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Bobert

8th May 2008, 02:58 PM

This really is a soap opera.
911blogger has a poll asking
Do you believe the Pentagon Fly-Over Theory as proposed by the Pentacon team (CIT)?
http://www.911blogger.com/node/15478
Killtown starts a thread about this citing that blogger is censoring/attacking CIT.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/262297/1/#new
Ok so Killtown VS 911 blogger
But then the good wookie chimes in
Why all the pathetic baiting "Killtown"? And why is this BS tolerated here?
So now you have KT versus LCF

Then you have the attention seeking whore Craig chime in
Your plight as an anonymous 9/11 internet personality pushing speculative "theories" has nothing to do with us.

Stop trying to link the two.

So now you have CIT VS KT VS 911BLOGGER

Ok so Aldo decides to announce that he is backing away from the movement and even HIS OWN WORK!!!!
:eye-poppi:jaw-dropp:eye-poppi:jaw-dropp:eye-poppi:jaw-dropp
This is really sad. This is exactly part of the reason why I have withdrawn so much from this 'movement' and even my own work.

But of course the attention seeking whores Craig and Aldo have to pimp their work though.

This quote by Aldo hurt my brain reading it
The real operations that didn't involve planes crashing were the pentagon and shanksville, so they decided to offset it by creating disinfo about "no planes at the towers" so that way by the time real investigators/researchers found out what happened at Shanksville/Pentagon the sheer absurdity of "no planes at WTC" would have gained enough momentum that the brazen, unbelieveable, acts they pulled off in PA and VA would be linked to unbelievable(and rightly so)
theory of no planes at the towers,.

Of course all along CIT has said that there would be trials and yada yada yada. Aldo acknowledges that:
The only thing anyone, including you, should be concerned about is getting those witnesses in front of a congressional panel. The chips will fall where they may. I think the main concern would be whether or not the plane flew on the north side of the Citgo or not. We have done all the leg work and research for you on the pentagon. There is no need for theories any longer, all you have to do is take these interviews to your gov't represntative, know your stuff, and demand some action into this matter.
I guess Aldo now feels that hey CIT did all the legwork now the truth movement should bring the evidence forward?
Maybe Dom/TC can came come along and not answer the question.

Part 2 of this Soap Opera is CIT VS PRISON PLANET.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/259477/1/#new
I have already made this post pretty darn long so I wont bore you with all of the details BUT I do wonder if it is a bad idea for Craig to try and drive a spike between LTW and AJ given that Jason hosted AJ's show recently.

The jist is that Craig is crying like a baby about one of the mods over at PP.
Craig comes across as especially pathetic.

1337m4n

8th May 2008, 03:22 PM

Fight! Fight! Fight!

Drudgewire

8th May 2008, 03:26 PM

:catfight:

Bobert

8th May 2008, 03:33 PM

Do they not realize that they give us a wharehouse of ammo to use against them on a daily basis?
thank you sir can I have another?

OldTigerCub

8th May 2008, 03:53 PM

Do they not realize that they give us a wharehouse of ammo to use against them on a daily basis?
thank you sir can I have another?

Not to mention lots of LOL's and stundie material!:p

Reheat

8th May 2008, 04:10 PM

They don't really need to turn against each other, they are doing it to themselves. CIT's new release "The 2nd Plane Cover Story" has gotten ZERO (0) responses on both pffft and Above Top Secret.

I'd say they are not worthy of much attention anymore even in the troofer community (as if they ever were).

They all deserve each other!

SpitfireIX

8th May 2008, 04:12 PM

Fight! Fight! Fight!

:popcorn1 :popcorn1 :popcorn1

parky76

8th May 2008, 04:22 PM

abenja1

8th May 2008, 04:28 PM

Over at PP, there are message threads questioing if the Infowars board can be trusted. These truthers are off the deep end by miles.

NickUK

8th May 2008, 04:59 PM

Dear Truth Movement,

The coffin's well and truly closed, you can put the hammer down now.

parky76

8th May 2008, 05:01 PM

you know its over when they are doing our work for us.

CIA/Mossad/FBI/NWO.....Great Job!!!

NickUK

8th May 2008, 05:02 PM

Not content with just the one idiot thread - http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/263367/1/

gumboot

8th May 2008, 05:34 PM

When I imagine CIT (or any other truther "researcher") bringing their "evidence" to a congressional committee, I can't help but shake the image of a toddler proudly bringing their mother a biscuit made out of playdough...

"I made it 'specially for you mummy. All by meself"

Bobert

8th May 2008, 05:44 PM

I used to post over there, to get things going. Now they are just destroying themselves, and I dont have to post a thing.

Divide..and conquer. Our plan is working perfectly. Our agent provoceutur is doing his job well.

Cheers, mate.

Our operative has done his job well.
Soon there will no one to stand in our way.
The force is strong in this one!!!!!
MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

parky76

8th May 2008, 05:47 PM

Shhhhhhhh!!!!

They are hip to this thread. We must keep the indentity of our agent secret.

eromitlab

8th May 2008, 05:50 PM

Over at PP, there are message threads questioing if the Infowars board can be trusted. These truthers are off the deep end by miles.

Prisonplanet, suspicious of Infowars? That is awesome.

dudalb

8th May 2008, 06:00 PM

Then there was this on a Northwest Truthers Blog...

Millions of people around the world question the US Government's account of the event that "changed everything" and provided a permanent excuse for a global terror war and the destruction of our freedoms. Our voices are silenced by the established antiwar organizations and and even the so-called alternative media but we will be silenced no more. Join concerned citizens from Vancouver to San Diego as we converge in San Francisco for two days of action that are bound to make history!

So now the mainstream Antiwar Movement is in on the plot.
The "Truth Movement" is about to go Postal.

Bobert

8th May 2008, 06:32 PM

Not content with just the one idiot thread - http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/263367/1/

LOL Nice find Nick!
THAT IS THE GREATEST THREAD EVER!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!
:D

Bobert

8th May 2008, 06:42 PM

Shhhhhhhh!!!!

They are hip to this thread. We must keep the indentity of our agent secret.

Here is the scrambled message to pass on to our agent:
a;lag asgnabs absb;s n;xcoljb as;gfljabhw 80909 av;s bmre kW asvanmadb ;m asvasbmbmm!!!!!!!

Brainster

8th May 2008, 07:08 PM

Here's another example, from the NY We Are Changing Diapers crew. Since the video includes some profanity and is NSFW, I'll just provide the link to the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRj-S-Ktm5Y&eurl=http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/) rather than embed it. It's hilarious in parts.

OldTigerCub

8th May 2008, 07:26 PM

Shhhhhhhh!!!!

They are hip to this thread. We must keep the indentity of our agent secret.

Pssssst! Could you refresh my memory? Since I can't remember who the secret disinfo agent is......is it Killtown or Craig or Aldo?:confused:

beachnut

8th May 2008, 07:35 PM

What a bunch of dolts. How can they be so dumb? "they have proof it was a false flag"? How Alex Jones dumb-ed down stupid does it get? "They have proof 77 was north of the CITGO", what has happen to the meaning of an eye witness who said "parallel". Is the entire truth membership of LCF, geometry challenged super stupid at math? (please JFK guy, change your name, it is a disgrace; JFK never stood for such idiot statements)

My first graders show more maturity!

They talk as if a Pulitzer Prize was coming, but all they have is pure dirt dumb faulty conclusions; no one could botch up 9/11 more, if they were trying mess up everything; the Marx brothers of research and reality.

Drudgewire

8th May 2008, 07:40 PM

Pssssst! Could you refresh my memory? Since I can't remember who the secret disinfo agent is......is it Killtown or Craig or Aldo?:confused:

All three. http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/ssh.gif

ETA: OH :rule10 THAT DIDN'T GO TO HIS PM BOX!! :eek:

Bobert

8th May 2008, 07:51 PM

Now you have done it!
I hope you are proud!

StoneWT

8th May 2008, 08:03 PM

Bobert,

At least one of the posters in your 'part 2' link is an offending moderator at Alex Jones' forum.

fezzic

8th May 2008, 08:17 PM

Makes sense they are fighting, given that they have mutually exclusive (I will weasel and qualify that with "probably" as a preface:scared: ) theories the acceptance of any one would [generally or completely] invalidate the others.

I guess it shows that when heavily invested in a theory, especially when confirmatory evidence is lacking, it is hard to thoughtfully consider alternatives. /shrug

Bobert

8th May 2008, 08:52 PM

Bobert,

At least one of the posters in your 'part 2' link is an offending moderator at Alex Jones' forum.

Oh really?
I didnt know that.
Who is it?

StoneWT

8th May 2008, 10:20 PM

Eh, it's fairly easy to figure out if you pay attention to the snippets posted in here from LCF and Alex Jones' deal. I find it hilarious that the kid causing so much havoc is also posting in LCF as one of the boys.

CHF

8th May 2008, 10:50 PM

I don't know about the rest of you, but this is the main reason why I'm still hanging around on this 9/11 twoof nonsense.

Now that the TM has been crushed on all fronts it's time for the real fun to begin! :D

Twoofer civil war!

Granted, it's been raging for some time now but given the sorry state of the TM these days I'd say it's gonna get cranked up a few notches as people leave the movement, break off into their own sects, or argue over which disinfo agent stabbed the TM in the back.

If it wasn't for the risk of innocents being killed in the cross-fire I'd be giving these mental cases plenty of weapons.

Bobert

8th May 2008, 11:25 PM

I am betting Nico will be killing people at ground zero any day now.

OldTigerCub

8th May 2008, 11:28 PM

deep

8th May 2008, 11:39 PM

First of all, there are only a handful of people who would even know, or care, about any of this. This has nothing to do with the general public's perception of 9/11, and to suggest otherwise is patently absurd.

Second of all, I keep hearing that "the end is near" for the truth movement - you guys have been making that claim for at least the past year. Despite your claims, support for 9/11 truth has only grown, with the latest public show of support coming from Arizona state Senator Karen Johnson.

So the number of supporters is continuing to grow, with no signs of slowing down. The number of architects and engineers who support a new investigation is also continuing to grow, with no signs of slowing down.

So tell me, when should we expect that final "nail in the coffin"? Wouldn't the ae911truth.org member list (i.e., architect/engineer membership) stop growing before that can happen?

CHF

8th May 2008, 11:46 PM

Second of all, I keep hearing that "the end is near" for the truth movement - you guys have been making that claim for at least the past year. Despite your claims, support for 9/11 truth has only grown, with the latest public show of support coming from Arizona state Senator Karen Johnson.

So the number of supporters is continuing to grow, with no signs of slowing down. The number of architects and engineers who support a new investigation is also continuing to grow, with no signs of slowing down.

So tell me, when should we expect that final "nail in the coffin"? Wouldn't the ae911truth.org member list (i.e., architect/engineer membership) stop growing before that can happen?

Your rallies are pathetically small (and are getting smaller), your candidates get crushed, and your "experts" are few and have produced nothing.

That, sir, is a dead movement.

deep

9th May 2008, 12:17 AM

Your rallies are pathetically small (and are getting smaller), your candidates get crushed, and your "experts" are few and have produced nothing.

That, sir, is a dead movement.

For at least the 12th time, I'm not a member of the 9/11 truth movement.

Regarding experts "being few" and "producing nothing" - as I said before, ae911truth.org membership is growing at a steady rate. Stephen Jones just co-authored a paper that was peer-reviewed and published. So... what are you basing that claim on, exactly?

Regarding rallies and candidates - neither of those directly correlate to public opinion. Not everybody who believes in a certain cause is an activist for that cause.. and if people were choosing who to vote for based solely on how the candidates feel about 9/11, I would be very worried.

Arus808

9th May 2008, 12:43 AM

For at least the 12th time, I'm not a member of the 9/11 truth movement.
yet you dont mind parroting their asinine claims

stateofgrace

9th May 2008, 12:51 AM

So the number of supporters is continuing to grow, with no signs of slowing down. The number of architects and engineers who support a new investigation is also continuing to grow, with no signs of slowing down.

Really? How great that so many people support you, oh wait............

Regarding rallies and candidates - neither of those directly correlate to public opinion. Not everybody who believes in a certain cause is an activist for that cause.. and if people were choosing who to vote for based solely on how the candidates feel about 9/11, I would be very worried.

Your ground swell of support is where? Exactly?

R.Mackey

9th May 2008, 01:17 AM

Stephen Jones just co-authored a paper that was peer-reviewed and published.

It still appears that Dr. Jones's paper was not peer-reviewed. I contacted the editor-in-chief of the journal in question, who confirmed the publishers were acting irregularly, and also told me that for some reason the publishers couldn't tell him who the reviewers were. More details when I receive them.

And regardless, the paper proves nothing that supports the Truth Movement in the first place.

bonavada

9th May 2008, 03:33 AM

Not content with just the one idiot thread - http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/263367/1/

the OP of that:-

According to several of our detractors and including the implications at 911blogger, people are insinuating that we and/or the witnesses we present are actually disinformation operatives or "counter-intelligence".

If that is the case, then bring us in.

Contact the authorities and bring us all in.

Any takers?

How does this work? You contact the authorities to report that someone is working for the authorities?
Are we at the stoopid event horizon here? Perhaps the CT black hole bends intelligence so much that it can never escape. Ever.

BV

jhunter1163

9th May 2008, 03:43 AM

the OP of that:-

How does this work? You contact the authorities to report that someone is working for the authorities?
Are we at the stoopid event horizon here? Perhaps the CT black hole bends intelligence so much that it can never escape. Ever.

BV

A singularity of stoopid?

bonavada

9th May 2008, 03:49 AM

A singularity of stoopid?

Possibly. And infinitely dense?

BV

jhunter1163

9th May 2008, 03:53 AM

Yes, I do believe that the hard core of Truthers are infinitely dense.

eeyore1954

9th May 2008, 05:13 AM

For at least the 12th time, I'm not a member of the 9/11 truth movement.

Regarding experts "being few" and "producing nothing" Stephen Jones just co-authored a paper that was peer-reviewed and published.

Not everybody who believes in a certain cause is an activist for that cause.

The paper Stephen Jones just had peer reviewed certainly "produced nothing". It was a fluff opinion piece with no science in it. If it was in fact peer reviewed what facts or science in it did they peer review.

How could someone who truly believes the US government was responsible for 9/11 and the murder of 3000 people not be an activist?

Comsat Angel

9th May 2008, 05:32 AM

IIRC, Rev 91 (remember him?) used that line of "Oh, those are the activists" to explain why a Twoofer meeting was embarrasingly small.

So the Revolution is devouring itself? How unsurprising. This just proves that "The Life Of Brian" was especially acute on this topic.

CHF

9th May 2008, 06:39 AM

For at least the 12th time, I'm not a member of the 9/11 truth movement.

Further evidence that the TM is dead. Not even twoofers want to be associated with it.

:dl:

parky76

9th May 2008, 06:47 AM

You also know the Truth Club is dead, because whenever you confront them on an issue they have no answers for, they quickly change the subject.

=)

A W Smith

9th May 2008, 07:42 AM

I am betting Nico will be killing people at ground zero any day now.

I think Nico is doing some sort of performance art. He is trying to get a rise or reaction out of anybody. When Luke made contact with Nico during the mustache incident nicos words were
[quote]You see?!! Did you see that?!!{/quote]
And immediately backed off. I doubt Nico will kill anyone. I think it is more likely he will be severely injured eventually. But that will be displayed as just another component of his "art"

1337m4n

9th May 2008, 08:37 AM

Regarding rallies and candidates - neither of those directly correlate to public opinion. Not everybody who believes in a certain cause is an activist for that cause.. and if people were choosing who to vote for based solely on how the candidates feel about 9/11, I would be very worried.

I believe I've said this before, but if 99% of the American public believed 9/11 was an inside job, yet did absolutely nothing about it, that would accomplish nothing. The success of a movement is measured not by the raw number of people who agree with a handful of its views, but by the number of people who are actively working towards the movement's goals.

Nobody in the Truth Movement has done anything significant for seven years.

Plus, I really have to wonder: If the rallies are shrinking, as you concede, how exactly do you know that the movement is growing? Is there some new poll I should know about?

The only evidence you seem to have that the Truth Movement isn't dying is ae911Truth.org, and if you really want to get me started on those guys I can explain to you all the things that are wrong with that petition.

Klimax

9th May 2008, 09:11 AM

I was about to make thread about TM and CT generaly being possibly conspiracy terrorists or actualy disinfo agents to make any possible theory uncovering plot invalid.

It looks like I no longer have subject...it is in war inside itself...Oh well and I wanted to get job inside NWO as disinfo,but as I see it is out as well...

aggle-rithm

9th May 2008, 09:37 AM

aggle-rithm

9th May 2008, 10:39 AM

Nobody in the Truth Movement has done anything significant for seven years.

Untrue! They've sold hundreds, perhaps DOZENS of t-shirts!

And, as more and more Americans learn to read and start surfing the Internet, potential for future t-shirt sales is skyrocketing!!!

dudalb

9th May 2008, 10:56 AM

For at least the 12th time, I'm not a member of the 9/11 truth movement

Then deep44 is doing the best imitation of a twoofer I have ever seen.

jaydeehess

9th May 2008, 11:52 AM

How does this work? You contact the authorities to report that someone is working for the authorities?
Are we at the stoopid event horizon here? Perhaps the CT black hole bends intelligence so much that it can never escape. Ever.

BV

I'd advise against it. Aldo and Craig are just idiots at large. The dis-info agent is Killtown. Furthermore I cannot bear to keep it secret any longer. I am Killtown.
I hereby apologize to Val and everyone else I used in my quest to call disrepute upon the entire TM. They deserve disrepute but I was over zealous in using and abusing innocent people to do so.:cool:

Bobert

9th May 2008, 12:59 PM

You have to type in BIG RED FONTS
to prove you are an agent working undercover in the TM!

Confuseling

9th May 2008, 01:14 PM

I would very much like to apologise to those depending on the killtown undercover disinfo identity, on behalf of jaydeehess, one of my many sock puppets, for the grotesque indiscretion revealed in that post.

that should keep em confused for an hour or two, hell it hurt my (or maybe jaydeehess' (possibly killtown's)) head writing it.

steve s

9th May 2008, 04:08 PM

You also know the Truth Club is dead, because whenever you confront them on an issue they have no answers for, they quickly change the subject.

They've always done that.

Steve S

Brainache

9th May 2008, 08:38 PM