Anyone has some info regarding this alleged "sunken ruins"?

[Correa Neto]

Don´t know if its in the right forum (please accept my apologies if its not), since this also fits in the history forum.

Cleopatra´s recent thread on Atlantis reminded me of some stuff... The alleged submersed temple ("city" for some) off Japan, at Yonaguni Jima. I did some googling and found the usual woo-wooish stuff, but there wee some nice pics. The features do not look like collumnar joints but could have been generated by three intersecting fracture sets, and also there´s a map from the site that reminds me of a listric fault system, the "sunken temple" being at the top of it, where faults are steeper (what would help to explain the unsual shapes). However, some of the pictures give me an uneasy feeling (I know, this is no evidence for nothing).

Here are some of the less woo-wooish material.
http://www.morien-institute.org/interview1_MK.html
http://www.morien-institute.org/imk1.html#zu

Basically you´ll find pics of stones on weird patterns taken in crystal-clear water. Many pics clearly show natural features requiring the usual ammount of... interpretation... to see the alleged pattern (example, "the moai-like figure"), but others are a bit harder to explain (but not necessarily artificial). Oh, there´s also the usual claim of an age older than 10000 years. On a sidenote, they claim the site may not be completely artificial, but that men may have enhanced and modified its appearance.
Anyone has more recent news about this?
Thanks.

[Phrost]

There was a show on The Discovery Channel (I believe) not too long ago about this. I believe the conclusion the scientists came to was that it was a natural formation, based on the surrounding, above water landscape.

[Psiload]

Originally posted by Correa Neto
Don´t know if its in the right forum (please accept my apologies if its not), since this also fits in the history forum.

Cleopatra´s recent thread on Atlantis reminded me of some stuff... The alleged submersed temple ("city" for some) off Japan, at Yonaguni Jima. I did some googling and found the usual woo-wooish stuff, but there wee some nice pics. The features do not look like collumnar joints but could have been generated by three intersecting fracture sets, and also there´s a map from the site that reminds me of a listric fault system, the "sunken temple" being at the top of it, where faults are steeper (what would help to explain the unsual shapes). However, some of the pictures give me an uneasy feeling (I know, this is no evidence for nothing).

Here are some of the less woo-wooish material.
http://www.morien-institute.org/interview1_MK.html
http://www.morien-institute.org/imk1.html#zu

Basically you´ll find pics of stones on weird patterns taken in crystal-clear water. Many pics clearly show natural features requiring the usual ammount of... interpretation... to see the alleged pattern (example, "the moai-like figure"), but others are a bit harder to explain (but not necessarily artificial). Oh, there´s also the usual claim of an age older than 10000 years. On a sidenote, they claim the site may not be completely artificial, but that men may have enhanced and modified its appearance.
Anyone has more recent news about this?
Thanks.

We covered it pretty well in this thread:

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21641&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

[EvilYeti]

In my opinion, its a mostly natural formation that was modified a bit by a stone age society. Still very interesting and not the least bit "woo-woo".

[Correa Neto]

Thanks for the replys, but anyone has info regarding any scientific works in the area? Something that could really back or deny the claims?

[reprise]

Originally posted by Correa Neto
Thanks for the replys, but anyone has info regarding any scientific works in the area? Something that could really back or deny the claims?

Josh would know whether there's any credible archaelogical evidence from the area. I suspect it won't take him too long to find this thread.

[Eos of the Eons]

Hey! Aliens! Aliens! Aliens!

http://www.bihou.com/iseki/tategami/tategami_010.jpg


Heh, them aliens really are sophisticated builders ;)





http://www.bihou.com/iseki/appa/kame_004.jpg


Must be they let their kids make this here very artistic and detailed turtle! It's a snapping turtle, really!

[EvilYeti]

Some more interesting pics from a Discovery channel sponsored expedition.

http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/catbox-yona-face1.jpg

http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/catbox-yona-face2.jpg

[Checkmite]

The submarine site at Yonaguni Jima was officially "discovered" in 1986, and a subsequent study was conducted by the University of the Ryukyus. The study revealed what could reasonably be interpreted as the work of a civilization with stone-carving skills. This civilization appeared to have used stone work to form very basic edifices; things like streets and possible temples, and large statues here and there, that sort of thing.

Though many photos have been taken and "interpreted" by everyone, the University of the Ryukyus' study was never independently confirmed, nor to my knowledge has any other study been conducted by any other credible entity. Now, the site has been left to tourists and divers to run around and destroy.

If the study is accurate, there is no indication of any "advanced" technology having been used in the creation of this thing. Surely, the type of stone work apparently applied here could fairly be called "advanced" for its age; but nothing del woo is in evidence. It's a very old sunken building.

No, it is not Atlantis.

[Correa Neto]

OK, thanks.

So, it seems it´ll keep the current "can either be or not be artificial" status.

I know its not Atlantis, I just remembered it after looking at Celopatra´s thread. "If its not on the Atlantic ocean, if its not at least 10000 years old, its not Atlantis".

BTW, I know where Atlantis is, but I am forbidden by my secret esoteric order to tell the exact location. However, I can provide fragments of the original Atlantean crystal, allowing everyone to share the lost spiritual inheritage from the atlanteans. The fragments come at a small cost, but just the ammount of money required to cover the expenses of our expeditions.:roll: