Halloweenie

[triadboy]

Thought you might find this interesting:

I got an email today about a school party on Oct 31 - it is called a Harvest Party. It is not politically correct to say 'Halloween' anymore.

This is obviously an xian edict.

Weren't they the ones bitching about 'Christmas Parties' being changed to 'Holiday Parties'?

Perhaps this is their way of getting back at you satanic bastards! "Well, we'll just screw up your holiday then!"

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by triadboy
I got an email today about a school party on Oct 31 - it is called a Harvest Party. It is not politically correct to say 'Halloween' anymore.That is interesting. Harvest Party sounds almost pegan to me.

Strange bedfellows.

[Brown]

I prefer "Harvest Party" to what it really is: "Candy-Eating Orgy."

[triadboy]

Of course, we all know xian children who aren't allowed to participate in Halloween, because of the satanic implications. Now that it's called a Harvest Party, they can play. They ARE allowed to dress up too, but only as Jan Crouch.

[Yahweh]

"Harvest Party"?

If this isnt a joke, its obviously the work of the same group of idiots who refuse to let their kids Trick or Treat on Sundays.

In any case, I'll be dressing in a pair of black pants, black hood, and put on a pair of KITTY EARS! Because that's what us heathens do....

[Brown]

Actually, I don't think the kids would care whether the holiday was called "Halloween" or "Harvest Fest" or "Costume Day" or "Trick or Treat Night" or anything else; they just like to carve pumpkins, dress up, eat candy and have fun.

To my knowledge, the "having fun" aspect has never included worship of any evil beings of any kind.

[Marquis de Carabas]

To my knowledge, the "having fun" aspect has never included worship of any evil beings of any kind.
I'm not so sure. The peanut m&m in those commercials always seemed to have a sinister edge to me.

[shemp]

Originally posted by Upchurch
That is interesting. Harvest Party sounds almost pegan to me.

Strange bedfellows.

Is a "pegan" a pagan vegan?

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Brown
Actually, I don't think the kids would care whether the holiday was called "Halloween" or "Harvest Fest" or "Costume Day" or "Trick or Treat Night" or anything else; they just like to carve pumpkins, dress up, eat candy and have fun.

To my knowledge, the "having fun" aspect has never included worship of any evil beings of any kind.

I don't remember who was supposed to have said it, but I remember hearing a quote defining purtianism as "the paralyzing fear that someone, somewhere may be having a good time"

[Marquis de Carabas]

H L Mencken

[triadboy]

Landover Baptist is having fun with Halloween

[MoeFaux]

Hey, our school & church had Harvest Festivities. I was one of the lucky kids that actually got to trick-or-treat and wear costume. Some of the other kids in my class weren't as lucky.

Disgusting, isn't it?

[triadboy]

I trick or treated throughout the 60's and I don't ever remember kids forbidden to T or T because of satan. Is this a new thing?

[MoeFaux]

Originally posted by triadboy
I trick or treated throughout the 60's and I don't ever remember kids forbidden to T or T because of satan. Is this a new thing?

I grew up in a very confining church. Seventh-day Adventistism was just plagerised (word for word is some places) from the Mormans. So it was wacky. That's the way it had always been for Halloween.

[evildave]

Candy eatin' orgy?

Isn't that Christmas & Easter, too?

At least for Halloween, you have to walk for it. Though some kids are ferried around in cars.

[neutrino_cannon]

Originally posted by evildave
Candy eatin' orgy?

Isn't that Christmas & Easter, too?

At least for Halloween, you have to walk for it. Though some kids are ferried around in cars.

"Motorized Divisions"

My father steadfastly refuses to participate in any celebration of any sort. Even his birthday can go by unoticed, and if nobody calls, nobody notices until several wees later.

His intake of sugar is like that of a wolf, i.e. none at all. I've never seen him buy anything sweet, unless it was sweet coinicidentally, like apples. He seems to live, left to his own devices on a diet of stew and clili, with some tacos and other random stuff thrown in.

He's essentially managed to turn "bah, humbug" into a philosophy, as well as a way of life. Perhaps this is why he's as much of an influence on me as he is.

I had a teacher once who said halloween was her favorite holiday, because it is pagan. Halloween parties were elaborate and intoxicating. Turns out sugar is plenty potent before you ferment it, especially when mixed with general hysteria.

[Agammamon]

Originally posted by evildave
Candy eatin' orgy?

Isn't that Christmas & Easter, too?

At least for Halloween, you have to walk for it. Though some kids are ferried around in cars.

It sounds better if you call them Easter, Halloween, and Christmas. Candy eating orgy I, II, and III don't have quite the same ring to them.

[Dancing David]

the reason we have the modern holiday is that in our protestant society halloween was the 'devil's night', all those chrsitian ejoyed being evil so much that they thought it might harm war production during WWII. So they hauled out the best part of new years and added candy.

I like the day the of the dead

[triadboy]

Originally posted by Agammamon
It sounds better if you call them Easter, Halloween, and Christmas. Candy eating orgy I, II, and III don't have quite the same ring to them.

As mentioned earlier:

A school Halloween party is now called a Harvest Party

A school Christmas party is now called a Holiday Party

What should we call a school Easter party?

Hanging party?
Holy Pinata party?
Lynchin' party?
Jesus-on-a-stick party?
"We know not what we do" party?
"Let's all get nailed" party?


It's going to have to change to something.

[LW]

Originally posted by triadboy

I got an email today about a school party on Oct 31 - it is called a Harvest Party. It is not politically correct to say 'Halloween' anymore.

This is obviously an xian edict.

I don't see anything obvious in that since "Halloween" is a contraction of "All Hallows Eve" and "Hallow" is an old word meaning "Saint". The OED puts earliest written use of "hallow" in his sense to 885. This predates the word "Halloween" by roughly 500 years.

I would say that "Harvest Party" is much more pagan than "Halloween".

[nightwind]

Ha, yea I remember when I was in school we always had a "Halloween Carnival". They were a blast, with all kinds of games, folks dressed up like ghosts, witches, etc. It also is a real money maker for the Parent Teacher Assoc.

Well now, it has evolved into a "Harvest Festival", and you are not supposed to wear anything "scary". But you can dress, like a cowboy, cartoon character, or other non-spooky creature.

This was done a few years ago to pacify complaints from religious conservatives who said that this would inspire everyone to turn to the darkside, or something like that.

It is amazing to me with all of the true evil in the world, that anyone could perceive these carnivals, trick-or-treating, etc. as being some kind of evil.

I know I always participated just to have fun, and never thought I would become possessed by demons because of it.

But gosh, I am from a very conservative part of Texas, and we are a little weird, and sometimes over react to relatively harmless activities.

[triadboy]

Originally posted by LW


I don't see anything obvious in that since "Halloween" is a contraction of "All Hallows Eve" and "Hallow" is an old word meaning "Saint". The OED puts earliest written use of "hallow" in his sense to 885. This predates the word "Halloween" by roughly 500 years.

I would say that "Harvest Party" is much more pagan than "Halloween".

Agree, LW. But over here in the states, the puritanical faction deems Halloween as some kind of satanic celebration - the devils night. I don't want to give you the impression that it's that way all over the states, but lately I've encounter children who aren't allowed to go trick-or-treating because their parents are offended by the fun the children are having. Changing the name to Harvest party is an attempt to replace Halloween. Everyone is correct - it is rather pagan, but only because it is referring to nature - Mother Earth.

[whitefork]

There are four great seasonal holidays, for the quartering of the year, I think, in addition to the solstices and equinoxes, and they're suppose to be of ancient provenance:

Walpurgisnacht (Beltane) - April 30
Candlemas - February 2 (now mostly remembered as Ground Hog Day)
Hallowe'en - October 31
Lughnasadh - July 31/August 1

I think they've been pretty well co-opted by various Christian or Catholic feast days.

Tricky would probably have better information. Hallowe'en just happens to be the most popular.

We used to do a Maypole dance back in elementary school. I'm sure it's very phallic and obscene if done correctly.