"Living alien" video "to be released Friday 30 May"

[orphia nay]

Heard this today at a woo forum I visit:


http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/may/28/purported-ufo-video-be-shown-friday/

Phone home: Purported UFO video to be shown Friday
By Daniel J. Chacon, Rocky Mountain News (Contact)
Originally published 03:15 p.m., May 28, 2008

A video that purportedly shows a living, breathing space alien will be shown to the news media Friday in Denver.

Jeff Peckman, who is pushing a ballot initiative to create an Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission in Denver to prepare the city for close encounters of the alien kind, said the video is authentic and convinced him that aliens exist.

[...]

"It shows an extraterrestrial's head popping up outside of a window at night, looking in the window, that's visible through an infrared camera," he said. The alien is about 4 feet tall and can be seen blinking, Peckman said earlier this month.

In a statement, Peckman said "other related credible evidence" proving aliens exist will be shown at Friday's news conference, too.

[...]

But we won't be able to see the video until a Mr Stan Romanek's documentary is released, presumably for sale... :rolleyes:

[devnull]

I hope he realises that ET is still under copyright......

[sophia8]

www.stanromanek.com (http://www.stanromanek.com/):
The Stan Romanek case is the most scientifically documented human/extraterrestrial encounters in the world. There have been well over 100 individually unique experiences that Stan has encountered since December, 2000 that remain unexplainable. Being abducted is only one of many experiences. There have been hundreds of witnesses for dozens of events that defy our current understanding of reality. Witnesses, photographs, videotapes, physical evidence, police reports and scientific analysis have confirmed the validity of these experiences beyond reasonable doubt. Scientists from top universities have been analyzing various aspects of this case for several years with amazing results, expected to be presented to the public and scientific community in the near future.
(my bolding) Yawn.....

ETA: So what do you think of his "equations" (http://www.stanromanek.com/04)%20Stan's%20Mystery%20Equations%20Page_website/)?

This equation was given to Stan during his first abduction experience. It came out when Stan
was undergoing his first hypnotic regression in July, 2002. Included in the equation is a
formula depicting a helium atom bombarding element 115, which at the time did not exist. It
was years later before element 115 would be experimented with. Also included in the equation
is a depiction of our solar system represented by ten dots and a circle. It wouldn't be until
years later that scientists would discover a tenth planet in our solar system and name it, "Xenia"
or "Planet X". At the end of Stan's writing is the Drake Equation, first devised by Dr. Frank
Drake (now Professor Emeritus of Astronomy and Astrophysics at the University of California,
Santa Cruz) in 1960, in an attempt to estimate the number of extraterrestrial civilizations in our
galaxy with which humanity could potentially have contact. Somehow, with no prior knowledge
of Drake's equation, Stan drew it and added, "X 100," while under hypnosis!

[fuelair]

www.stanromanek.com (http://www.stanromanek.com/):

(my bolding) Yawn.....

ETA: So what do you think of his "equations" (http://www.stanromanek.com/04)%20Stan's%20Mystery%20Equations%20Page_website/)?
Well, that convinces me!!! Stan Romanek has definitely been anally probed!! That is the only explanation for that drivel!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp:D

[Locknar]

<snip> It shows an extraterrestrial's head popping up outside of a window at night, looking in the window <snip>In other words, ET is a Peeping Tom?

[Beerina]

"Living alien" video "to be laughed at Friday 30 May"

[Beerina]

cynic : n Someone who sees things as they actually are, not as they wish them to be. -- Ambrose Bierce

[wahrheit]

"It shows an extraterrestrial's head popping up outside of a window at night, looking in the window, that's visible through an infrared camera," he said.

Translation: A low res, blurry, out of focus, monochrome night shot.

*yawn*

[DaChew]

SETI has failed to find signs of life anywhere they've looked. All this proves is that Chuck Norris has already been there.

[NobbyNobbs]

SETI has failed to find signs of life anywhere they've looked.

Must be because they've got the telescopes pointed at the sky, instead of at the bushes outside the window.

:rolleyes:

[dudalb]

Hey I am excited about this.
Could be the laugh riot of the summer.

[I Ratant]

And to think I turned down the chance to be the US distributor for the "Alien Autopsy" video many years back.
The dollars I could have raked in since.
I bet I could get a whole gallon of gas with them today!

[Spindrift]

A 4 foot creature outside a window?

Was it October 31?

[grayman]

A 4 foot creature outside a window?

Actually there were two of them.

I've acquired footage of the space alien video:

Z4VNMERVsC4

[patchbunny]

Also included in the equation is a depiction of our solar system represented by ten dots and a circle. It wouldn't be until years later that scientists would discover a tenth planet in our solar system and name it, "Xenia" or "Planet X".

I'm sure many a child drawing our solar system has also done it with 10 planets.

If he'd wanted to impress folks with that knowledge, he'd have provided the mass, diameter, and orbital distance for the undiscovered planet. After all, wouldn't aliens know that?

[shadron]

ETA: So what do you think of his "equations" (http://www.stanromanek.com/04%29%20Stan%27s%20Mystery%20Equations%20Page_webs ite/)?

Sounds like Bridey Murphy with plasma physics thrown in.

[bryan]

Hello....

We have the unfortunate luck to live in Colorado the state that seems to create more bad "paranormal" evidence and tools than any other.

The Alien video's etc.. that will be released today have already been seen by my team and we have built a website showing just how easy this "evidence" is to create.

The original site is located at: (this does not have the alien video because of the "Documentary" that owns the ©)
stan romanek dot com
The recreations that we have done are at:
denveretcommission dot org

Sorry for the links, I have not posted enough to include a direct link. :(

Thanks,
The Rocky Mountain Paranormal Research Society

[orphia nay]

Greetings, Bryan.

Here's your link:

http://denveretcommission.org/

(I'm on incredibly slow dial-up at the moment, and the pics are taking ages to load, or I'd comment further.)

[chillzero]

It's not just your dial-up.

[brettDbass]

Nice work with the blinking in the "through the window" video.

Something tells me your website provides more convincing evidence than the original video(s) will contain. ;)

[Locknar]

Why do I get the feeling that Peckman is simply doing PR "hype" (ie. shill) for this Documentary?

[Showmeproof]

I admitt that was me looking in the window. I heard there was a hot MILF that walks around naked in her apartment, and I wanted to see.

[kosai]

You got your ghost orbs in my 'FO proof!!

[Nim Chimpsky]

Yes, the impact is being felt all over the world when the first ever ACTUAL alien on film was shown.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/may/30/alien-commission-causes-commotion/


And guess what? surprise, surprise

To skeptic Randy Bancroft, the creature looks a lot like the seminal "Gray," the creature in the 1957 movie "Earth vs. The Flying Saucers," which has a narrow chin, a broad forehead and almond eyes, not too different from the friendly alien in "E.T."

Randy Bancroft and fellow skeptic Bela Scheiber found it interesting that the creature was never seen from below the neck.


I did love the origin of the film:


The film showed a window, reportedly 8 feet off the ground in a rural Nebraska town in 2003.
It was shot by the homeowner, who had earlier reported seeing UFOs hovering above his house.
This time, he said he set up a camera because he feared a peeping tom was spying on his two teenage daughters


So apparently aliens are also horny.


http://www.rockymountainparanormal.com/ufo/windowpic.jpg

[Overman]

:alien011::alien012::alien003:

[Bikewer]

Don't the aliens have telephoto lenses?

[Monza]

...So what do you think of his "equations"?

Wow. Drake came up with the equation in 1960, and yet...somehow...this guy is able to write it in 2002. I think "aliens" is as good an explanation as any.

[TellyKNeasuss]

E.T. must have been thoroughly scouting this place, because it was also caught looking in another window!

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/may/30/alien-commission-causes-commotion/

[kosai]

After reading the article Telly posted I'd just like to offer a big welcome and thank you to new memeber Bryan, it's THAT kind of paranormal research groups that should exist country wide and you all did a fantastic job. Pulling the stunt off for $90 with a latex dummy from the costume shop is rather brilliant. I'm really glad Rockey Mountain News allowed the skeptic side to have their say considering I saw pricetags of $50,000 being floated about in other articles. Excellent work and I hope you'll stick around.

[Flesh]

:jaw-dropp IT'S CRYPTO! RUN!!!











Seriously though, this is a plug for Path of the Furon right?

[Gord_in_Toronto]

There was a segment on Larry King this evening about this apparition. Even Larry sounded skeptical!!

I'm waiting to see what the "scientists" and the "thousands of people with top security clearance" have to say. Assuming even one exists. :D

[Locknar]

Given the apparent stellar quality of the video clip, I think it only fitting we praise our new overlords...the 4ft tall Peep Tom ETs.

[Reed]

The Alien video's etc.. that will be released today have already been seen by my team and we have built a website showing just how easy this "evidence" is to create.

Thanks for re-creating the footage, Bryan, Baxter and other members of RMP!

I trust that you'll be addressing the topic in-depth at your upcoming Warning Radio netcast/podcast (http://www.warningradio.info/) on Monday evening?

[orphia nay]

Yes, the impact is being felt all over the world when the first ever ACTUAL alien on film was shown.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/may/30/alien-commission-causes-commotion/
[...]

I did love the origin of the film:

The film showed a window, reportedly 8 feet off the ground in a rural Nebraska town in 2003.
It was shot by the homeowner, who had earlier reported seeing UFOs hovering above his house.
This time, he said he set up a camera because he feared a peeping tom was spying on his two teenage daughters



So apparently aliens are also horny.

[...]

:D

She said it was unlikely it was just a puppet because "only in Hollywood can they make such realistic-looking puppets and they cost thousands of dollars.

"It's very unlikely that Stan would have done something like that."

No, Stan might not have, but a cheeky neighbour definitely might have.

If, in all likelihood, someone has pranked Romanek, I doubt they will come forward in the near future. They'd be having a great time seeing how much delusional mileage the UFO nutters are getting out of this.

[learner]

Since all aliens are 4 foot tall and these are reported to be so, i say real!! its a universal law dont you know.

[Diagoras]

Why do these aliens always look like they followed a conspicuously similar evolutionary path to, of all animals on earth, humans? If I ever encounter an intelligent being from another planet, I expect it to be so strange it doesn't even compare to any kind of terrestrial organism, and if it does, not to my species out of all of them.

[LostAngeles]

To:
UFO people, the Nessie people, the Bigfoot people, and the ghost people
CC: Anyone else with paranormal footage


In an age where I can watch some ****tard take a good video of him doing his girlfriend with a damn cellphone, this black and white grainy **** doesn't fly anymore.

Sincerely,
LostAngeles

[wahrheit]

To:
UFO people, the Nessie people, the Bigfoot people, and the ghost people
CC: Anyone else with paranormal footage


In an age where I can watch some ****tard take a good video of him doing his girlfriend with a damn cellphone, this black and white grainy **** doesn't fly anymore.

Sincerely,
LostAngeles
I've repeatedly said the same, but I prefer your 'colorful' way of saying it. :)

[LostAngeles]

I've repeatedly said the same, but I prefer your 'colorful' way of saying it. :)

Well, honestly, I have seen better quality video of Fred Durst's wingwong* than I have of any alien/ghost/Nessie/Bigfoot. I'm sorry, but in the age of digital cameras, Photoshop, Quicktime, and a lot of nice visual/audio tools being available to the public, that **** can't cut it anymore. Why wouldn't they jump all over the ability to make a GOOD VIDEO?

And why do people believe the bad ones still?


*I have Train Wreck Syndrome, leave me alone.

[wahrheit]

Why wouldn't they jump all over the ability to make a GOOD VIDEO?

The reason is obvious. As soon as you have high quality video, everybody can instantly see what it is. There's no room for weird speculation left. You need blurry/underexposed/grainy pictures to get room for wild interpretation.

(This post is kinda Captain Obvious. I know that you know the reasons for the bad quality vids.)

[LostAngeles]

The reason is obvious. As soon as you have high quality video, everybody can instantly see what it is. There's no room for weird speculation left. You need blurry/underexposed/grainy pictures to get room for wild interpretation.

(This post is kinda Captain Obvious. I know that you know the reasons for the bad quality vids.)

It is obvious, but I like to start from, "Assume that this is true." That's the point for those threads I've started. I know that proof from contradiction is supposed to generally be the harder way to do a proof, but I think it's a good starting point to think about a problem.

If these things were true, we should have nice, decent-quality video/pics of them in this day and age.

Because the intuitive assumption is that everyone everywhere thinks like you, I assume that everyone everywhere would expect, in this day and age, to see nice decent-quality video/pics of these phenomena.

And if these things are not true, because of my assumption, I would expect that the people would fake nice, decent-quality video/pics.

Since this doesn't happen, obviously, something is wrong with my assumption, namely, people are ****tards.


OK, ok. That I shouldn't expect everyone everywhere to think like me.:D

[SezMe]

In an age where I can watch some ****tard take a good video of him doing his girlfriend with a damn cellphone, ....
Some guy did his girlfriend with a cellphone? I'll bet it was set in vibrator mode. :)

[wahrheit]

For those who missed it (like me),

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_9427587

(Second video).

It's much, much worse and much, much more ridiculous than I thought.

[deep44]

I see two likely possibilities here:
The man who originally filmed the "alien" was the victim of a practical joke. That would mean that he is not lying, and the video is "authentic" (an authentic video of a fake alien).
The man who originally filmed the "alien" staged everything himself, and is lying to everyone else about it.Now technically, I can't prove that it isn't an alien from outer space, so I suppose that exists as very remote third possibility.. but I also can't prove that it's not a genetically mutated donkey-boy. So let's just call the third option "none of the above", and say it has the lowest possible non-zero probability.

All of that aside, the real story behind this video is irrelevant, because the video proves absolutely nothing in every scenario. Hypothetically speaking, even if that really was an alien from outer space peering through the window, an easily-faked video like this one wouldn't qualify as proof that it really happened.

---

This is mostly for amusement, but why are all of these "aliens" visiting Earth naked? Wouldn't they be afraid of disease, bacteria, or various other microorganisms? They have the technology to travel across the Universe, but they're not smart enough to protect themselves from a virus that could potentially wipe out their entire race? Ohhh.. maybe they're just smart enough to cure any possible disease. :D

[Dragoonster]

This is mostly for amusement, but why are all of these "aliens" visiting Earth naked? Wouldn't they be afraid of disease, bacteria, or various other microorganisms? They have the technology to travel across the Universe, but they're not smart enough to protect themselves from a virus that could potentially wipe out their entire race? Ohhh.. maybe they're just smart enough to cure any possible disease. :D

Wow, I've never thought about that. But you're right, they should be dressed in some really evolutionary advanced styles. :D

(Like others I'm also sick of the typical grey big head big eye bipedal thin chin archetype, I mean jeez, at least be creative).

About this story, I saw one of the documentary makers or owners or something on MSNBC or something a couple days ago, the reporter asked him why he'd actually be sitting on the video as it would be the most incredible news sensation of all time if it were true. The guy answered that the media tends to dismiss them or laugh at them in general and he wanted to present it along with all the "scientific evidence" or proof or something at one shot.

Which or course he could've done in that spot, but that seemed to have escaped him.

Thanks Bryan for the post and links!

[sophia8]

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/may/30/alien-commission-causes-commotion/

Oh look! A photo of the actual screen that they showed the 'alien video' on! I'm convinced - there really was a video shown there!

[grayman]

Oh look! A photo of the actual screen that they showed the 'alien video' on! I'm convinced - there really was a video shown there!

Evidence?

:)

[sophia8]

Evidence?

:)It's on teh interwebs!! Ain't that evidence enough for you, ya heathen athist g*dd*mm godless skeptik??

[shadron]

She said it was unlikely it was just a puppet because "only in Hollywood can they make such realistic-looking puppets and they cost thousands of dollars.

"It's very unlikely that Stan would have done something like that."

Well, it's obvious that this guy never tried out a Halloween costume store: http://www.nightmarefactory.com/alienmsk.html

[shadron]

Why do these aliens always look like they followed a conspicuously similar evolutionary path to, of all animals on earth, humans?

How in the world else would any of the faithful recognize them if they didn't look like they came from Roswell?

[grayman]

Why do these aliens always look like they followed a conspicuously similar evolutionary path to, of all animals on earth, humans?...
'cause Gawd made 'em.

[Joppy]

For those who missed it (like me),

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_9427587

(Second video).

It's much, much worse and much, much more ridiculous than I thought.

I just saw the story from Larry King here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlQsUqfVoaU

I am confused now. Larry says that CNN can't show the video, but then during the segment the alien video from the denverpost is shown. And the single frame of the video doesn't look like the same window from the denverpost video.

[Dragoonster]

How in the world else would any of the faithful recognize them if they didn't look like they came from Roswell?

That's true. In any event I hope we can all agree that they don't look like that, and also that this fact means chupacabra and bigfoot are real aliens.

[wahrheit]

I just saw the story from Larry King here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlQsUqfVoaU

I am confused now. Larry says that CNN can't show the video, but then during the segment the alien video from the denverpost is shown. And the single frame of the video doesn't look like the same window from the denverpost video.

The Denverpost one says "Alien video knockoff" before you click play, so I'd assume that CNN showed a single frame of the "real" video, just like the still frame credited to Stan Romanek on the Denverpost site.

Edith said I should clarify. The video at the Denverpost is the reenactment, the still frame at Larry King and Denverpost and others from the UFO nutcase enthusiast is this on:
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2008/0530/20080530_012652_Alien.jpg

[Dragoonster]

The Denverpost one says "Alien video knockoff" before you click play, so I'd assume that CNN showed a single frame of the "real" video, just like the still frame credited to Stan Romanek on the Denverpost site.

I also saw that single frame on some network this morning. Utterly and literally laughable, both the still's quality and the question of "what the hell was a superadvanced alien doing peeping through a window (especially without a tricorder!)".

Maybe it's a real alien, but the propreitors of the film are certainly not adding to the credibility. Reminds me of that Roswell Autopsy tape a decade ago. Except this one isn't generating nearly as much buzz.

[wahrheit]

... the question of "what the hell was a superadvanced alien doing peeping through a window (especially without a tricorder!)".

Just that, peeping.

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/5/30/imonyurplanet128566794123720686.jpg

[WildCat]

There was a segment on Larry King this evening about this apparition. Even Larry sounded skeptical!!

I'm waiting to see what the "scientists" and the "thousands of people with top security clearance" have to say. Assuming even one exists. :D
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/05/31/lkl.alien.debate.cnn

[jnelso99]

I remember another "peeping grey" video from some years back, maybe from the show "Sightings" or something like that. It sticks out in my mind because I think the room had 70's-style wood paneling. Beyond that my memory is hazy.

[Arus808]

Just that, peeping.

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/5/30/imonyurplanet128566794123720686.jpg


I knew it wouldn't take long for that photo be lolcat-ed

[SezMe]

This is mostly for amusement, but why are all of these "aliens" visiting Earth naked? Wouldn't they be afraid of disease, bacteria, or various other microorganisms? They have the technology to travel across the Universe, but they're not smart enough to protect themselves from a virus that could potentially wipe out their entire race? Ohhh.. maybe they're just smart enough to cure any possible disease. :DWhat makes you think they are naked? The reason all the ETs look alike is that the Milky Way Pest Control, Ltd has, most unfortunately, established a galaxy-wide monopoly on bug contamination protectoin suits that take the outward appearance of the greys. I thought everyone already knew that. :D

[Moochie]

My guess is that there's a video camera inside an alien puppet. Look for neighborhood sleazes who get off on peeping into other people's homes.


M.

[Monza]

On the Larry King show the ET video owner, Stan Romanek, stated that there was a video making the rounds on YouTube that looked like it was made from a costume from Walmart. The token skeptic on the show piped in and said he made that reenactment video. He also had the best line of the night, "That's OK. I think your's sucks too." :)

[UnrepentantSinner]

There was a segment on Larry King this evening about this apparition. Even Larry sounded skeptical!!

Ian Punnitt is slightly more skeptical than George Noorey (I know that's not saying much, but still) and when he was talking to a journalist who covered the "unveiling" his BS detector was in full alarm.

[HENTAI DOUKYUSEI JP]

So apparently aliens are also horny.



huh.....yeah......http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/2186348489d5a76f03.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12435)

Enough to make a sequel....
http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_2186348489d7fe133d.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12436)

[BBBill85]

Why is it that all I can think of is that TV special from ten years ago about the video tape the showed a family getting abducted by aliens. Then in the credits everyone is an actor except Micheal Shermer and that one UFO expert.

Alien Abduction or something like that.

[AtomicMysteryMonster]

I love the bit about needing thousands of dollars to create a puppet with blinking eyes. Yeah, because retooling the eye mechanism from a Douglas Fir talking Christmas tree (http://http://www.halloweenpropmaster.com/Dougie_head_hack.htm) or a ventriloquist dummy is oh so expensive...

Why is it that all I can think of is that TV special from ten years ago about the video tape the showed a family getting abducted by aliens. Then in the credits everyone is an actor except Micheal Shermer and that one UFO expert.

Alien Abduction or something like that.

and let's not forget how that's a remake of an obscure indie flick called UFO Abduction, footage from which was successfully passed off as being that of footage of a real alien abduction. You can see clips of it (and a news report about it) here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5BjoELpec3c). It's amazing how hard people fell for kids in black clothes and rubber masks.

[Arg9]

I love the bit about needing thousands of dollars to create a puppet with blinking eyes...

yeah, this made me laugh and twitch at the same time. Hell, the blinking eyes could be done for FREE with video editing software.

I saw Jeff on David Letterman last night and they only showed pictures of this. HAHA! What a freakin' joke.

[bryan]

Come join the gang from the RMPRS on Sat. July 26th for a lecture covering the recent events of "UFOs" and "Aliens" in Colorado and Denver. The lecture takes a critical look at a proposed "ET Commission" ballot initiative, the "evidence" being presented in support of the commission and the people behind the initiative that is being presented to the city council of Denver.

When: Sat. July 26th, 1pm - 5pm
Where: John Collins United Methodist Church
2320 S. Bannock St
Denver, CO 80223

[CptColumbo]

I'll be working in Mpls. that day otherwise I would be there.

[roseglass]

Come join the gang from the RMPRS on Sat. July 26th for a lecture covering the recent events of "UFOs" and "Aliens" in Colorado and Denver. The lecture takes a critical look at a proposed "ET Commission" ballot initiative, the "evidence" being presented in support of the commission and the people behind the initiative that is being presented to the city council of Denver.

When: Sat. July 26th, 1pm - 5pm
Where: John Collins United Methodist Church
2320 S. Bannock St
Denver, CO 80223

You mean people from Denver are still considering this space port thing?

[bryan]

Hello....

the answer is yes, and it looks like they are going to get this thing on the ballot. With the DNC coming to town they are really ramping up pushing this stupid agenda.

We are currently looking at the "Metatron Technology" that the chief proponent of the initiative is pushing as well.

If anyone has any info on it we would be grateful

Thanks,
Bryan

[roseglass]

Let me start you a thread so you can post about this.

Metatron Technology huh? Yeah, I've had more than a few people try to sell me that 'cosmik debris.'

[Father Dagon]

So apparently aliens are also horny.Isn't there any claims of extraterrestial life that IS NOT bad antrophormizing? Just one. Please. A extraterrestial creature getting excited over female teenagers makes much less sense than a human getting excited over galapagos turtles.

[ToddH]

Hmmm...looks like some dude standing at the window wearing a Punisher t-shirt.

[orphia nay]

Edit: Oops, wrong thread.

Edit #2: Actually, while I'm here... how did the meeting go, Bryan?

[Whiplash]

Just that, peeping.

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/5/30/imonyurplanet128566794123720686.jpg


This is awesome, well done!

[wahrheit]

This is awesome, well done!

I didn't make that, I only googled it because I was sure someone had already made something like this.