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kittynh
6th October 2003, 07:47 PM
I read this and my Scottish relatives aren't in ( I called), so what does this mean?
"A whang off a cut kebbuck's never missed"
or "Mony tynes the half amrk whinger."
Ed
8th October 2003, 05:56 AM
Simple, to a polyglot such as myself
Originally posted by kittynh
I read this and my Scottish relatives aren't in ( I called), so what does this mean?
"A whang off a cut kebbuck's never missed"
We will never return the Elgin Marbles
or "Mony tynes the half amrk whinger."
It's the fault of the Jews
I am always happy to help.
Ed
8th October 2003, 06:11 AM
To be more specific:
"A whang"
An old scots term meaning "a marble component of a structure"
"off a cut kebbuck's"
"Kebbuck refers to any ancient edifice, particularly Greek, constructed prior to 100 BCE.
"never missed"
In this context this means "their opinions are irrelevant"
My translation is loose, but accurate.
or "Mony tynes the half amrk whinger."
"Mony tynes" is a rude neologism referring to "Money Times" (A supposed Jewish financial daily) which is an epithet for "Jews"
"half" (properly "hallrf") "amrk whinger"
This is an ancient phrase that refers to Debra winger "doing" Richard Gere in "Officer and a Gentleman". The past tense is implied. This is a paricularly interesting quote inasmuch as Debra (as you know) is Jewish herself. This gives the phrase more emphasis.
Hope this helps.
Incidentially, be sure to check my translations with your relatives.:roll:
Mendor
8th October 2003, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by kittynh
I read this and my Scottish relatives aren't in ( I called), so what does this mean?
"A whang off a cut kebbuck's never missed"
or "Mony tynes the half amrk whinger." A thocht ye wis Scottish yersel, kittynh?
A dinna ken whit they micht mean; mebbe this wabsteid (http://www.scots-online.org/) wul help.
editit acause it seems A can mak a spellin mistak even in Scots...
Ed
8th October 2003, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by Mendor
A thocht ye wis Scottish yersel, kittynh?
A dinna ken whit they micht mean; mebbe this wabsteid (http://www.scots-online.org/) wul help.
editit acause it seems A can mak a spellin mistak even in Scots...
Are you suggesting that I was wrong?
Mendor
8th October 2003, 08:07 AM
Whitiver gave ye that idea? I widna daur suggest that a god sic as yersel got oniething wrang.
Ed
8th October 2003, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by Mendor
Whitiver gave ye that idea? I widna daur suggest that a god sic as yersel got oniething wrang.
Wee sleekit, cow'rin, tim'rous beastie.
One of the best lines.
Soapy Sam
8th October 2003, 05:16 PM
Kittynh-
I think it means your medication is out of kilter.
Have you been overdoing it again?:D
kittynh
8th October 2003, 06:58 PM
When I read it on Oxycotin it made sense:confused:
UnrepentantSinner
9th October 2003, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by kittynh
When I read it on Oxycotin it made sense:confused:
Yes, well, while on Oxycontin, Rush Limbaugh thought he made sense.
Wudang
16th October 2003, 05:34 AM
Originally posted by kittynh
I read this and my Scottish relatives aren't in ( I called), so what does this mean?
"A whang off a cut kebbuck's never missed"
or "Mony tynes the half amrk whinger."
A slice from a cut (wheel of) cheese is never missed.
The second seems a bit garbled. A whinger is a knife btw.
mummymonkey
16th October 2003, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by Wudang
A slice from a cut (wheel of) cheese is never missed.
The second seems a bit garbled. A whinger is a knife btw.
The full proverb is:
Many tines the half-mark whinger for the half-penny whang
If you said that to somebody in Scotland today you'd probably get a smack in the mouth. Just in case.
Wudang
16th October 2003, 09:28 AM
Cheers, hadn't heard that before. Is that Ivor Cutler in your avatar?
mummymonkey
16th October 2003, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Wudang
Cheers, hadn't heard that before. Is that Ivor Cutler in your avatar?
Yes, it is.
Melissa Johnson
16th October 2003, 10:06 AM
What's a geordie boy? Mark Knopfler mentions that in "Sailing to Philadelphia". Just curious. Might not have anything to do with Scotland...
Mendor
17th October 2003, 11:55 AM
Someone from Newcastle. Nothing to do with Scotland, but close enough.
Peter Jenkins
17th October 2003, 12:14 PM
Jeremiah Mason (one of the surveyors of the Mason-Dixon Line) was from Newcastle, ie, a geordie.
the Song 'Sailing to Philladelphia' says:
I am Jeremiah Dixon
I am a Geordie boy
A glass of wine with you, sir
And the ladies I'll enjoy
All Durham and Northumberland
Is measured up by my own hand
Northumberland is the northernmost county of England, just above County Durham.
Charles Mason was from Dorset:
He calls me Charlie Mason
A stargazer am I
It seems that I was born
To chart the evening sky
They'd cut me out for baking bread
But I had other dreams instead
This baker's boy from the west country
Would join the Royal Society...
Peter
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