AE911Truth Shooting New Infomercial This Sunday, 11 May 2008

[boloboffin]

As announced on 911 Blogger (http://www.911blogger.com/node/15495), Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth are filming a new DVD presentation of their Powerpoint of failure. Richard Gage will be flipping the slides and working the crowd. And what a crowd it will be:

We encourage you to invite guests but they must be committed and we must have their contact information as well.

This and similar future studio productions are not public events; rather they are strictly by invitation only.

Conditions required of TV studio audience members for this production:

* As an audience member, you are part of the production, like an extra in a movie. There will be studio lights and cameras to get reactions shots — laughter, applause and just listening.

* Clothing restrictions (for the camera): Middle shades look best. Please avoid black, white or bright colors. (If you forget these guidelines, you will be asked to sit towards the back of the room).

* Guidelines to be photogenic: "Active listening" — which mostly involves nodding in agreement or acknowledgment, smiling, applauding, etc. We want only real responses, but also want, through active listening, to have those responses be more visible on camera. Also, even if you are familiar with some of the information, try to listen and react as if you are hearing it for the first time.

* Audience Etiquette: Eating or gum chewing is not allowed during the shoot. (The viewer’s eye is drawn towards any motion) For extra comfort bring a seat cushion.

* Gender balance: Our goal for these studio productions is to have a half-female audience, so we are encouraging you to invite a few female friends.

* There is no admission price, but we will be requesting donations to help offset production and facilities costs. Please do not feel obligated to donate. You are contributing greatly by your presence and by being willing to follow these guidelines. But those that feel motivated and able to help AE911Truth by contributing will help us achieve our mission of bringing the truth of 9/11 to architects, engineers, and everyone else!

Ah, yes, none of those pesky things called rational questions to distract this crowd. True believers only will be hand-picked to be in this audience.

The interesting thing to me is this: Gage is now asking his audiences to show their hands if they are unconvinced or not. Will there be "unconvinced people" in this handpicked crowd? Only time will tell.

And will they be using the current slide show on the website? Gage is now on his fourth version of these slides. He's managed to remove some of the more wacky statements and boneheaded mistakes, but rest assured there is PLENTY left intact. He still uses 911Mysteries every chance he gets. He still wonders where the pancaked floors are and then publishes pictures of them.

And now Gage is engaged in the most brazen act of special pleading you've ever seen in your life. First, he creates out of thin air a list of characteristic features of controlled demolitions. These obviously consist of things he thinks he can prove about the WTC buildings.

You would think. But then he alters this list not only for the explosive collapses of the Twin Towers (something he'd done from the very beginning), but also now for 7 World Trade. Gage has to special plead against his own custom-made list.

He can't even manage to deal from his own stacked deck.

"Try to listen and react as if you are hearing it for the first time." Oh, if only they could. If only they could.

[JamesB]

And now Gage is engaged in the most brazen act of special pleading you've ever seen in your life. First, he creates out of thin air a list of characteristic features of controlled demolitions. These obviously consist of things he thinks he can prove about the WTC buildings.

You would think. But then he alters this list not only for the explosive collapses of the Twin Towers (something he'd done from the very beginning), but also now for 7 World Trade. Gage has to special plead against his own custom-made list.

He can't even manage to deal from his own stacked deck.



My favorite are still the competing characteristics:

4. “Collapses” into its own footprint

9. 1,400 foot diameter field of equally distributed debris – outside of building footprint

Well now, that you have covered 100% of the possibilities...

[theauthor]

My favorite are still the competing characteristics:

4. “Collapses” into its own footprint

9. 1,400 foot diameter field of equally distributed debris – outside of building footprint

Well now, that you have covered 100% of the possibilities...

Do you have a link to that list?

[JamesB]

It is from their homepage.

http://www.ae911truth.org/

The lists for the twin towers, as opposed to WTC7 are tailored to fit their observations of each.

[MarkyX]

Man, the Iran government needs to hire Gage. They both seem to enjoy propaganda.

Someone should screenshot this so if any 9/11 denier tries to use the "crowd" as an excuse for "Gage's evidence to be so overwhelming", we can easily point out that they are fake.

[slyjoe]

I have't seen the latest version - does he still get gravity wrong?

[theauthor]

It is from their homepage.

http://www.ae911truth.org/

The lists for the twin towers, as opposed to WTC7 are tailored to fit their observations of each.


Ignore me, I see it now.

[theauthor]

Gage is an idiot. How can he have both of those points in the same list? Has anyone asked him?

[Myriad]

Excuse me for asking, but isn't there a term for people who work with a marketer, by pretending to be members of a neutral audience who are impressed with the product being offered, when actually their reactions are pre-arranged?

Wait, I think I've found it.

From Wikipedia: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill)A shill is an associate of a person selling goods or services or a political group, who pretends no association to the seller/group and assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer. The intention of the shill is, using crowd psychology, to encourage others unaware of the set-up to purchase said goods or services or support the political group's ideological claims. Shills are often employed by confidence artists. In the UK the term plant is also used.


Respectfully,
Myriad

[slyjoe]

Just glanced at the presentation - 504 slides.

We generally estimate 2 minutes per slide for powerpoint presentations. So, if he presents all this at an average of 2 min/slide, this is 1008 minutes.

No wonder he is asking audience members to bring a seat cushion - almost 17 hours. :eek:

To get through 504 slides in 2 hours, each slide would have to be covered in about 14 seconds. :eye-poppi

[SpitfireIX]

Excuse me for asking, but isn't there a term for people who work with a marketer, by pretending to be members of a neutral audience who are impressed with the product being offered, when actually their reactions are pre-arranged?

Wait, I think I've found it.

A shill is an associate of a person selling goods or services or a political group, who pretends no association to the seller/group and assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer. The intention of the shill is, using crowd psychology, to encourage others unaware of the set-up to purchase said goods or services or support the political group's ideological claims. Shills are often employed by confidence artists. In the UK the term plant is also used.

From Wikipedia: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill)


Respectfully,
Myriad


Maybe they should call it Triumph of the Shill. :D

[boloboffin]

I have't seen the latest version - does he still get gravity wrong?

He's "fixed" this slide. Now it says "nearly freefall". Otherwise it's exactly the same.

I think I could manage to work out how much resistance the building would have to be giving to slow the actual acceleration of the building to 9.1 m/s^2. I'd also like to see plots of actual controlled demolitions mapped out and see what kind of acceleration speed they demonstrate.

[OldTigerCub]

Just glanced at the presentation - 504 slides.

We generally estimate 2 minutes per slide for powerpoint presentations. So, if he presents all this at an average of 2 min/slide, this is 1008 minutes.

No wonder he is asking audience members to bring a seat cushion - almost 17 hours. :eek:

To get through 504 slides in 2 hours, each slide would have to be covered in about 14 seconds. :eye-poppi

I think the audience reaction should be fairly predictable....
I'm guessing that it will be something like this....
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[boloboffin]

Not all the slides are meant to be viewed for 2 minutes. About 100 of them are simply quotes that are meant to be rattled through. I doubt Gage reads them all. He just wants the effect of page after page of these quotes.

Fully another 100 would be organizational slides. He's got a CD hypothesis slide that he moves through each point. Slides 26-37 are all the same slide with a new button illustrating the next point in his hypothesis.

Plus every video slide is split into two. He shows a graphic and then the video plays on the second. There's at least 30 clips or so, so that's 60 slides. And many slides in the web presentation are reproduced two or three times if he flies each bullet point in one at a time.

So while it is a dense death by Powerpoint for two hours, Gage moves right on through it.

[RKOwens4]

Please avoid black, white or bright colors. (If you forget these guidelines, you will be asked to sit towards the back of the room).

Guidelines to be photogenic: "Active listening" — which mostly involves nodding in agreement or acknowledgment, smiling, applauding, etc.

You will pledge your finances to the community pot. You will wear what you're told. You will respond to your speaker's every word with enthusiasm and applause and you'll be thankful for it. It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again. It does what it's told. Any deviation from these rules shall bring terrible pain.

Seriously. Every major 9/11 truth site (including Architects & Engineers) asks for donations, which their very survival depends on as most have been fired (IE, Scholars). They use fear as a means to control people and to get more donations (Alex Jones is the master at this). They're not filming a TV show here, they're being themselves - truthers attending a Richard Gage presentation - and Richard Gage is utterly telling them how to behave. They believe the apocalypse (IE, the Illuminati takeover) is always just around the corner. Did anyone happen to see the show "Inside a Cult" on National Geographic recently?

[Jonnyclueless]

They have that list of requirements because they don't want any sheeple.

[Drs_Res]

What happens if you nod your head the wrong way?

Do they stop taping and remove you?

What happens if you make your way into the taping and shout and disturb the proceedings?

Will they escort you out of the building?

Will they stifle your freedom of speech?


Don't taze me bro!

[Horatius]

Gage is an idiot. How can he have both of those points in the same list? Has anyone asked him?



I don't know if anyone has asked, but I'd hazard a guess that if we simply re-arrange your post, we'll have the answer:

How can he have both of those points in the same list?

Gage is an idiot.

[LashL]

We encourage you to invite guests but they must be committed and we must have their contact information as well.

Translation: It just wouldn't do to have anything other than hardcore conspiracy fantasists in the crowd, so your guests will be screened in advance to ensure that they are sufficiently delusional to be helpful to us.

strictly by invitation only.

Translation: In case it wasn't clear enough above, we repeat: ONLY conspiracy fantasists are allowed. We can't have any realists giving away our most recent deception.

* Clothing restrictions (for the camera): Middle shades look best. Please avoid black, white or bright colors. (If you forget these guidelines, you will be asked to sit towards the back of the room).

Translation: Having those morons mealtickets brave young warriors in their black "Investigate 9/11" t-shirts show up in the video would give us away, so we will have to hide them in the back of the room if they do not follow instructions on how to dress for the deception.

* Guidelines to be photogenic: "Active listening" — which mostly involves nodding in agreement or acknowledgment, smiling, applauding, etc. We want only real responses, but also want, through active listening, to have those responses be more visible on camera. Also, even if you are familiar with some of the information, try to listen and react as if you are hearing it for the first time.

Translation: If you want to get your mug on the final product, you will be a good little conformist: a muling, pliable, easily manipulated shill who follows orders and fakes reactions for the camera. Otherwise, it's the cutting room floor for you.

* Gender balance: Our goal for these studio productions is to have a half-female audience, so we are encouraging you to invite a few female friends.

Translation: We realize that the drivel we spew appeals overwhelmingly to a certain demographic that happens not to look very flattering on video, so in order to try to present a more favourable image of our mindless minions mealtickets brave and valiant followers, we have to pad the audience with more palatable types. We realize that most members of the demographic to whom we appeal do not have wives or girlfriends, so please try to talk your sisters, mothers (hey, what a GREAT Mother's Day treat for Mom!) and local crack whores to come along so that we can create the illusion that it's not mostly just angry, young boys rebelling against "the man" who buy our crap snake oil pearls of wisdom.

Oh, and don't forget to tell them THE RULES first and let them know that we will be verifying their identities in advance to make sure that no rational, critical thinkers or non-deluded, non-conformists sneak in!

* There is no admission price, but we will be requesting donations to help offset production and facilities costs. Please do not feel obligated to donate. You are contributing greatly by your presence and by being willing to follow these guidelines. But those that feel motivated and able to help AE911Truth by contributing will help us achieve our mission of bringing the truth of 9/11 to architects, engineers, and everyone else!

Translation: You don't have to pay for the privilege of the chance to appear in this, our latest deception, and we appreciate your voluntary shilling for the cause, as long as you follow orders. But if you really, really, really care about humanity, the future of the world, and the dismal state of my bank account, you will pony up to help me sell more dvds!

[jberryhill]

Someone should pull a WeAreStalkers routine on him.

Stand up and start shouting:

"Mr. Gage, aren't you really just pushing propaganda to protect the real murderers of 9/11?"

and when they remove you, start shouting

"9/11 was an outside job!"

Then put the thing on YouTube about how your freedom of speech is being repressed by truthers.

[Klimax]

Someone should pull a WeAreStalkers routine on him.

Stand up and start shouting:

"Mr. Gage, aren't you really just pushing propaganda to protect the real murderers of 9/11?"

and when they remove you, start shouting

"9/11 was an outside job!"

Then put the thing on YouTube about how your freedom of speech is being repressed by truthers.

I wish I could get there,but distance is too big...ahh to play shill and sheep and then do super crashparty...and sneaking in videocamera to record would be even better...

[Myriad]

What happens if you nod your head the wrong way?

Do they stop taping and remove you?

What happens if you make your way into the taping and shout and disturb the proceedings?

Will they escort you out of the building?

Will they stifle your freedom of speech?


Well, keep in mind that this is not a public meeting or political debate. It's the filming of a commercial by private parties. Of course they want only cooperative actors and of course they would edit out any disruptions. Freedom of speech doesn't apply.

(However, those who do participate are still shills, by definition.)

I think the point you're trying to make here is, "How would they like it if debunkers were to stoop to their level and use their own tactics against them?" But it's easy to be misconstrued as advocating actually doing so.

Respectfully,
Myriad

[jhunter1163]

Actually, I for one do advocate disrupting the shooting of their mercial (there's no actual "info" in it).

I'm sure they'll eventually get it made, though, and it'll go into the rotation on HSN (The Home Shilling Network).

*going back to the corner now*:boxedin:

[bje]

Let's crash this party. I'll bring the Bullfrog Beer.

[Brainache]

I'd love to know how this thing went. Is it over yet?

[Klimax]

I'd love to know how this thing went. Is it over yet?

Sadly not yet.It is still rotating in its grave...

:D

[nicepants]

Let's crash this party. I'll bring the Bullfrog Beer.

FYI: The NWO lunch special for taping day is the extra-spicy 98oz bean burrito.

Also, be sure to pick up your complimentary packages of chewing gum for distribution to the other attendees.

[boloboffin]

Not worth a new thread, but worth sharing: The AE911Truth Powerpoint has been translated into French, and my debunking website made the cut!

I got a hit from a strange pdf today, and took a look. It's a 7.2 Mb download, but it's the entire French version of the AE911Powerpoint. It is its own animal, however. Slides are different, but recognizably derived from the English version.

And close to the end, there's this wonderful, wonderful slide.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g171/boloboffin2/911/WebsiteBigTime.jpg

With the help of Google Translate, that last section linking to my website says:

On the Internet, an information war is underway. www.ae911truth.info Objective: Deceive, make diversion, and maintain the confusion

And at the very end, there are about four slides dealing with debunking arguments. Each one lists my website. The only thing that could make me happier today is being able to announce that Richard Gage and his merry band of David-wanna-bes have selected the Fat Osama argument as one of their stones to strike down the mighty Goliath.

Oh, wait. They have (http://www.ae911truth.net/ppt_web/slides/jpg_960x720/Slide460.PNG.jpg). They really have (http://www.ae911truth.net/ppt_web/slides/jpg_960x720/Slide462.PNG.jpg).

:dl: