Undesired Walrus
13th May 2008, 07:09 AM
I've been talking for a few days with a man who came across my video about Ramzi Bin Al-Shibh on google video a while after being directed to 'Loose Change' for the first time. I've got a feeling he is a international relations student or something similar, as he was reading books like 'Perfect soldiers' and 'Masterminds of Terror' he said, 'for [his] course'. He wanted to know if I had access to the documentary I took the clip from, and I provided him with additional information about the CTers and their 'arguments'.
Here is his correspondence with Dylan, with some of my information rearing its head at times.
Dear Dylan, I was directed to your film by my nephew the other day.
I do not agree with the premise put forward in Loose Change: Final Cut. It seems quite self-evident, from all we know that 19 Islamists carried out such destruction.
That said, I thought I would point you to a rather glaring error you impose upon your film with regards to Saeed Al-Ghamdi and your unquestioned presumption that he was a 'fighter pilot'. The man was very young, only 21.
You have confused him with a with a Saudi pilot who was incorrectly shown to be the hijacker, despite not being in America for the time Al-Ghamdi was leaving a paper trail.
I recommend the book 'Perfect Soldiers' for an exhaustive investigation into the hijackers.
You are clearly very talented Dylan, and I wish you luck in producing an insightful career for yourself. However, I'd suggest you tone back on the more ridiculous and unproven claims you made in this film.
Yours,
XXX
XXX,
Besides our error with Al-Ghamdi, what is ridiculous? Speaking of wire transfers, what are your thoughts on the $100,000 one between Atta and the ISI?
Dylan,
I was taken back by that particular claim in your film, so I was somewhat disappointed you failed to provide any evidence for this wire transfer ever occuring. This transfer has never been seen, whilst Ramzi Bin Al-Shibh's frequent wire transfers to Atta are very visible indeed. Given that there is no evidence for such an enormous amount of money ever being spent (Whilst we have evidence of Jarrah buying cockpit posters, GPS systems etc), it seems somewhat ridiculous.
If you are asking for what is ridiculous besides that error, I'd declare that your failure to include the vast amounts of confessions from Al Qeada is quite foolish in a film about such a topic.
XXX
No evidence? The FBI and the Wall Street Journal confirmed it, and so did the Times of India. So did Joseph Biden. That's not enough for you? Or are you choosing simply to ignore it?
I'd like to point out that your "vast amounts of confessions from Al Qaeda" have almost always been drawn from the United States Government's translations. Numerous Arabic translators have the called bin Laden's 2001 "confession" tape severely mis-translated by the Justice Department.
Dear Dylan,
Are you actually saying Joe Biden confirmed that 100,000 dollars had been sent over from the ISI? Fascinating stuff if true, but can he reproduce this document? Can the FBI? The Wall Street Journal did not confirm the story, and we both know that. It reproduced the article, which is not confirming it.The FBI reported it themselves? Again, fascinating stuff if true, but I suspect you may perhaps be stretching the truth somewhat.
Dylan, Yosri Fouda heard Ramzi Bin-Al Shibh confessing to the attacks at the same time as KSM confessed the attacks. Al-Jazeera is not a pro-American channel by any stretch of the imagination and would report any inaccuracies if it saw them. At the same time, Ayman Al-Zawahiri claims responsibility infront of his bookcase every other month, and every year we get a new documentary from Al-Qeada showing Bin Laden and members of the Hamburg cell. We also get a new suicide videos from the hijackers once every september.
The translations of most of Al-Qeada's videos (And there are streams of the propaganda) are mostly done in a small shop in Birmingham, UK. It is run by a man who gets untranslated copies of the videos dropped off by various supporters, and then goes through and puts subtitles on them all. I'm sure this man would waste no time in exposing the actual words of the videos participants. That the chain of custody has been traced back to the producer of the videos in Western Pakistan is a positive sign that they have been traced back to Al Qeada.
XXX
No replies from Dylan after that last email.(Last paragraph mostly my information).
But most of all, I think the bolded section above is most revealing and worrying.
Not content with just leaving the errors in Loose Change:2E, he must leave errors in a film that he is trying to spread globally, calls watertight, makes money from, and promises the family members that this will reveal the truth about what actually happened to their loved ones.
Can I declare that this is a foul attitude?
Here is his correspondence with Dylan, with some of my information rearing its head at times.
Dear Dylan, I was directed to your film by my nephew the other day.
I do not agree with the premise put forward in Loose Change: Final Cut. It seems quite self-evident, from all we know that 19 Islamists carried out such destruction.
That said, I thought I would point you to a rather glaring error you impose upon your film with regards to Saeed Al-Ghamdi and your unquestioned presumption that he was a 'fighter pilot'. The man was very young, only 21.
You have confused him with a with a Saudi pilot who was incorrectly shown to be the hijacker, despite not being in America for the time Al-Ghamdi was leaving a paper trail.
I recommend the book 'Perfect Soldiers' for an exhaustive investigation into the hijackers.
You are clearly very talented Dylan, and I wish you luck in producing an insightful career for yourself. However, I'd suggest you tone back on the more ridiculous and unproven claims you made in this film.
Yours,
XXX
XXX,
Besides our error with Al-Ghamdi, what is ridiculous? Speaking of wire transfers, what are your thoughts on the $100,000 one between Atta and the ISI?
Dylan,
I was taken back by that particular claim in your film, so I was somewhat disappointed you failed to provide any evidence for this wire transfer ever occuring. This transfer has never been seen, whilst Ramzi Bin Al-Shibh's frequent wire transfers to Atta are very visible indeed. Given that there is no evidence for such an enormous amount of money ever being spent (Whilst we have evidence of Jarrah buying cockpit posters, GPS systems etc), it seems somewhat ridiculous.
If you are asking for what is ridiculous besides that error, I'd declare that your failure to include the vast amounts of confessions from Al Qeada is quite foolish in a film about such a topic.
XXX
No evidence? The FBI and the Wall Street Journal confirmed it, and so did the Times of India. So did Joseph Biden. That's not enough for you? Or are you choosing simply to ignore it?
I'd like to point out that your "vast amounts of confessions from Al Qaeda" have almost always been drawn from the United States Government's translations. Numerous Arabic translators have the called bin Laden's 2001 "confession" tape severely mis-translated by the Justice Department.
Dear Dylan,
Are you actually saying Joe Biden confirmed that 100,000 dollars had been sent over from the ISI? Fascinating stuff if true, but can he reproduce this document? Can the FBI? The Wall Street Journal did not confirm the story, and we both know that. It reproduced the article, which is not confirming it.The FBI reported it themselves? Again, fascinating stuff if true, but I suspect you may perhaps be stretching the truth somewhat.
Dylan, Yosri Fouda heard Ramzi Bin-Al Shibh confessing to the attacks at the same time as KSM confessed the attacks. Al-Jazeera is not a pro-American channel by any stretch of the imagination and would report any inaccuracies if it saw them. At the same time, Ayman Al-Zawahiri claims responsibility infront of his bookcase every other month, and every year we get a new documentary from Al-Qeada showing Bin Laden and members of the Hamburg cell. We also get a new suicide videos from the hijackers once every september.
The translations of most of Al-Qeada's videos (And there are streams of the propaganda) are mostly done in a small shop in Birmingham, UK. It is run by a man who gets untranslated copies of the videos dropped off by various supporters, and then goes through and puts subtitles on them all. I'm sure this man would waste no time in exposing the actual words of the videos participants. That the chain of custody has been traced back to the producer of the videos in Western Pakistan is a positive sign that they have been traced back to Al Qeada.
XXX
No replies from Dylan after that last email.(Last paragraph mostly my information).
But most of all, I think the bolded section above is most revealing and worrying.
Not content with just leaving the errors in Loose Change:2E, he must leave errors in a film that he is trying to spread globally, calls watertight, makes money from, and promises the family members that this will reveal the truth about what actually happened to their loved ones.
Can I declare that this is a foul attitude?