Indiana Jones is fiction

[firecoins]

I thought this was obvious. Indiana Jones was a work of fiction and Harrison Ford was merely acting a role. However CNN spoke to actual experts to verify this.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/05/13/indiana.jones.arch.ap/index.html

Apparently archeologists are not as good looking, don't have James Bond as a dad, and try not to break things.

[Babylon Sister]

Cool! I actually know some of those archeologists. But that's only 'cause I r one.

[ConspiRaider]

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Indiana Jones is - pardon me - FICTION?!? You wanna see me - er, Indy - get whipping mad?!? Show me your snake and I'll show you MAD!!!

[Horatius]

Show me your snake and I'll show you MAD!!!



Hey now! Keep it clean! This is a family forum!

[shadron]

Naw, everyone knows that Indy lives at Jackson Hole.

Archaeologist's don't often wear firearms, either - they hire guards when that is required; I'm sure Balylon Sister would tell us that. However, Indy is not just a Hollywood creation; he's modeled after the popularized images of Heinrich Schliemann (the arch at Troy and Mycenae, late 1800's) and Howard Carter (the tomb of Ikhnaton, 1920's). Many "old-time archaeologists" were little more than grave robbers (though some did take notes on their plundering, unlike Indy, who seems to be overly busy), and the collections in museums of Europe and America will attest to that - they sponsored expeditions whose main reason for being was to expand the museum's collection. Now that a lot of the colonies and 3rd world nations that were plundered are beginning to get organized and are demanding their property back, it's a whole new game. Now foreigners have to register and report to the local department of antiquities and accept in-country archaeologists as part of their teams. In the 1940's Indy would very much fill the popular image of a typical archaeologist, which is, of course, his period.

[ConspiRaider]

Hey now! Keep it clean! This is a family forum!
All right then! Show me your rat! My dad HATES rats!

[Scazon]

Come off it, they'll be telling me that Dr. Who and The Archers are fiction next.

[dudalb]

The Archaeologist here at work have a Love/Hate affair with Indy Jones.
They love to poke fun on the false view the films gives of what they do for a living,but they all seem to know the films by heart.
It is a lot like how journlists have a love/hate affair with the classic "Front Page/Hello,Sweetie, Get me Rewrite" portrayal of Journalists.

[Cello Man]

And here I was thinking it was a series of documentaries.

[brodski]

Come off it, they'll be telling me that Dr. Who and The Archers are fiction next.

NEVER blaspheme against the Holy Church of Ambridge!

[Mashuna]

I've heard that Eddy Grundy is odds-on favourite to be the next Doctor.

[brodski]

I've heard that Eddy Grundy is odds-on favourite to be the next Doctor.

Daleks != ferrets

[Big Les]

The Archaeologist here at work have a Love/Hate affair with Indy Jones.
They love to poke fun on the false view the films gives of what they do for a living,but they all seem to know the films by heart.
It is a lot like how journlists have a love/hate affair with the classic "Front Page/Hello,Sweetie, Get me Rewrite" portrayal of Journalists.

It's true - same with the newer generation of historians. They all go and watch the films partly to scoff and partly to geek the hell out.

When I was applying for an archaeology degree, they told me at University College London that they'd recently been in possession of Indy's hat and whip.. and auctioned them for charity! What were they thinking?!

[RobRoy]

Show me your snake and I'll show you MAD fear!!!

Fixed it. :D

It's true - same with the newer generation of historians. They all go and watch the films partly to scoff and partly to geek the hell out.

It's true. My brother is a doctoral candidate in history. He likes to rant on and on about all the mistakes the movies make, but he loves to watch the movies. My favorite, currently, is to leave him voice mail that say, "The Da Vinci Code is all true!" :D

[JFrankA]

Originally Posted by Scazon
Come off it, they'll be telling me that Dr. Who and The Archers are fiction next.


....The Doctor is a work of fiction?!!!!????

Awwww..... I guess I better stop hanging out in Cardiff near that rift waiting for a blue police box to show up.......





:D

[Luciana]

I'm still trying to figure out how someone can look hot at 66. Short answer is... he can't.

[fuelair]

I thought this was obvious. Indiana Jones was a work of fiction and Harrison Ford was merely acting a role. However CNN spoke to actual experts to verify this.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/05/13/indiana.jones.arch.ap/index.html

Apparently archeologists are not as good looking, don't have James Bond as a dad, and try not to break things.
Why yes, yes it was obvious IJ was fiction (just like ID in that - but more intelligent and closer to reality)!!:D

[NoZed Avenger]

I thought this was obvious. Indiana Jones was a work of fiction

Man, that is disappointing.



Oh well, at least I still have Speed Racer.

[firecoins]

I'm still trying to figure out how someone can look hot at 66. Short answer is... he can't.
I am sure you could pull it off.

[shadron]

I'm still trying to figure out how someone can look hot at 66. Short answer is... he can't.

I don't see any people of the female persuasion really put off by Sean Connery's age (78). In fact, he seems to have improved over time.

Well, anyway, I have to hold up the ancient poster's end. When hot people like Luciana start condemning us to a life of deprivation, then it's time to not go quietly into the night.:)

[Luciana]

I don't see any people of the female persuasion really put off by Sean Connery's age (78). In fact, he seems to have improved over time.

I never found Sean Connery attractive... that's all.

Well, anyway, I have to hold up the ancient poster's end. When hot people like Luciana start condemning us to a life of deprivation, then it's time to not go quietly into the night.:)

It's not like that. It's like that Daniel Craig... he's just not hot enough to be James Bond. What next, a plain Bond girl? And Indiana HAD to be hot, as it goes with his humor and charm. Unfortunately, at this time, Harrison Ford isn't hot enough to Indiana.

Hey, I do enjoy fiction. At least allow my action heroes to be impossibly hot, please. :D

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'm still trying to figure out how someone can look hot at 66. Short answer is... he can't.

How about at 48? :o

[I Ratant]

When arriving at the alloted 3 score and 10, and squiring a 30 year old cutie around, the looks one receives from the passers-by are quite amusing! :)

[Lithrael]

I'm still trying to figure out how someone can look hot at 66. Short answer is... he can't.

Hush your mouth, you. Hawt older men are for rawr.

[dudalb]

How about at 48? :o

Michelle Pffeifer just turned 50,and she is still smoking hot.

[TX50]

Indy is...modeled after the popularized images of Heinrich Schliemann (the arch at Troy and Mycenae, late 1800's) and Howard Carter (the tomb of Ikhnaton, 1920's)...

Didn't Spielberg himself once say that the Indiana Jones character is inspired
by Roy Chapman Andrews?

[OnlyTellsTruths]

Hello all, just dropping by with the wiki link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_%28novel%29) to H. Rider Haggard's "She".

There was a mid 30s movie, and a mid 60s movie as well. Not so ironically there was a 1982 movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090009/) that seems to have had it's release delayed until 1985 (mostly likely it wasn't quite up to standards).

[ddt]

Some ten years ago, a Dutch historian and a classicist wrote a book "Asterix and the truth" - well, unfortunately, it was not translated in English. They compared the comic books with what we now know from the life in Gaul around 50 BC, from archaeological findings. They came to the surprising conclusion that the depiction in the comic books is actually very truthful to what we now know - though much of that was still unknown in the time the Asterix albums were first conceived.

[shadron]

Didn't Spielberg himself once say that the Indiana Jones character is inspired
by Roy Chapman Andrews?

Well, that's certainly possible. Andrews was a paleontologist rather than an archaeologist, and you don't get the play out of fossilized Ceratosaurus eggs that you do from the Ark, the Holy Grail, Petra and such, but Andrews certainly filled the vision. His best known feat was to lead an expedition into the Gobi desert to find (among other things) the aforementioned eggs, the first dinosaur eggs ever recovered. He had lots of flash and he did his thing about 10-20 years early for the Indy flick timeline. A lot of Indy's attitude was shared by the mentioned archaeologists, though. It is speculated that Schliemann may have (real iffy) salted King Priam's treasure that he discovered in Mycenae, Greece.

[ConspiRaider]

Not fiction - ANYBODY can be Indiana Jones. That pic on the left is Me-Indy from 7 years ago. The pic on the right - with the same Indy jacket - was taken one week ago. See? It's just attytude, dude! You can be Indy!

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_1343148318e7a04d39.png (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12249)

[Sandy M]

To be semi-serious, did anyone watch that History Channel program last night? Comparing Indy to the real world of archaeology? It seemed to be okay at first with comparisons like Indy/Nazis = modern archeologist/Hezbollah, etc. Showed new technology, talked about artifact theft, tomb robbing, limitation of areas to investigate due to modern politics/war, etc. Fine. Then suddenly - CRYSTAL SKULLS!! - that cure people!! given by Aliens from Outer Space?!! Impossible to be made by modern technology!!! Uh....what??????? I'm willing to go all fictional/suspension of disbelief for a blockbuster movie, but after the fairly factual lead in, that was a shock. Not that History Channel is all that accurate any more, but still.......

[dogjones]

Some ten years ago, a Dutch historian and a classicist wrote a book "Asterix and the truth" - well, unfortunately, it was not translated in English. They compared the comic books with what we now know from the life in Gaul around 50 BC, from archaeological findings. They came to the surprising conclusion that the depiction in the comic books is actually very truthful to what we now know - though much of that was still unknown in the time the Asterix albums were first conceived.

Rrrrrrrrr... humans' treatment of trees is even more shameful now than it was then.

[ddt]

Rrrrrrrrr... humans' treatment of trees is even more shameful now than it was then.

Idéfix, did you have a name change? :) Some humans do plant a new tree nowadays when they cut down one. Unfortunately, Panoramix isn't around anymore with his magic acorns.

When you're interested in the book(s): I found a German and a Spanish translation on amazon. here (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url?%5Fencoding=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=Rene%20van%20Royen) and here (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url?%5Fencoding=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=Sunnyva%20van%20der%20Vegt).

[Wudang]

Then suddenly - CRYSTAL SKULLS!! - that cure people!! given by Aliens from Outer Space?!! Impossible to be made by modern technology!!!

To be fair though, it's only recently that archaeologists have been able to isolate the traces of orichalcum that shows their terrestrial origin, in Atlantis.

[TheDaver]

All right then! Show me your rat! My dad HATES rats!Okay.

[Moon-Spinner]

When I was applying for an archaeology degree, they told me at University College London that they'd recently been in possession of Indy's hat and whip.. and auctioned them for charity! What were they thinking?!

Indy's hat and whip themselves are historical artifacts - and "They belong in a museum!!!" :p

[Babylon Sister]

Indy's hat and whip themselves are historical artifacts - and "They belong in a museum!!!" :p


They are in a museum. The Smithsonian Muesum of American History. I've seen 'em!

(Along with Fonzie's jacket and Archie Bunker's chair.)

[Ove]

Some ten years ago, a Dutch historian and a classicist wrote a book "Asterix and the truth" - well, unfortunately, it was not translated in English. They compared the comic books with what we now know from the life in Gaul around 50 BC, from archaeological findings. They came to the surprising conclusion that the depiction in the comic books is actually very truthful to what we now know - though much of that was still unknown in the time the Asterix albums were first conceived.

My history teacher back in 1976 used Asterix in his teaching. He claimed that regarding details of uniforms-camp life-millitary organisation etc. the comics were spot on AND a lot easier to read than Caesars "My Life" :D

[TX50]

My history teacher back in 1976 used Asterix in his teaching. He claimed that regarding details of uniforms-camp life-millitary organisation etc. the comics were spot on AND a lot easier to read than Caesars "My Life" :D

We used the Latin editions of "Asterix" in class. I still much preferred
"de bello Gallico" though. The Romans really kick butt in that. :)

[ddt]

We used the Latin editions of "Asterix" in class. I still much preferred
"de bello Gallico" though. The Romans really kick butt in that. :)

Unfortunately, we had some "new" teaching method which introduced cases one-by-one, didn't mention their names etc. - so we didn't read De bello Gallico in second grade as generations had done before.

I have one Asterix in Latin and I found it very tedious to read: there were many, many words we never encountered in school when reading the classical authors.

[TX50]

Unfortunately, we had some "new" teaching method which introduced cases one-by-one, didn't mention their names etc. - so we didn't read De bello Gallico in second grade as generations had done before.

I have one Asterix in Latin and I found it very tedious to read: there were many, many words we never encountered in school when reading the classical authors.

I think this is partly because they are trying to write in a
colloquial style in the comics; something that you almost
never see when reading the classical authors (only Petronius
and Plautus really offer that). But I find that the comic format
usually means that the unusual words are easy to understand
in context. I have all of the Latin "Asterix" editions. They were
easy to come by when I lived in Germany (where they are published).

I was astonished to hear little Dutch kids on the train recently
trying to decline some Latin nouns, presumably for homework
(and making a right mess of them too, I should add; more
"Romanes eunt domus" than "Romani ite domum"

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAdHEwiAy8

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