It was only a matter of time before the leftists became anti-semites.

[JAR]

It was only a matter of time before the leftists became anti-semites.

As we all know, it bothers the hell out of leftists that there is an unequal distribution of wealth among people. Not only that, it also bothers the hell out of leftists that there is an unequal distribution of wealth among people of different races and ethnicities.

So from there, this makes the leftists despise people who are more well off monetarily than other people.

Incidentally, Jews are often very good at making money and due to this, they are often well-to-do in a monetary way. So it was only a matter of time before the leftists noticed this and started liking Jews less than they like people of other ethnicities just as they like white people less than they like blacks and Latinos.

There you have it folks, leftism leads to anti-semitism.

[CFLarsen]

You are so stupid that you make fungi look like Einstein.

[NoZed Avenger]

Why is it that, although I am conservative, I have far more so-called conservatives on my ignore list than "leftists"?

N/A

And it just got worse by one.

[Cleon]

The funny part is, I'm both a leftist and a jew. :D

[Lyle Beaudoin]

Love your nails. You must be a Libra.

(I fear that joke will be lost on most here.)

[Cain]

Originally posted by JAR
It was only a matter of time before the leftists became anti-semites.

As we all know, it bothers the hell out of leftists that there is an unequal distribution of wealth among people. Not only that, it also bothers the hell out of leftists that there is an unequal distribution of wealth among people of different races and ethnicities.

So from there, this makes the leftists despise people who are more well off monetarily than other people.

Incidentally, Jews are often very good at making money and due to this, they are often well-to-do in a monetary way. So it was only a matter of time before the leftists noticed this and started liking Jews less than they like people of other ethnicities just as they like white people less than they like blacks and Latinos.

There you have it folks, leftism leads to anti-semitism.

Bravo.

(You do realize that Jews are more likely to lean left than any other ethnicity (in the United States), right?)

[JAR]

Originally posted by Cain


Bravo.

(You do realize that Jews are more likely to lean left than any other ethnicity (in the United States), right?)
But I imagine that more and more Jews will become conservatives with the leftist anti-Israel thing going on.

My younger brother has a Jewish friend whose father switched from being a democrat to a republican because too many democrats were anti-Israel.

I had a friend in high school and middle school who was ultra-conservative and was Jewish.

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Cleon
The funny part is, I'm both a leftist and a jew. :D
Yeah. Joe Lieberman too, Democratic vice presidential nominee. Go figure.

Of course, everyone knows that being a conservative leads to becoming a Fundamentalist Christian, since ALL Fundies are conservative.:rolleyes:

[specious_reasons]

Originally posted by JAR
It was only a matter of time before the leftists became anti-semites.

As we all know, it bothers the hell out of leftists that there is an unequal distribution of wealth among people. Not only that, it also bothers the hell out of leftists that there is an unequal distribution of wealth among people of different races and ethnicities.

So from there, this makes the leftists despise people who are more well off monetarily than other people.

Incidentally, Jews are often very good at making money and due to this, they are often well-to-do in a monetary way. So it was only a matter of time before the leftists noticed this and started liking Jews less than they like people of other ethnicities just as they like white people less than they like blacks and Latinos.

There you have it folks, leftism leads to anti-semitism.

Wow! Proof based on stereotypes. Perfect, unassailable logic.

[Cain]

But I imagine that more and more Jews will become conservatives with the leftist anti-Israel thing going on.

My younger brother has a Jewish friend whose father switched from being a democrat to a republican because too many democrats were anti-Israel.

I had a friend in high school and middle school who was ultra-conservative and was Jewish.

Unbelievable (you having friends, that is).

Too many anti-Israel Democrats? If only it were so.

It's not as though the Christian conservatives blindly supporting Israel do so because they love Jews. They support Israel to speed up Jesus' prophesized return (whereupon all the Jews will be killed, or something).

Still, go ahead and compare the percent of the Jewish population that registers and votes Democratic versus Republican. Compare the number of elected Jewish Democrats to the number of Jewish Republicans (Specter, Bloomberg and the other guy are "liberal Republicans," in so far as the term makes any sense).

[JAR]

Originally posted by Cain


Unbelievable (you having friends, that is).

Too many anti-Israel Democrats? If only it were so.

It's not as though the Christian conservatives blindly supporting Israel do so because they love Jews. They support Israel to speed up Jesus' prophesized return (whereupon all the Jews will be killed, or something).

Still, go ahead and compare the percent of the Jewish population that registers and votes Democratic versus Republican. Compare the number of elected Jewish Democrats to the number of Jewish Republicans (Specter, Bloomberg and the other guy are "liberal Republicans," in so far as the term makes any sense).
Well, it can at least be said that the leftists outside of the U.S. in countries such as Germany and France will turn to anti-semitism.

[specious_reasons]

Originally posted by JAR

Well, it can at least be said that the leftists outside of the U.S. in countries such as Germany and France will turn to anti-semitism.

Yes, anyone can say anything. But, what have you proven?

[Dancing David]

Well JAR, glad to see you posting again!

ROTFLMAO!

Just a few points,

a. there is a very long history of conservatism and anti jewish sentiment. I suggest you look up the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and the 'Dreyfus Affairs' for starters, it is the conservatives who use the fear of the outsider (xenophobia) as a political motivator.

b. The proportion of jewish individuals who make huge sums of money is not rising, this is a cultural stereo type left over from the middle ages, please look uo 'usery laws' and you will see where the bias has it's origin.

c. Did you know that most of the cultures in the middle east are semitic? That the arabs for sure and many other groups there speak languages that are semitic, so unfortunately most of the antisemitisim in the world comes from the conservatives who want to destroy the evil islamic types.

So while you can make up whatever you want, you will find two things if you do your research:

a. most antisemitism is associated with conservative political movements

b. when liberals are painted 'anti semitic' it is because they don't goose step thier knees when the name of the state of israel is mentioned.

Your statements make about as much as me blaming your uninformed viewpoints on the california educational system. There are young people who have different views, but there is nothing to say that all young people in california are stupid, some of them are quite smart.

[PogoPedant]

*sigh* I guess I'll bite.

I'm a lefty.
I'm European.
I don't hate Jews.

There, your theorem is debunked. Don't worry, it happens to best of us as well.:rub:

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Tricky
Yeah. Joe Lieberman too, Democratic vice presidential nominee. Go figure.

Mister Insurance is a leftist? :rolleyes:

[JAR]

Originally posted by Dancing David
Well JAR, glad to see you posting again!

ROTFLMAO!
Thanks for the appreciation.

[Lord Emsworth]

Originally posted by JAR
As we all know,

This is usually all it takes to tell that the rest of what is being said is utter nonsense.

[TillEulenspiegel]

FIRST VILLAGER: We have found a witch. May we burn her?

ALL VILLAGERS: Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her!

BEDEVERE: How do you know she is a witch?

FIRST VILLAGER: She looks like one!

ALL VILLAGERS: Yeah! Yeah! Burn her! Yeah!

BEDEVERE: Bring her forward.

[They bring her forward - a beautiful YOUNG GIRL (MISS ISLINGTON) dressed up as a witch.]

WITCH: I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.

BEDEVERE: Uh, but you are dressed as one.

WITCH: They dressed me up like this.

ALL VILLAGERS: We didn't, we didn't!

WITCH: And this isn't my nose, it's a false one.

[BEDEVERE takes her nose off.]

BEDEVERE: Well?

FIRST VILLAGER: ... Well, we did do the nose.

BEDEVERE: The nose?

FIRST VILLAGER: And the hat. But she is a witch.

ALL VILLAGERS: Yeah! We burn her! Yeah! Burn her!

BEDEVERE: Did you dress her up like this?

FIRST VILLAGER: No! No! No! No! No!... Yes .. Yes ... A bit. A bit. She has got a wart!

BEDEVERE: What makes you think she is a witch?

SECOND VILLAGER: Well, she turned me into a newt!

BEDEVERE: [after a pause] A newt?

[Others stare and look at SECOND VILLAGER, who is plainly a human, not a newt.]

SECOND VILLAGER: [Notices the stares. After a pause:] I got better.

ALL VILLAGERS: Burn her anyway! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her!

BEDEVERE: Quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.

[ARTHUR and PATSY ride up at this point and watch what follows with interest]

ALL VILLAGERS: Are there? There are? What are they? Tell us! Do they hurt?

BEDEVERE: Tell me ... What do you do with witches?

ALL VILLAGERS: Burn them! Burn them! Burn them up!

BEDEVERE: And what do you burn apart from witches?

FIRST VILLAGER: More witches!

SECOND VILLAGER: Sh!

THIRD VILLAGER: Wood!

BEDEVERE: So why do witches burn?

FOURTH VILLAGER: [pianissimo] ... Because they're made of wood...?

BEDEVERE: Good.

[PEASANTS stir uneasily then come round to this conclusion.]

ALL VILLAGERS: Oh! Oh yeah!

BEDEVERE: So. How do we tell whether she is made of wood?

FIRST VILLAGER: Build a bridge out of her!

BEDEVERE: Ah ... but can you not also make bridges out of stone?

ALL VILLAGERS: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Uhh...

BEDEVERE: Uh, does wood sink in water?

ALL VILLAGERS: No! No! No! It floats! It floats! Throw her into the pond! The pond!

BEDEVERE: What also floats in water?

ALL VILLAGERS: ... Bread! ...Apples! ... Uh, very small rocks! Cider! Gra- Gravy! Cherries! Mud! Churches! Churches! Lead! Lead!

ARTHUR: A duck!

[They all turn and look at ARTHUR. BEDEVERE looks up very impressed.]

BEDEVERE: Exactly. So... logically ...

FIRST VILLAGER: [beginning to pick up the thread] If... she ... weighs.. the same.. as a duck ... she's made of wood.

BEDEVERE: And therefore?

ALL VILLAGERS: A witch! A witch! A witch!

[Mr Manifesto]

Where did you learn so much about science?

[Zep]

Go on! Finish it off! It's a very funny bit of the film...

[Cleopatra]

JAR

Leaving the skeptics that jumped on your neck aside you are totally wrong in this one.

First of all being against the policy of Israel in Middle East doesn't make you an antisemite.

For example, I am an Israeli citizen and I vote in the elections, I am totally against the policy of Sharon's government in the area.

Antisemites are those who hate the jewish people and they refuse to aknowledge the existence of antisemitism in our days.Like Cain for example, read his posts and you will understand what I mean.

Of course you might have confused the left with antisemitism because the left refuses to aknowledge that Palestinians are to blame for many things in this conflict too.

There are people in this forum who claim that they follow the conflict from a close distance and they ignore for example that Amnesty International reports violations of the human rights from the part of the Palestinian Authority.

Of course this has an explanation. To most people especially in Europe the criticism towards Israel is confused with anti-americanism that's why the majority of those who criticize Israel have a striking ignorance about the country, its History and about the real problems that it causes to the area.

So, JAR you must really disconect antisemitism from the Left.

Also, if you read a bit the History of Jewry you would discover that Jews have always been politically connected to the left.

In Greece for example the Communist party was established by a Jew ,Abraham Benaroya who was the first elected communist MP in the Greek Parliament.

[ZeeGerman]

Originally posted by JAR
It was only a matter of time before the leftists became anti-semites.

As we all know, it bothers the hell out of leftists that there is an unequal distribution of wealth among people. Not only that, it also bothers the hell out of leftists that there is an unequal distribution of wealth among people of different races and ethnicities.

So from there, this makes the leftists despise people who are more well off monetarily than other people.

Incidentally, Jews are often very good at making money and due to this, they are often well-to-do in a monetary way. So it was only a matter of time before the leftists noticed this and started liking Jews less than they like people of other ethnicities just as they like white people less than they like blacks and Latinos.

There you have it folks, leftism leads to anti-semitism.


Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler ...

Man were they leftists.

Zee

[P.S.A.]

Not to worry JAR, now we have recieved your updated "European Opinions On Jewry" talking point, I shall get my Socialist Cell to take to the streets attacking Israel in the correct terms. We've been working on some chants... could you just tell me if the conform with correctly left attitudes?

"Kill the Kibbutzim!"

"No to Internationalist Organic Farming!"

"Jews Don't Have The Protestant Work Ethic! Down With The Defilers Of White Ethnic Purity!"

So... whaddya think? Left wing enough for you?

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by ZeeGerman

Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler ...

Man were they leftists.

Zee

They were National "Socialists". For some reason this confuses some people.

Buncha Socialists. :rolleyes:

[TillEulenspiegel]

"Jews Don't Have The Protestant Work Ethic!"

HAHAHAHA man that's funny =)

[Diamond]

Blatent troll 0/10

[LW]

Originally posted by Cleon
The funny part is, I'm both a leftist and a jew. :D

You must live a hard life then, hating yourself and all that thing.

[rikzilla]

Originally posted by Lyle Beaudoin
Love your nails. You must be a Libra.

(I fear that joke will be lost on most here.)

:rolleyes:

You're right...we'll never get it!

The beat goes on 'n' I'm so wrong
The beat goes on 'n' I'm so wrong
The beat goes on 'n' I'm so wrong
I may be totally wrong, but I'm a
Dancin' fool, I'm a
Dancin' fool


-z

RIP FZ :(

[Upchurch]

Is JAR being for real?

[ZeeGerman]

Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred


They were National "Socialists". For some reason this confuses some people.

Buncha Socialists. :rolleyes:

Exactly, and their flag was also mostly red :D

Zee

[Mike B.]

I would think most could agree that this was a blatant attempt to come up with a way to troll by having an absurd blanket statement.

[Upchurch]

Be that as it may, it doesn't mean that JAR doesn't honestly believe it.

[Cleon]

Originally posted by LW


You must live a hard life then, hating yourself and all that thing.

I'm actually rather fond of myself--you can ask my ex if you don't believe me. :D

[rikzilla]

Originally posted by JAR
It was only a matter of time before the leftists became anti-semites.

As we all know, it bothers the hell out of leftists that there is an unequal distribution of wealth among people. Not only that, it also bothers the hell out of leftists that there is an unequal distribution of wealth among people of different races and ethnicities.

So from there, this makes the leftists despise people who are more well off monetarily than other people.

Incidentally, Jews are often very good at making money and due to this, they are often well-to-do in a monetary way. So it was only a matter of time before the leftists noticed this and started liking Jews less than they like people of other ethnicities just as they like white people less than they like blacks and Latinos.

There you have it folks, leftism leads to anti-semitism.

I see where your logic is going JAR, but I beg to differ.

Anti-semitism is an irrational hatred or bias. Usually it's right wing fanatics who are anti-semites....but nowadays we also see left wing fanatics doing the same.

Personally I think the political spectrum is like a loop where it's possible for there to be very little difference between a left wing nut, and a right wing nut. At the extreme fringes on both sides, these people act and talk more like each other than like the rest of us.

-z

[JAR]

I'm absolutely sure that the leftists will notice the Jew's monetary success and turn on them.

Marlon Brando complained about there being too many Jews in Hollywood and he was involved in Civil Rights Movements and some Native American Indian movement or maybe it was more than one movement. Jesse Jackson once referred to New York as "h#my town" and my older brother had a anti-semitic co-worker from Mexico at the Black Angus Restaurant he used to work at.

[Cleon]

Originally posted by JAR
I'm absolutely sure that the leftists will notice the Jew's monetary success and turn on them.

Marlon Brando complained about there being too many Jews in Hollywood and he was involved in Civil Rights Movements and some Native American Indian movement or maybe it was more than one movement. Jesse Jackson once referred to New York as "h#my town" and my older brother had a anti-semitic co-worker from Mexico at the Black Angus Restaurant he used to work at.

:dl:

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by JAR
I'm absolutely sure that the leftists will notice the Jew's monetary success and turn on them.

The only problem with this explanation is that not so prosperous Jews are targets of anti-Semitism as well.

[Upchurch]

uh-huh.

JAR, may I make a reading suggestion (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/liberalism/)?

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by JAR
I'm absolutely sure that the leftists will notice the Jew's monetary success and turn on them.

Marlon Brando complained about there being too many Jews in Hollywood and he was involved in Civil Rights Movements and some Native American Indian movement or maybe it was more than one movement. Jesse Jackson once referred to New York as "h#my town" and my older brother had a anti-semitic co-worker from Mexico at the Black Angus Restaurant he used to work at.

JAR

Don't behave like Cain, I mean like an idiot.

[ZeeGerman]

Originally posted by Cleopatra


JAR

Don't behave like Cain, I mean like an idiot.

What are his alternatives?

Zee

[Mr Manifesto]

More evidence that JAR is a complete and utter retard (as though any were needed): he forgot the ol' saw, The-Russians-hated-Jews-and-became-Communists-so-that-proves-leftists-are-anti-Semites.

Since he is a dimwit scrambling for the flimsiest evidence to support his latest post-mastabutory-ejaculation theory, the fact that he left this one out shows how ignorant of history he really is.

[a_unique_person]

He also forgot the corrollory, every day you spend reading JREF you become more leftist.

[tonygraham]

Originally posted by JAR

Well, it can at least be said that the leftists outside of the U.S. in countries such as Germany and France will turn to anti-semitism.

It can be said that everyone who lives in Lakewood, CA, USA is an absolute kn*bhead, but saying it doesn't necessarily make it true.

[Crossbow]

To: JAR

You are really stupid!

I doubt that you even realize that you in your own twisted way (which I am sure makes perfect sense to you) you are are using your own personal bias to project a bias on to others.

Wake up man, the world does not revolve around your silly preceptions.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by a_unique_person
He also forgot the corrollory, every day you spend reading JREF you become more leftist.

Heh! Not me. I get more right wing every time I read guys like you. That's American style right wing (limited government), not European style right wing (Nazis and Fascists).

The government that governs least governs best.

That's our tradition. Not that the current crop of politicians of any party follow it, but it's a good tradition.

[a_unique_person]

Abdul,

you just have to look at Rush to see where Right Wing gets you in the US.

[P.S.A.]

"The government that governs least governs best.

That's our tradition. Not that the current crop of politicians of any party follow it, but it's a good tradition."

*Aha ha ha haaaa... snuffle blort wheeze*

Ahem. Modern Governmental intereference levels are a result of macro-economic trends, not of a particular countries tradition. It's only an American tradition in so much as the worst of Americans assume a "manifest destiny" in everything America does, rather than actually getting a history book, and realising that most countries didn't even begin to evolve the 'nation-state' itself until the 1100's, and in it's modern secular form from around the 1600's (as late as the 1850's for Germany... Japan was basically a feudal society until the 1900's). Industrial Revolution, anyone? American tradition of less government indeed! "Relativism" isn't a dirty word, you know, not even with "Historical" in front of it.

The same applies for anti-semitism as well. It wasn't so long ago that world Jewry was itself supposed to be the International Left. Aha ha haaa....

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by a_unique_person
Abdul,

you just have to look at Rush to see where Right Wing gets you in the US.

So one Republican Party clown is a dope addict? What does that imply about what I said? I never had any use for the Republican Party, nor ever thought Rush was anything other than a schmuck.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by P.S.A.
Ahem. Modern Governmental intereference levels are a result of macro-economic trends, not of a particular countries tradition.

This is unquestionably true. But my point is we need to get away from that. And that really is an early American tradition. There is no political party in the USA that follows it, though the Republican Party tends to talk that way before elections, sometimes.