Hollow Earth and we're on the inside

[NikZeta302]

Considering how the majority of the threads are on 9/11, I decided to look for something more obscure and less evil but more crazy. I present Inside-Out Hollow Earthers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyJ00BxBpIs

[Confuseling]

Reported as spam. That one's actually true.

[JonathanClement]

You know, it's video's like this that kill my faith in humanity... -_-

[Minadin]

Sounds a lot like a Dyson Sphere (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Dyson_Sphere).

[timhau]

To echo the comment that was most recent when I clicked the link: That is the most retarded video I've ever seen.

[uk_dave]

Sounds a lot like a Dyson Sphere (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Dyson_Sphere).

You mean one of these:

http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

[Alareth]

Sounds a lot like a Dyson Sphere (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Dyson_Sphere).

Yeah, but that would be really cool and scientific, not all crazy and insane.

[mrbaracuda]

So there's stars inside the earth? Cool.

[Minadin]

No! when you look up into the nights sky and see "stars" it's actually just the normal city lights from across the globe. I guess the constellations are major cities or something? Kinda makes you wonder about all the references to stars in literature that pre-dates Tom Edison, but I suppose that's another conspiracy altogether.

[Brainache]

I didn't watch the video. Do they say how when the astronauts went to the moon, instead of going a long way away they just got really really small?

[JonathanClement]

The guy who made that video... He's making comments on my video now:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=VzG3zb79rw8

what´s that ? it is not even a original picture... it´s just some crap for deconverted still- believers. if you tell people, that the bible teaches, that the earth is 6000 years old, they become shocked, because they always thought that god is huge. you know what you did ? you changed over to a "bigger god". that´s even worse, than being a christian. it is like being a muslim or mormon

My reply:
The hell are you talking about? What does have to do with this video?

Him:
because it´s xxxL creationism, and it has nothing to do how the universe looks like. you just say look how fat it is... that´s just brainwashed
I'm not even going to try and debate with this guy. It would just be a waste of my time and it would be trivial to do.


Me:
...Whatever... You keep believing that... Have fun living in your paranoid, incoherent, schizophrenic fantasies...

You know, sometimes I feel like committing suicide when I see how... Insane people can be...

[Babylon Sister]

I didn't watch the video. Do they say how when the astronauts went to the moon, instead of going a long way away they just got really really small?

OT but in the same vein, my ex-husband's grandmother was certain no one had gone to the moon because "It's too small to stand on."

[Travis]

How does one explain something like....oh the horizon if we are on the inside of a sphere?

[mrbaracuda]

No! when you look up into the nights sky and see "stars" it's actually just the normal city lights from across the globe. I guess the constellations are major cities or something? Kinda makes you wonder about all the references to stars in literature that pre-dates Tom Edison, but I suppose that's another conspiracy altogether.

Ah yes, now it makes all sense! Thank you, Minadin! :boxedin:

[Alferd_Packer]

Sounds a lot like a Dyson Sphere (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Dyson_Sphere).


That plot summary is almost as stupid as the OP.

The interior of the sphere would absorb the entire energy output of that star . . . As no radiant sunlight or solar wind escaped from the sphere, starships were not able to detect it until they were almost on top of it.

Am I the only one that sees the inherent stupidity in this?

[ElMondoHummus]

OMG!... Something that makes chemtrailers look tame by comparison.

[Graham2001]

How does one explain something like....oh the horizon if we are on the inside of a sphere?

Special (http://www.lhup.edu/%7Edsimanek/hollow/morrow.htm) physics.;)

BTW this is pretty old stuff (http://www.lhup.edu/%7Edsimanek/hollow/tamarack.htm), some NAZI's believed it. Back in '33 Von Braun got some of his rocket funding from the Mayor(?) of Magdeburg who believed that if a rocket was launched straight up it would land in Australia.

Von Braun built the rocket, but in the event it took off sideways and demolished a barn.

Later on Hitler is supposed to have sent a party to the island of Rugen with telescopes to take photographs of the English fleet in port. This was to be done by pointing the telescopes into the sky at a 45º angle.

[chillzero]

Not a conspiracy theory - moved

[krelnik]

Wasn't this a bad third-season Star Trek episode (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_World_Is_Hollow_and_I_Have_Touched_the_Sky )?

Yes, yes it was. You can even watch it online here (http://www.cbs.com/classics/star_trek/video/video.php?cid=649548575&pid=EP5J_V0CnV_Lk0LcG7lFARlFZ3Wbwu0V&play=true&cc=2).

[quarky]

Once i was looking at the moon with my 4 year old neice, and I asked her how big she thought the moon was. She replied that she thought it was really big. Like, as big as a car.

I thought this was surprising, as it looked no bigger than a Necco wafer.

Back on topic:

It would be cool to have a hollow planet.
If we ever make an artificial planet, I'd bet it will be hollow.

[I Ratant]

ERB's series of novels on Pellucidar had outer-surface folks encountering those on the inner surface.
Lots of voluptuous babes for the rugged handsome innovative survivor type adventurers. And evil stereotypical bad guys of the reiligious stripe and animules to fend off while chasing tail.
The Pellucidarans didn't know they were on the inside.
Gravity, that was handled by Burrough's rejiggering of Newton.. the "center of gravity" was -distributed in the crust between the inner and outer surfaces, so that everyone's feet pointed to the ground.

[Civilized Worm]

The inside hollow earth theory is one of my favourite loony beliefs. It actually had a bit of a following back in the day which Martin Gardner talks about in Fads & Fallacies.

[dudalb]

Then there is the variation on the theory being preached by Neal Adams, who has sadly quit being a superb Comic book artist/writer,(possibly the best Batman artist ever) to make a fool of himself peddling Hollow Earth woo.

[dudalb]

ERB's series of novels on Pellucidar had outer-surface folks encountering those on the inner surface.
Lots of voluptuous babes for the rugged handsome innovative survivor type adventurers. And evil stereotypical bad guys of the reiligious stripe and animules to fend off while chasing tail.
The Pellucidarans didn't know they were on the inside.
Gravity, that was handled by Burrough's rejiggering of Newton.. the "center of gravity" was -distributed in the crust between the inner and outer surfaces, so that everyone's feet pointed to the ground.

Yeah,but Burroughs would have laughed his head off at anybody taking the Hollow Earth seriously.
And,yeah, I did enjoy the Pellucidar novels quite a bit.Not as good as the best of the John Carter Of Mars or the Tarzan series,but a fun read all the same.

[Zeuzzz]

The Earth is hollow? :)

So is this guys head, who owns the 'hollow earth journal'!

http://www.hollowplanets.com/journal/Seismic01.asp

Let me show you how my Hollow Planet seismic model can explain the Earth's seismology better than the existing solid Earth seismic model - and yet not one person at any university has shown the slightest interest in this. [...]


Yes, and for some reason no university has payed any attention to my theory that the Moon is actually just a ball of phlegm from the mouth of a giant mutant space goat. :D

Amazingly, some scientists seem to take this seriously. Dr Tom Van Flandern (I use the word scientist in the loosest possible sense) reviewed the above persons work: 'For merelly showing that the inferred density of Earths interior is not a unique solution for the seismic data - an important constraint for theoreticians working in this area - the book has already made itself worthwhile.' :jaw-dropp

I dont think that they believe it themselves, I think that people who advocate these sort of ideas just like the intellectual challenge of trying to prove something that is obviously wrong from the outset, much like the members of the flat earth society that spend their time internet annoying the hell out of scientists with their ideas. The only people that really believed this were the NAZI's, and that tells you something. I might try this out in future if someone is really annoying me, I can see how annoying this would be to argue against if they had their own seismological interpretation :)

[Don At Work]

The Earth is hollow? :)

I dont think that they believe it themselves, I think that people who advocate these sort of ideas just like the intellectual challenge of trying to prove something that is obviously wrong from the outset, much like the members of the flat earth society that spend their time internet annoying the hell out of scientists with their ideas. The only people that really believed this were the NAZI's, and that tells you something. I might try this out in future if someone is really annoying me, I can see how annoying this would be to argue against if they had their own seismological interpretation :)

Can you name that logical fallacy? :book:

[dudalb]

Can you name that logical fallacy? :book:


I can;t name the precise one, but the whole "only Nazis believed in a Hollow Earth" sure is one,considering that the Hollow Earth theory was around a long time before the Nazi party came into existence.

[jimbob]

Wasn't this a bad third-season Star Trek episode (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_World_Is_Hollow_and_I_Have_Touched_the_Sky )?

Yes, yes it was. You can even watch it online here (http://www.cbs.com/classics/star_trek/video/video.php?cid=649548575&pid=EP5J_V0CnV_Lk0LcG7lFARlFZ3Wbwu0V&play=true&cc=2).

That sounds like Harry Harrison's Captive universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_Universe)

I can't see anyone mentioning Cyrus Teed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_Teed) yet...

The laws of Optics "explain" why we think we can see the stars :asplode:

[Zeuzzz]

I can;t name the precise one, but the whole "only Nazis believed in a Hollow Earth" sure is one,considering that the Hollow Earth theory was around a long time before the Nazi party came into existence.


I just read that NAZI's were the only people to actually go and look for it at the north pole. That and Admiral byrds mission I just stumbled across online, where he claimed to see NAZI ufo's at the north pole and to have entered the inner Earth. This just keeps getting wierder and wierder. :eye-poppi

http://www.jstor.org/pss/985350
Admiral Bird's diary and log (http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=174942&Disp=5)

[Zeuzzz]

Can you name that logical fallacy? :book:


Guilt By Association?

[Wauthan]

I'm almost sorry this thread got moved from the conspiracy forum. This guy must feel like the entire world is insane and he's the only one who's knows the truth. :boggled:

Sometimes I regret the invention of the Internet. When I was a kid I thought stories about Hollow Earthers were just some crazy urban myth. Guess I should have been more skeptical about my skepticality.

[Zeuzzz]

Discovery channel did a documentary on the hollow earth. Apparently caving legislation is put in place by the govenment to stop people discovering the holow cavities inside the Earth. :rolleyes:

Check it out!

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I want to believe :D

[skeptical]

Considering how the majority of the threads are on 9/11, I decided to look for something more obscure and less evil but more crazy. I present Inside-Out Hollow Earthers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyJ00BxBpIs

That is just silly. Everyone knows the earth is flat and surrounded by a dome as described in the book of Enoch. ;)


http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_1555348177b2009dbe.gif (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11953)

[Confuseling]

That is just silly. Everyone knows the earth is flat and surrounded by a dome as described in the book of Enoch. ;)


http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_1555348177b2009dbe.gif (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=11953)

You're very clever, young man, but it's no use - it's turtles all the way down.

[I Ratant]

The Earth is hollow? :)

...
Amazingly, some scientists seem to take this seriously. Dr Tom Van Flandern (I use the word scientist in the loosest possible sense) reviewed the above persons work: 'For merelly showing that the inferred density of Earths interior is not a unique solution for the seismic data - an important constraint for theoreticians working in this area - the book has already made itself worthwhile.' :jaw-dropp

...
Tom Van Flandern was a regular on Compuserve's Astronomy forum. I enjoyed talking to him.
He's also a proponent of the "graviton" theory explaining gravity. Instead of "force at a distance", gravitons are super-luminal particles coming in from every possible direction. The masses of things like the earth retard their speed, so that those coming in from above have a greater influence on keeping the feet on the ground than those coming in from the other side of the earth which tend to push the feet off the ground.
OK, I guess that's remotely plausible. :)
There was a perfectly awful couple of movies made about Pellucidar, I think in Italy.. a spaghetti space opera. The only redeeming feature was Playmate Rebecca Ferrati playing the tail being chased all over by the hero.
She had several quite redeeming features, if not acting ability. :drool:

[m_huber]

Possibly my favorite wacky belief. A delightful read on the subject by David Standish (http://www.amazon.com/Hollow-Earth-Imagining-Fantastical-Civilizations/dp/0306815338/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1209505133&sr=8-1).

There was one entirely reasonable hollow earth theory that was based on good evidence. Sir Edmund Halley, of Halley's comet, noted the shift in magnetic declination on the surface of the earth, and he surmised that there must be a source of the magnetic field that moved independently of the surface. Thus, he postulated a hollow earth, with a magnetic ball in the center that was repelled by magnetic force from the edges of the earth, and also kept the surface from caving in by magnetic repulsion. For a man in the 1600's, I find that incredibly clever, and part of that hypothesis is mainstream science now. Of course, he then went on to postulate that the inner sphere must be populated, as God would not want to waste the space... But good job on the core, anyway!

[Tweeter]

Discovery channel did a documentary on the hollow earth. Apparently caving legislation is put in place by the govenment to stop people discovering the holow cavities inside the Earth. :rolleyes:

Check it out

I want to believe :D


Not caves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaTDeB7Ax3g