Arnold for President? Stealth plan to amend the CONSTITUTION?

[Silicon]

According to the New Yorker,
"On July 10th, Sentator Orrin Hatch, Republican of Utah quietly intorduced what he hopes will become the twenty-eighth amendment"



It changes the old rule from Article II Section 1, that required that a person be born in the US to be president.

Orrin's version says you have to have been a citizen for 20 years.


And lookey here... Swarzennegger has been a citizen for ... hmmm EXACTLY 20 years now.


Discuss.

[toddjh]

Originally posted by Silicon
According to the New Yorker,
"On July 10th, Sentator Orrin Hatch, Republican of Utah quietly intorduced what he hopes will become the twenty-eighth amendment"

Regardless of the motivation, I don't have a problem with it. If the majority of U.S. electors wants a person to be president, they obviously consider him qualified. Why should the candidate's nation of origin make such a huge difference?

Jeremy

[a_unique_person]

Given the sexual predilictions of past presidents, why not just amend it to say the president has to be a horny little devil?

[SRW]

Originally posted by Silicon
According to the New Yorker,
"On July 10th, Sentator Orrin Hatch, Republican of Utah quietly intorduced what he hopes will become the twenty-eighth amendment"



It changes the old rule from Article II Section 1, that required that a person be born in the US to be president.

Orrin's version says you have to have been a citizen for 20 years.


And lookey here... Swarzennegger has been a citizen for ... hmmm EXACTLY 20 years now.


Discuss.

Well Orrin Hatch cannot amend the Constitution, all by his Little old self, it must be approved by Two-thirds of the states, and pass some other pretty strict requirements. So if it does pass it will be because the the majority of Americans want it.

Just Curious are you against all alien born citizens running for president or just Arnold?

[aerocontrols]

'Stealth' Plan.


:roll:


:D :D :D

[Silicon]

I'm against amending the constitution to suit one candidate who's particularly in the mind of Orrin Hatch.

And yes, there's a long way to go between Orrin's move and an actual Amendment.

But yes, it does scare me that there are people attempting to change the Constitution of the United States of America in order for one candidate to win one election.


Yes, Stealth plan is a joke, on purpose. I know they can't amend the constitution in secret.

But at least the first couple of steps are below the radar, or were before the New Yorker reported it.

I wonder why they didn't make a big media deal about it? I mean why not? If you are planning to amend the constitution so an Austrian bodybuilder can be president of the United States, shouldn't that be news?

The fact that this should be HUGE news (a constitutional amendment AND a movie star in the same story!), and it's NOT, somehow, makes this a Steath attempt, in my book.

[subgenius]

Anyone have the slightest idea of the origin or pupose of California's recall law?

[Pyrrho]

Originally posted by toddjh
Regardless of the motivation, I don't have a problem with it. If the majority of U.S. electors wants a person to be president, they obviously consider him qualified. Why should the candidate's nation of origin make such a huge difference?

Jeremy
Because of the very real potential for divided loyalties.

[Jaggy Bunnet]

Originally posted by Pyrrho

Because of the very real potential for divided loyalties.

Which presumably is something the voters could consider before they voted?

Of course someone born outside the US but who has lived there for, say 50 years, is far more likely to have divided loyalties than someone who although born there has chosen to live outside the US for the majority of their life, right? If not, why is one excluded from running for president while the other is not?

The exclusion says that you can't trust the electorate to choose the president. To me that is wrong.

[toddjh]

Originally posted by Pyrrho

Because of the very real potential for divided loyalties.

I'm with Jaggy. The fact that a person has gone to a great deal of trouble to become a U.S. citizen says to me that he has more loyalty to our country than your average person who is only a U.S. citizen through the accident of birth.

Besides, a native-born American can have loyalties just as divided. Look at all the religious nonsense that gets tossed around at all levels of government. Should there be a Constitutional amendment prohibiting all religious people from being president, for the same reason?

Leave it up to the electors and to the people. They are big boys and girls, they can decide who they want as president just fine.

Jeremy

[Wyvern]

Originally posted by subgenius
Anyone have the slightest idea of the origin or pupose of California's recall law?
It was initiated by a millionaire Republican. Imho there is no legally appropriate reason for a recall but it gained momentum due to the majority of people's dissatisfaction with the economy in general and in the Gov's poor leadership.

Hey, your avatar just winked at me. Ooh, gave me goose bumps.
;)

[SRW]

Originally posted by Wyvern

It was initiated by a millionaire Republican. Imho there is no legally appropriate reason for a recall but it gained momentum due to the majority of people's dissatisfaction with the economy in general and in the Gov's poor leadership.




You answered the wrong question, the recall law was adopted back in the early 1900's. And no matter what your opinion is the recall is completely legal. At least according to the CA Constitution.

[schplurg]

AUP:
Given the sexual predilictions of past presidents, why not just amend it to say the president has to be a horny little devil? Yeah, ALLL those guys...Reagan, Bush 1 & 2, Carter, Nixon were all horny little devils? Geez that brings up a nasty mental image!

So aside from Clinton, we've had exactly how many horny li'l devil presidents in recent history?

Any chance to generalize and get in a shot, right?

So who's voting for AUP in 2004?

[Ziggurat]

Originally posted by schplurg

So who's voting for AUP in 2004?

Can we vote him off the island? ;)