Peter Popoff never ceases to amaze me!

[Showmeproof]

Late last night, I noticed an informercial with Peter Popoff. And guess what? He is selling something else. NO MORE "Miracle Spring Water." Instead, he is selling "the Miracle Manna Loaf."

“This Miracle Manna Loaf contains the ingredients oulined in Ezekiel 4:9. When these ingredients are combined together an amazing process takes place: a truly divine food is the result!… According to 1 Kings 19:6-8 fill a glass with water until it overflows…Just before you go to bed tonight, break off three small pieces of the Miracle Manna and eat them slowly one at a time. After you eat each piece take a sip of water from the glass and say, “In the Name of Jesus.” Take the Miracle Manna that’s left over and put it next to your bed along with the remaining cup of water. I believe God will send angels to trouble the water as you sleep”

When will this guy just give up??? I guess as long as he is making money, we will continue to see him! :::sighs::

[volatile]

How much does this stuff go for?

[Showmeproof]

How much does this stuff go for?

Not sure. I did not watch the infomercial long enough to see how much it cost.

[volatile]

Maybe you missed out on a bargain?! What price angels troubling your water, after all?

[RSLancastr]

Yeah, he has been selling it for a while now.

[tiger]

How much does this stuff go for?

It's free and it's always free, until you get the manna and the instructions talk about sending moola. I watched a video where he would say now this is free to you but it's very important to follow the instructions we give you...CAN YOU GUESS WHAT THE INSTRUCTIONS SAY, send me moola for the manna.

[Showmeproof]

Maybe you missed out on a bargain?! What price angels troubling your water, after all?


Well, no price is too small to have angels bless you, or whatever :)

[pchams]

What does it do to your fad diet...hmmm
My god, she ate so many Popoff pop-tarts she sploded!!
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[ExMinister]

So is it possible he really believes in this stuff? Or does it seem like an intentional scam?

[tiger]

So is it possible he really believes in this stuff? Or does it seem like an intentional scam?


He does believe in it while it's getting him something like millions of dollars!
He forgot that the meek shall inherit the earth and you can't get much meeker than us. Now I just have to make a point about St Peter of Popping Off he's one ugly SOB, that idiot hit every branch on the ugly tree coming down. Well somebody had to say it, I'm just glad it was me.


Oh and here is the commercial for it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4_CYVGN15E&feature=related

And here is a video link of someone going thru the instrutions!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKQTm8wfsro&feature=related

[pchams]

So is it possible he really believes in this stuff? Or does it seem like an intentional scam?

Is he ever seen amongst a group of "non-believers"?
Shurely a man so holy would share his word with the down-trodden heathens.
So many to (fleece, can't find strike-through) convert, so little time

[devnull]

why dont we all just write in for some, and then not follow the instructions?

I could do with some nice toasted manna bread and cheese.

[CFLarsen]

Yeah, he has been selling it for a while now.

In your spare time, you can do "StopPeterPopoff.com".... :)

[RSLancastr]

In your spare time, you can do "StopPeterPopoff.com".... :)Where have you been?

http://www.StopPeterPopoff.com

[Alice Shortcake]

Where have you been?

http://www.StopPeterPopoff.com

Robert, you did such a fantastic demolition job on Sylvia Browne I can't WAIT for the new Popoff site to get off the ground! After reading about his exploits in Randi's The Faith Healers I'm amazed that even the most credulous person could take this slimy con artist seriously. As for his TV ad - thank dog we don't have that sort of thing in the UK...

[CFLarsen]

Where have you been?

http://www.StopPeterPopoff.com

Damn, you're quick!! :D

(..because I can't be slow...)

[UnrepentantSinner]

“This Miracle Manna Loaf contains the ingredients oulined in Ezekiel 4:9. When these ingredients are combined together an amazing process takes place: a truly divine food is the result!…

Oh. Their. God. Google results (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ezekiel+4%3A9&btnG=Google+Search)

http://www.StopPeterPopoff.com

Awesome!

[Aitch]

Maybe you missed out on a bargain?! What price angels troubling your water, after all?

The bendroflumethiazide does that adequately enough for me, thank you. :rolleyes:

[Crundy]

The bendroflumethiazide does that adequately enough for me, thank you. :rolleyes:

I find Paracetamoxyfrusebendroneomycin does the trick for all my ailments!
http://www.union.ic.ac.uk/medic/fitness/tracks/Paracetamoxyfrusebendroneomycin.mp3

[Aitch]

I find Paracetamoxyfrusebendroneomycin does the trick for all my ailments!
http://www.union.ic.ac.uk/medic/fitness/tracks/Paracetamoxyfrusebendroneomycin.mp3

:D

But at least the stuff I'm on helps stop me getting renal colics.

[Sir Robin Goodfellow]

If someone would only expose Popoff as a fake, like, say, on a popular television program, I bet it would ruin his reputation, and he'd never be able to scam anyone ever again.

[ExMinister]

Robert, you did such a fantastic demolition job on Sylvia Browne I can't WAIT for the new Popoff site to get off the ground! After reading about his exploits in Randi's The Faith Healers I'm amazed that even the most credulous person could take this slimy con artist seriously. As for his TV ad - thank dog we don't have that sort of thing in the UK...


Thanks for mentioning The Faith Healers. I have the book but skipped around while reading it and completely missed the chapter on Popoff somehow. :o

How horrible. So, the fake products obviously have a long history. And the most damning thing is the electronic device that he wore behind his ear by which his wife would feed him information that he used to "call" people out from the audience, attributing it to the holy spirit. That's really disgusting. So a quick internet search shows that Popoff is still in business, even after he had to declare bankruptcy after James Randi's information came to light. I don't understand that at all. The information is readily available; it's even included in the first paragraph on Wikipedia. Why would ANYONE still trust him?

[Locknar]

Actually...what I find amazing is that "normally functioning" people, the same folks you see at the grocery store, when you go out to dinner, etc. actually fall for Popoff, SB, etc.

[TX50]

Ezekiel 4:12 also stipulates that it be baked using human excrement
as fuel; "...thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man"
Does Popoff follow the holy recipe exactly?

[shemp]

And with all the money he's raking in, you'd think he could afford Spell Check:

[TX50]

And with all the money he's raking in, you'd think he could afford Spell Check:

Oh, I'm sure "check" is a word he knows how to spell very well indeed. :D

[shemp]

Oh, I'm sure "check" is a word he knows how to spell very well indeed. :D

He doesn't need to know how to spell it to cash it. :D

[Psi Baba]

As for his TV ad - thank dog we don't have that sort of thing in the UK...
What about: http://www.srisathyasai.org.uk/ (btw, I do realize that you were being sarcastic)

I can't wail until Robert eventually gets around to www.StopSaiBaba.com

[Crundy]

Ezekiel 4:12 also stipulates that it be baked using human excrement
as fuel; "...thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man"
Does Popoff follow the holy recipe exactly?

Yes, but Peter 9:11 states just as clearly:
"Thou shalt take my flock of sheep, and shear them for all their wool. Should their wool become exhausted, then thou shalt bleed them of their blood at the altar"

This is the word of the lord, thanks be to god.

[Rasmus]

I like my water. Why would I want angels to come and trouble it?:duck:

Ras "I'll get my coat" mus.

[abenja1]

I don't get it. I thought Randi exposed this guy for the fraud he was. How'd he get back to where he is now?

[Ladewig]

I don't get it. I thought Randi exposed this guy for the fraud he was. How'd he get back to where he is now?

Because there is a sucker born every second.

[UnrepentantSinner]

I don't get it. I thought Randi exposed this guy for the fraud he was. How'd he get back to where he is now?

The same reason Benny Hinn and to a lesser degree Bob Tilton are still around.

(or what Ladewig said)

[Showmeproof]

I don't get it. I thought Randi exposed this guy for the fraud he was. How'd he get back to where he is now?

Bc for the most part, homo sapiens are stupid :)

[Whiplash]

"Peter Popoff never ceases to amaze me!"

He never ceases to disgust me. I can only imagine his current followers are people that just simply don't know about how he was exposed. If they really followed that, and saw how it was done and what he was doing, and still believe in him.. I just can't even begin to fathom that depth of denial.

[Showmeproof]

"Peter Popoff never ceases to amaze me!"

He never ceases to disgust me. I can only imagine his current followers are people that just simply don't know about how he was exposed. If they really followed that, and saw how it was done and what he was doing, and still believe in him.. I just can't even begin to fathom that depth of denial.

I never understood how people can still follow him after founding out he was a fake. I guess the need to believe in something is that strong!

[Corsair 115]

Because there is a sucker born every second.Hmmm, I though it used to be every minute. I guess the birth rate went up...

[Ladewig]

"Peter Popoff never ceases to amaze me!"

He never ceases to disgust me. I can only imagine his current followers are people that just simply don't know about how he was exposed. If they really followed that, and saw how it was done and what he was doing, and still believe in him.. I just can't even begin to fathom that depth of denial.

Swaggart is as popular now as he was before it was revealed that he visited hookers. Of course, unlike Popoff, his peccadillo was more sin than criminal fraud. Still, Christianity is built on the cornerstone of people who do wrong can be redeemed and then go on to perform God's work.

We have no way of knowing how many of Popoff's current followers are aware of his grossly offensive past. I suspect the number is very small but not zero. If those suspicions are true (or if I am underestimating the number), then it is merely evidence of how fascinating human behavior can be.

[FarSideOfTheMoon]

Robert, you did such a fantastic demolition job on Sylvia Browne I can't WAIT for the new Popoff site to get off the ground! After reading about his exploits in Randi's The Faith Healers I'm amazed that even the most credulous person could take this slimy con artist seriously. As for his TV ad - thank dog we don't have that sort of thing in the UK...

I might be wrong, but I thought he maybe was on one of the God channels on Sky.

[monoman]

His son, Shaun, is on youtube as VenonFanqX (http://www.youtube.com/user/VenomFanqX)

At least the description, on his videos, says he is. Not sure, but listening to his gibberish would suggest so.

Oh ... it's confusing. He has another channel called VenomFangX (http://www.youtube.com/user/VenonFangX)
which he posts to more often. As far as I can see, he doesn't admit to being Popoff's son in the description of these videos.

[Beerina]

After you eat each piece take a sip of water from the glass and say, “In the Name of Jesus.” Take the Miracle Manna that’s left over and put it next to your bed along with the remaining cup of water. I believe God will send angels to trouble the water as you sleep”

Children are dying, being choked or gutted while some rapist copulates with them, and all God can think of doing is sending some superpowered angels to harass a partially drunken glass of water?

WTF! :mad:

[ponderingturtle]

His son, Shaun, is on youtube as VenonFanqX (http://www.youtube.com/user/VenomFanqX)

At least the description, on his videos, says he is. Not sure, but listening to his gibberish would suggest so.

Oh ... it's confusing. He has another channel called VenomFangX (http://www.youtube.com/user/VenonFangX)
which he posts to more often. As far as I can see, he doesn't admit to being Popoff's son in the description of these videos.

Wait isn't VenomFangX the guy mocked in many of the Creationists say the Darndest things, videos?

Dishonnesty runs in the family then.

[Almo]

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=5206

Three stars? Granted, it's hard to come up with a mathematical way of rating stupid.

ETA: Clarification. Charities are not stupid, and it's not stupid to try to rate them on efficiency. But these ratings do not include potential stupid, which is clearly a factor in Popoff's oganization.

[monoman]

Wait isn't VenomFangX the guy mocked in many of the Creationists say the Darndest things, videos?

Dishonnesty runs in the family then.

Aye, that's the twat.

[JCL]

Ezekiel 4:12 also stipulates that it be baked using human excrement
as fuel; "...thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man"
Does Popoff follow the holy recipe exactly?

It is not as bad as it seems:

Ezekiel 4:15
Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith.

You can use cow manure instead!


Are part of the instructions to lay on your side for about 13 months? That could be the loophole for the angels not to show up.

Ezekiel 4:9
Take thou also unto thee wheat, and barley, and beans, and lentiles, and millet, and fitches, and put them in one vessel, and make thee bread thereof, according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon thy side, three hundred and ninety days shalt thou eat thereof.

[I Ratant]

I don't get it. I thought Randi exposed this guy for the fraud he was. How'd he get back to where he is now?
.
Exposed isn't the same as convicted.
And even if convicted, a few tears, and he's forgiven.
The fools that feed this guy are natural born prey, and he knows his audience.

[I Ratant]

Children are dying, being choked or gutted while some rapist copulates with them, and all God can think of doing is sending some superpowered angels to harass a partially drunken glass of water?

WTF! :mad:
.
he works in ways too mysterious for we mere humans to comprehend.

[blutoski]

New article in Nanaimo (BC) Daily News: [Senior taken in by television scam: Evangelical minister says he can cure fibromyalgia with expensive holy water (http://www.canada.com/nanaimodailynews/news/story.html?id=b3c9b2f4-3d26-481e-b4a7-cfe3eaa7fe5e)]

Excerpt:The letters are so intense, they're so demanding. And he does a lot of scare tactics with Satan


Also: [Televangelist sends a 'refund' (http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/westcoastnews/story.html?id=9c0e5079-5728-4692-9c1c-5d7565b04c4d)]

Excerpt: Televangelist Peter Popoff's ministry has reimbursed a Nanaimo woman after she went public with concerns about the fundraising techniques of the California-based church.

[rjh01]

Maybe the press are getting a bit more critical of these scams. They realize they can get a bigger audience by publicizing these things.

[steve s]

.
And even if convicted, a few tears, and he's forgiven.


I think most people simply forgot about his prior humiliation. Randi's appearance on the Tonight Show was close to 20 years ago, wasn't it?

I caught a minute of Popoff's show this morning. He's still doing the Old Person in Wheelchair Gets Up and Walks routine. Never mind that the person could walk to begin with.

Steve S.

[Whiplash]

My confusion over his ability to keep running is the way in which he was exposed. His wife reading prayer cards and speaking to through a wireless earpiece to him. He was caught red handed as a complete fraud. How could anyone have seen how that went down, and even for a second considered he may still be legit? How can anyone who really is Christian not have been offended that this man was lying and cheating so blatantly? I would think they would be outraged that someone would do that in the name of their God. I honestly don't get it.

I prefer to believe (as Steve S said), that it was just so long ago that his current flock are people who aren't aware of it. I find it virtually unfathomable that anyone could have seen the way he was exposed, what he was doing, and even give the guy the time of day again after.

[blutoski]

My confusion over his ability to keep running is the way in which he was exposed. His wife reading prayer cards and speaking to through a wireless earpiece to him. He was caught red handed as a complete fraud. How could anyone have seen how that went down, and even for a second considered he may still be legit? How can anyone who really is Christian not have been offended that this man was lying and cheating so blatantly? I would think they would be outraged that someone would do that in the name of their God. I honestly don't get it.

I prefer to believe (as Steve S said), that it was just so long ago that his current flock are people who aren't aware of it. I find it virtually unfathomable that anyone could have seen the way he was exposed, what he was doing, and even give the guy the time of day again after.

One thing I've always felt is that skeptics and skeptical organizations can serve as a repository of these scam tactics - a sort of institutional memory.

The challenge is not just to be a resource, but to pre-emptively educate so that the scammers have a smaller target population of marks. Ideally, zero.

[EarlFaulk]

Thanks for mentioning The Faith Healers. I have the book but skipped around while reading it and completely missed the chapter on Popoff somehow. :o

How horrible. So, the fake products obviously have a long history. And the most damning thing is the electronic device that he wore behind his ear by which his wife would feed him information that he used to "call" people out from the audience, attributing it to the holy spirit. That's really disgusting. So a quick internet search shows that Popoff is still in business, even after he had to declare bankruptcy after James Randi's information came to light. I don't understand that at all. The information is readily available; it's even included in the first paragraph on Wikipedia. Why would ANYONE still trust him?

Im surprised that Wikipedia article hasnt been removed for violating their Nuetral Point of View policy aka We decide what pov we want on our articles.

[EarlFaulk]

His son, Shaun, is on youtube as VenonFanqX (http://www.youtube.com/user/VenomFanqX)
VenomFangX (http://www.youtube.com/user/VenonFangX)
which he posts to more often. As far as I can see, he doesn't admit to being Popoff's son in the description of these videos.
I had to stop looking at that crap he posted about the usual creationist claims before my brain imploded.

[bokonon]

Assuming venomfanqx is a legitimate venomfangx alias (and I see no reason to assume otherwise), he seems to confirm the Peter Popoff relationship here (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6iY-J2VrEXQ), when he says "Presented by Shawn Popoff, son of Peter."
6iY-J2VrEXQ

[FarmallMTA]

Actually...what I find amazing is that "normally functioning" people, the same folks you see at the grocery store, when you go out to dinner, etc. actually fall for Popoff, SB, etc.

Isn't that just the ultimate lament? The heck of it is, very few people who get suckered into this junk are mean, nasty jerks you're secretly glad take it in the shorts. Often it's the nice, meek needy people who get suckered so badly. Lots of them are not well off, but some are. Look at the laughably ignorant crap Peter Popoff pulls off...

http://afreshfocus.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/junk-peter-popoff-sent-me-part-2/

I just don't get how people can be so gullible. Lottery tickets, horseracing, slot machines, smoking, flim-flam scams, drugs... how they get suckered in to things that are so bad for them is just an enduring mystery. :jaw-dropp

[CORed]

I'm guessing 5 easy payments of $19.99 for 16 ounces.

[Autolite]

How could anyone have seen how that went down, and even for a second considered he may still be legit? How can anyone who really is Christian not have been offended that this man was lying and cheating so blatantly? I would think they would be outraged that someone would do that in the name of their God. I honestly don't get it.


I've said it before and I'll say it again. THEISTS LACK THE ABILITY TO PROCESS, OR REFUSE TO ENGAGE IN, RATIONAL THOUGHT!!! If they were capable of rational thought, they wouldn't be theists. It irks me that I am often chastised for pointing this out yet theists continue, unabatedly, to prove this seeming assertion valid!!! :mad: