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The A-Team
22nd May 2008, 11:27 PM
Louisiana Bill Sneaks Religion Into Science ClassesThursday, May 22, 2008

Measure Would Harm Children's Education, Undercut Constitution And Lead To Lawsuit, Says AU's Lynn

A bill approved yesterday by a Louisiana legislative panel brings religion into science classrooms and undercuts fundamental constitutional principles, according to Americans United for Separation of Church and State.





The House Education Committee unanimously approved Senate Bill 733, a measure that allows public school teachers to use supplementary materials when teaching about evolution.





The Louisiana Science Education Act has the backing of Religious Right groups such as the Louisiana Family Forum and the Discovery Institute and is clearly intended, critics say, to bring religious concepts into the science classroom. The bill is ardently opposed by teachers’ groups, scientists and advocates of church-state separation.





Said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, Americans United executive director, “This bill isn’t about improving education in Louisiana; it’s about sneaking religion into the science classroom.





“If this passes, Louisiana legislators will be harming children’s education, undercutting the Constitution and holding the state up to national ridicule, “ Lynn continued “People will be asking whether Flintstones cartoons are going to be introduced as documentaries in Louisiana science classes.





The Louisiana bill is one of several so-called “academic freedom” measures introduced in legislatures around the country this year at the behest of Religious Right forces. Bills were also introduced in Florida, Alabama, Missouri and other states.





Said Lynn, “The federal courts have repeatedly struck down every scheme designed to inject religious doctrines into public school science classes. These so-called ‘academic freedom’ bills are just the latest maneuver to try to get around those rulings.





“If this bill passes, and religious materials are brought into Louisiana public schools as a result, we will go to court to seek justice for the state’s children,” Lynn concluded.





Americans United is a religious liberty watchdog group based in Washington, D.C. Founded in 1947, the organization educates Americans about the importance of church-state separation in safeguarding religious freedom.

UnrepentantSinner
22nd May 2008, 11:31 PM
Could you edit that and tighten it up a bit? :) AU realeses don't copy and paste to the forum in the same format they are in your e-mail.

Bob Klase
23rd May 2008, 06:05 AM
It might also be interesting to get an idea of exactly what the bill actually does/says.

Tricky
23rd May 2008, 06:48 AM
It might also be interesting to get an idea of exactly what the bill actually does/says.
Here you go (http://www.legis.state.la.us/billdata/streamdocument.asp?did=482728)(pdf form)

Tricky
23rd May 2008, 06:52 AM
Here's the critical part:
B.(1) The State Board of Elementary and Secondary Education, upon request of a city, parish, or other local public school board, shall allow and assist teachers, principals, and other school administrators to create and foster an environment within public elementary and secondary schools that promotes critical thinking skills, logical analysis, and open and objective discussion of scientific theories being studied including, but not limited to, evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning.(2) Such assistance shall include support and guidance for teachers regarding effective ways to help students understand, analyze, critique, and objectively review scientific theories being studied, including those enumerated in Paragraph (1) of this Subsection.
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C. A teacher shall teach the material presented in the standard textbook supplied by the school system and thereafter may use supplemental textbooks and other instructional materials to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner, as permitted by the city, parish, or other local public school board.
D. This Section shall not be construed to promote any religious doctrine, promote discrimination for or against a particular set of religious beliefs, or promote discrimination for or against religion or nonreligion.
Note that they are very careful to say how they will not be pushing religion. Notice how they also do not say that the "supplemental materials" must be of a scientific nature.

ponderingturtle
23rd May 2008, 07:06 AM
Here's the critical part:

Note that they are very careful to say how they will not be pushing religion. Notice how they also do not say that the "supplemental materials" must be of a scientific nature.

Is D even possible?

Beerina
23rd May 2008, 07:46 AM
assistance shall include support and guidance for teachers regarding effective ways to help students understand, analyze, critique, and objectively review scientific theories being studied

Be careful what you wish for, legislators. You may just get it.

DavidJames
23rd May 2008, 10:57 AM
...but not limited to, evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning.Why don't they just provide a link to the Republican platform?

Tanstaafl
23rd May 2008, 02:02 PM
Why don't they just provide a link to the Republican platform?


You want them to be, what, honest? :eek:

Jimbo07
23rd May 2008, 02:33 PM
to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner

The elementary school is not the forum to "analyze, critique and review scientific theories."

:mad:

shadron
23rd May 2008, 04:33 PM
The elementary school is not the forum to "analyze, critique and review scientific theories."

:mad:

Indeed. I'd always thought is was important to understand those theories before you critique and review them, but I suppose their methods don't require that sort of preparation.

CFLarsen
23rd May 2008, 11:33 PM
Why don't they just provide a link to the Republican platform?

That's precisely it:

scientific theories being studied including, but not limited to, evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning.

They don't mention theories like gravity, speed of light, or electromagnetism. First, they know it would earn them widespread ridicule. Second, they only mention those who are in the public eye, under debate, and in conflict with a right-wing creationist agenda.

Smackety
23rd May 2008, 11:44 PM
The religious right must think our children are pretty stupid. The kids I know are easily able to tell fantasy from reality.

CFLarsen
24th May 2008, 12:24 AM
The religious right must think our children are pretty stupid.

Maybe.

But the religious right definitely want them to be stupid.