View Full Version : Cartoonist Jailed Over Drawings in "Democratic" Britain
Mondial
22nd May 2008, 07:19 PM
This man was sentenced to jail for 1 year because the object of his cartoons were Jews. The neocons, the israeli lobby, judeo-christians and others who condemned muslims over the Mohammed cartoons in Denmark have nothing to say about this outrageous attack on freedom of expression -
www.honestmediatoday.com/cartoonist_who_joked_about_jews.htm (http://www.honestmediatoday.com/cartoonist_who_joked_about_jews.htm)
Cleon
22nd May 2008, 07:21 PM
Yay. More Neo-Nazi hog-twaddle.
Highly Selassie
22nd May 2008, 07:26 PM
"Democratic" Britain? Are you implying that democracies cannot restrict freedom of speech?
JoeEllison
22nd May 2008, 07:49 PM
Yay. More Neo-Nazi hog-twaddle.
Not even new hog-twaddle...
quixotecoyote
22nd May 2008, 07:58 PM
The only reference to this I can find is on the OP's link. Did this actually happen?
JoeEllison
22nd May 2008, 08:01 PM
The only reference to this I can find is on the OP's link. Did this actually happen?
Who knows? Why hasn't anyone warned me about this one-trick racist before now?
Gregory
22nd May 2008, 08:10 PM
This man was sentenced to jail for 1 year because the object of his cartoons were Jews. The neocons, the israeli lobby, judeo-christians and others who condemned muslims over the Mohammed cartoons in Denmark have nothing to say about this outrageous attack on freedom of expression
You mean that people aren't currently making a fuss over something that happened two decades ago,? The only possible explanation is some sort of massive, Semitic plot.
he cartoon that generated the hatred of the British Board of Deputy Jews was about "authenticated" cases of Jewish Ritual Murder. For those not familiar with this topic, Jews were banished from England in 1290 for this--just as they were also banished from Spain for this, as one of the reasons, in 1492. In fact, it is doubtful that you'd find a country in all of Europe where Jews hadn't suffered reprisals for reportedly engaging in this wicked crime. Jews probably thought--how dare that Gentile make fun of Jews and bring up this little-known topic to the forefront of the nation, while mocking us at the same time!
Robert Edwards must be punished--the Jews said in unison.
Seriously, aren't you embarrassed to be using this type of thing as a source?
Furi
23rd May 2008, 06:04 AM
Well seeing as I was stupid enough to click on the link and was awarded a nice, "Not permitted you Must report attempted access to this site to your line manager" Flag, I can assume that the site is as I expected given the nature of the topic.
fagin
23rd May 2008, 07:04 AM
This is the cartoon in question:
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/rhe_Jewish_Ritual_Murder.htm
Not sure it's worth jailing someone for, but not exactly humour.
fagin
23rd May 2008, 07:07 AM
But actually seems it was not the cartoon that caused the problem
" Indeed, Robert Edwards was the first person in Europe to be arrested for Holocaust denial, for he dared to question the Holocaust and all the propaganda surrounding it."
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/cartoonist_who_joked_about_jews.htm
Not quite the same thing.
Almo
23rd May 2008, 07:51 AM
This is the cartoon in question:
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/rhe_Jewish_Ritual_Murder.htm
Not sure it's worth jailing someone for, but not exactly humour.
Agreed.
Travis
25th May 2008, 08:16 AM
I'm on record as being opposed to making the content of any comic criminal and I'm opposed to making Holocaust Denial criminal despite my great distaste for it.
Darat
26th May 2008, 11:44 AM
But actually seems it was not the cartoon that caused the problem
" Indeed, Robert Edwards was the first person in Europe to be arrested for Holocaust denial, for he dared to question the Holocaust and all the propaganda surrounding it."
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/cartoonist_who_joked_about_jews.htm
Not quite the same thing.
He can't have been arrested in the UK for "Holocaust denial" as we don't have any such law.
Gregory
26th May 2008, 12:46 PM
The UK does, however, have laws against inciting racial hatred (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incitement_to_ethnic_or_racial_hatred#United_Kingd om). Maybe that's what he was arrested for.
I'm torn about such laws, myself, but I won't cry myself to sleep tonight over this bigot.
Darat
26th May 2008, 02:21 PM
And as your linked states holocaust denial is not covered under that legislation nor any of the more recent legislation. Therefore the article is at best disingenuous or simply being dishonest.
kerikiwi
26th May 2008, 02:52 PM
The article is total horse feathers.
Gregory
26th May 2008, 06:25 PM
And as your linked states holocaust denial is not covered under that legislation nor any of the more recent legislation. Therefore the article is at best disingenuous or simply being dishonest.
Certainly; hardly surprising, given the source.
Straight from the horse's (ass's) mouth: he was charged with "aiding and abetting, counselling and procuring the publication of material likely to incite racial hatred." (http://www.globalfire.tv/nj/06en/persecution/edwards.htm) He then adds, "It may have well been "Holocaust denial."
It sounds to me like it happened this way: he was jailed for inciting racial hatred, and then, desiring to be a martyr, proclaimed that the real reason he was jailed was Holocaust denial. But who knows? There's so little information available that it's basically impossible to comment further.
dudalb
27th May 2008, 03:43 PM
I'm on record as being opposed to making the content of any comic criminal and I'm opposed to making Holocaust Denial criminal despite my great distaste for it.
Which is my stand.
Largely because I don't think we should give the bastards the "free speech Matyr" card to play.
Mojo
11th July 2008, 04:47 AM
If anyone wants a more reliable source for the facts of the case, I think it's been reported:
R v Edwards (R. Hamilton) (1983) 5 Cr App R (S) 145.
"This case involved the publication of a comic strip to stir up racial hatred. Held: 12 Months Imprisonment."
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