StopSylviaBrowne - Email: More From Ex-fans of Sylvia Browne

[RSLancastr]

New article:

http://www.stopsylviabrowne.com/articles/email_moreexbrownefans.shtml
Email: More From Ex-fans of Sylvia Browne
Four recent examples of people for whom this site has made a difference.

[Crundy]

Nice. It's always good to know the struggle is making a difference. I think the articles like this on your site let all of us know here that we can help others who have fallen into the trap.

P.S. What happened to Kaz in the end? Did the show about her ever get aired?

[Flo]

Excellent job, Robert, it proves that providing the relevant information does indeed make a difference for the believers. Thanks to those persons who took the time to write.

In the third mail, this part got my attention:

In fact, my daughter-in-law-elect is STILL a huge fan of Browne's and refuses to read your site, despite my urging. She has told my son she wants to arrange a reading with Browne to see what she "forsees" in their relationship.

Such a person is apparently unable to make her own decisions or to put the necessary efforts to make a relationship work. Suppose she gets a reading on one of SB's bad hair day, and ... :rolleyes:

[rjh01]

Some people do not want to be told that things they believe in are not right. Such things are a huge threat for people. It is being told you are a stupid, ignorant person and here is proof of it. Not what most people want to be told.

Edit. Fortunately not everyone is like that.

[monoman]

Well done Rob, you've saved people a few thousand dollars just with that small sample of emails - not to mention the emotional toll and disappointment.

[Minarvia]

No kidding, monoman. I think many have saved their money and it will doubtless be put to better use. About that man's future daughter-in-law, I hope she changes her mind. After all, in her view, she could have about 400 dollars.
If she does read the site, I hope she sends an email to Rob either way she takes it.

As for you, Rob and helpers, I always think of John Walsh at the end of every America's Most Wanted Show, "remember, you CAN (and DO) make a difference!"

[grayman]

Reading articles like that are a great way to start the day. Thanks RSL!

[ExMinister]

Articles like this make me so proud to be an RSL groupie. :)

[alfaniner]

Never mind... changed to a PM.

[Locknar]

As I've written before, though it is certainly worth repeating, you (and those that are helping you) make a difference. Money aside, saving just one person from the emotional toll someone like SB can exact on a victim I'd suggest is well worth your (et all) effort.

[EeneyMinnieMoe]

Thaks alot for showcasing those emails- and a big thanks to their authors.

As James Randi once said, they are what keeps you going in this line of work.

[Tamazon]

Thanks Robert!

I cried tears of joy while reading those e-mails. :D

[Jon.]

RSL, this:


My apologies if this article looks like I am just patting myself on the back. I just felt this article would be a good response to those who doubt that the site is helping anyone.


is totally unnecessary. You deserve all the pats on the back you (or anyone else) can give, for the work you have done with the SSB website!

[JoeTheJuggler]

It is a cynical thought, but there are certainly times when it is true. However, I think it is clear - from these and other, similar emails I receive every week - that clearly-presented evidence, when considered carefully, can and does change people's minds, even regarding a belief that they hold dear.
I agree.

I think this is especially true when it comes to homeopathy. A great many people are simply ignorant of what it is. In my personal experience (real life, that is, not the JREF forum), everyone who has listened to me explain what it is ends up as outraged about it as I am.

I think doing the same thing regarding a psychic requires a lot more tact and diplomacy than I have.

As always, well done!

[Senex]

Robert,

I suspect the people who encounter SB fall into 3 categories. I suspect that Houdini encountered this same 3 category issue when confronting Marjory in Boston. 1)Those that believe and would be hell to try and change their beliefs 2) Those that are unsure and she has to perform well to get this crowd on board and 3) Those who are friends/partners of those that believe who encountered her as skeptics and probably want to have sex later that night so they keep their skeptical opinions to themselves.

You, Robert, have done something that could only have been accomplished with a heroic effort -- you have not only gotten the middle crowd on-board you have influenced some of her hard core believers. I hope Sylvia is fading and you can start using your abilities to help other people duped in the name of religion.

If there was a god, you would be doing his work ;)

[DrDisco]

I got an idea reading email #4 where it said,


I was browsing at the library and saw a book by Sylvia Browne and checked it out because it looked like a fun read.


It might not be a bad idea to print out the web address for www.StopSylviaBrowne.com (http://www.stopsylviabrowne.com/)and tuck it into every copy of Sylvia's books in our local libraries. Check back from time to time and refresh whenever needed. Hmm.....

[Dragonrock]

RSL,

Most people go through life affecting only people they come in direct contact with, and those only in small ways. You have the knowledge that you have changed the world in some way even if it is only one person at a time.

[wahrheit]

RSL, this:




is totally unnecessary. You deserve all the pats on the back you (or anyone else) can give, for the work you have done with the SSB website!

I fully agree.

I don't know the English expression, but in my first language those e-mails would make the chest of Robert swell to the size of a gorilla.

Whatever the above actually translates to in English, at least I hope that it makes his better half, when reading this, admire him even more despite him spending so much time on the web site. :)

[RSL's better half]

Articles like this make me so proud to be an RSL groupie. :)

You and me both, EM!

[ravdin]

It gives me the warm fuzzies inside to think of people keeping their hard earned cash rather than paying for SB's services. It feels so much nicer than reading about yet another loathsome deed of hers.

It's very encouraging to see that Robert really is making a difference and not just preaching to the choir.

[RSL's better half]

I fully agree.

I don't know the English expression, but in my first language those e-mails would make the chest of Robert swell to the size of a gorilla.

Whatever the above actually translates to in English, at least I hope that it makes his better half, when reading this, admire him even more despite him spending so much time on the web site. :)


I already idolize him, what more could he want? Robert Lancaster is my favorite person in the whole wide world. What he is doing (with the Kaz site and with the Sylvia Browne site) is so important, how could I object when it steals some of "my time?" Besides, when he sees (and he is always watching) that I need his time, he always comes through. Just this past Sunday he endured my friends' slide show of their trip to Australia because he knew I wanted him there. He is every bit the "Good Guy" you all believe him to be. Oh, he's not perfect - but he is a genuine good guy.

I actually can't wait for him to get started on the "mother site" and all the "baby sites" he announced at TAM 5.5. I am also looking forward to you all submitting articles for his consideration to be posted on the "baby sites."

[Loopus]

I was among those who doubted (though only to myself) that your site would convert any true believers. I'm very glad to have been wrong.

Keep up the good work, sir. You're an inspiration to skeptics everywhere.

[Finnegan]

Many congratulations, Mr Lancaster.

I always try to maintain my view that any individual has the ability to alter their beliefs, and so these reactions to your efforts are extremely inspiring.

[RSLancastr]

P.S. What happened to Kaz in the end? Did the show about her ever get aired?Haven't heard a peep out of her in around two years now. She is still in Australia, but does not appear to be telling her 9/11 story in front of churches any more. And no, that story has never aired, to my knowledge. Maybe the fact that it is in the can is one of the reasons she hasn't gone back to her scam. That, and I am leaving the site up indefinitely.

Excellent job, Robert, it proves that providing the relevant information does indeed make a difference for the believers. Thanks to those persons who took the time to write.Thanks!

Some people do not want to be told that things they believe in are not right. Such things are a huge threat for people. It is being told you are a stupid, ignorant person and here is proof of it. Not what most people want to be told.

Edit. Fortunately not everyone is like that.And fortunately, there are ways of saying it without calilng them names.

Well done Rob, you've saved people a few thousand dollars just with that small sample of emails - not to mention the emotional toll and disappointment.Thanks, monoman.

About that man's future daughter-in-law, I hope she changes her mind.All four emails were from women. And I asked that author to let me know what comes of the situation with her potential daughter-in-law.

As for you, Rob and helpers, I always think of John Walsh at the end of every America's Most Wanted Show, "remember, you CAN (and DO) make a difference!":)

Reading articles like that are a great way to start the day. Thanks RSL!Thank you!

Articles like this make me so proud to be an RSL groupie. :):o

Never mind... changed to a PM.Thanks for the correction - done!

As I've written before, though it is certainly worth repeating, you (and those that are helping you) make a difference. Money aside, saving just one person from the emotional toll someone like SB can exact on a victim I'd suggest is well worth your (et all) effort.I agree, Locknar.

As James Randi once said, they are what keeps you going in this line of work.That's for sure, although I am stubborn enough to keep going even without them. But they sure help!

Thanks Robert!

I cried tears of joy while reading those e-mails. :DThanks, Tamazon!

RSL, this: [snip] is totally unnecessary. You deserve all the pats on the back you (or anyone else) can give, for the work you have done with the SSB website!You're very kind, Jon. I would imagine that to some, it came off a little self-serving.

I think this is especially true when it comes to homeopathy. A great many people are simply ignorant of what it is. In my personal experience (real life, that is, not the JREF forum), everyone who has listened to me explain what it is ends up as outraged about it as I am.That's great!

As always, well done!Thanks, Jo!

If there was a god, you would be doing his work ;)Thanks, Senex!

It might not be a bad idea to print out the web address for www.StopSylviaBrowne.com (http://www.stopsylviabrowne.com/)and tuck it into every copy of Sylvia's books in our local libraries. Check back from time to time and refresh whenever needed. Hmm.....Others have asked me, both in the forum on via emails, if I think this is a good idea - putting bookmarks with the site's address in books at the library and/or book stores. I'm a bit torn. It may help spread word about the site, but I know I have not appreciated it when, in times past, I've found religious tracts inserted into books I've bought. Plus, I do not know whether it would be illegal in some way - considered littering, for example.

Most people go through life affecting only people they come in direct contact with, and those only in small ways. You have the knowledge that you have changed the world in some way even if it is only one person at a time.I think we all do, DR.

I don't know the English expression, but in my first language those e-mails would make the chest of Robert swell to the size of a gorilla.There is an expression in English, that someone's chest "swells with pride." No gorillas are mentioned, however. :D But thanks. And yes, emails like this certainly make me feel very good.

Whatever the above actually translates to in English, at least I hope that it makes his better half, when reading this, admire him even more despite him spending so much time on the web site. :)As she says below, she is very good about this. I doubt I could be doing this without her love and support.

You and me both, EM!Hey, but you're the only groupie with a full-access backstage pass! :D

It gives me the warm fuzzies inside to think of people keeping their hard earned cash rather than paying for SB's services.Me too, Ravdin.

Just this past Sunday he endured my friends' slide show of their trip to Australia because he knew I wanted him there.Actually, I was sort of in that third group that Senex desribed above... :D

He is every bit the "Good Guy" you all believe him to be. Oh, he's not perfect - but he is a genuine good guy.People, she only wrote this so she could guilt me into making a dinner run. "Gee, I would think that a really good guy would certainly go buy me some crunchy tacos..." :rolleyes:

Keep up the good work, sir. You're an inspiration to skeptics everywhere.Thanks, Loopus. You're very kind.

Many congratulations, Mr Lancaster.Thanks, Finnegan.

I always try to maintain my view that any individual has the ability to alter their beliefs, and so these reactions to your efforts are extremely inspiring.I think it is often a matter of finding the right approach, and the right time.

[EeneyMinnieMoe]

Actually, I was sort of in that third group that Senex desribed above... :D

...

People, she only wrote this so she could guilt me into making a dinner run. "Gee, I would think that a really good guy would certainly go buy me some crunchy tacos..." :rolleyes:



Try as you may to deflect and deflate compliments with self-deprecating humor, Robert, you won't fool me. Don't even try to deny it- I know how wonderful and smart and great you are! :)

You're the best. :D

[Senex]

Originally Posted by RSL's better half
Just this past Sunday he endured my friends' slide show of their trip to Australia because he knew I wanted him there.

Actually, I was sort of in that third group that Senex desribed above... :D

hehehe... Not only heroic but has his priorities straight ;)

[Worm]

There's a lovely pun on the word 'straight' lurking in there somewhere, but I won't sink that low...

[Empress]

Excellent article, Robert, and proof to those who insist that the site is not working. Clearly it is, and you have changed untold numbers of lives. For every email you receive there are probably dozens or hundreds of people out there who have had their eyes opened.

Excellent work, and I, too, am a RSL groupie! :D

[articulett]

RSL is a prophet of critical thinking --fighting the scourge of woo in some of it's most tenacious forms. So gentle; yet so effective.

RSL rocks. If I had a personal savior-- it would be RSL :)

[Kilgore Trout]

I'm with the third email in particular.

Who's awesome? You're awesome!

[ksbluesfan]

Your approach, RSL, makes all of the difference in the world. You present the evidence in a manner that encourages people to decide whether or not Sylvia Browne is what she claims to be. You deserve more than just a pat on the back. Great work!

[cj419666]

i agree bravo

[RSL's better half]

Actually, I was sort of in that third group that Senex desribed above... :D.


Since when have you kept your skeptical opinions to yourself? For very long, anyways? If this is true . . . I don't remember . . . did it work?

[RSL's better half]

RSL is a prophet of critical thinking --fighting the scourge of woo in some of it's most tenacious forms. So gentle; yet so effective.

RSL rocks. If I had a personal savior-- it would be RSL :)

Please don't go that far . . . he will become difficult to live with!

I do agree that RSL rocks, tho. And I'll agree that he is gentle and effective . . . :blush: oh dear . . .

[buzz lightyear]

RSL is a prophet of critical thinking --fighting the scourge of woo in some of it's most tenacious forms. So gentle; yet so effective.

RSL rocks. If I had a personal savior-- it would be RSL :)

Oh wobbert I wub you too.:o

Oops I forgot I am your ignore list and you wont wead dis.

Too bad, but watch out for the hair growing on your palms.

[RSLancastr]

Excellent article, Robert, and proof to those who insist that the site is not working.Thanks, Empress! (Hey, what happened to your penguin avatar?)

RSL is a prophet of critical thinking --fighting the scourge of woo in some of it's most tenacious forms. So gentle; yet so effective.I sounds like Dove soap! (Thanks, articulette)

I'm with the third email in particular.Thanks, KT.

Great work!Thanks, ksbf!

i agree bravoThanks, cj!

If this is true . . . I don't remember . . . did it work?:(

And I'll agree that he is gentle and effective . . . :blush: oh dear . . .See, you do remember! :)

[JoeTheJuggler]

I do realize this is some inside, marital reference, but I can't resist:

he is gentle and effective . . .
Gentle and effective? What is he, Metamucil?

:)

[buzz lightyear]

I do realize this is some inside, marital reference, but I can't resist:


Gentle and effective? What is he, Metamucil?

:)

I think you have hit the nail on the head there JoeThe Juggler.

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I know he works for me :D

[Cueshark]

I was incredibly overjoyed at reading those emails.

It was great to read everyone's comments too.

You are clearly having a profound impact on the Sylvia fans who read your site.

[Tanstaafl]

It's fabulous to see confirmation that the site is working. And I'll bet for every one that writes, there are ten more that don't.

[EeneyMinnieMoe]

I have a really great story that I thought everyone would like to hear about.

I have a friend who until recently didn't understand why I was so angry at meduims and psychic detectives and Sylvia Browne especially. He had a few looks at Robert's site before but refused to take it or my work seriously, even though he doesn't believe in most of the supernatural and never really believed in psychics. "I don't think it changes anyone's mind", "It just gives her more attention", "There are way bigger problems in the world and this is just one person in the world".

Recently, a close relative died and his mother, who believes in psychics but doesn't use their services except very occasionally, became obsessed with travelling to see Lisa Williams. He and his father had to work very hard to convince her not to go.

That and reading the recent article about the fiefighter's widow finally did it for him. He sent Robert fan e-mail yesterday. :)

If you ask me, Robert, that's your biggest "conversion". :) I never could change my friend's mind- but you did.

[RSLancastr]

What is he, Metamucil?Reminds me of one of my daughters' roomates. She is a tiny Asian, and a bit on the wacky side. Her friends sometimes refer to her as Nuprin ("Little. Yellow. Different.").

You are clearly having a profound impact on the Sylvia fans who read your site.At least some of them!

It's fabulous to see confirmation that the site is working. And I'll bet for every one that writes, there are ten more that don't.It seems likely.

If you ask me, Robert, that's your biggest "conversion". :) I never could change my friend's mind- but you did.I would imagine that you had a lot to do with that as well :D

Yes, his seeing it in his own mother must have brought home how people like Browne can further hurt people who are already in pain. And, I don't know if he had this attitude or not, but it is much harder to think "if they fall for it, it's their own fault" when it is someone you love. Kind of like my mom and the Kaz story.

[EeneyMinnieMoe]

Yes, his seeing it in his own mother must have brought home how people like Browne can further hurt people who are already in pain. And, I don't know if he had this attitude or not, but it is much harder to think "if they fall for it, it's their own fault" when it is someone you love. Kind of like my mom and the Kaz story.

Actually, he did. He used to say "How can anyone believe in her? They are just listening to her for fun and don't really believe her or they deserve it for being so stupid." Exactly like our friend Brattus.

Thank heavens his mother already thought Sylvia Browne was full of it and used her and John Edward as the negative example against Lisa Williams. Allthough that isn't much of an improvement- but at least she wasn't interested in spending $750 dollars.

[articulett]

changing people critical thinkers, one mind at a time.