paulagloria at YouTube) has some strange videos (including the one with that image). I'm watching some video with her from 4/7/08 and I have a question - is Nico Haupt a squatter in NYC?


Paula Gloria is indeed a strange lady. Nico's building has been sold and the tenants have apparently been given notice to move out but it's not clear whether they are technically squatting at this point. Gloira, who has a Manhattan Public Access TV show and puts up videos almost daily on YouTube, will doubtless keep us informed.

AZCat
13th April 2008, 08:48 PM
Paula Gloria is indeed a strange lady. Nico's building has been sold and the tenants have apparently been given notice to move out but it's not clear whether they are technically squatting at this point. Gloira, who has a Manhattan Public Access TV show and puts up videos almost daily on YouTube, will doubtless keep us informed.

Weird - really, really weird.

Thanks for the clarification - it was getting difficult to figure out who was doing what.

Walter Ego
13th April 2008, 09:00 PM
Weird - really, really weird.

Thanks for the clarification - it was getting difficult to figure out who was doing what.

From the YouTube video by Gloria.

As 12 Warren Street trades between unknown owners to the tune of rapidly escalating millions in an age where it takes a detective to figure out who the owners actually are it looks like these poor, tragic artists are out on the street again and as one sleeps on my sofa tonight...

It's a real soap opera...

LashL
13th April 2008, 09:06 PM
How is someone "semi-indicted"?

Beats me. Maybe it's kind of like being "a little bit pregnant".





(P.S. Great to see you, garnos!)

AZCat
13th April 2008, 09:08 PM
From the YouTube video by Gloria.



It's a real soap opera...

I just made it to the end of that video. Nico wraps it up with a nice finish - he accuses pretty much everyone of being somehow against him (whether CIA or whatever) because they are either "plane-huggers" or associate with "plane-huggers". The other guy - Nico's buddy - sounded like he was trying to talk Paula's producer(?) into letting him live in their offices. "Soap opera" is right. :eek:

A W Smith
13th April 2008, 10:14 PM
Just finished watching parts of (no I couldn't sit through It all) the Paula Gloria video at GZ with Nico in that leather mask.

WOW.. what a break from reality. Are they all on LSD or something? It is as if someone had a series of nightmares and decided to live their life using a script derived from an interpretation of those dreams. and whats with Paula's obsession with sex?

She knew a guy who could only achieve 3 hour erections by meditating
something about Nico wearing a shirt with an image of a perverted sex act on it "waking her up" to the possibility that no one will come forward simply because their perversions will be outed by the conspirators.. Really Gloria? And Nico? All of lower Manhattan?
Tom Foti is apparently "One sexy Guy" splashed in text across the screen.What does anything in those conversations have to do with 9/11?? I couldn't make heads or tails of it. Is this some sort of a bizarro performance art project? Are you supposed to play the audio of those videos while you sleep and suddenly wake up bolt upright and say EUREKA!??

Jonnyclueless
14th April 2008, 12:06 AM
No, HERE'S the e-mail translated:

http://ualuealuealeualemirror.ytmnd.com/

(Sound must be on)

I think you messed up. All I saw/heard was a translation of LastChild.

eromitlab
14th April 2008, 02:36 AM
Ooh, ooh, I did! But I remembered windows...did I hallucinate them?

Yes. Up that high in the building, it no doubt had something to do with chemtrails containing hallucinogenic agents.

T.A.M.
14th April 2008, 05:12 AM
If she actually has a PhD, then I have no problem with her calling herself "Doctor" Judy, as technically she is one (if she has a completed Doctorate). What I do not like, is someone with a doctorate in philosophy acting or implying he/she is in anyway a medical doctor.

Dr. Phil, for instance, IIRC is not a medical doctor, but does not parade around as such either.

TAM:)

defaultdotxbe
14th April 2008, 05:24 AM
(4) Jet fuel only burns at 1700 degrees, & would have burned up in 15 seconds, & it takes 2,700 degrees to melt steel, so the Commission Report could not have been true, that the jet fuel melted the steel girders, causing them to bend & buckle.
i think this might be another example of gumboots "theory creep"

i recall back when i first saw LC1.0 they said jet fuel burns at 1800 degrees, now its 1700, so will this continue to get lower and lower?

also im wondering if this might be the reason they keep claiming steel melted, since she seems to think steel has to melt to bend maybe she doent know what "melt" means?

T.A.M.
14th April 2008, 05:31 AM
Judy's email is the "kitchen sink" spew of woo. She has CD theories mixed right in there with no-plane theory.

She should have her degrees taken from her for such an exhibition of stupidity.

TAM:)

Kage
14th April 2008, 05:57 AM
This email leads me to believe that multiple noncommunicating parts of her brain are having a contest to see who can get further from reality. Like the special olympics, all will receive medals.

As far as her house is concerned, it might have something to do with the first impression I had had reading the email, which was "Too bad I have far too many scruples to sell sub-prime mortgages."

Alferd_Packer
14th April 2008, 08:16 AM
(3) An aluminum plane could not have gone thru 9 feet of concrete & 4 rows of 4-ft-square steel girders, but a replacement plane of depleted uranium, engineered by the dept. of defense, could

DU Airplane, A great name for a Led Zepplin cover band.

DC
14th April 2008, 10:15 AM
no wonder alot ppl call her Agent Woods

:rolleyes:

Dave Rogers
14th April 2008, 10:40 AM
Different Judy. Try to keep up.

Dave

DC
14th April 2008, 10:44 AM
Different Judy. Try to keep up.

Dave

oh indeed :boggled:

point 11 shows that clearly

Cl1mh4224rd
14th April 2008, 08:47 PM
Ooh, ooh, I did! But I remembered windows...did I hallucinate them?


Drugs in the food. All part of The Plan™. Very hush-hush...

Alferd_Packer
15th April 2008, 04:23 AM
I think she meant that the windows didn't open.

As for the moldy air handlers, I guess she missed that day in class where they explained that mold needs a good supply of moisture to grow.

westprog
15th April 2008, 05:29 AM
And God knows what "semi-indicted" means.

I laughed out loud at that bit.

TheDaver
15th April 2008, 05:59 AM
That email is the epitome of TL;DR.

alexg
15th April 2008, 06:15 AM
And who on earth confiscated her house?

The bank? They tend to do that when you stop those pesky payments.