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crocodile deathroll
16th February 2003, 05:41 AM
Yes it is not a nuclear bomb or a nerve gas filled warhead or weaponized anthrax, but the good old humble box cutter or stanley knife.
http://www.smspower.org/smsreader/knife.jpg
You may find one in any disordered tool box, or even a little kiddie's pencil case to sharpen thier crayons and pencils of if they feel inclined, hijack an airliner.
But that can be done with just a pair of 30c shoe laces.
demon
16th February 2003, 12:02 PM
Saddam has thousands of them buried in desert bunkers.
Hans Blix just ain`t found the unaccounted for box cutters yet.
Next UN meeting Colin Powell will present a high resolution photo of a stanley knife near a pet shop. He hopes it will convince the French.
I cant see it somehow ;)
rockyroad
16th February 2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by demon
Saddam has thousands of them buried in desert bunkers.
Hans Blix just ain`t found the unaccounted for box cutters yet.
Next UN meeting Colin Powell will present a high resolution photo of a stanley knife near a pet shop. He hopes it will convince the French.
I cant see it somehow ;)
hidden in the tasteless humour is a good point - hardly takes high tech devices or complex chemistry to spread terror.
By the way - until the 11/9 incident I don't think I'd ever heard these things called "box cutters" - I realize now this is a U.S. slang for these. We here call them "utility knives" . I've never heard the term "stanley knife" unitil these posts - what's the origin (I'm guessing a company named Stanley)??
The Central Scrutinizer
16th February 2003, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by rockyroad
By the way - until the 11/9 incident....
What happened on November 9th??? ;)
rockyroad
16th February 2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer
What happened on November 9th??? ;)
Gosh - I've been curious about that myself for quite a while - I keep seeing that date mentioned over and over again though? It really is a mystery to me (perhaps a topic for the Paranormal forum?).
demon
16th February 2003, 05:59 PM
Rockyroad, as far as I know, Stanley Knifes have been around in the UK for years. Kind of a must for any guys tool box.
You know the kind of knife, two halves joined by a screw, interchangable blades. I worked as a carpet fitter for a time and used one all the time.
Guess Stanley was the guy who invented them.
The Box cutter in the picture isn`t a Stanley Knife as I understand them.
demon
edited to add....hey tasteless humour? It`s no less tasteless than Powell`s jokes at the UN;)
crocodile deathroll
16th February 2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer
What happened on November 9th??? ;)
Just to be technical
In Australia and the UK, the day in the month comes first then the month in the year and then the year itself, so WTC was attacked on 11-09-2001 but in America it is 9-11-2001.
16th February 2003, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by rockyroad
I've never heard the term "stanley knife" unitil these posts - what's the origin (I'm guessing a company named Stanley)??
Originally posted by demon
Guess Stanley was the guy who invented them.
The Box cutter in the picture isn`t a Stanley Knife as I understand them.
The Stanley Works (http://www.stanleyworks.com/)
Stanley Utility Knives (http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp?TYPE=CATEGORY&CATEGORY=RETRACTABLE)
In 1843, an enterprising businessman named Frederick Trent Stanley established a little shop in New Britain, Connecticut to manufacture door bolts and other hardware from wrought iron. Stanley's Bolt Manufactory was only one of dozens of small foundries and other backyard industries in town struggling to make a go of it by turning out metal products. But Stanley possessed a special innovative spirit and an uncommon passion for doing things right and his modest enterprise prospered and grew as The Stanley Works.
crocodile deathroll
16th February 2003, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by demon
Rockyroad, as far as I know, Stanley Knifes have been around in the UK for years. Kind of a must for any guys tool box.
You know the kind of knife, two halves joined by a screw, interchangable blades. I worked as a carpet fitter for a time and used one all the time.
Guess Stanley was the guy who invented them.
The Box cutter in the picture isn`t a Stanley Knife as I understand them.
demon
edited to add....hey tasteless humour? It`s no less tasteless than Powell`s jokes at the UN;)
You mean one of these http://www.mutr.co.uk/Graphics/Images/Main/0508.jpg
Truzi
16th February 2003, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by rockyroad
I don't think I'd ever heard these things called "box cutters" - I realize now this is a U.S. slang for these. We here call them "utility knives" .
Odd, I've lived in the US all my life and I always called them Utility Knives - I never liked the term box cutter.
crocodile deathroll
17th February 2003, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by Truzi
Odd, I've lived in the US all my life and I always called them Utility Knives - I never liked the term box cutter.
Same here, when I was a kid the utility knife I bought the words "utility knife" was clearly displayed on the packet and that is what I always called them. It wasn't a Stanley but a cheap substute and "Stanley knife" was a much later vernacular.
The one in the first illustration I always referred to as not a utility knife but an NT cutter (http://www.delistools.co.nz/ntcutters.htm) I am not sure what you call them over there, but that would probably be the type that was used by the terrorists as the longer length of blade would be far more effective.
Hypocolius
17th February 2003, 03:51 AM
Originally posted by crocodile deathroll
Just to be technical
In Australia and the UK, the day in the month comes first then the month in the year and then the year itself, so WTC was attacked on 11-09-2001 but in America it is 9-11-2001.
Not just there, but most other places as well, though South Africa starts with the year.
demon
17th February 2003, 09:48 AM
Hi Croc:
"You mean one of these"
Yes, that`s a Stanley Knife. Got to treat them with respect too. One false move and you are off work for a few days.
demon
rockyroad
17th February 2003, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by Hypocolius
Not just there, but most other places as well, though South Africa starts with the year.
Yes - same in Canada - almost everywhere in the world except the U.S. I believe - it was my feeble attempt at an ironic point actually; it's a real pain dealing with U.S. dates - one always has to check carefully to figure out what they mean (not so hard when it is 30/10/xx I guess, but one's like 9/11/xx just are too ambiguous). Why one wouldn't use a logical order of day/month/year escapes me (imagine doing time as hours/seconds/minutes - it seems the same logic to me?)
Stanley Knives - Utility Knives - Box Knives; thanks for all the info; It's good to know that in the U.S. "utility knife" is also widely used.
rockyroad
17th February 2003, 06:44 PM
damn - see how confusing this U.S. date system is!! I meant to write - not so confusing when it is 10/30/xx not 30/10/xx !!!:rolleyes:
crocodile deathroll
17th February 2003, 07:06 PM
Here is an American weapon of mass destruction
The USS Abraham Lincoln
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2002/iraq/bases/images/lincoln.jpg
Can anyone estimate how many utility knives can be made out of this?
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