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CHF
19th April 2008, 08:09 AM
Isn't that what Jones has been studying all these years? Isn't that what he's been gathering "evidence" of?

Yet after all that research all he was willing to get "previewed" was: "NIST didn't test for thermite. On that we agree."

Wouldn't his (*cough!*) peer-review be a perfect time to review his smoking-gun microsphere evidence?

Whatever happened to that?

T.A.M.
19th April 2008, 08:28 AM
I understand he decided he was a fan of chips and dip instead.

TAM;)

Quad4_72
19th April 2008, 08:41 AM
I understand he decided he was a fan of chips and dip instead.

TAM;)

And kool aid...

LastChild
19th April 2008, 08:55 AM
Whatever happened to debunking it?

beachnut
19th April 2008, 09:12 AM
Whatever happened to debunking it?
It has been debunked, Jones made it up 4 years after 9/11. Cool

It was never a real theory, it was made up. No evidence. Check out all Jones smoking guns; he is one taxi ride short of happy dale.


Jones never did understand thermite, and how it is a gravity event.

Not one single pile of thermite iron products has been found. Debunks thermite

Not one single device used to cut the big columns with thermite was found. Debunks thermite.

Not one 9/11 truth member is able to say how much, and how it works, or show a method, full scale that would work. All the free thermite flows with gravity, the WTC columns are vertical, the best use for thermite is mischief, cooking enemies weapons, welding guns together, but all with the help of gravity, it does not go sideways.

Then you have the toy that cuts steel garden posts, the device stuck out about 10 times the diameter of the column, can you see 10 foot thermite cutting tools placed in the WTC elevator shafts as the elevators sheer them off?

19 terrorist come up with an idea to cut throats, dead pilots, take plane, run into buildings. The impacts on 911, were 7 to 11 times greater than the design of the WTC was survivable with. These are the simple facts, the simple minds of 911 truth fail to understand. All they do is nothing.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/87904670cd1dc0fcb.jpg
This is reflective of all of 9/11 truth's efforts with thermite. Action! Wowzer.

Got evidence? Not 9/11 truth; they are the fact less hearsay group of action.

Take some action and prove thermite for Jones and 9/11 truth. Show us some of that "ample evidence" 9/11 truth has to blame others instead of 19 terrorist who cut throats and kill people. Blame me and the military, add the FAA, and the FBI. Oh, add yourself since you failed to warn the world this was coming and now you, and you alone had all the answers to save us but your were doing what? Wait, you have never implied anything, you have no evidence you just ask questions. What else can you do?

5. I conducted simple experiments on the "pancaking" theory, by dropping cement blocks from approximately 12 feet onto other cement blocks. (The floors in the WTC buildings were about 12 feet apart.) We are supposed to believe, from the pancaking theory, that a concrete floor dropping 12 feet onto another concrete floor will result in PULVERIZED concrete observed during the Towers' collapses! Nonsense! My own experiments, and I welcome you to try this yourself, is that only chips/large chunks of cement flaked off the blocks -- no mass pulverization to approx. 100-micron powder as observed. Explosives, however, can indeed convert concrete to dust --mostly, along with some large chunks-- as observed in the destruction of the Twin Towers on 9-11-01.
Jones' work, appealing to those who lack knowledge. Anyone can see he leaves out the primary dust source in his simpleton experiment, when he loosely introduces thermite as the smoking gun, of all smoking guns. His gun is a water pistol; no smoke possible.
September 2005. 4 years too late, Jones and even you can't find evidence for thermite because it was not used. He is so sure in 2005 that thermite did it he says this!!
6. The observations of molten metal (I did not say molten steel!) in the basements of all three buildings, WTC 1, 2 and 7 is consistent with the use of the extremely high-temperature thermite reaction: iron oxide + aluminum powder --> Al2O3 + molten iron. Falling buildings are not observed to generate melting of large quantities of molten metal -- this requires a concentrated heat source such as explosives. Even the government reports admit that the fires were insufficient to melt steel beams (they argue for heating and warping then failure of these beams) -- but these reports do not mention the observed molten metal in the basements of WTC1, 2 and 7. Again we have a glaring omission of critical data in the FEMA, NIST and 9-11 Commission reports.
He takes hearsay pools of molten steel (which he calls metal, since there is a scientist in this biased political hack). He never has said why thermite, a reaction down in seconds and hard in minutes, is still flowing for weeks? Our educated dolt is a biased political hack, who has no idea what happen on 9/11 and the fact he presented thermite is the fact it is debunked.


Thermite, needs no debunking, it never was real. The only thing stopping Jones from being the Pulitzer Prize winner is evidence. As you enter the 7th years of do nothing 9/11 truth, you still just ask questions, take no action, have no evidence. The perfect movement for you and others who love to parrot false information and ask dumb questions. Why think when you can repeat and just ask questions. That should be the slogan of 9/11 truth, it is their observed behavior.

CHF
19th April 2008, 09:14 AM
Whatever happened to debunking it?

Debunking what? The stuff Jones decided to exclude from his paper?

The man had a chance at "peer-review" and decided to leave his thermite evidence sitting on the shelf - replacing it with a JAQ off display of tired old canards.

Why do you think he did that, LC?

WildCat
19th April 2008, 09:47 AM
Whatever happened to debunking it?
How'd that truthburn project go LC? Remember that, where you truthers were going to cut a column with thermite? It was a massive fail!

Jonnyclueless
19th April 2008, 02:06 PM
But it looked just like a CD! You mean you want more?!?!

The Doc
19th April 2008, 09:45 PM
Whatever happened to debunking it?

Burden of proof. The mild "evidence" that was presented for it was debunked, but the general theory never had any supporting evidence in the first place. It was never proved.

MIKILLINI
19th April 2008, 09:56 PM
Whatever happened to debunking it?

It's obvious you still haven't grasped the definition of debunking. In S. Jones' case, he hasn't proved anything that would be construed as evidence involving a catalyst ignition device.

Sizzler
19th April 2008, 10:46 PM
If I am not mistaken I think a film is going to be released that looks into the experiments Jones is doing.

Here is a short clip (from said film) including images of dust samples and microspheres being extracted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FCqsIgCcZQ&eurl=http://911blogger.com/blog?page=1

At any rate, there is no time limit on science and it's probably best left un-rushed.

On the other hand, if Jones is correct and 9-11 was an inside job, time is critical in bringing the real terrorists to justice before another "false-flag".

beachnut
19th April 2008, 10:53 PM
lol

uk_dave
19th April 2008, 11:23 PM
On the other hand, if Jones is correct and 9-11 was an inside job, time is critical in bringing the real terrorists to justice before another "false-flag".

Or before they leave office and the new administration fails to find any secret illuminati symbols painted on the walls of the oval office or a copy of "false flag attacks for dummies - how to fake the evidence so that internet sleuths are unconvinced" isn't found behind the couch in the west wing.

1337m4n
20th April 2008, 12:32 AM
At any rate, there is no time limit on science and it's probably best left un-rushed.


I would very much appreciate it if you would tell that to RedIbis and anyone else who is so antsy about the release of NIST's WTC7 report.