June 2008 Stundies

[Unsecured Coins]

bring it.

[defaultdotxbe]

SPreston on the JREF downtime

Maybe the CIA has pulled the plug. They are not too bright anyway and have screwed up just about every task they have been given.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=83213&t=314768

[volatile]

SPreston on the JREF downtime


http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=83213&t=314768

Noooo! Seriously? They have a conspiracy theory about the JREF forum crash?

The inanity knows no depth.

[Horatius]

I've discovered a new vein of Stundieness, right in my own backyard. There were some good ones in May, wish I had found it sooner. Here's one for June. matt at the Ottawa 9/11 truth forum: (http://www.ottawa911truth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59#p314)


Don't worry about the RCMP - they will continue to be our greatest allies. Remember, while the system is compartmentalized, a LARGE majority of police are awake - plus, we've given them enough evidence (truth DVDs) such that they have no excuses to be asleep any longer:ugeek:

As mike at work said, officials will see what we're all about now. We're with the good guys!


I mean, seriously, look at this one from May: (http://www.ottawa911truth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=53#p207)

There are obvisous occult symbols in Quebec City. The Hotel du Parlement shows this, from top to bottom: Québec flag, crown of England on top of a pyramidal structure, 4 cross on 4 round pillars, crest, clock, christian statues, important members of church and state, and on the ground are Indian American warriors and am Indian American fisherman.

Damn those occult Christians! And how dare a government building have statues of important members of the state!


ETA: and they've found the twoofer's ultimate weapon: something called a "Youtube Battle" (http://www.ottawa911truth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=57).

ETA again: You can't make up **** as funny as this:

Well the Youtube event was good, we got our group name out there. Of course we got a good dose of how twisted our culture is: we lost to a "smell my dick" video.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

deep44 continues the truthers' long tradition of redefining words to mean what they want them to mean...

Regarding your "face value" comment, yes, they probably are giving their opinion based on what they're seeing at face value - that's called objectivity.

[Dave Rogers]

OK, I'll just copy this across from the May thread, because it actually came out on June 1st. David Ray Griffin demonstrates that the one thing a truther should never acquire is a sense of proportion.

http://www.ny911truth.org/ (http://www.ny911truth.org/)

STATEMENT OF SUPPORT FOR THE NYC BALLOT INITIATIVE
David Ray Griffin

[...]

If you help get this initiative on the ballot, your name will surely be included in the universe's list of heroes.


Not just the USA, but the whole universe wants to know the truth about 9-11!

Dave

[Shrinker]

Did a windowless drone hit the WTC? This photo (http://www.911hoax.com/FEMA_WTC5.jpg) of wrecked plane fuselage with windows would strongly suggest not. Unless you're LCF poster 'EOR' that is...


what says that this windowless drone didn't have this piece inside before it hit the tower?


link (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=84301&t=317589)

[Par]

SPreston on the JREF downtimeMaybe the CIA has pulled the plug. They are not too bright anyway and have screwed up just about every task they have been given.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=83213&t=314768Noooo! Seriously? They have a conspiracy theory about the JREF forum crash? The inanity knows no depth.


That’s awesome. I had written the following, but decided to not to post it as it wasn’t all the interesting.

I was wondering, have any truthers – or irrationalists of any stripe, for that matter – claimed that the recent forum closure was because “the heat was getting too much” or anything like that? I ask as understand similar claims have been made in the past. So I suppose it’s quite conceivable.

[16.5]

SPreston on the JREF downtime

I call fake! That could not have been SPRESTON! There were not ten graphics attached to the bottom of that post that have virtually nothing to do with the topic at hand!

DISINFO!

/on the other hand, that might have been the first SPreston post anyone, including the Twoofers, actually read.

[Sabrina]

I want to nominate THIS gem by RPIR in the thread about Michael Richards being part of the Freemasons, wherein people offer about the same amount of proof that Ron Paul is a Freemason that RPIR has offered in the past for his wild accusations and theories while expecting us to blindly fall in line with them...


Originally Posted by ronpaulisright
He is not a mason because there is no proof. There is nothing there to convince me.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...45#post3751845

The sheer irony is too delicious to pass up. Whenever we get the June thread going, that's a keeper.

[eromitlab]

This one started May 30 but has carried over through the downtime into June... theauthor defines 9/11 denial with a single sentence (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3747791&postcount=5).
Do you have any evidence that most truthers cry "911 was an inside job!"?

[fullflavormenthol]

This one started May 30 but has carried over through the downtime into June... theauthor defines 9/11 denial with a single sentence (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3747791&postcount=5).
Its got my vote already.

[Elizabeth I]

ETA again: You can't make up **** as funny as this:

Well the Youtube event was good, we got our group name out there. Of course we got a good dose of how twisted our culture is: we lost to a "smell my dick" video.



Thanks, Horatius - I had just said on the "Michael Richards is a Mason" thread that one of rpir's posts made me laugh harder than I had for a week, but this one just topped that. I laughed so hard that my husband came to see what was up, and then he laughed so hard he couldn't stand up.

[Travis]

I submit something strange. It seems ronpaulisright just kinda forgot to finish writing his thought.

You people need to seriously differentiate between Conspiracy theories and crap. Elvis, chemtrails, Area 51 Etc. Are crap, NAU, NWO, and

[LashL]

deep44 continues the truthers' long tradition of redefining words to mean what they want them to mean...

So, subjectivity = objectivity in twooferville, apparently.

Oi veh.

[Bobert]

SPreston on US losing wars on purpose!!!
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=115156
What makes you think the losing in Iraq and Afghanistan is not deliberate and planned? What makes you think the losing in Korea and VietNam was not deliberate and planned?
How does a mind break this far from reality?

[Elizabeth I]

SPreston on US losing wars on purpose!!!
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=115156

What makes you think the losing in Iraq and Afghanistan is not deliberate and planned? What makes you think the losing in Korea and VietNam was not deliberate and planned?

How does a mind break this far from reality?

We lost in Korea? I thought everybody just got tired and agreed to postpone hostilities for a while.

[LashL]

ETA again: You can't make up **** as funny as this:


Well the Youtube event was good, we got our group name out there. Of course we got a good dose of how twisted our culture is: we lost to a "smell my dick" video.




Oh, my! :jaw-dropp

Better screen shot that one for posterity!

[pomeroo]

We lost in Korea? I thought everybody just got tired and agreed to postpone hostilities for a while.



Of course we lost in Korea. We lose everywhere except actual battlefields.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Of course we lost in Korea. We lose everywhere except actual battlefields.

Same could be said of Vietnam.

[pomeroo]

This one started May 30 but has carried over through the downtime into June... theauthor defines 9/11 denial with a single sentence (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3747791&postcount=5).


Well, is it a spectacular piece of imbecility worthy of the poster with many handles, or was he merely asking if most, meaning 99%, twoofers say that 9/11 was an inside job, as opposed to all twoofers?

[eromitlab]

Or, is it a weak attempt to memory-hole "9/11 was an inside job" as the twoof movement's primary chanted slogan and replace it with some flavour of "we need a new 9/11 investigation (that shows how it was an inside job)"?

[HENTAI DOUKYUSEI JP]

I've discovered a new vein of Stundieness, right in my own backyard. There were some good ones in May, wish I had found it sooner. Here's one for June. matt at the Ottawa 9/11 truth forum: (http://www.ottawa911truth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59#p314)



I mean, seriously, look at this one from May: (http://www.ottawa911truth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=53#p207)



Damn those occult Christians! And how dare a government building have statues of important members of the state!


ETA: and they've found the twoofer's ultimate weapon: something called a "Youtube Battle" (http://www.ottawa911truth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=57).

ETA again: You can't make up **** as funny as this:
Originally posted by V for vick:
We did well, we learned a bit, KEEP IT UP!!
Are these Idiots this serious??????:D

[Redtail]

RPiR with "If it ain't on teh interwebz it caint be true!!11!"

You're not funny dude.

I have found every other person that was rumored to be a CFR member, to actually BE, A CFR MEMBER!

I am not convinced. I haven't found a single youtube video of him being CFR, wikipedia article, Etc. Nothing that says he is a CFR member. He's not. I will be skeptical of any "evidence" you bring forth anyway.

[Horatius]

Are these Idiots this serious??????:D



Aren't all idiots serious?


I'm thinking about dropping by one of their events. Long black trench coat and all.....;)

[DGM]

Jammonius in the "debris pile thread" posted this picture in response to claims that the basements of the towers were full of debris:

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_17074484a70a6e95b2.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12450)

And states:

Here, for rank starters, then, is the Warner Bros. Store that was located on the first sub-basement level -- that is, the level closest to the surface, right underneath the towers -- what debris?

Problem is the picture was taken at "hanger 17"@ Kennedy airport.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3756448#post3756448

[bje]

"It amazes me how "debunkers" keep saying provide proof. First off, do these same people ask those who believe in God or Jesus to provide proof of their existence? Do any of them believe in God themselves? If so, prove to me that the God you pray to exists. Exactly, you can't, but you believe it, and that's enough for you, so why can't people believe that what we have been told happened on 9/11 is not the truth?"http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread360600/pg1

:hb: (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread360600/pg1)

[defaultdotxbe]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread360600/pg1

:hb: (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread360600/pg1)
wow, i think every paragraph in that post deserves a nom

[l0k0]

David Icke is 78.5% correct about everything, and I support what he's doing. He's one of the hardest working conspiracy theorists out there. Have you seen the size of his books? Not to mention his epic 7hour+ lectures!
Link (http://digg.com/politics/David_Icke_on_the_9_11_7_7_False_Flag_Terror_Attac ks)

[Cl1mh4224rd]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread360600/pg1


Wow. I think that may be the first time I've actually seen a truther express a desire for 9/11 Truth to be treated like a religion by others.

Maybe they should start a church...

[1337m4n]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread360600/pg1

:hb: (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread360600/pg1)

I understand people wanting to believe in God, because for some that gives them a sense of purpose, meaning, and security in life...

...why the heck would you WANT to believe in 9/11 woo, simply boggles the mind. I'd think that if we were basing our beliefs on what we WANTED to be true, rather than what actually WAS true, shouldn't EVERYONE believe the "official story"?

[1337m4n]

Link (http://digg.com/politics/David_Icke_on_the_9_11_7_7_False_Flag_Terror_Attac ks)

78.5%?

Wow. I didn't know it was possible to measure correctness that accurately.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

78.5%?

Wow. I didn't know it was possible to measure correctness that accurately.

It is 76.34%. What an idiot that guy is. :boggled:

[Bobert]

Wow. I think that may be the first time I've actually seen a truther express a desire for 9/11 Truth to be treated like a religion by others.

Maybe they should start a church...

I will throw in the Kool Aid!

[Bobert]

Waldo of the CIT speaking on one of his own "witnesses"
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=87686&t=327800
What he believes and what he saw are two completely different things.

[MarkyX]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread360600/pg1

:hb: (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread360600/pg1)

We should post that on Wikipedia as a perfect example of a Strawman Argument.

[eromitlab]

Jammonius in the "debris pile thread" posted this picture in response to claims that the basements of the towers were full of debris:

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_17074484a70a6e95b2.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12450)

And states:



Problem is the picture was taken at "hanger 17"@ Kennedy airport.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3756448#post3756448

Given that, the best part of that post becomes the end of the first paragraph...
Posters should not rely on overt deception here. It does not advance your cause.
If truthists didn't rely on overt deception, what would they even have to talk about?

[Bobert]

If truthists didn't rely on overt deception, what would they even have to talk about?
Who has the best weed?

[VespaGuy]

I found this one to lack a whole lot of foresight :

Well you need to know that the bush administration knew that there were talks of an impending attack on the United states and israel yet they did nothing. It was not a surprise when it happened. They were warned. [B]The argument can be made that they let it happen and they knew it was gonna happen. The intelligence was there to prevent it if they weren't so incompetent. I don't call it incompetence, I call it negligence. And negligence is why I wish all of those scumbags would have been fired bush cheney rice, All of them.

Anyway I would suggest the cause be bringing the troops home overseas. We will remain on a hunger strike until all of American troops come home from overseas and no more money goes to the military bases we have over there. Like Germany, and korea and such. That's a hunger strike that I like. But it has to be in the thousands.

That's right folks... ronpaulisright thinks that his government killed thousands of its own citizens to set a precedent for a war. His solution is to get thousands of citizens to threaten to kill themselves!! That'll show them ronpaulisright!!!

[OldTigerCub]

RonPaulisRight is on a roll....apparently China is going to save the world (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3758242&postcount=258)from terrorist groups in the Middle East:
If Israel is no longer a country or state or whatever the hell they call themselves , It is no sweat off my balls. If people get killed than I am not for that. Besides if hezbollah tried to gain prominance and attack the US. We will have daddy china come down on hamas or hezbollah like a hurricane. China will beat the tar out of hamas for us.

[fullflavormenthol]

RonPaulisRight is on a roll....apparently China is going to save the world (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3758242&postcount=258)from terrorist groups in the Middle East:
Be careful. He might accuse you of being a corporate shill for Fox News and Rupert Murdoch.

[OldTigerCub]

Be careful. He might accuse you of being a corporate shill for Fox News and Rupert Murdoch.

That's ok....I am!:cool:

Edit: The paychecks are still in the mail, though...at least that's what FOX and Murdoch said....

[fullflavormenthol]

An agnostic/nihilist should, in theory, not care about anything.



You obviously care about SOMETHING--your very screename is evidence of that.



Therefore I am disinclined to believe you when you say you are an agnostic nihilist.
I am not doing anything about it. So yeah, I am a agnostic/nihilist.



I voted for Ron Paul and agree with him on almost every issue. That's about it.


Ronpaulisright...Nominated as the best expression of the mindset of a twoofer.

[Mel Odious]

Apparently, majicdragon at the David Icke forums knows something about building implosions the rest of the world doesn't:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=376181&postcount=10

It was the thermate taking out the main steel support before the explosives were used to demolish the buildings.

if you were to blow up buildings without taking out the main steel structure, the building would still blow up, but the structure would be left.

(Eligibility note: "04-06-2008" is June 4th, not April 6th)

[Mel Odious]

Also from the David Icke forums: christophera informs us that 9/11 was in the planning stages for over 35 years!!!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=377056&postcount=17

The conclusion of this post reads:

Every phenomena explained in detail. All it depends upon is the infiltration of the US government before 1966 by a faction capable and secrecy adequate to design and construct such building for the purpose of eventual demolition.

[eromitlab]

Clearly, they are still holding back that part of Operation Northwoods.

[OldTigerCub]

Clearly, they are still holding back that part of Operation Northwoods.

Just wait 'til "Operation South Park" hits the fan...:rolleyes:

[OldTigerCub]

Ronpaulisright...Nominated as the best expression of the mindset of a twoofer.

Can I second that? Please? (the title pixies said I could!):rolleyes:

[abenja1]

I think this a no contest now. Just read this post:

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3758831&postcount=314

[fullflavormenthol]

The AP article came from my thoughts. Which are always right.


This is the one abenja1 is talking about. The contest is over ronpaulisright is clearly the winner.

[fullflavormenthol]

I stand by everything I have typed.

My thoughts are superior than sheep peoples. Plain and simple.

If you people just watched the 29 episodes of the "empire of the city" documentary, you will see that I am right.

Abenja1, oldtigercub and fullflavormenthol, I challenge you 3 to watch these episodes and see the truth. You will then see that everything you THOUGHT was true, is not.

Here I'll start you guys off on a journey to discover the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAcxGD6-c-E

You're welcome.
I think it is against the rules to post your own stundies directly to the stundies board, but if I am not mistaken you posted these before, and yes indeed I wasted my time watching over 3 of them. Nonsense really.

You want to understand my attitude, than I challenge you to watch this youtube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLDQOVrtgJ4

[Hokulele]

OK, back to the real purpose of this thread (and thanks, Travis :)).

Theauthor demonstrating exactly what is wrong with the CT mindset.

I still think the one about ogvernment workers at the pentagon is not right. Even the most stupid person (ie a debunker) would not say that. He must mean something else.


Translation: I don't like this, so it can't be right.

[MarkyX]

I stand by everything I have typed.

My thoughts are superior than sheep peoples. Plain and simple.

If you people just watched the 29 episodes of the "empire of the city" documentary, you will see that I am right.

Abenja1, oldtigercub and fullflavormenthol, I challenge you 3 to watch these episodes and see the truth. You will then see that everything you THOUGHT was true, is not.

Here I'll start you guys off on a journey to discover the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAcxGD6-c-E

You're welcome.

I clicked on a random timeline in that video and it started talking about the LOTR Two Towers movie and 9/11.

I stopped it immediately.

[abenja1]

To get back on topic I nominate:
Originally Posted by ronpaulisright
The AP article came from my thoughts. Which are always right.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

To get back on topic I nominate:
Originally Posted by ronpaulisright
The AP article came from my thoughts. Which are always right.


fullflavormenthol beat you to it. Post #52 on this page (2).

[gumboot]

Subliminal cheating!

In the game, the creators made a code that you can "cheat" and skip levels. The hidden message is that you can cheat in the game. The message is cheat on your wife, cheat in life and cheat on your taxes.

[1337m4n]

I clicked on a random timeline in that video and it started talking about the LOTR Two Towers movie and 9/11.

I stopped it immediately.

Hmmm...sounds like the video is a Stundie nominee in and of itself.

In fact, what the heck. I nominate RPiR's video for a Stundie.

[Alferd_Packer]

Keep in mind, we know that this volume of material has to be accounted for:

http://drjudywood.co.uk/articles/DEW/dewpics/1di7_TwinTowers.jpg

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3761556&postcount=290

Wow.

[Par]

Subliminal cheating!


Superb, of course, but it needs more context:

What about Aladdin for sega genesis? Doesn't that have subliminal messages of cheating on your wife?In the game, the creators made a code that you can "cheat" and skip levels. The hidden message is that you can cheat in the game. The message is cheat on your wife, cheat in life and cheat on your taxes.

[Bobert]

I would like to put in an early vote for RPIR!
Nice job RPIR!!!

[Furi]

I think the entire "Vote Ron Paul" thing was just subliminal advertising and desensetisation working up to this moment, for ages nothing, and then all of a sudden RPIR tries to saturate the nominees,

do I thmell a conthpirathy.

[GlennB]

It seems almost cruel to nominate SPreston at LCF ... but .. ah here we go :D

here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/308450/8/)

Our dear, sweet SPreston gets mixed up between reality and Star Trek.

"The decoy aircraft flew over the Navy Annex and north of the Citgo according to multiple eyewitnesses, and did not hit the Pentagon, and must have flown over the Pentagon or just disappeared with a cloaking device"

It's bolded and red, but does the font size meet up with SPreston's standards? Happy to take advice on this.

[defaultdotxbe]

It seems almost cruel to nominate SPreston at LCF ... but .. ah here we go :D

here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/308450/8/)

Our dear, sweet SPreston gets mixed up between reality and Star Trek.

"The decoy aircraft flew over the Navy Annex and north of the Citgo according to multiple eyewitnesses, and did not hit the Pentagon, and must have flown over the Pentagon or just disappeared with a cloaking device"

It's bolded and red, but does the font size meet up with SPreston's standards? Happy to take advice on this.
im still waiting for one of them to claim to have detected the tachyon emissions from analyzing a youtube video

[EventHorizon]

My thoughts are superior than sheep peoples. Plain and simple.




I don't know if fullflavormenthol officially nominated this or not, but I want to make it official, specifically these two sentences. Why is it people who will blindly believe anything they are told without a shred of evidence are the first to call other people sheep?

[chillzero]

Posts split to AAH (I doubt it will be a civil disucssion if new thread is created). This thread is not for discussing the posts nominated, rather to nominate them for future voting.

[Pato2747]

wow, i think every paragraph in that post deserves a nom

Every word, spacing and punctuation deserves a nomination.

[Pato2747]

To get back on topic I nominate:
Originally Posted by ronpaulisright
The AP article came from my thoughts. Which are always right.

This one HAS to be on the finals.

[bonavada]

"Smell my dick" is up there with the classics and a dead cert this month but I'd thought I'd chip in with Dom DeMaggs contribution to the madness HERE (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/331474/1/#new).....

harry shearer (simpsons writer) is a well known bohemian grove member. just sayin how far on the inside some of the simpsons writing staff is.......

.....yes folks Homer's in on it too.

BV

[Bobert]

It seems almost cruel to nominate SPreston at LCF ... but .. ah here we go :D

here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/308450/8/)

Our dear, sweet SPreston gets mixed up between reality and Star Trek.

"The decoy aircraft flew over the Navy Annex and north of the Citgo according to multiple eyewitnesses, and did not hit the Pentagon, and must have flown over the Pentagon or just disappeared with a cloaking device"

It's bolded and red, but does the font size meet up with SPreston's standards? Happy to take advice on this.

MAN June is gong to be a good month for the truth movement!
:D

[l0k0]

I doubt this will compete with some of the other gems you've guys have found, but it is still hilarious, and shows how incapable truthers are of using basic logic and common sense.
no one said everyone in the media. I said the media is not what you would call a "free press". It is obviously controlled. You don't have to controll all of the reporters and camermen to control what the media reports. You only have to control the editors.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=88944&t=265029

[abenja1]

I doubt this will compete with some of the other gems you've guys have found, but it is still hilarious, and shows how incapable truthers are of using basic logic and common sense.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=88944&t=265029

The quote you posted is pretty damn loony. If anything it should get a silver trophy.

[abenja1]

I have no idea what was moved to AAH, but the Studies Awards are in and of themselves not civil.


:boggled:

It could be argued they are uncivil. But when truthers call for the deaths, harassment, and imprisonment of all those who disagree, I think that's pretty uncivil on their part.

[Mel Odious]

This isn't stundie eligible, but it's still good for a chuckle:

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=4254

It wasn't until the seventh post that anyone noticed what was wrong with that picture.

[l0k0]

Observant1, redefining ignorance one comment at a time by comparing the OKC bombing to the collapse of WTC 7. The context makes this one even more hilarious if you read the preceding comments.
GFY Hitlermer you idiot, the Murrah building was blown up the same way, with glass and debris blown OUT into the street, not blown IN by a truck bomb made with a bunch of fertilizer as the "official story" tries to proclaim. what next for a "credible source" from you, popular mechanics? idiot.
Link (http://digg.com/political_opinion/what_happened_to_wtc7?t=15907047#c15944788)

[Travis]

This isn't stundie eligible, but it's still good for a chuckle:

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=4254

It wasn't until the seventh post that anyone noticed what was wrong with that picture.

Screenshot that first post and it would be eligible. Fricking hilarious!

[funk de fino]

This posted by Jammonius in the piles at GZ thread. While trying to argue the case for the piles being flat and less than 1 storey he/she comes out with this belter.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=115033&page=9

There was one witness who confirmed my assessment that GZ was <1 storey; albeit, that witness said 1 to 2 storeys:


So the witness confirmed it was less than 1 storey by saying it was between 1 and 2 storeys?

That thread is the best example of delusional I have ever seen on here.

[boloboffin]

From SLC.Blogspot, this interesting history lesson from woo (http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user=%20screwloosechange%20&comment=572955927369489302#155480):

do you know that radical islam was supported and actually started by CIA?

Edmund Standing's rebuttal (http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user=%20screwloosechange%20&comment=572955927369489302#155656) is also rather priceless.

[GlennB]

This posted by Jammonius in the piles at GZ thread. While trying to argue the case for the piles being flat and less than 1 storey he/she comes out with this belter.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=115033&page=9

So the witness confirmed it was less than 1 storey by saying it was between 1 and 2 storeys?

That thread is the best example of delusional I have ever seen on here.

Inadmissible.

There must be some limit to stupid, and this has passed the threshold (but, if it makes it past the judge, you might have my vote :D )

[X]

This is the first time I've nominated someone for a Stundie.
Not because it's inane or wrong, but because of the standards of debate displayed.


In reply to this (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3757882&postcount=202) post, by Abenja1:

The colonists didn't think present America belonged to them because some imaginary monkey told them so. You can't compare the colonists to the Zionists.

I was hoping you didn't know about the taxil hoax. I see I didn't fool you.



In other words, ronpaulisright has no problem with lying, only with getting caught.

[Alferd_Packer]

This isn't stundie eligible, but it's still good for a chuckle:

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=4254

It wasn't until the seventh post that anyone noticed what was wrong with that picture.

you missed this post:

I know it´s the image from 9-11, ´cause i was sitting that day & that time on a computer. When i read in the T.V.-scroller that the WTC was hit by a plane i searched a webcam showing the WTC. I tried almost 30 cams and every cam was full - except this one. I had to wait about 4 minutes for a refreshed version and when the funny blurry spot appeared i made a screenshot and saved it. After 2 years of casually watching the pic i recognized the clouds.

[Horatius]

;3765419']In other words, ronpaulisright has no problem with lying, only with getting caught.


Well, we knew that....

[dudalb]

I was about ready to propose we give the June Stundie to ronpaulisright by acclaimation ,except he has managed to get himself suspended.

[Elizabeth I]

I was about ready to propose we give the June Stundie to ronpaulisright by acclaimation ,except he has managed to get himself suspended.

AGAIN???

[dudalb]

AGAIN???

Yeah, on Monday.
I suspect he will not be with us much longer at the rate he is going.

[Horatius]

As a brief interlude to the the ripr drama, I present another nom:

The author’s Internet pseudonym is Reheat (email reheat@tds.net). He wishes to remain anonymous.

Enough said. Rejected.


Damn your math that can be checked by anyone who has taken high school math, we want your name!!!!

[Elizabeth I]

:bump3

...because the Stundie nominations should NEVER be off page 1!

[Travis]

As a brief interlude to the the ripr drama, I present another nom:




Damn your math that can be checked by anyone who has taken high school math, we want your name!!!!

It's amazing how Truthers commit ad-hominems while inaccurately accusing everyone else of attacking them with the same.

[Silentknight]

I nominate YabbaDabbaD00, who wrote this on the gamefaqs discussion for Metal Gear Solid 4, which is being released today. (I had an acquaintance of mine invite him to JREF, but no bites so far.)

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=926596&topic=43563162

Because it's true. Truth IS stranger than fiction. A lot of the characters are just symbology for what has been going on. Of course it's not a word for word, or event for event true, but the ideology is. The "Philosophers" were the illuminati, who have been pulling strings all over the world for centuries now. They evolved into the NWO, or the "Patriots".

The Philosophers started to usurp power from the US with the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913. We retained some of our sovereignty after that, but it was slowly taken away. Kennedy, our last REAL President(as in not a puppet) was beginning to catch on to the power behind the scenes, the Philosophers, and tried to stop them. He failed.

By the time Bush Sr. became our president, the new generation of "Philosophers", or the "Patriots"had already laid the groundwork for world domination(until now they only significantly controlled Europe, Africa, and most of the Americas). Now, they felt comfortable enough to announce it. The New World Order was here.

Since then the Patriots have been hard at work in taking control of the few remaining areas of the world where their power isn't complete. Mainly, the middle east. As is said in MGS4, "War has changed.". The Patriots have succeeded in starting a never-ending war. The War on Terror. Who is Terror? Terror is the remaining nations not under control of this NWO, and the war on terror won't end until the Patriots have secured control of the world.

How was the world drawn into this war with no clear enemy? We all know that. It happened one tragic September. These "Patriots" brought down the twin towers in a controlled demolition under the guise of a "Terrorist Attack" to rouse the American people and our friends across the world into an unending war, a well-oiled business.

Snake is merely the conduit through which this story is told. Kojima knows whats really going on in the world and hes trying to tell us. Ubisoft Montreal have also tried to warn us in Assassins Creed. Why do you think Altair is Snakes secret costume? Because they both have the same enemy. The Templars of old in AC are the "Philosophers", or Illuminati. The Modern day Templar in AC are the "Patriots", or NWO.

Hope you enjoyed.

Big ups to Hideo Kojima and the good people at Ubisoft Montreal for doing their part in exposing the Truth. Unfortunately, there isn't anything we can do about this anyway. It was fated in the Book of Revelation.

So-- yeah. If a conspiracy appeared in a video game, it must be true. I'm glad this guy has never played Deus Ex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex). :D

[l0k0]

So according to truther logic

Ubisoft and Konami could
Option A) Warn the world that 80% of the population is at risk from the NWO
but instead choose
Option B) Make videogames with secret messages to warn people discreetly. They don't want to arouse suspicion, even though nothing has happened to the makers of LC, Zeitgeist, 9/11 Mysteries, PP, or Infowars (this is because, again, the NWO doesn't want to arouse suspicion of their own doings).

Certainly this means the NWO wouldn't jeopardize themselves by putting secret codes on the dollar bill themselves would they? Oh wait....:p

Also, does this mean Kevin Barret will now be seen screaming on the sidewalk dressed as Solid Snake instead of Guy Fawkes? No one is hung for supporting the president in the MGS games so that would probably knock some points off the review score, resulting in a final score of
4/5 false flags
Truthers had no problem citing video games before.
Source (http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2006/07/challenge.html)
Maybe Judy Wood will come out claiming the Metal Gear robot was developed in the Star Wars program and could emulate the Hutchinson Effect, which shot the beam weapons which destroyed the WTC!


:dl:

[Dog Town]

One of our own.
Plum Jam:
Maybe read up some on life in general, including topics such as trust, personal integrity, avoiding lying to people etc..
From what I've seen/heard of AJ he believes what he says. Whether you agree with him or not, that does not make him a liar.
What have you seen/heard?

context-- http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=3773493#post3773493

After being asked to read up on Alex Jones!

[gumboot]

That cloudy 9/11 impact one is an absolute winner. On its own it's utterly stupid, but once you take into account the absolute mammoth mountain of evidence regarding the weather on 9/11 (such as, for example, hundreds of hours of live broadcast and non-live video footage) it's just mind boggling.

Conspiracy theorists have been watching the WTC towers collapse on video against clear blue skies for years, yet some how this genius concludes it was an overcast day? Incredible.

[Minadin]

MAN June is gong to be a good month for the truth movement!
:D

School's out for the summer.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Spooked911's Svengali of Stupid, the "Anonymous Physicist" has apparently been "out-gassing" the Kool-Aid (http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2008/06/ultimate-truths-part-vii-poisoning.html):

Finally I wish to relate some more details of my massive, mercury poisoning. I should first say that I feel a close kinship with Karen Silkwood, as my home was also broken into, and a deadly mercury compound was emplaced into all the floors and countertops. This then out-gassed, and has basically damaged my lungs, kidneys, liver, heart and other organs. Other medical sequelae are also horrendous. The foul, intel agencies also sent agents to “greet” me with four chasing vehicles, who tried to run me off the road, on the first day that I moved to a new state. There have also been assaults, as Bill Cooper also suffered. All this is for my revealing, and proving that SS agent, William Greer fired two shots, first hitting Connally, then killing President Kennedy. This is something known to many in the gov’t, and to many of the eyewitnesses-- until they were killed. But even 40 years later, the truth of the assassination of the last President, the Peace President, is not allowed or tolerated.

It was a Hair Mineral Analysis that helped save my life, after collapsing numerous times. Blood tests confirmed the massive mercury poisoning. My own body became perhaps the largest source of out-gassing mercury in the state!

[cyclonic]

Twoofers are so kewl.

Reality301
"Truthers are the coolest people you will ever meet"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8ySkHZXpl_E

[gumboot]

Spooked911's Svengali of Stupid, the "Anonymous Physicist" has apparently been "out-gassing" the Kool-Aid (http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2008/06/ultimate-truths-part-vii-poisoning.html):


My God, what sort of half-assed organisation are we running here? Has someone left Dr Evil in charge of assassinations? What ever happened to arranging a mugging gone wrong or just walking up to the mark and shooting them?

I tell ya, there was a time we could knock off a President with a shooter and a patsy. That's it. A man, a rifle, and a fall guy. Now it takes half the assassination department just to knock off one random internet guy. No wonder those blasted kids are beating us!

[l0k0]

"Rabbit63" on Digg may give RPIR a run for his money. Check out this hilariously ironic comment:
Since it is common knowledge that Wikipedia is deeply biased towards Zionism, then the very fact this information has come as far as it has on Wiki, suggests there is truth to it.

Logical eduction isn't your strong suit is it Herky?
Link (http://digg.com/world_news/Michael_Chertoff_s_NEPHEW_is_the_editor_of_Popular _Mechanics)

[jhunter1163]

:faint:That's not mercury he's out-gassing...

[Doctor Evil]

My God, what sort of half-assed organisation are we running here? Has someone left Dr Evil in charge of assassinations? What ever happened to arranging a mugging gone wrong or just walking up to the mark and shooting them?


I protest. No sharks with friggin laser beams were mentioned, now were they? :p

[1337m4n]

Russ Dalton (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3777724&postcount=49) shows us the incredibly sophisticated grammar and language skills employed by the Truth Movement when he asks me...

Does every explosion record a seismic data?

Consider the old canard that "there are no stupid questions" debunked.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Jerome Da Gnome reveals the strict evidentiary standards of Holocaust revisionism:

The Germans killed 4 million Jews, not 6 million.

...and I have provided evidence of such.

[Minadin]

Jerome Da Gnome reveals the strict evidentiary standards of Holocaust revisionism:

I wonder how many times Jerome has been show to be wrong on this very forum. The number must be approaching 7,500 or so.

[PhantomWolf]

It's not often I get to nominate an Apollo Stundie, and this one is more a movie industry one, but here we go. When is rotation not rotation? Welll according to ApolloHoax poster, Turbonium, when it's really a pan. (http://apollohoax.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=theories&action=display&thread=1999&page=11#60074)

Oh, please turbonium. For a start, Jay does indeed talk about camera rotation in the very quote you cite. Read it again, and look up the definition of "pan".

Definition of panning...

Panning
Technique for photographing a moving subject. While the shutter is open, the camera is swung following the moving subject.

http://en.mimi.hu/photography/panning.html

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8071/pan1xr3.gif

Now, point out exactly where Jay talks about camera rotation in that quote...

Yup, no obvious rotation in that picture.... :eusa_doh:

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Jerome Da Gnome reveals the strict evidentiary standards of Holocaust revisionism:

On second thought, Gnomes comment doesn't appear quite so stundielicious.

"My word is law" style arguments are annoying and often offensive coming from garden variety CTists. Applied to justifying racism and bigotry, they become infuriating.

[Redtail]

It's not often I get to nominate an Apollo Stundie, and this one is more a movie industry one, but here we go. When is rotation not rotation? Welll according to ApolloHoax poster, Turbonium, when it's really a pan. (http://apollohoax.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=theories&action=display&thread=1999&page=11#60074)



Yup, no obvious rotation in that picture.... :eusa_doh:

Wow turbs is still trying (and failing) in HB land?

[PhantomWolf]

Wow turbs is still trying (and failing) in HB land?

Yup. The thread linked to is a real dozey. It started out with him claiming that they couldn't have filmed the Earth out the window since the nose of the CSM was pointed where they were traveling too, sort of like a plane. It took a while to sort of convince him to grudgingly accept that perhaps, unlike Earth based vehicles, spaceships don't actually have to point in the direction they are traveling (this was with one person even pointing out that the Space Shuttle travels upside down and backwards.)

The guy is seriously dense about some things.

[bje]

listen bruv!! When two MASSIVE scyscapers COLLAPSE just because they were burning for not even an hour, something stinks. The conspiracy sounds so much more plausible than the "truth", and you expect me to believe that all those bodies were disintergrated BUT the passport of an alleged terrorist happens to fall from the sky????!!! http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread363386/pg1

[bje]

Go figure:

Normal guy: Just picked up a MUST-READ!!! It's called Touching History: The Untold Stories of the Drama that Unfolded in the Skies over America on 9-11. It's written by an airline pilot and you will not put it down. It will go a LONG way in disspelling a lot of the conspiracy theories.

Truther repsonse: i just googled that book. looks like some sort of entertainment medium. if its even true, why is it for sale and not on the news or something, it should be available to the public because it concerns the public. why has it been translated into some sort of drama, just so they can emotionally engage you into thinking 'they're' way? blackmail. looks like propaganda to me...http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread363386/pg1

[HeyLeroy]

Nominated section is highlighted.

This is utterly irrelevant. WTC 7 did not blow up. I already pointed this out to you once.
How do you know this when the final report hasn't been released?

'Cause, like, no one saw it collapse...

[Alareth]

Nominated section is highlighted.



'Cause, like, no one saw it collapse...

Considering that it comes from yet ANOTHER p'doh sock, I'm going to have to say I don't believe it should be eligible. The response was surely designed to sound stupid to get a rise out of people.

[Mel Odious]

It seems almost cruel to nominate SPreston at LCF ... but .. ah here we go :D

here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/308450/8/)

Our dear, sweet SPreston gets mixed up between reality and Star Trek.

"The decoy aircraft flew over the Navy Annex and north of the Citgo according to multiple eyewitnesses, and did not hit the Pentagon, and must have flown over the Pentagon or just disappeared with a cloaking device"

It's bolded and red, but does the font size meet up with SPreston's standards? Happy to take advice on this.


SPreston isn't the only nut who believes this. (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=4308)

[Mel Odious]

And while I'm at it, I'll nominate kognitive (post #5 from the page I just linked to), for this:

here is a video clip of cloaking technology in action!

http://rapidshare.com/files/121212284/invisibile_cloak.mpg

ive had this for years now.

they call it optical camouflage, not sure if this is trick photography or real though...


:biggrin:

[Cl1mh4224rd]

And while I'm at it, I'll nominate kognitive (post #5 from the page I just linked to), for this:


Argh... For as often as these idiots say "look it up on Google", why does it never occur to them try it themselves?

http://science.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm (if anyone was curious; obviously kognitive is content with his fantastic ignorance)

[Travis]

"...not sure if this is trick photography or real though..." But I'll still use it as evidence!

Your honor, I submit these fingerprints as exhibit C, I'm not sure if they are, or are not, of the accused but I'd like to use them anyways!

[Mel Odious]

"...not sure if this is trick photography or real though..." But I'll still use it as evidence!

Your honor, I submit these fingerprints as exhibit C, I'm not sure if they are, or are not, of the accused but I'd like to use them anyways!


Travis, that's exactly what I was thinking when I nominated it. And the real irony? This is from someone who says we can't trust audio or video footage from 9/11 because ...

are you ready for this ...

IT'S ALL FAKE!!!!! (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=4049)

Kognitive:

fox news claiming that 1600 hours of emergency calls were "released" (after being edited unproven but you try and get those tapes...)

fire deparment radio transmissions have been "released" and edited (this my own opinion after analyzing the audio) probaly affecting police and all emergency services.

norad tapes ( yet to be analyzed but most likely edited )

eye witness tapes and and pictures were collected by camera planet.

what is left is local radio stations and their recordings... oh but wait surrposivly the attenae on the wtc that is used for their radio stations failed on 911... so good luck finding any uncorrupted 911 footage from any commerical entity on the planet.

we have proof that wnyw fox new york has changed the video of their footage from the day.

If I recall correctly, I think there's a thread on that site where some idiot argues that even the smoke coming out of the towers is faked ...

[Travis]

Travis, that's exactly what I was thinking when I nominated it. And the real irony? This is from someone who says we can't trust audio or video footage from 9/11 because ...

are you ready for this ...

IT'S ALL FAKE!!!!! (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=4049)



If I recall correctly, I think there's a thread on that site where some idiot argues that even the smoke coming out of the towers is faked ...

Yes, I'd say that is highly ironic.

[Shrinker]

JREF Poster Galileo has proved that there were two sets of hijackers on Flight 93 - one set for the media, and another to commit the actual crime. His reasoning is pretty solid...


3) Tom Burnett said the hijackers had guns. These must have been different hijackers than the ones who had only boxcutters.


Of course it falls apart if you start to imagine crazy things such as two-handed hijackers.

[Dog Town]

From the Stundie factory called Loose Change Forum. In a thread about "chemtrails in cartoons! No, REALLY!
First up, after posting several stills of trails in toons is,
Lin Kuei who seems to be a Mod!
Now why would somebody purposefully animate those in there?
this weather manipulation thing must be pretty long-term if they are engineering tomorrow's adults to not question extremely persistent trails in the sky...

Followed by,
mid life rethinker
It could be also that to todays younger animators these trails are their norm. They don't know what it's like not to have this crap in the sky - They don't remember a true blue sky not steaked with this stuff that turns into a white sky by the end of the day.....I was doing an errand last evening at twilight and was just to so saddened by the white sky. So abnormal to me but normal to so many others.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/350097/1/#new

Yes, the marine layer I see most of May, and June is the blame of the NWO!

Lin weighs in again.
Yes that is a possibility, although we have to remember that these animated kids movies are the product of enormous corporate entities and thus powerful interests. Surely those trails would not be there if there wasn't a consensus reached, along the line, to include them.
Priceless!

[TC329]

I'm nominating this classic from Calcas (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3786052&postcount=869) who gets busted lying by saying Tom Hull is lurking around the forum calling me "nuts" and saying he would have "decked" Calcas if Calcas had brought me to Johnstown ATC to meet them.

Problem is Tom Hull is a convicted pedophile who has been in jail since January of this year and apparently Calcas is unaware of his friend being in jail for being a child molester. He's also completely oblivious to the fact that his friend lost his job immediately once it became known he was a pedophile.

Can you say busted in a lie?

I thought you could.

[Drs_Res]

I nominate Galileo.
Proof that none of the highjackers were on the planes and are now dead:

none of the 19 alleged hijackers had an open casket funeral.

[Brainache]

I'm nominating this classic from Calcas (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3786052&postcount=869) who gets busted lying by saying Tom Hull is lurking around the forum calling me "nuts" and saying he would have "decked" Calcas if Calcas had brought me to Johnstown ATC to meet them.

Problem is Tom Hull is a convicted pedophile who has been in jail since January of this year and apparently Calcas is unaware of his friend being in jail for being a child molester. He's also completely oblivious to the fact that his friend lost his job immediately once it became known he was a pedophile.

Can you say busted in a lie?

I thought you could.

Even if what you assert is true, I'm not sure it is a Stundie. I don't see any glaring misuse of logic or comical stupidity in Calcas' post.

[Disbelief]

Apparently, Galileo has made a "triumphant" return. Here is speaking of dead hijackers.

None of the hijackers received basic Constitutional protections. None were indicted by a Grand jury, none had a defense attorney, none were allowed a jury of their peers, none had a right to receive the evidence used against them at trial, and none had a right to cross-examine witnesses against them.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3785665#post3785665

[Dave Rogers]

I'm not sure whether this comment from Galileo belongs here or in General Skepticism and the Paranormal, since it would clearly require the use of a spirit medium:

Show me an example where a dead person is really dead, and is reported dead, and a reputable news outlet interviews the "dead person", who claims they aren't dead.

[Sixth Sense] I interview dead people! [/Sixth Sense]

Dave

[Arus808]

I nominate TC for posting a non-stundie in the Stundie nomination thread....

I'm nominating this classic from Calcas (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3786052&postcount=869) who gets busted lying by saying Tom Hull is lurking around the forum calling me "nuts" and saying he would have "decked" Calcas if Calcas had brought me to Johnstown ATC to meet them.

Problem is Tom Hull is a convicted pedophile who has been in jail since January of this year and apparently Calcas is unaware of his friend being in jail for being a child molester. He's also completely oblivious to the fact that his friend lost his job immediately once it became known he was a pedophile.

Can you say busted in a lie?

I thought you could.

[OldTigerCub]

Galileo explains (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3788546&postcount=33) the source of damage to WTC 7, or maybe Fiterman Hall (I think :confused: )

WTC 6 blocked most of the debris that hit WTC 7. WTC 7 was 355 feet away from WTC 1 (at the closest), while Fiterman hall waas just across the street from WTC 7.

Some large debris was sent airbourne over WTC 6 from the explosive charges in WTC 1.

[Elizabeth I]

I nominate Galileo.
Proof that none of the highjackers were on the planes and are now dead:
none of the 19 alleged hijackers had an open casket funeral.

Do Muslims actually do open-casket funerals? I thought I remembered from somewhere that they don't.

Some large debris was sent airbourne over WTC 6 from the explosive charges in WTC 1.

ROFL! They sent debris via an airfreight service?

[fullflavormenthol]

Do Muslims actually do open-casket funerals? I thought I remembered from somewhere that they don't.
You're right, they don't. There are very specific beliefs about burial and treatment of the bodies. Traditionally bodies are wrapped and placed in the ground. They don't do the whole open casket burial tradition we seem so fond of.

[steve s]

I nominate Galileo.
Proof that none of the highjackers were on the planes and are now dead:

Originally Posted by Galileo
none of the 19 alleged hijackers had an open casket funeral.


Should I start working on the Stundie of the Year plaque for this one? That's just hilarious. What does he think would be in the coffin? A little glob of charred goo?

Steve S.

[gumboot]

You're right, they don't. There are very specific beliefs about burial and treatment of the bodies. Traditionally bodies are wrapped and placed in the ground. They don't do the whole open casket burial tradition we seem so fond of.


I seriously doubt any of the passengers or crew on the four hijacked flights had an open casket funeral either...

[fullflavormenthol]

I seriously doubt any of the passengers or crew on the four hijacked flights had an open casket funeral either...
Well I was refering to Elizabeth I statement about Islamic funerals in general, not the actual hijackers in particular.

[Blender Head]

Evidence? L-L! When idiots such as yourself run out of logical arguments, they always fall back on the pathetic cry for "proof" or "evidence." It just goes to show -- once again -- that you don't know what you're talking about. Now go back to your daycare center and wipe the ****-covered ass of another 3-year-old. L-L!

Bolding mine.

Amazingly, this wasn't in reference to any conspiracy theory debates, but the death of Sam Kinison (http://youtube.com/watch?v=eI3r7FRQq0A).

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Steven Ciapanna (http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=4946&post=16024&uid=2211830485#post16024) at the facebook debunking group describes his expertise in explosive events:

Explosions are caused by BOMBS, nothing else. The explosions fire makes sound completely different than the ones bombs make. Fires in the buildings do not make explosiosns like that, sorry.


Screenshot for those w/o facebook access:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/Kilstryke/StevenCiapannaStundie.jpg

[gumboot]

Well I was refering to Elizabeth I statement about Islamic funerals in general, not the actual hijackers in particular.


Of course. I probably shouldn't have made my reply to your post - I was responding more to the idiocy of the stundie.

[fullflavormenthol]

Of course. I probably shouldn't have made my reply to your post - I was responding more to the idiocy of the stundie.
Understood. I realized that after I replied.

[Mancman]

Regarding WTC3:


Why should that building have disappeared? After all, no plane hit it. It didn't have the fireproofing from its steel beams dislodged; and, there's no significant cross over from WTC 2 to it. Afterall, the Lidar clear shows a clear drop off in debris from 25' to 0' as depicted by the way in which the red and blue areas are shown to be discreet piles. One pile for WTC 2 and one pile for WTC 3.

So, there was no kerosene, no jarring and not even an indicator, from the Lidar, that there was any impact from WTC 2 because all of WTC2's debris exhausted itself inside its own blue line area.

Needless to say, this information is considred to be consistent with destruction by a discreet attack on WTC 3.


Good god.

[16.5]

From the Stundie goldmine that is the CIT:

"Actually as you love to point out.....all of the witnesses we present believe in the impact so there is PLENTY of room for erroneous claims of an impact when discussing the implications of the north side evidence."

Words fail me.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/364837/2/

[steve s]

In the voting for the May Stundies, people were complaining that it was a slow month. Looks like June is shaping up to be winner.

Steve S

[orphia nay]

Chai (now going by the handle "Mortimer Snurd") at Freedom Crow's Nest, who seems to believe every conspiracy under the sun, and has also made up a few of her own:

"Our children are lied to in school; we are lied to on the News.

Science News is just a joke; it's all a put-on. What a hoot.

I wonder if the people (humans and others) on Mars get lied to like we get lied to."


http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71517&start=1545

I can't find where she posted pareidolic pics of Mars and said she found men in fedoras and cocker spaniels, but the whole thread is a goldfield of batcraptasticness.

[bje]

Concerning a response to a post by Pat at SLC: http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/06/for-sheila-casey.html,

on blogger Sheila Casey's claim of just "small fires" in WTC 1 and 2, and the death of victim, Edna Cintron, from jumping to escape the fires:

"The name of the woman in your post is Edna Clintron. Apparently she didn't get the memo that the fires were not that bad, she jumped to her death (along with several others)."
http://www.sheilacasey.com/2008/06/windsor-fire-in-madrid-vs-wtc-fires-on-911.html

[bonavada]

lots of ace baker lunacy HERE (http://acebaker.blogspot.com/2008/06/do-you-want-to-overthrow-united-states.html) but this passage caught my eye....

Most people support the official story of 9/11. That's a far cry from believing it. Some actually believe it, I suppose. But those people are simply stupid. For better or worse, half of all people are below average in intelligence. But none of the reasonably intelligent upper half actually believes the official story of 9/11. Not a single one. The details of the narrative range from far-fetched to physically impossible.

Relevant part bolded.
I'm taking a risk here but, as a complete dunce when it comes to stats, surely this is wrong? If not feel free to stundie me. Wouldn't about half of a representative sample be around average then a proportion below and a proportion above?

BV

[steve s]

lots of ace baker lunacy HERE (http://acebaker.blogspot.com/2008/06/do-you-want-to-overthrow-united-states.html) but this passage caught my eye....


Relevant part bolded.


BV

It's the two sentences after the bolded part that are the most Stundilicious.

But none of the reasonably intelligent upper half actually believes the official story of 9/11. Not a single one.

The troofers got only a few people to show up at their New England Troof Symposium. Showings of LC:FC get canceled due to lack of interest, and we're supposed to believe half the population supports them? I think this one just surpassed Galileo's quote to get my vote for the month.

Steve S.

[R.Mackey]

I'm taking a risk here but, as a complete dunce when it comes to stats, surely this is wrong? If not feel free to stundie me. Wouldn't about half of a representative sample be around average then a proportion below and a proportion above?
That depends on the distribution. Ace would be entirely correct if he had said "one half of the population is below median intelligence."

If intelligence is skewed towards zero, then slightly more than half would be above average intelligence, and if intelligence is skewed high, the opposite would be true. If we assume the distribution is vaguely Gaussian, which it is for certain types of measurement, then Ace's claim is precisely correct by definition.

You could also be correct if the measure of intelligence was discretized, such that the population with precisely average intelligence was nonzero. But typically one's intelligence is thought of as a continuous probability density function, for which there really is no one who is precisely average.

This does not qualify as a Stundie, but I don't believe yours does either -- it's an honest question, and these should never be penalized.

[Slayhamlet]

Concerning a response to a post by Pat at SLC: http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/06/for-sheila-casey.html,

on blogger Sheila Casey's claim of just "small fires" in WTC 1 and 2, and the death of victim, Edna Cintron, from jumping to escape the fires:

http://www.sheilacasey.com/2008/06/windsor-fire-in-madrid-vs-wtc-fires-on-911.html

I'm pretty sure DGM isn't a truther, and that he's being sardonic about Sheila's claim that the fires were small.

[DGM]

Concerning a response to a post by Pat at SLC: http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/06/for-sheila-casey.html,

on blogger Sheila Casey's claim of just "small fires" in WTC 1 and 2, and the death of victim, Edna Cintron, from jumping to escape the fires:

http://www.sheilacasey.com/2008/06/windsor-fire-in-madrid-vs-wtc-fires-on-911.html
Apparently you did not get the sarcastic tone to that post. It was made by me in response to Sheila's claims that the fires were not that bad.

[bonavada]

This does not qualify as a Stundie, but I don't believe yours does either -- it's an honest question, and these should never be penalized.

Thanks. I'm disappointed (and relieved) :-]
Anyway I think slay has it by the balls above. Ace isn't quite off the hook yet.

BV

[Slayhamlet]

Super genius Tweeter, in response to the obvious fact that the rectangular light spot appearing on the lower corner of WTC 1 in the following picture (a still from a Youtube video, what else?) is a reflection from another building:

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/8748485ab68bab8d4.jpg

Are you sure TJ?
Looks to me like the "reflection" is on the dark side of the building.
Im sure all of you can see the plane in the pentagon video too.

Sorry tj,i was laughing at enigma.
I`m watching the naudet video. Clearly not a reflection.
Unless a reflection doesnt need a light source.

That's right, reflections are only visible on reflective surfaces when there's another light source to illuminate it!

[eromitlab]

Now those cave-dwelling Ay-rabs made NORAD run drills on 9/11? (http://www.reddit.com/info/6oa9m/comments/c04fbga) Help! I'm being suffocated by troofer stupid!

Do you think arabs from a cave in Afghanistan could make norad run drills of planes crashing into the same buildings at the same time of the 911 attacks?

[bje]

Apparently you did not get the sarcastic tone to that post. It was made by me in response to Sheila's claims that the fires were not that bad.

Sorry, my fault. The layout of the comments enclosing the attribution of the writer of the previous post with the following post between two dashed lines confused me. I mistakenly attributed your comment to Sheila which, obviously, changes the entire context. Your sarcasm was right on.

Sorry, DGM.

[l0k0]

I'm speechless...

Cobain was gonna blow the lid off of the jews plan to hijack airplanes and fly them into the world trade center and the pentagon.

Link (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3795715&postcount=22)

[fullflavormenthol]

I'm speechless...

Link (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3795715&postcount=22)
He is going to win the June studie for sure. Still I think he is attempting suicide by mod.

[bonavada]

This has to be a contender.
JFK kicks aside the tumbleweed at LCF HERE (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/369985/1/#new)
He refers to a Daily Telegraph (UK) article dated 09/12/2001 about a seized Bin Laden videotape. Seems he doesn't know much about the British convention of DD/MM/YY making the date of the article 9th of December 2001.

Doh..............


The very first conspiracy theory regarding 911 which I am aware of was posted on 9/15/2001.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/216646/1/#new



ETA. Worth quoting Dom DiMaggio's reply in that thread



wow. i must have completely forgotten how quickly we found the 'confession' video......
if we had the video by the day after the attacks how in the hell could we not have known where he was. the notion we were randomly going through houses in afghanistan within such a small time frame and watching videotapes is utter nonsense. if the video is legit then then we already had an inside man and shows just another time the bush administration could have killed bin laden and passed on it. if the video isn't legit it just further evidence of fake evidence to prop up a lie.

BV

[Slayhamlet]

This has to be a contender.
JFK kicks aside the tumbleweed at LCF HERE (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/369985/1/#new)
He refers to a Daily Telegraph (UK) article dated 09/12/2001 about a seized Bin Laden videotape. Seems he doesn't know much about the British convention of DD/MM/YY making the date of the article 9th of December 2001.

Doh..............






ETA. Worth quoting Dom DiMaggio's reply in that thread





BV

Your nomination doesn't make any sense without a quotation from the part of the Daily Telegraph article "JFK" is responding to. Here it is:

Paul Wolfowitz, the US deputy defence secretary, said the tape "confirms everything we've known about him already". He added: "Maybe we'll stop hearing any more of these insane conspiracy theories that somehow the US has made this up or somebody else did it."

[Mel Odious]

I'm speechless...

Cobain was gonna blow the lid off of the jews plan to hijack airplanes and fly them into the world trade center and the pentagon.

Link (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3795715&postcount=22)

Does RPIR really believe this? :confused:

If I didn't know better, I'd guess he was intentionally trying to post the stupidest thing he could think of just to get a Stundie nomination.

Really, I'm having a hard time believing that was meant to be taken seriously.

[Brainache]

Does RPIR really believe this? :confused:

If I didn't know better, I'd guess he was intentionally trying to post the stupidest thing he could think of just to get a Stundie nomination.

Really, I'm having a hard time believing that was meant to be taken seriously.

It looks to me like RPIR is joking, but you can never be sure with these people...

[fullflavormenthol]

I nominate Niclas for being able to judge the propagandic properties of a documentary and yet fail to realize that there aren't 33 days in any month.

it´s all about advertising, it´s the banality of evil, and this is true no matter
what conspiracy version you believe.

The persons behind this attack fully understand how to create publicity.

You have to create a trademark to sell terror to the people.

" nineeleven" sounds catchy and is made to be used by politicians
and tv networks over and over again.

How about "thirtythirdofoctober" ? not as catchy ey!?

The visual impact is much more important than casualties,
people will forget about numbers but remember pictures of the planes hitting the buildings
and la grande finale, the towers collapsing.

[funk de fino]

And also, it would have been "tenthirtythree" in any case

[Newtons Bit]

Nist assumes in its 10000's pages report that if the PE/KE of the cheese block exceeds the strain energy, SE, of the nail (i.e. its capability to absorb energy from outside), the nail only absorbs the PE/KE ... forgetting that it is PE/KE of a cheese.
I would conclude that the smoking gun of 911 is actually a piece of cheese. (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3800926&postcount=47)

Yes ladies and gentlemen. NIST wrote a report on...cheese. Not on the WTC towers.

[SpitfireIX]

Yes ladies and gentlemen. NIST wrote a report on...cheese. Not on the WTC towers.


http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/170604861270a60cb3.jpg

Behold the power of cheese! :D

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Yes ladies and gentlemen. NIST wrote a report on...cheese. Not on the WTC towers.


Have Heiwa and Judy Wood met? We should hook those two up...

[Bobert]

JFK from LCF/Letsrollforums explaining what should have occured to the passnegers of flight 77 at the Pentagon:
http://letsrollforums.com/showpost.php?p=156673&postcount=87
A plane which according to the official story was traveling in excess of 500 miles an hour impacted a kevlar reinforced blast resistant wall.

What would happen to the bodies in such an event ?

The officially released pictures are of burn victims, not splatters.

Sorry for putting that bluntly.

[bje]

Sorry, not a candidate for a Stundie, but this person could be a 9/11 Truther....

"You know, maybe it's really not that bad that the Netherlands will be destroyed," Petra Faile said. "I don't like it here anymore. Take immigration, for example. They keep letting people in. And then we have to build more houses, which makes the Netherlands even heavier. The country will sink even lower, which will make the flooding worse."http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2008/06/23/Many_Dutch_prepare_for_2012_apocalypse/UPI-40461214263554/
(http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2008/06/23/Many_Dutch_prepare_for_2012_apocalypse/UPI-40461214263554/)

[Dave Rogers]

This may be ineligible because it needs so much context. Travis Bickle, on the Screw Loose Change forum, is talking about Urban Moving Systems, the company that employed the "Dancing Jews" of 9-11.

http://screwloosechange.xbehome.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2019&view=findpost&p=26002

What's so unusual about Urban Moving Systems is that they weren't actually in the business of moving furniture per se, based on the all the lawsuits against Dominic Suter. Isn't it obvious?

The lawsuits against Dominic Suter are for recompense for poor service when moving furniture. Therefore, in a classic piece of conspiracist fractured logic, the fact that they moved furniture badly proves that they didn't actually move furniture at all.

:confused:

Dave

[bonavada]

Your nomination doesn't make any sense without a quotation from the part of the Daily Telegraph article "JFK" is responding to. Here it is:

perhaps :-}

Also from the same article :-

At the request of the Bush administration, American television networks agreed in October not to air transmissions from bin Laden's al-Qa'eda terrorist network without them being edited first.

My bold there.
Of course JFK could have just read the article he linked to for a hint on the boo-boo he was making concerning the date.

BV

[bonavada]

Your nomination doesn't make any sense without a quotation from the part of the Daily Telegraph article "JFK" is responding to. Here it is:

perhaps :-}

Also from the same article :-

At the request of the Bush administration, American television networks agreed in October not to air transmissions from bin Laden's al-Qa'eda terrorist network without them being edited first.My bold there.
Of course JFK could have just read the article he linked to for a hint on the boo-boo he was making concerning the date.

BV

[DavidJames]

Heiwa, determined to claim the June award, continues to use dairy product analogies rather then, you know, genuine engineering analysis.

You cannot have a cheese and eat it at the same time.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Something about a "cart" and a "horse", I think...

How can NIST investigate "the factors leading to the initiation of the collapses" if the collapse itself is not investigated?

[8den]

Took me three minutes to find the Stundies one.

Okay this is a two worder, and like most good jokes you need the run up to the punchline.

Mahatma Coat (http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=56371825&postcount=195) over at boards.ie

A CTer discussing the collapse of WTC 7 comes out with;

And there's always the mini-nukes scenario. Thus nulifying the need for 'tonnes of explosives'.

And gets a hefty dose of sarcasm;


No please tell us how you detonate a nuclear weapon with the blast radius of one city block that doesn't create a EMP pulse, or lead to a massive dose of radiation that would still be evident at ground zero today?


And here comes our winner.


Very Carefully

See? See? All those times the Americans, the British, the French, the Russians, the Indians and Pakistan used nukes, they were like being careless, man. All that radiation and the EMP pulse are unnecessary side affects of them being sloppy.

See CND should have just used that as their slogan

"Responsible and Careful Nuclear proliferation Now!".

[Horatius]

This one sums up quite nicely a whole slew of Stundie potential noms:


Well, benburch, you win some and you lose some. You lost this one. Maybe the next time you root for the MIC you'll have better luck.


This is discussing Judy Woods et al.'s recent legal smackdown. jammonius has some theory that they actually won.

[leonAzul]

And here comes our winner.


Very Carefully


Priceless.

[TjW]

Heiwa's not giving up the June Stundie without a fight:

So it is the rubble that destroys the building? Actually no free rubble should be produced in a gravity collapse! (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3815486#post3815486)

[Dubbi]

User name: Oh Canada
User status: ``Special Agent Truther``
Forum: Canada 9/11 Truth Movement


Oh Canada on sources:

``I dont have to provide sources to you or anyone, I say what I know, through my own research, and trust me I have done my time. People can verify or un-verify what i'm saying with their own research, cause that's being a FreeThinker.``

[Travis]

User name: Oh Canada
User status: ``Special Agent Truther``
Forum: Canada 9/11 Truth Movement


Oh Canada on sources:

``I dont have to provide sources to you or anyone, I say what I know, through my own research, and trust me I have done my time. People can verify or un-verify what i'm saying with their own research, cause that's being a FreeThinker.``

Do my homework for me!

[gmanontario]

From me:

Um no. The highest resistance path would be up. Gravity determines the path of least resistance. newtons law says that an object will move according to gravity unless acted on by an outside force.
Where the hell else would a building fall?



The path of highest resistance is straight down through the vertical support columns. Deal with it.

A truther here http://alternativeempire.yuku.com/topic/3990?page=3 who is stuck in 2003 or so. I messed up the formatting :(

Anyways this guy cydoniaquest is proving to be a full blown loony-tune type who demands answers but refuses to answer question. I'm KingGeorge there and this contains borderline NSFW language (used by me of course):o
I'm going to start calling him a JAQ-off dude pretty soon.

[Minadin]

Wouldn't the path of most/highest resistance be straight up? That would require the most energy.

[Travis]

Wouldn't the path of most/highest resistance be straight up? That would require the most energy.

I'm pretty sure most Truthers learned physics through dirty limericks on bathroom walls so for them "going down" being the path of most resistance makes sense.

[Unsecured Coins]

closed!!

[Travis]

closed!!

.........ummmmm..............and?

[Unsecured Coins]

poll will be up soon.