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billydkid
14th April 2008, 11:04 AM
Remember the good old days when you actually had to break a law to get arrest?

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/125968.html

Oliver
14th April 2008, 12:08 PM
Remember the good old days when you actually had to break a law to get arrest?

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/125968.html


I'm sorry - but nope. Still true over here. Even for änämy combätänts.

Giggywig
14th April 2008, 12:16 PM
I'm sorry - but nope. Still true over here. Even for änämy combätänts.

Yes, nobody in Germany ever got arrested for flimsy reasons.

Nope, not in Germany... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/aug/21/highereducation.internationaleducationnews)
The federal prosecutor's office arrested Mr Holm on August 1 under paragraph 129a of the anti-terrorism law, citing the repeated use of words such as "gentrification" and "inequality" in his academic papers, terms similar to those used by the urban activist organisation "militante gruppe" (mg). According to the prosecution report the frequency of the overlap between words used by Mr Holm and the group was "striking, and not to be explained through a coincidence".

I mean, using words like gentrification and inequality? Meeting with people suspected of crimes? Plus he had, wait for it... access to a library? I'm surprised you didn't execute him on the spot.

Pardalis
14th April 2008, 12:19 PM
Yes, nobody in Germany ever got arrested for flimsy reasons.

Nope, not in Germany... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/aug/21/highereducation.internationaleducationnews)


I mean, using words like gentrification and inequality? Meeting with people suspected of crimes? Plus he had, wait for it... access to a library? I'm surprised you didn't execute him on the spot.

Somehow Ollie (or his ghostwriter) will say it's the US's fault.

quixotecoyote
14th April 2008, 03:52 PM
Without joining the Oliver Hate Brigade, I do think that police in this country get a pass when wielding authority beyond that justified by law. Someone here has a good rant on the increasing authoritarian mindset of the American public.

bigred
18th April 2008, 08:40 AM
Back to DC....was this as absurd as it sounds? Anyone have any other sources/info? Just curious. (Don't even get me started on ahole cops)

dirtywick
18th April 2008, 09:03 AM
http://dc.metblogs.com/2008/04/14/dance-party-at-jefferson-memorial-leads-to-arrest/

Everyone has a camera these days.

Yes, it appears to be that absurd.

Tony
18th April 2008, 04:29 PM
The officers in this case deserve to lose their jobs, be arrested and charged with kidnapping.

The Central Scrutinizer
18th April 2008, 09:54 PM
It's worth noting that you are only hearing one side of the events of that evening. "We weren't doing anything" is also what every crook says after the police chase them down in a foot pursuit.

Given that they are Libertarians, I'm inclined to not believe them. I suspect the police did an exemplary job.

ETA: after watching the video, I was right. The police were professional and courteous. I loved how they didn't even respond to the loser with the camera. Just shut the door in his face.

The Central Scrutinizer
18th April 2008, 09:58 PM
http://dc.metblogs.com/2008/04/14/dance-party-at-jefferson-memorial-leads-to-arrest/

Everyone has a camera these days.

Yes, it appears to be that absurd.

LOL! "Read these wallth. Read these wallth". Wow, who gave Mr Garrison a camera?

These idiots went looking for trouble and then complained when they found it.

jj
18th April 2008, 10:10 PM
There's more that we can see here. In fact, unless it is illegal to dance in a national monument, one has to wonder at the belligerance of the security dude.

The responses didn't help much, though.

Of course, the real message is that Thomas Jefferson was not a real American, because he supported dancing.

gumboot
19th April 2008, 06:26 AM
Remember the good old days when you actually had to break a law to get arrest?

Do you actually have to break a law to get arrested in the USA?

You only have to break a law to be charged in New Zealand. Heck, the police can arrest you for your own safety.

Dancing David
20th April 2008, 05:43 AM
Sounds absurd.

The feds are a little heavy handed right now.

I am sure they have some sort of excuse. Like dancing is immoral and a threat to marriage.

I would like to read a story from a newpaper. If they were Merry Pranksters then the 'cops' could be fellow pranksters, but then they would have 'tazed' the dancer as well.

"Lets see you dance now!", zap.

The Central Scrutinizer
20th April 2008, 07:01 AM
Skeptics will note that the loonies only took video of their arrest and eviction. They seem to have forgotten to record the prior part when they "weren't doing anything". Odd, that.

The Man
20th April 2008, 07:44 AM
What "good old days" were these? Back in the 60’s and 70’s, when cop’s didn’t have to even bother with arresting you to make it look good? They might just beat the crap out of you for whatever reason and sometimes even in front of a camera. Not that I have anything against the police, but things were a lot different and a lot worse for suspects and even law abiding citizens back in the “good old days”



To Quote Billy Joel from “Keeping the Faith”

“Cause the good ole days weren't
Always good
And tomorrow ain't as bad as it seems”

shuize
20th April 2008, 09:07 AM
What "good old days" were these? Back in the 60’s and 70’s, when cop’s didn’t have to even bother with arresting you to make it look good? They might just beat the crap out of you for whatever reason and sometimes even in front of a camera. Not that I have anything against the police, but things were a lot different and a lot worse for suspects and even law abiding citizens back in the “good old days”


No kidding. The good ol' days, when "non-lethal force" meant a billy-club to the head.