What happened to Louder Than Words?

[Undesired Walrus]

I quite liked the title sequence of Loose Change: Final Cut, but found it daft and terribly ego-centric (With a false sense of 'anger' in Avery's voice, a narration he stupidly litters with phrases such as 'Let me get this straight') after that stage.

That said, I'm suprised it didn't get any notice whatsoever.

Any news about what happened to Avery, Bermas and co?

[Stellafane]

Not sure, but whatever it is, it isn't making Avery any more popular (http://amiannoying.com/(S(ixqb5355r2f2jz45cdlzvl55))/ranking.aspx). That's him in 80th place on the "Most Annoying" list, right behind Josef Stalin and Bill Belichick(!) and just ahead of such worthies as Tim McVeigh, Pamela Smart, and (ironically enough) Zacarias Moussaoui.

[Brainster]

I quite liked the title sequence of Loose Change: Final Cut, but found it daft and terribly ego-centric (With a false sense of 'anger' in Avery's voice, a narration he stupidly litters with phrases such as 'Let me get this straight') after that stage.

That said, I'm suprised it didn't get any notice whatsoever.

Any news about what happened to Avery, Bermas and co?

Dylan's out in San Diego now (http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/2008/04/soaking-it-in.html), supposedly working on the screenplay for his first major motion picture (probably featuring scenes that start with the line "Hi, ma'am, I'm here to clean your pool."). I believe Jason and Korey are still in Oneonta. Jason is supposedly working on his own movie and still has his radio show on GCN.

[Stellafane]

Dylan's out in San Diego now (http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/2008/04/soaking-it-in.html), supposedly working on the screenplay for his first major motion picture (probably featuring scenes that start with the line "Hi, ma'am, I'm here to clean your pool."). I believe Jason and Korey are still in Oneonta. Jason is supposedly working on his own movie and still has his radio show on GCN.


In other words, none of them is doing a freaking thing.

[Undesired Walrus]

Hmm, Josef Fritzl is in the top 10..

I didn't really realise he was an annoying person. Just a psychotic vision of pure evil.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Not sure, but whatever it is, it isn't making Avery any more popular (http://amiannoying.com/(S(ixqb5355r2f2jz45cdlzvl55))/ranking.aspx). That's him in 80th place on the "Most Annoying" list, right behind Josef Stalin and Bill Belichick(!) and just ahead of such worthies as Tim McVeigh, Pamela Smart, and (ironically enough) Zacarias Moussaoui.

This is interesting, three of the top ten Least Annoying are Law & Order actors.

Conspiracy? ;)

[realitybites]

Not sure, but whatever it is, it isn't making Avery any more popular (http://amiannoying.com/(S(ixqb5355r2f2jz45cdlzvl55))/ranking.aspx). That's him in 80th place on the "Most Annoying" list, right behind Josef Stalin and Bill Belichick(!) and just ahead of such worthies as Tim McVeigh, Pamela Smart, and (ironically enough) Zacarias Moussaoui.

He's more annoying than Ryan Seacrest, Ashlee Simpson, and... wait for it...

... Hezbollah.

[VespaGuy]

From Dylan's Blog:

TruthStock 2008 went extremely well, in my eyes. We managed to half-pack a 800-seat auditorium at San Diego State University. Here's footage of some of the turnout:

Half-packed? Uh, not according to the footage. Not that Dylan would ever exaggerate...

Back to the blog:

And I'm working on two big projects. One, I cannot really discuss, only because my associate and I are still planning it, but as far as we can tell, it has massive potential.

Can't discuss it? Massive potential? Is there anyone out there still falling for this stuff? How many times can Dylan play the "hype" card, produce nothing, and still get Truthers to bite?

From a previous post in the blog:

The fine folks down at SMT Studios have been spending their free time and energy remixing the movie into Dolby 5.1 Surround. In the meantime, we've made some minor cuts here and there to speed up the film a bit, corrected the embarrassing spelling mistake in the credits, and fixed a few other goofs here and there. We're hoping to have it done and mastered as soon as possible.

So does this make it Loose Change: Final Cut: Second Edition?

From an even earlier blog post (3/20/08):

Despite what the aforementioned toolboxes would like you to believe, the movement continues to grow,
::snicker::
and LCFC continues to spread across the country and across the world.
::giggle::
International distributors are slowly lining up, and domestic ones are still being pursued.
Now where have we heard that before, Dylan? We're all holding our breath.

There are a number of events coming up that we will be present for, but, this is where you come in: If you are hosting any kind of event, small or large, LET US KNOW. We want to publicize it and help you get as many people in the door as possible.

Translation: "We're desperate for a gig!! Nobody is coming to our screenings, so we want to hijack your event."

And I'm writing and directing my first feature film this year, thanks to interest and support from a major company that shall remain nameless at this point.

Oh Dylan... nobody, save a few morons, falls for your "nameless major company" routine.

Looks like the boy who cried "9/11" is still up to his old tricks.

[Stellafane]

...Translation: "We're desperate for a gig!! Nobody is coming to our screenings, so we want to hijack your event."


This is so incredibly pathetic, I'm not sure Avery is even trying anymore. He's got all this cool stuff lined up, spearheading a growing global movement, working on a major feature film -- and yet if you're planning to show Loose Change to a handful (pardon the pun) of your fellow circle jerkers in your mom's basement, this Hollywood big shot and revolutionary icon wants you to LET HIM KNOW so he can drop all the stupendously important stuff he's doing and see if he can pack a few more lonely lost souls in there.

Dylan Avery: The biggest joke of the decade.

[OldTigerCub]

Dylan's out in San Diego now (http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/2008/04/soaking-it-in.html), supposedly working on the screenplay for his first major motion picture (probably featuring scenes that start with the line "Hi, ma'am, I'm here to clean your pool."). I believe Jason and Korey are still in Oneonta. Jason is supposedly working on his own movie and still has his radio show on GCN.

I thought that the Army snatched Korey up to make him finish his tour of duty!???? Is he out now??
Granted, I haven't paid as much attention to the LC boys lately; life is just too short to spend too much time following the antics of that bunch.

[gumboot]

Dylan's out in San Diego now (http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/2008/04/soaking-it-in.html), supposedly working on the screenplay for his first major motion picture


This alone proves he doesn't really believe anything in his film.

[8den]

This alone proves he doesn't really believe anything in his film.

Yeah cause Greg Pallast or John Pilger just gave up exposing extreme corruption to make their fight club meets pulp fiction feature, while Woodward and Bernstein quit when it got tough to work on that great american novel.

Dylan, hey if you've reading this, Schadenfreude* is rarly this sweet.


* This is a german word which means laughing at the misfortune of others, Dylan. You did that a lot. Payback is a bitch.

[LashL]

Here are some things that didn't happen as a result of Louder Than Words' silly little video: any of the predictions made in September 2007 over at the Loose With the Truth forum:


http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_11103482265588d636.png (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12085)
(Click to enlarge)

The last few claims are particularly hilarious. The demand for LCFC will be deafening!!111!! The momentum...will ripple globally!!111!
The [Bush] administration, like the walls of Jericho, will crumble!111!

[Unsecured Coins]

Here are some things that didn't happen as a result of Louder Than Words' silly little video: any of the predictions made in September 2007 over at the Loose With the Truth forum:


http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_11103482265588d636.png (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12085)
(Click to enlarge)

The last few claims are particularly hilarious. The demand for LCFC will be deafening!!111!! The momentum...will ripple globally!!111!
The [Bush] administration, like the walls of Jericho, will crumble!111!


yup.. it rippled
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/powers05/Movie3.jpg

[johnny karate]

Dylan's out in San Diego now (http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/2008/04/soaking-it-in.html), supposedly working on the screenplay for his first major motion picture

Someone should let Dylan know that the place where they actually make the major motion pictures is about two hours north. San Diego is to the film industry what the Truth Movement is to not assaulting girls in wheelchairs.

[LashL]

yup.. it rippled


:D

Yes, sort of like this rippled:

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11103482277619a56a.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12088)

[Pardalis]

This alone proves he doesn't really believe anything in his film.

Where can one go after revealing the biggest conspiracy in the history of the world?

Write a Hollywood script!

[Arus808]

Someone should let Dylan know that the place where they actually make the major motion pictures is about two hours north. San Diego is to the film industry what the Truth Movement is to not assaulting girls in wheelchairs.


beyond being a hop and a skip from the border, and films involving donkeys/horses and hookers; and Girls Gone Wild; San Diego is not a filming location for anything serious (unless they are planning another direct to video Bring It on Movie)

[Brainache]

I guess he has to be in San Diego because the evil Jews that run Hollywood are conspiring against him. Poor Dylan, when he was an internet celebrity he was hanging out with Charlie Sheen and meeting with big studio execs, but now that the party's over he's been left by the side of the road to fame like a forgotten bundle of last week's news. So sad. Too funny.

[Orphia Nay]

Didn't someone (Walter Ego?) post recently that he heard Alex Jones say Dylan, Jason & Korey are "broke and nearly homeless"?

* Orphia Nay goes off to do a search

[Orphia Nay]

It was Walter Ego, and it was "in debt and nearly homeless".

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3672042&postcount=33

Here's the phone call and the rant from AJ (first few minutes).

Edit: Did he say Avery, Bermas and Rowe are in debt and nearly homeless? :jaw-dropp

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Off to watch the vid now.

ETA: It's at just after the 2:10 minute mark.

Of course, since it's Alex Jones saying that, could it possibly be true? ;)

[Jonnyclueless]

I heard they changed their name to 'Quieter than hand signals'.

[bonavada]

I heard they changed their name to 'Quieter than hand signals'.

while working on something like this?

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BV

[CptColumbo]

And I'm writing and directing my first feature film this year, thanks to interest and support from a major company that shall remain nameless at this point.
So, the company has expressed so much interest and support that they don't want to be publicly associated with him?

Or is he afraid that the company would be spammed with thousands of e-mails telling them how full of [rule 10] he is?

Now what kind of jerks would harass people like that?

(IMO his former supporters would probably be the majority of those who would try to ruin his new gig.)

[jhunter1163]

Maybe they should change their name to "Mimes for 9/11 Truth".

[DaN K. StAnLeY]

Jason Bermas is going to be hosting the Alex Jones show for the next 3 days....I think we should all call with questions.......

I called yesterday and got him all flustered. It was funny as hell and I'm trying to get someone to post it on here because I'm computerly challenged...hehehe

[johnny karate]

So, the company has expressed so much interest and support that they don't want to be publicly associated with him?

Or is he afraid that the company would be spammed with thousands of e-mails telling them how full of [rule 10] he is?

Now what kind of jerks would harass people like that?

(IMO his former supporters would probably be the majority of those who would try to ruin his new gig.)

"And I'm writing and directing my first feature film this year, thanks to interest and support from a major company that shall remain nameless at this point" is actually Hollywood-speak for "I own a copy of Final Draft and a digital video camera, and I know a guy who knows a guy who works for a producer".

[Panoply_Prefect]

From Dylan's Blog:



Student Scholars for 911 truth (http://sst911.org/)? Whats next? Children to Scholars for 911 truth? Pets of Scholars for 911 truth?

[Bobert]

Not sure, but whatever it is, it isn't making Avery any more popular (http://amiannoying.com/(S(ixqb5355r2f2jz45cdlzvl55))/ranking.aspx). That's him in 80th place on the "Most Annoying" list, right behind Josef Stalin and Bill Belichick(!) and just ahead of such worthies as Tim McVeigh, Pamela Smart, and (ironically enough) Zacarias Moussaoui.

LOL Dylan is at 57!

[gumboot]

So, the company has expressed so much interest and support that they don't want to be publicly associated with him?


I've never in my life heard of a "major company" committing to a first time writer-director who hasn't even written a first draft.

[realitybites]

I've never in my life heard of a "major company" committing to a first time writer-director who hasn't even written a first draft.

"Major companies" on Planet X do it all the time.

You're just living in the wrong solar system.

[Jonnyclueless]

I would like to see a mime version of LC.

[Brainache]

Maybe "A Major Company" is the name of the company. Did you Duh Bunkas think of that? Huh? Didja?

OK I did a quick google search and didn't find such a company, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist!!!

[cyclonic]

What happened to Louder Than Words?

They are on the streets with cups begging for loose change.

[Bobert]

Korey has gone COMPLETELY INSANE!
In this video he talks about the chip that the NWO WILL PLANT in your arm (if you refuse you go to the FEMA camp). The hard drives they are working on implanting in our heads, and the fact that soon we will be able to broadcast our minds wireless and learn Spanish in a second.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3634801432278945026&hl=en
YOU REALLY DO HAVE TO WATCH THE VIDEO TO SEE HOW INSANE HE HAS BECOME!

[Brainache]

Korey has gone COMPLETELY INSANE!
In this video he talks about the chip that the NWO WILL PLANT in your arm (if you refuse you go to the FEMA camp). The hard drives they are working on implanting in our heads, and the fact that soon we will be able to broadcast our minds wireless and learn Spanish in a second.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3634801432278945026&hl=en
YOU REALLY DO HAVE TO WATCH THE VIDEO TO SEE HOW INSANE HE HAS BECOME!

Does this mean he is now "bucking for a section 8" like Corporal Klinger, but without the dress?

[Orphia Nay]

That reminds me of DJLegacy, a former LC Forum moderator. Last I heard of him, he was posting (or a mod) at a forum all about mind control chips.

And they say the truth will set you free...

[deep]

I quite liked the title sequence of Loose Change: Final Cut, but found it daft and terribly ego-centric (With a false sense of 'anger' in Avery's voice, a narration he stupidly litters with phrases such as 'Let me get this straight') after that stage.

That said, I'm suprised it didn't get any notice whatsoever.

Any news about what happened to Avery, Bermas and co?


His narration adhered to a certain form, and phrases like the one you quoted were part of that form. Your narrator doesn't always have to be an impartial observer - see any Michael Moore film for examples of that.

With regard to what Dylan has been up to - he's working on one or two new projects. He posted an update on 911blogger.com not too long ago. While you may believe that LC:FC didn't get any attention, it proved that Dylan is a capable filmmaker. That will usually open doors for you in the movie business.

[gumboot]

While you may believe that LC:FC didn't get any attention, it proved that Dylan is a capable filmmaker. That will usually open doors for you in the movie business.


Both of the above statements are untrue. Just thought I'd point that out. :)

[Brainache]

...
While you may believe that LC:FC didn't get any attention, it proved that Dylan is a capable filmmaker. That will usually open doors for you in the movie business.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Sorry, I've been drinking.

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

[Unsecured Coins]

Korey has gone COMPLETELY INSANE!
In this video he talks about the chip that the NWO WILL PLANT in your arm (if you refuse you go to the FEMA camp). The hard drives they are working on implanting in our heads, and the fact that soon we will be able to broadcast our minds wireless and learn Spanish in a second.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3634801432278945026&hl=en
YOU REALLY DO HAVE TO WATCH THE VIDEO TO SEE HOW INSANE HE HAS BECOME!

wait... I think I missed something. when martial law is enacted (aaaaaaaaany day now) and they send me... I mean the military... well, ok, they're gonna send me... out in the middle of the night, kicking in doors to get the truthers, moonbats, and other assorted ne'er-do-wells at gun point, round them up, throw them onto cattle cars and take them to the FEMA Happy Fun Time Quilt Making camp, they can refuse to go, and all we do is put a [foghorn] CHIP in their arm and they can leave?

If that is the case, I seriously have to wonder what kind of secret shadow organization I work for if we're going to treat all revolutionaries with kid gloves.

[Brainache]

wait... I think I missed something. when martial law is enacted (aaaaaaaaany day now) and they send me... I mean the military... well, ok, they're gonna send me... out in the middle of the night, kicking in doors to get the truthers, moonbats, and other assorted ne'er-do-wells at gun point, round them up, throw them onto cattle cars and take them to the FEMA Happy Fun Time Quilt Making camp, they can refuse to go, and all we do is put a [foghorn] CHIP in their arm and they can leave?

If that is the case, I seriously have to wonder what kind of secret shadow organization I work for if we're going to treat all revolutionaries with kid gloves.

It's all because those stupid founding fathers of your country refused to accept Christ as their saviour. If you guys had a state religion, this whole Tyranny thing would be sooooo much easier...

[Bobert]

Please keep in mind UC that the chip will balance your checkbook for you.
Oh ya and it gets you free drinks.

[mrbaracuda]

I don't dare to click that link! :boxedin:

[uk_dave]

Came across this recently, from the October 2006 edition of "Empire" magazine (a UK film mag), a feature on "Loose Change" as an accompaniment to Stone's "World Trade Center" film..........

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_122954834641a65549.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12294)

....The relevant paragraph at the end of the feature.....

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/122954834629d32408.bmp (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12293)

..... good job Dylan is not a man of his word!! (or maybe he is?) :D

[CHF]

Came across this recently, from the October 2006 edition of "Empire" magazine (a UK film mag), a feature on "Loose Change" as an accompaniment to Stone's "World Trade Center" film..........

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_122954834641a65549.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12294)

....The relevant paragraph at the end of the feature.....

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/122954834629d32408.bmp (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12293)

..... good job Dylan is not a man of his word!! (or maybe he is?) :D

What on earth caused such a dedicated twoof seeker to abandon ship before his mission of save the world was complete? It just doesn't make sense!

Did the NWO kill him and replace him with a body double that made a crappy Final Cut before dropping from sight? Hey man, prove it didn't happen!

[Stellafane]

...good job Dylan is not a man of his word!! (or maybe he is?) :D

Actually, Avery in this case is quite correct. "So as soon as these bastards are brought to justice, I can become a filmmaker." The bastards in question will never be "brought to justice' (as Avery defines it), and he will never be a filmmaker.

[Pardalis]

He'll be more comfortable in fiction, that's all he's done anyway.

Now as to if he could line up shots properly and direct real actors is another matter...

[uk_dave]

Did he ever state in Loose change just who the 'bastards' are?

[JAStewart]

Did anyone else not actually watch the Final Cut? I started and got both bored and highly unconvinced and after aboot 15 minutes I closed it.

[A W Smith]

and I thought Baltimore was weird

this bears repeating
http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/122954834629d32408.bmp

[Stellafane]

Did he ever state in Loose change just who the 'bastards' are?

I think that would be us. As in, "You killed my career -- YOU BASTARDS!!!"

[fullflavormenthol]

Avery wants to be a film maker. :rolleyes: This always got to me. Basically this kid couldn't get into the film school he wanted so he decided to make a fictional film about a 9-11 conspiracy, and then happened to believe it and made a powerpoint presentation rehashing all the best crap European anti-semites had to offer.

He wants to be a film maker...he wants to go to Sundance. This is just some kid who doesn't really want to tell a story, he doesn't want to express any sort of vision. No, he has dreams of walking the red carpet and dating super models. That isn't what film making is about, but if he holds true to his promise than he will have an excuse for never making it outside of google video.

On a personal note the double entendre that is the title Loose Change has always bugged me. Oh to let loose change...LOL really clever Avery. Art film title 101, use a glorified pun as the title of your documentary.

[Brainache]

I still say that the only hope Dylan has of becoming recognised as a documentary maker would be if he were to gather together all of that footage that he has of the LTW crew swanning around NY and hanging out together in Oneonta, their chats with Alex Jones and all those other nutjobs that he has associated himself with over the past few years and cut it down to about 52 mins.

He'd have to hire a voice-over artist and someone who knows something about writing documentaries, but I'm sure it would be possible to make an entertaining hour on the strange world of CTs.

Give it a title like: "My Life Down The Rabbit Hole" or "Too many Kooks..."

Of course it won't happen, because to do it properly he'd have to have a bit of integrity. Oh well.

[fitzgibbon]

Dylan continues to climb the chart.

Currently sitting in 37th spot, tied with Hezbollah and just .01% ahead of Al-Qaeda. The irony is priceless.