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Undesired Walrus
28th May 2008, 07:19 AM
I'd pick Biden, given he is Mr Foriegn Policy. His style also offers a clear challange to the 'straight talk express' of McCain.
But watching the recent G.I Bill debate in the Senate, Obama appeared to name drop Sen.Webb quite a few times. A former republican and former marine, it would be a good choice and fit in with the bipartisan message. More here http://blogs.wsj.com/politicalperceptions/2008/05/26/political-wisdom-the-case-for-jim-webb-as-obamas-vp/
Then of course there is the white-working class to think of and Edwards has been tipped to deliver this. But he was picked as Kerry's youthful, inexperienced fresh face. To run on double inexperience would be dangerous.
Rob Lister
28th May 2008, 08:33 AM
Bill dickerson
Susan Gerbic
28th May 2008, 08:39 AM
How about a female candidate? Not Clinton.
Susan
Cleon
28th May 2008, 09:00 AM
I don't think a Clinton VP is in the cards, frankly. Too many bridges burnt, there.
John Edwards, I don't think, wants the second seat; he wants the whole enchilada, and if that means waiting until 08 or 12, so be it. He's a young(ish) guy, he can afford to be patient.
Gore already spent eight years as VP, I think he's content to play the role of "elder statesman" for the party. How the hell he got that role, I have no idea, but somehow that's how he's seen.
Bill Richardson makes sense in terms of policy, but I don't think he'd really contribute anything to the campaign.
Beyond that, the only two candidates I know off the top of my head are Biden and Nunn. Biden might have foreign policy experience, but there might be a perception of him as "old guard Democrat" that might hurt the "change" message.
The same is true for Nunn, but unlike Biden, there is a lot of respect for Nunn among conservatives and moderate Republicans, which could chip away at McCain's base of support.
From a strictly strategic standpoint, Nunn makes the most sense to me.
Lanzy
28th May 2008, 09:27 AM
So you Assume Obama wins?
Undesired Walrus
28th May 2008, 09:49 AM
The nomination yes.
Pookster
28th May 2008, 11:10 AM
From a strictly strategic standpoint, Nunn makes the most sense to me.
I'm leaning this way. I'm just not sure if Nunn wouldn't inadvertently undermine Obama in other ways on other issues.
David Wong
28th May 2008, 12:00 PM
FYI, former Virginia governor Mark Warner says he's being considered. I assume he was contacted at some point because it would be weird for him to say that othewise.
Rob Lister
28th May 2008, 12:06 PM
FYI, former Virginia governor Mark Warner says he's being considered. I assume he was contacted at some point because it would be weird for him to say that othewise.
for him to 'say' he's being considered means...no.
I liked Mark a little but his pronouncement puts him in the unlike column
Billdave2
28th May 2008, 12:32 PM
I will say he goes with Tommy Flanagan.:D
T.A.M.
28th May 2008, 01:49 PM
It was a tough call. I think Richardson and Biden are high on the list, but I think he will go with Sen. Evan Bayh.
Bayh is "change", he fits the demographic to bring in the "Hard Workin White Vote", and he was a Hillary supporter.
Sebelius and McCaskill are both excellent candidates, but he would risk alienating the Female Hillary supporters who would be pissed that he chose a female that wasn't Hillary.
TAM:)
TexasJack
28th May 2008, 01:52 PM
Evan Bayh
Undesired Walrus
28th May 2008, 01:54 PM
Webb would be a good candidate in 8 years, and reassure those affected by bittergate that he loves his guns too (His aid was arrested for carrying Webb's pistol). Strong southern accent, comical style, he has everything the bore Bayh doesn't.
skeptical
28th May 2008, 02:07 PM
Actually, I think the smartest choice for Obama would be a moderate Republican. My preference would be Chuck Hagel. I've heard him speak on numerous issues several times and he has always struck me as thoughtful and well informed, even on issues I didn't necessarily agree with him on. He's got foreign relations and intelligence experience and is old enough to help with the "experience" questions around Obama. He has been one of the few Republicans with enough balls to criticize the Bush administrations handling of the war in Iraq, which says a lot about his partisanship or lack thereof.
He has been mentioned as a possible cabinet member, so it is not too much of a stretch.
TexasJack
28th May 2008, 04:47 PM
I'm really suprised that at this point in the poll, that nobody has chosen Clinton. Also I'm disappointed that Bayh is not a choice, I really hate voting for other, which is now the leading option.
Upchurch
29th May 2008, 08:01 AM
An in depth analysis (http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=170163&title=obamas-running-mate) of Obama's potential running mate.
varwoche
29th May 2008, 09:06 AM
Edwards: No chance -- he shares Obama's inexperience.
Richardson: Possible. He has the experience and he helps out in western states. (And it would be fun to see Michelle Malkin have a conniption.) Except he seemed like a loose-lipped doofus in the debates. Ticket may be too 'colorful'.
Biden: No chance -- a northeast liberal who won't add an electoral vote
Nunn: Strong/possible choice
Sebelius: No chance -- no foreign policy credentials
Napolitano: Ditto
McCaskill: Ditto
Webb: Strong/possible choice
Gore: Not a chance. Cabinet maybe.
Clinton: Obama may be forced to pick her; if I had to lay a bet I'd say Clinton (and it will cause untold future misery if/when Obama wins)
A name I heard that made some sense was Admiral Zinni, except that he's a rookie.
ravdin
29th May 2008, 09:47 AM
Edwards already had the VP nomination and lost. I haven't forgotten his abysmal debate performance against Dick Cheney.
Clinton would be an interesting choice, but I don't know if the position would be offered or accepted. I don't want to see her get the VP nomination because I'm not a fan. But I have to concede that a lot of people think she's ready to be president, which is the most important qualification (the second most important qualification is the ability to cast a tie breaking vote in the Senate, which I don't doubt she can do.) Obama could do a lot worse than to pick her.
Location isn't everything. There are a lot of reasons that Dick Cheney was picked, but carrying the state of Wyoming wasn't one of them. Bill Clinton and Al Gore represented adjacent states in the South.
IMHO, Obama's best bet would be someone who is older and has military experience. One Democrat who leaps to mind is Wesley Clark. I'd be surprised if he's not already on the short list.
Brainster
29th May 2008, 11:06 AM
I'll probably take crap for mentioning this, but I don't think Janet Napolitano is a likely candidate. She's not married, and it's an open secret in Arizona that there's a reason for that.
Plus, of course, she's not going to turn Arizona blue.
Cleon
29th May 2008, 11:17 AM
A name I heard that made some sense was Admiral Zinni, except that he's a rookie.
And his name sounds like he should be working for Emperor Palpatine.
Badger
29th May 2008, 11:50 PM
Condoleezza Rice only because I think that'd be too cool.
She WAS a Democrat, once.
Hokulele
29th May 2008, 11:52 PM
Condoleezza Rice only because I think that'd be too cool.
She WAS a Democrat, once.
On that note, Colin Powell would be almost as cool. Or even Madaleine Albright.
Pookster
30th May 2008, 06:12 AM
Condoleezza Rice only because I think that'd be too cool.
She WAS a Democrat, once.
Too responsible for Bush's foreign policies. He might as well select Bush himself.
EvilSmurf
30th May 2008, 07:21 AM
On that note, Colin Powell would be almost as cool. Or even Madaleine Albright.
Albright is ineligible, she wasn't born in the United States.
My guess is Gov. Ted Strickland of Ohio.
Overman
5th June 2008, 12:16 PM
Wesley Clark.
Hokulele
5th June 2008, 12:18 PM
Albright is ineligible, she wasn't born in the United States.
D'oh!
Note to self, do your homework before taking the test.
gdnp
5th June 2008, 12:43 PM
The VP candidate has limited power. In some ways he/she can hurt more than help.
Clinton would have the advantage of bringing back into the fold some of her supporters that otherwise might defect to McCain. How many are out there that could be won back would depend on how vigorously she campaigns, much more likely if she is VP than if she is vying for a cabinet position. She does shore up his support with the white female demographic, which he needs. What may be her major plus is that she seems most comfortable in attack mode, a role often reserved for the VP candidate so that the presidential candidate can continue to look...presidential.
Her major downside are her high negatives. A large portion of the population hates her. How many Obama supporters would vote for McCain because they detest Hillary is debatable, however. She is also unlikely to win over many McCain supporters. How well a more conservative (white male) candidate could win over is also questionable, however.
Biden has run several times for president and barely broken double digits. Sam Nunn or George Mitchell? Respected but not particularly colorful. Edwards has said he doesn't want the job. He couldn't tip the balance for Kerry. Who says he could do better for Obama?
The big question is who could bring over enough of the Reagan democrats to cement the huge advantage that the Democrats hold coming into this election. McCain has to walk the tightrope of being loyal to an unpopular 2 term president without losing his maverick label, shoring up the support of skeptical conservatives, and winning over Reagan democrats.
SpitfireIX
5th June 2008, 01:18 PM
Albright is ineligible, she wasn't born in the United States. . . .
and neither of her parents was a US citizen.
mrbaracuda
5th June 2008, 01:50 PM
Al Sharpton!
OneShotKi11
5th June 2008, 02:23 PM
If Obama picks Hillery as his VP i will not voting this year.....
Darth Rotor
5th June 2008, 02:43 PM
A name I heard that made some sense was Admiral Zinni, except that he's a rookie.
Do you mean General Anthony Zinni, one each, retired United States Marine?
No, not an admiral.
David Wong
6th June 2008, 08:25 AM
Cross John Edwards off the list:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080606/D914HF100.html
gdnp
6th June 2008, 09:27 AM
There was a blurb on NPR this morning that Clinton and Obama might campaign together next week in some of the states she won. An audition, perhaps?
webfusion
6th June 2008, 02:06 PM
Albright is ineligible, she wasn't born in the United States.
For that matter, neither was John McCain.
(born in Panama)
My guess is Gov. Ted Strickland of Ohio.
Sounds reasonable.
I voted Kathleen Sebelius.
Complexity
7th June 2008, 12:57 AM
If Obama picks Hillery as his VP i will not voting this year.....
Ditto.
I'd like to vote Libertarian, but they picked a damned bigot, so the alternatives suck.
Actually, I'd probably vote, but write in someone for President. It is important to vote at each opportunity, if for no other reason than to vote against tax increases and school referenda.
Undesired Walrus
7th June 2008, 07:47 AM
Obama's been campaigning with Webb...
gdnp
7th June 2008, 09:17 AM
Obama's been campaigning with Webb...
Sounds like Barak may go on a few trial dates before he settles on who he takes to the prom...
Darth Rotor
7th June 2008, 09:51 AM
Obama's been campaigning with Webb...
I'll bet you two pints of Theakston's Best that Webb is not only not the VP for Obama, but isn't interested in the job.
Darn, there was a link to a remark Webb made a few days ago about not being interested in the job, but I can't find it. Grrrrrrrrrrr.
A comment on Webb from the Right, for your entertainment.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Yjc5MTE3ZTEwODRmMzk4ODc5ZWMyOTRkZWRkZGY5MDM=
DR
Undesired Walrus
7th June 2008, 10:14 AM
Perhaps some in the commentariat will find the idea of the first African-American nominee teamed with a true son of the Confederacy to be irresistible.
I sure do.
Webb surely must be the best buffer against McCain come November. That said, the media seem to be finding a Obama-Clinton ticket more likely.
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