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Iamme
12th October 2003, 10:02 AM
This is really weird. I have a lot of syncronistic coincidenses that occur quite regularly. I have posted about this before.

In another forum, I made some whimsical joke reply to someone elses post about Martin Luther and his 95 thesis. I said something to the effect that a guy by the name of St. Francis beat out Guttenberg and his printing press, to the punch, and he became known as St. Francis of a theses.:D

I posted this a few days ago. Well, in our Saturday paper's religious section they have a big write up on Luther, and the movie coming out called "Luther". In the article, they go on to say this:

"When brother Johann Tetzel marketed indulgences to the poor in Luther's backyard, it inspired him (Luther) to pen his 95 theses to protest the practice. The new Guttenberg printing press reproduced his writing, and soon his critism of the church was read throughout Europe, angering the pope."

O.k., first of all we have the article about Luther. Then, about the 95 theses. And, the kicker is that they mentioned Guttenberg and his new press. When I made my whimsical joke, I just guessed that the Guttenberg press was in this approximate same era. And, I don't even know why that all came together in my head, off the cuff, to make the whimsical reply that I did. I have only read about Guttenberg back in high school over 30 years ago, and have not read or heard much of this mentioned since, that I can ever recall. It just popped into my head, out of the blue.

Could it possibly be that this information was in cyberspace, if you will, and I tapped into this? Sort of like cyberspace is where all information and knowledge lurks...and sometimes we can all tap into this, as if we are two-legged receivers?

I'm sure a lot of you have seen tv shows and/or read how scientists are mystified how the pyramids came into being, on different continents, at about the same time- period.

Or, we have heard stories of invention where supposedly two people on two seperate continents were working on the same idea, without the others knowledge. In an invention and technologies magazine I have, there is a big write up about the Wright Brothers. Various other plane pioneers were working on the same concepts in Europe at about the same time. I have heard accounts were some have said that some of these pioneers thought they were the only ones working on this. There are many such stories as this, to this day.

*I* have 'invented' some recently invented item...on more than one occation. As it turns out, that item was already invented, recently, by somebody else...and I never heard of it. And I remember telling others how odd this is, especially if you consider that the invention had the technologies available to spawn the invention decades earlier. What made the inventor AND myself conceive the same idea at near the same time, in history?

There are many of us, including on this board, who have not ruled out a 'god presense', I will call it. This 'god' could be some type of unexplained 'force' rather than this personified being that is attypical of religious dogma. This energy force MAY be something such as....an all knowledge in cyber/space for which all information and knowledge is made up of. Then, it becomes manifest somehow. Man could be a tool of this manifestation?

Pretty 'heavy' thinking and pondering is needed. To me, this ranks right up there with considerations given to the universe manifesting itself out of a pure vaxcuum.

Dancing David
12th October 2003, 10:52 AM
Hey lamme,
always wanted to say that!

My explanation is very mundane, although I do believe in the spiritual life and all that. Synchronicity is a real things and I think that it happens for a number of reason:

a. cosmic forces: the sunrise , the sun sets , we watch the same tv shows. If you sit near an intersection which is near another intersection that has an automatic stoplight, the cars travel in bunches.

b. cultural exposure and expectations: we are immersed in our culture, which causes us to repeat and experience many events the same as others in our culture

c. the structure of the brain: one of the brain's strongest tools is to sort and make associations. Our brains sort, filter and store things through this great associative network. We are hard wired to make associations.

There is a lot more than that, but there is three I can think of.

Prospero
12th October 2003, 12:37 PM
I think I like the ghost in the machine explanation, though this is a little more literal then usual. Quite obviously the sum total computing power and incalculable interconnections between all the computers on the internet has somehow created an awareness in the the vastness of the internet and it is feeding you its desires without you having any knowledge. How is it feeding you? I think Dancing David explained it nicely. So, go on doing what your artificially intelligent internet god tells you. I think it's telling me to invent a waffle iron with a built in CD player...

Dorian Gray
12th October 2003, 02:31 PM
That happens to me all the time with TV shows, although that speaks more to the predictible nature of TV shows than to my psychic or paranormal ability.

Yahweh
12th October 2003, 02:58 PM
I'm sure a lot of you have seen tv shows and/or read how scientists are mystified how the pyramids came into being, on different continents, at about the same time- period.
Its likely those people between different continents were trading between one another. Tradesmen on a boat sees and hears about pyramids on one continent, he writes about, tradesment the idea spreads at home. Voila. Pyramids on two seperate continents (this hypothesis is supported by simple associative reasoning and archeological findings).

*I* have 'invented' some recently invented item...on more than one occation. As it turns out, that item was already invented, recently, by somebody else...and I never heard of it. And I remember telling others how odd this is, especially if you consider that the invention had the technologies available to spawn the invention decades earlier. What made the inventor AND myself conceive the same idea at near the same time, in history?
Nothing remarkable. How many people are on the planet... 6 billion+. Its nothing out of the ordinary 2 people will think of the same idea. How many people do you think have sued the inventor of the "Eggwave" (its a really stupid invention that allows people to microwave eggs)? Plenty of people have a habit of making copycat products as well, I dont know how many different versions of the "Pasta Pot Pro" I've seen on TV recently.

There are many of us, including on this board, who have not ruled out a 'god presense', I will call it. This 'god' could be some type of unexplained 'force' rather than this personified being that is attypical of religious dogma. This energy force MAY be something such as....an all knowledge in cyber/space for which all information and knowledge is made up of. Then, it becomes manifest somehow. Man could be a tool of this manifestation?
Everyone has there "Wow, I'm glad misfortune played in my favor to prevent me from making a total ass out of myself" story, however I think suggesting it is a "sign of the devine" is begging the question and well into absurdity.

Pretty 'heavy' thinking and pondering is needed. To me, this ranks right up there with considerations given to the universe manifesting itself out of a pure vaxcuum.
You're in a whole 'nother world of Physics and Philosophy (Note: Physics and Philosophy are not supposed to be mixed). If it helps at all, in cosmology there are a few different types of vaccuums (the vaccuum that you will find in space right now is apparently more "stable" than a vacuum in a region of space with very high gravitation, very high temperature, etc.). (Note: I read about "types of vaccuums" a while ago, I'm not entirely sure what it is or if they are accepted in science.)

I used to make a habit (which was comparable to paranoia) with making associations with previous thoughts in my day. It was unfounded paranoia, nothing remarkable.

Like Dancing David said, humans are hardwired to make associations. Also, the environment we are raised to is pretty much the same all over, no kind of radical changes in education/ideals/philosophies/etc., its called Regional Psychology, nothing to get worked up over.