PDA

View Full Version : "4 radical Jewish websites on US terrorism blacklist"


Cleopatra
12th October 2003, 10:13 AM
Ok the only source that reports this is Middle East on-line, I couldn't find any verification from googling Media.

Maybe somebody can find something that confirms these interesting news. [I broke the links of the websites-don't click on them]


"4 radical Jewish websites on US terrorism blacklist" (http://http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=7354)

US State Department hits four radical Jewish websites run by or tied to Kach or Kahane Chai group.


WASHINGTON - The United States has for the first time extended its terrorism blacklist to the internet, designating four websites affiliated with an extremist Jewish group as terrorist organizations, State Department officials said Friday.

The move was all but unnoticed when it was put into place last week in a routine redesignation of 25 "foreign terrorist organizations" whose inclusion on the list was about to expire.

It affects websites run by or tied to the Kach or Kahane Chai group, which have been on the blacklist for years, the officials said.

"This is the first time to our knowledge that a website or any website has been designated an FTO," one official said, using the State Department's acronym for "foreign terrorist organization."

The four websites are: www.dot.newkach.dot.org, www.dot.Kahane.dot.org, www.dot.Kahane.dot.net and www.dot.Kahanetzadak.dot.com, according to a State Department notice published in the Federal Register on October 2.

With the exception of www.newkach.dot.org, which is currently being redesigned and features no content, the websites offer news, commentary and links to other sites of interest to followers of the late radical Israeli-American rabbi Meir Kahane, who advocated armed anti-Arab resistance.

Kahane's supporters, who want to see the restoration of theare accused of a number of attacks against Arabs as well as threats against Israeli officials they regard as too soft on Palestinian violence.

Baruch Goldstein, the Jewish right-winger who killed 29 Palestinians in a February 1994 shooting spree in the Tomb of the Patriarchs, was affiliated with Kach which issued statements in support of the attack, according to State Department's most recent "Patterns of Global Terrorism" report.

The website www.Khahane.dot.org presents itself as the "official Kahane wesbite" while www.kahanetzadak.dot.com declares "Kahane was right" and complains bitterly that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has not been tough enough in responding to Palestinian attacks.

Mike B.
12th October 2003, 11:24 AM
Sorry Cleo,
Can't get those links to work.

Are you sure they are correct?

Thanks.

Yahweh
12th October 2003, 11:27 AM
The links dont work, I'm skeptical of the integrity of the source, I cant find related stories on the internet, I'm afraid this could be a fabricated newsstory intended as anti-Semetic Propaganda.

ssibal
12th October 2003, 11:31 AM
Here is the story from Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=internetNews&storyID=3594588

Cleopatra
12th October 2003, 11:38 AM
Yahweh

The links do not work because I broke them. It's better to visit those sites through google. All you have to do is replace the word dot with a.. dot.

ssibal thanks.

Peach Jr.
12th October 2003, 11:42 AM
Cleopatra, thanks for the story. Ssibal, thanks for the link to Reuters.

Something struck me as a little odd. In the last paragraph of the story, they state that the US may not be able to block access to the sites for "technical reasons". Do we not have good enough hackers to do this? Or can the sites not be shut down for legal reasons, not technical ones?

If we're coming down hard on terrorism (I suppose I should have used quotation marks in there), we should be at least even-handed.

Lord Emsworth
12th October 2003, 11:57 AM
Here's a working link to the story Cleopatra linked to:

"4 radical Jewish websites on US terrorism blacklist" (http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=7354)

Yahweh
12th October 2003, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Cleopatra
Yahweh

The links do not work because I broke them. It's better to visit those sites through google. All you have to do is replace the word dot with a.. dot.
Thank you, Cleo.

Newkach.org is accessable, its currently being redesigned, it also has a disclaimer on the front page which reads:
"Just to be sure there is now misunderstandings, this site is not related to the kahane movement anymore
links for other relevant information."
I honestly dont know what "Kahane" is, but from the looks of it, it appears to be an Israeli extremist group.
(I re-read the news article, I guess I should have read more closely before I mentioned the redesigned page.)

Kahane.org is something I'm skeptical. It seems to be a little too obvious. Its either the very poorly thought out creation of an Jewish extremist group, could be the very poorly thought out creation some people posing as a Jewish extremist group in an effort to spread anti-jew sentiment (I dont know for certain, some of the front page looks a little "fishy"). I say so because I really question such an obvious domain name like "Kahane.org", the title of the front page is "The official Kahane Website", and the front page has the words "The Authentic Jewish Idea". I havent been to view too much of the site because the it crashes IE and Firebird immediately I attemped to explore further than the front page.

Kahane.net appears to be taken down and replaced with domain registrar's advertisement. Its nothing worth the time looking at.

Kahanetzadak.com doesnt look at all like a very friendly website. At the bottom of the page, there is a pair of image links which say "Take the red pill (links to smolanim.com), or take the blue pill (links to israeluniverse.com)" (also at the bottom of the front page is an advertisement for magnetic therapy products... ???). There is also a quote on the front page which reads:
"Please explain why is it illegal for a Jew in Israel to wear a t-shirt that says "Kahane was right" or to even preach about transferring Arabs back into Jordan; while Arab children can walk freely holding guns?"
There is a disclaimer on the front page which reads:
"All articles are still the intellectual property of the authors and any reproduction of them must be done with the author's written consent. KahaneTzadak is not claiming authorship over any article or section thereof."

Although I read and hear about it all the time, I honestly have no idea what it is like in the Middle East. I never know what is propaganda, which side did what, what was fabricated by one side or the other. If it helps at all, I watch a lot of Fox News (its not the most respectable news station I've ever seen).

ssibal thanks.
Seconded.

Chaos
12th October 2003, 12:37 PM
@Yahweh (and anyone else who wonders)

Re: Kahane
(this is from "Inside Terrorism" by Bruce Hoffman, re-translation from German translation)

"Kahane, who was born in New York, preached a liturgy of virulent hatred against arabs, while simultaneously praising the virtues of jewish aggressiveness and willingness to fight. Kahane was a productive author, preacher, orator, and newspaper columnist, who founded his own - now outlawed - political party/militant group "Kach" - "Anyway" - to spread his extreme, uncompromising views.
Kahanes dominating obsession was to reverse the mythical image of jews as victims.
[...]
Kahane´s recipe in the face of the grave situation of jews was very simple: He recommended militant aggression, which presented itself as only making use of the right of self-defense, which reminds of Franz Fanon´s ideas about katharsis through violence.
[...]
In 1980, he demanded that the Israeli government founded an official "jewish terrorism organisation", whose only goal should be to "kill Arabs and chase them out of Israel and the occupied territories." After that, he repeatedly demanded the forceful eviction of all Arabs from Erez Israel (the biblical Israel) or their physical destruction if they refused to leave their land."

The book says Kahanes followers commited several acts of terrorism, including a failed plot to blow up the Dome of Rock, on the Temple Mount - presumably to incite a war between Israel and the Muslim world.