Vote Now! May Stundie Finals!

[Unsecured Coins]

Damn slow month for May, so here be the top 10 Stundies. Vote Wisely and responsibly.

1 - Dictator Cheney and how to become an expert in ANY field
even chemists can be "experts" in tall building collapses aslong they folow the "official theory"

2 - Redibis putting the cart before the burning horse

Do you understand the difference between smoke and flames?


3 - deep44, just because pride goeth before the fall
Smart people also know how to spell "judgment".

4 - chek. I need not say more
The fluid formed by fine solids and heated gas occurs rarely - on the surface of the Earth, only volcanoes and totally destroyed World Trade Centres are known to cause it.


5 - jimd3100 thinks this is odd...
it is suspcious that government workers would be at the pentagon

6 - Killtown Time. Plane, shovel... same thing
Through experimentation, I found out that no matter how hard or how fast I thrust my steel shovel into the soft dirt of my garden, not once was the shovel broken or disintegrated. Even when my pitcher nephew threw the shovel into the soft dirt from a raised platform at approximately 98.3 mph, the steel shovel still was never damaged.

7 - theauthor pens up a beauty

Judy Wood was never in a coma. Somebody on a another board did all manner of news searches and came up with nothing. A story like that would at least make local news. I don't beleive for a second she was in a coma. She was off on a nother CIA mission, and no i'm not joking.


8 - tthuhta on a theory to muffle the explosion sounds.
Can you wrap the explosives with mattresses to muffle the noise? I've been living near a place where rock was blown to crumbles. You clouldn't hear much anything in the air, you just felt your house shake

9 - Zaphod36 and what happened to Flight 93

Flight 93(?) probably was hit by a thermobaric weapon while airborne, low over the ground near Shanksville.


10 - Sanders points out that Floor 30 was the keystone

Seriously, how can it not be said that the 30th floor did not support the total weight of floors 31 through 110 all those years? Just as floor 29 held up the weight of floors 30 through 110, etc. etc.

[OldTigerCub]

Number 4 was tempting. I get a good chuckle everytime someone brings up "pyroclastic flow".
Then I read Killtown's "shovel test"...and have to wonder if he measured the speed of 98.3 mph with a radar gun....or a rectal thermometer....:rolleyes:
But number 7...seriously believing that Judy Wood is a CIA operative...now that's pure comedy gold! :D

Edit: Psssst! There's no linkies to the posts.....;)

[Elizabeth I]

I have to go with No. 5. The fact that the poster is suspicious of government employees being in a government building...

[Unsecured Coins]

Number 4 was tempting. I get a good chuckle everytime someone brings up "pyroclastic flow".
Then I read Killtown's "shovel test"...and have to wonder if he measured the speed of 98.3 mph with a radar gun....or a rectal thermometer....:rolleyes:
But number 7...seriously believing that Judy Wood is a CIA operative...now that's pure comedy gold! :D

Edit: Psssst! There's no linkies to the posts.....;)

then go to the nomination thread, slacker.... :D

[Brainster]

Dylan didn't make it for his "omniscient" role in Jason and Korey's new film? Pet Goat didn't make it for saying the implications of rakeonrake were obvious?

[Unsecured Coins]

Dylan didn't make it for his "omniscient" role in Jason and Korey's new film? Pet Goat didn't make it for saying the implications of rakeonrake were obvious?
Dylan says enough stupid s[chting!] to get his own Lifetime Achievement Stundie and Pet Goat almost made it.

[GlennB]

Have to go for Killtown, even over my own nomination (chek), just for the perverse pleasure of picturing him chucking shovels at the ground very hard :)

[OldTigerCub]

then go to the nomination thread, slacker.... :D

slacker? Hmmmm....I like it! :)
I might just request that as my new title...unless it's already taken...:cool:

[tsig]

I gotta go with theauthor only because killtown is capable of much much more than this.

[Bobert]

ALRIGHT!
It looks like Theauthor is going for the win!
WOO HOO!!!
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!!!!11!!!!!!

[Horatius]

I have to go with No. 5. The fact that the poster is suspicious of government employees being in a government building...



Same here. Even in a movement noted for it's paranoia about government employees, this is taking it to a whole new level.

[Blue Mountain]

Being the sort of science nerd that I am, I went for #10 (Sanders' misunderstanding of how loads are distributed on a building.) To me, this demonstrates fact that the Truth Movement is not ignorant but unwilling to learn.

I may have to eat these words if Sanders does an about-face once he's presented with some facts about engineering.

[Grizzly Bear]

6 - Killtown Time. Plane, shovel... same thing
Quote:
Through experimentation, I found out that no matter how hard or how fast I thrust my steel shovel into the soft dirt of my garden, not once was the shovel broken or disintegrated. Even when my pitcher nephew threw the shovel into the soft dirt from a raised platform at approximately 98.3 mph, the steel shovel still was never damaged.

9 - Zaphod36 and what happened to Flight 93
Quote:
Flight 93(?) probably was hit by a thermobaric weapon while airborne, low over the ground near Shanksville.



Killtown almost got my vote, but unfortunately Zaphod36 sounds like the more outrageous D:

[RKOwens4]

Actually, as far as number 3... I THINK it IS spelled "judgment". Please no one nominate me for a Stundie if I'm wrong, but I just spell-checked "judgment" and it comes up OK. "Judgement" comes up wrong.

Is that the reason this was nominated, or is there something else?

[RKOwens4]

PS, what do you mean this was a slow month? These are hilarious!

[theauthor]

Woohoo im in the lead. And even more so now that ive voted for myself:D

[1337m4n]

10th place: Zaphod36

9th place: deep44

8th place: Dictator Cheney

7th place: theauthor

6th place: Sanders

5th place: tthuhta

4th place: chek

Bronze Medal: RedIbis. To think that a huge mass of smoke can come from anything but a huge mass of fire takes a special kind of stupid.

Silver Medal: KillClown. I wonder how he was able to measure that his nephew threw the shovel at precisely 98.3 mph, or, for that matter, how his nephew was even able to throw a shovel that hard.

Gold Medal: jimd3100. Just...I'm speechless. There are no words. Just wow.

[Brainache]

Actually, as far as number 3... I THINK it IS spelled "judgment". Please no one nominate me for a Stundie if I'm wrong, but I just spell-checked "judgment" and it comes up OK. "Judgement" comes up wrong.

Is that the reason this was nominated, or is there something else?

I initially nominated it because I was unaware of the US spelling. It was subsequently decided that since the rest of the english speaking world spell it "judgement" that Deep44 was effectively saying that anyone not from the US is stupid.

I'm surprised it made the finals, but I voted for it anyway.

[Bobert]

Woohoo im in the lead. And even more so now that ive voted for myself:D

The voting will be sprayed with chemtrails so that you do not win!

[theauthor]

Jimd3100 sounds like it has been quoted out of context.

I would like to see the rest of that sentence.

[Elizabeth I]

Jimd3100 sounds like it has been quoted out of context.

I would like to see the rest of that sentence.

All you have to do is follow the link in the "May Stundies" thread.

[Gaspode]

Slow month indeed. Or just another sign that the movement is dying?

I voted for Killtown. That's a classic Stundie.

[OldTigerCub]

PS, what do you mean this was a slow month? These are hilarious!

Good point! While the nominations may be lacking in quantity, there certainly has been no lack of "quality foolishness". Twoof continues to corner the market when it comes to stupid!:p

[Horatius]

Jimd3100 sounds like it has been quoted out of context.

I would like to see the rest of that sentence.


Typical twoofer research methods: Ask a question, put no effort into finding answer.

Originally nominated here:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3706996#post3706996



Full post, title and all:

you have to admit

it is suspcious that government workers would be at the pentagon
This one is undercover as a civilian..sneaky aren't they?
http://www.dailymotion.com/Ashoka_lc/Pentagon/video/x1ihc1_pentagon-eyewitness-isabel-james_news



Care to re-asses your opinion?

[Mel Odious]

I had to go with tthuhta's "IHD" (Improvised Hush-a-boom Device) hypothesis.

But hey, I'm weird.

[Dog Town]

It has to be KKK Clown! Shovel...LOL!1110000eleven!!!!!
Plus D'oh P, voted for himself, and is a moron...etc!

[Hokulele]

4 or 5? 4 or 5? 4 or 5?

*Tosses coin*

5.

[The Silver Shadow]

Killtown FTW!

[tsig]

Are you reading all of theauthor's comment? It's original.

[Evilgiraffe]

Definitely Killtown. Just so much wrongness neatly bundled into one paragraph.

[deep]

I initially nominated it because I was unaware of the US spelling. It was subsequently decided that since the rest of the english speaking world spell it "judgement" that Deep44 was effectively saying that anyone not from the US is stupid.

I'm surprised it made the finals, but I voted for it anyway.


The person I was replying to is from the US -- the word was clearly misspelled.

Plus, if you spell "judgment" as "judgement" (and claim that you're justified in doing so), then you should also be using the non-US spelling for other words, such as: colour, flavour, honour, defence, offence, organise, realise, likeable, liveable, sizeable, (...).

Unless some other non-US spellings are being used consistently, judgment does not have an extra 'e'. Those who are justified in spelling it with an extra 'e' are not "stupid" - my point was, if you're going to tell everyone how smart people are supposed to conduct themselves, make sure you run the message through a spell-checker before you click 'submit'.

[gumboot]

It had to be killtown... every step of his experiment is absurd beyond belief. It's not just comparing a steel shovel with an aluminium airliner, not just comparing thrusting an object into the ground compared with an airliner slamming into the ground under power, indeed not even his retelling of his profoundly gifted pitcher nephew and their speed radar is the ultimate, for me the real selling point is in the opening sentence:

"no matter how hard or how fast"

As if he had exhausted the variables possible in his experiment when in truth he had not even delved remotely close to reality.

[Dr Adequate]

The person I was replying to is from the US -- the word was clearly misspelled. Unless, of course, you believe those unpatriotic shills Merriam and Webster (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/judgement), who are clearly the Benedict Arnold of orthography.

My point was, if you're going to tell everyone how smart people are supposed to conduct themselves, make sure you run the message through a spell-checker before you click 'submit'. ... or consult a dictionary of American English, that would help.

Another way to avoid the appearance of boneheaded stupidity involves not being a Truther.

[Wildy]

Actually, as far as number 3... I THINK it IS spelled "judgment". Please no one nominate me for a Stundie if I'm wrong, but I just spell-checked "judgment" and it comes up OK. "Judgement" comes up wrong.

Is that the reason this was nominated, or is there something else?

Well he did look like an idiot when he said it, especially IIRC, that the poster he was calling an 'idiot' was not an American.

I would have voted for deep44, but instead voted for jimd3100, that one made me laugh.

[Wildy]

The person I was replying to is from the US -- the word was clearly misspelled.

Plus, if you spell "judgment" as "judgement" (and claim that you're justified in doing so), then you should also be using the non-US spelling for other words, such as: colour, flavour, honour, defence, offence, organise, realise, likeable, liveable, sizeable, (...).

Unless some other non-US spellings are being used consistently, judgment does not have an extra 'e'. Those who are justified in spelling it with an extra 'e' are not "stupid" - my point was, if you're going to tell everyone how smart people are supposed to conduct themselves, make sure you run the message through a spell-checker before you click 'submit'.

So you only accept posts written in American English? Gee, I'd hate to see your reaction if someone was to tell you about a theatre in the centre of a city made of aluminium with a colourful cafe with a sizeable and well-organised menu and likeable staff.

Then again in Australian the words "practice" and "practise" have different meanings, and the sentence "Labor is the party for labourers" is correct.

[theauthor]

I still think the one about ogvernment workers at the pentagon is not right. Even the most stupid person (ie a debunker) would not say that. He must mean something else.

I deserve this one definitely. Killtown is always good stundie value but he deserves credit for at least performing his shovel experiment.

[deep]

... or consult a dictionary of American English, that would help.


Are you telling me that they misspelled "Judgment" in "Terminator 2: Judgment Day"? Sorry, but no.

This is a stupid argument, because if the roles were reversed and I was the one that spelled it wrong, you would be arguing the exact opposite.

[Horatius]

Care to re-asses your opinion?

I still think the one about ogvernment workers at the pentagon is not right. Even the most stupid person (ie a debunker) would not say that. He must mean something else.




Didn't think so. Expected that, really.


Just more typical twoofer research: Ask question, make no effort to find an answer, reject obvious answer when presented because it conflicts with precious, precious beliefs.

[mrbaracuda]

I voted for shovels!

[deep]

So you only accept posts written in American English? Gee, I'd hate to see your reaction if someone was to tell you about a theatre in the centre of a city made of aluminium with a colourful cafe with a sizeable and well-organised menu and likeable staff.

Then again in Australian the words "practice" and "practise" have different meanings, and the sentence "Labor is the party for labourers" is correct.


Welcome to my ignore list - I would suggest that you add me to yours. In fact, I ask that all of you please add me to your ignore list if you have no interest in actually reading my messages.

I'm sick of repeating myself over and over again because very few of you are willing to spend the 8 seconds it takes to read beyond the first few words of any given message.

I really wish I was capable of stooping down to your level and doing the exact same thing in my responses to you, but I just can't bring myself to do it.

[CptColumbo]

Are you telling me that they misspelled "Judgment" in "Terminator 2: Judgment Day"? Sorry, but no.

This is a stupid argument, because if the roles were reversed and I was the one that spelled it wrong, you would be arguing the exact opposite.So you hold James Cameron as the absolute authority on how to spell words above Merriam-Webster?

Of course, he is "the King of the World!"

[deep]

Well he did look like an idiot when he said it, especially IIRC, that the poster he was calling an 'idiot' was not an American.


FOR THE SECOND TIME, THE PERSON I WAS REPLYING TO WAS AN AMERICAN -- FROM CHICAGO.
HOPE THIS IS ENOUGH TO CATCH YOUR ATTENTION.

[deep]

So you hold James Cameron as the absolute authority on how to spell words above Merriam-Webster?

Of course, he is "the King of the World!"


Noah Webster was the one who decreed the first E superfluous.

Argument over, you lose.

[CptColumbo]

Noah Webster was the one who decreed the first E superfluous.

Argument over, you lose.Yet Merriam-Webster still lists "judgement" as an alternate spelling.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Judgement

My American Heritage Dictionary: Second College Edition also lists it as an alternate spelling.

[tsig]

Could you both take it outside?

[Wildy]

FOR THE SECOND TIME, THE PERSON I WAS REPLYING TO WAS AN AMERICAN -- FROM CHICAGO.
HOPE THIS IS ENOUGH TO CATCH YOUR ATTENTION.


I thought I was on your ignore list?

[X]

I still think the one about government workers at the pentagon is not right. Even the most stupid person (ie a debunker) would not say that. He must mean something else.

I deserve this one definitely. Killtown is always good stundie value but he deserves credit for at least performing his shovel experiment.



link directly to post (http://911blogger.com/node/15601#comment-186720)


You can protest all you want TheAuthor.
The individual did say, and mean, that.
Additionally, the insult was uncalled for.

[munki?]

Silver Medal: KillClown. I wonder how he was able to measure that his nephew threw the shovel at precisely 98.3 mph, or, for that matter, how his nephew was even able to throw a shovel that hard.




That is precisely why my vote had to go with KT.

[CptColumbo]

If he/she had written about being surprised there were so many civilian government workers there may be a point to protesting, but if they are forgetting that members of the Military are government employees it's stundie worthy.

[theauthor]

;3759470']link directly to post (http://911blogger.com/node/15601#comment-186720)


You can protest all you want TheAuthor.
The individual did say, and mean, that.
Additionally, the insult was uncalled for.


What insult? If I want to say debunkers are stupid i can. its a group not an individual.

[X]

Whatever. I merely pointed out it was uncalled for, and a blatant attempt to get a rise out of people. Since I seem to be feeding into your need for attention, I'm going to drop that issue.

What about the rest of my post?
Do you wish to re-assess your position on the matter, in light of the evidence?

[Drudgewire]

double post

[Drudgewire]

Hmmm, going with number four in the ninja edit. :o

[theauthor]

;3759661']Whatever. I merely pointed out it was uncalled for, and a blatant attempt to get a rise out of people. Since I seem to be feeding into your need for attention, I'm going to drop that issue.

What about the rest of my post?
Do you wish to re-assess your position on the matter, in light of the evidence?


Truthers are called stupid here everyday. Is that a blatant attempt to get a rise out of truthers? Biased much?

[Dr Adequate]

Are you telling me that they misspelled "Judgment" in "Terminator 2: Judgment Day"? No, I am not. You can sort of tell that I'm not telling you that by the way that I said nothing of the kind. Or rather, you would be able to tell if you had normal mental function.

This is a stupid argument, because if the roles were reversed and I was the one that spelled it wrong, you would be arguing the exact opposite. One of the problems with this fantasy is that if the roles were reversed, then you would not have spelt it wrong.

[Dr Adequate]

Truthers are called stupid here everyday. Is that a blatant attempt to get a rise out of truthers? An attempt to get a rise out of Truthers? What would be the point? It would be like spitting in the Atlantic.

No, it's 'cos Truthers are stupid. I mean, have you read this thread?

[Dave Rogers]

I still think the one about ogvernment workers at the pentagon is not right. Even the most stupid person (ie a debunker) would not say that. He must mean something else.

And there, ladies and gentlemen, you have the intellectual honesty of the truth movement summed up. Even when a fact is completely obvious and incontravertible, if it doesn't agree with your preconceived opinions it must be false. It's only the need for context that prevents this from being a Stundie in its own right.

Dave

[Hokulele]

And there, ladies and gentlemen, you have the intellectual honesty of the truth movement summed up. Even when a fact is completely obvious and incontravertible, if it doesn't agree with your preconceived opinions it must be false. It's only the need for context that prevents this from being a Stundie in its own right.

Dave


Nah, I already nominated it for a Stundie. It can stand on its own.

[MarkCorrigan]

Killtown. To throw ANYTHING that fast is impressive. A shovel? I don't think so.

[Cobalt]

Killtown. To throw ANYTHING that fast is impressive. A shovel? I don't think so.

If he was taking a shovel to 98, I'd imagine college and pro baseball scouts alike would be watching this guy mighty intently.

[defaultdotxbe]

If he was taking a shovel to 98, I'd imagine college and pro baseball scouts alike would be watching this guy mighty intently.
98.3 was probably the fastest his nephew has ever thrown a baseball, so killtown decided to use that figure while assuming he can throw a shevel at the same speed he throws a baseball

it really goes to show how a seemingly simple equivocation fallacy can lead to grossly skewed results

[jaydeehess]

I have to go with No. 5. The fact that the poster is suspicious of government employees being in a government building...

While many of the others are so very very good it is just not possible to ignore the fact that No.5 sums up the severly warped reality in which the TM members often operate with.

I note he similarity between finding it suspicious that gov't workers would be in a gov't building and the redIbis quote in my sig where he found it preposterous that NIST would say that removing insulation from steel would accellerate the rise in steel in a fire.

Both are the 'shake-your-head-did-he-just-say-what-I-think-he-did' moments we have all come to enjoy.

Besides, Killtown is just so last year.:D

[jaydeehess]

Killtown. To throw ANYTHING that fast is impressive. A shovel? I don't think so.

I just dug a hole in the dirt this weekend and bent my shovel. It hit a rock so i stood on the shovel and jumped hoping to force the shovel around the rock.
Rock 1 - Shovel 0

[X]

My post:

;3759661']Whatever. I merely pointed out it was uncalled for, and a blatant attempt to get a rise out of people. Since I seem to be feeding into your need for attention, I'm going to drop that issue.

What about the rest of my post?
Do you wish to re-assess your position on the matter, in light of the evidence?


Your reply:

Truthers are called stupid here everyday. Is that a blatant attempt to get a rise out of truthers? Biased much?



Do you wish to re-assess your position on the matter, in light of the evidence?

[nicepants]

Boo...I was hoping that the "fires cannot weaken structural steel!" claim would make it. Even funnier was the claim that I was arguing semantics when I showed why the position was ridiculous.

[jaydeehess]

OK, perhaps Killtown has missed the obvious way to test out the 98.3mph impact to a steel shovel. Take one pick up truck, put Kt in the back of it with a steel shovel. Have his nephew drive and take the truck up to speed (on this point I would reccommend going to 100 mph just to round things up a bit) Now Kt releases the shovel tossing it perpendicular to the direction of travel of the truck, far enough to have it land in a feild. The added perpendicular velocity would not amount to much in comparison to the velocity in the direction of the truck's travel. Now go back and check on the condition of the shovel. My bet, its bent, the handle maybe snapped. Now consider that the kinetic energy of that shovel would be 1/16th of the same shovel travelling at 400 mph.

But then Kt has never been good at physics or math.

[jaydeehess]

;3765377']
Do you wish to re-assess your position on the matter, in light of the evidence?

Apparently he'd rather argue the strawman and ignore his mistake.

[fezzic]

I thought about government workers at the Pentagon but being charitable figure that government workers /= military personnel and civilian workers, security, etc.

Throwing a shovel into dirt... uh, yeah, that is a really reasonable approximation of (I presume) an aircraft smacking the ground at 400-500 mph. Ok.

sigh

[jaydeehess]

I thought about government workers at the Pentagon but being charitable figure that government workers /= military personnel and civilian workers, security, etc.

Throwing a shovel into dirt... uh, yeah, that is a really reasonable approximation of (I presume) an aircraft smacking the ground at 400-500 mph. Ok.

sigh


well you see, Kt and, apparently, his nephew are intelectually challenged. A shovel has a handle and is used as a hand tool so the only way to accellerate it to speed is to use one's hands. It never crossed their minds to use an automobile to take the shovel up to speed.
That in itself speaks volumes to Kt's ability to reason.

[Gaspode]

Jimd3100 sounds like it has been quoted out of context.

I would like to see the rest of that sentence.


I'm inclined to agree. I also can't help feeling that the comment by jimd3100 was taken out of context.

He/she was responding to the comment (http://911blogger.com/node/15601#comment-186714) just before which refers to people working for the government - but in the sense that they're government agents who were paid to give false eyewitness testimony.

So when jimd3100 said "government workers" he/she was also refering to the same governments agents, not the ordinary people who worked at the Pentagon.

It's still a stupid thing to say but I'm not sure it's Stundie worthy.

[Elizabeth I]

All this is just irrelevant chatter. The important thing is that jmd's post must win. Not only is it Stundie-worthy in its own right, it also spawned a new Stundie nomination.

[Blender Head]

Voted for JMD because it's hilarious.

Also, nice to see another thread where a point flew right over theauthor's head.

[Horatius]

I'm inclined to agree. I also can't help feeling that the comment by jimd3100 was taken out of context.

He/she was responding to the comment (http://911blogger.com/node/15601#comment-186714) just before which refers to people working for the government - but in the sense that they're government agents who were paid to give false eyewitness testimony.




I'm not sure how you get "government agents" out of the previous post:



But Jon, Griffin is explaining that there were no real eyewitnesses -- they all either worked for the government or saw something very different from a Boeing -- and that none of the DNA evidence can be linked back to the scene and the victims.

Interesting how all the government workers on patriotsquestion911 are never questioned, but because the government workers who saw AA77 aren't reporting what the no-Boeing theorists want they now "don't count."



I think you're reading more into this than what was said. There is no suggestion that they are "Agents". It seems to me that he's just assuming that anyone who works for the government is automatically untrustworthy. Still evidence of their fundamental paranoia, and thus Stundieworthy.





Ah, I feel like it's the good old days with Billy Rea again!*


;)






*Not that I'm saying you're like Billy. It's just been a while since I've debated a Stundie nom!

[Gaspode]

I think you're reading more into this than what was said. There is no suggestion that they are "Agents". It seems to me that he's just assuming that anyone who works for the government is automatically untrustworthy. Still evidence of their fundamental paranoia, and thus Stundieworthy.


I don't get government agents but I can see how someone with a bad case of CT on the brain might read it as such. Saying 'government workers at the pentagon' is like saying 'shop workers at a shop' or 'bank workers at a bank'. It seems too stupid - unless it's just a lack of reading comprehension. Both of which truthers are well known for, but not really Stundie material.


Ah, I feel like it's the good old days with Billy Rea again!*


;)






*Not that I'm saying you're like Billy. It's just been a while since I've debated a Stundie nom!:D
I remember William. Always seemed to be whinging about something.

[gumboot]

Throwing a shovel into dirt... uh, yeah, that is a really reasonable approximation of (I presume) an aircraft smacking the ground at 400-500 mph. Ok.


The best part is that the main body of his experiment was not to throw a shovel into dirt, but to simply thrust it into the dirt. The whole throwing thing was simply meant as a "deal sealer" piece of excessive experimentation that grossly exceeded the parameters of the real world situation and proved, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that an airliner crashing into the ground at 500 MPH will be totally unharmed.

[Horatius]

I don't get government agents but I can see how someone with a bad case of CT on the brain might read it as such. Saying 'government workers at the pentagon' is like saying 'shop workers at a shop' or 'bank workers at a bank'. It seems too stupid - unless it's just a lack of reading comprehension. Both of which truthers are well known for, but not really Stundie material.




So your whole argument boils down to, "this is too stupid, even for a twoofer"*? Good luck with that!

;)





*Isn't the "I can't believe he said something that stupid" reaction the whle point of teh Stundies?**





**And why is it, the only time I don't mis-type "the" as "teh" is when I mean to?!?

[jimd3100]

Uh...gee, what an honor. Do I get a trophy or something? If so, I'm not sure it would be fair to accept your award, since you are not bright enough to give a closer look at what I was talking about.

I believe this was back when CIT was on Air America discussing their retarded Flyover BS. The comment about government workers being at the pentagon is sarcasm. I wasn't posting it for the sherlocks in here. I posted it on 9/11 blogger where it would be known it was sarcasm since I had already banned CIT from the forum I moderate on.

In summation.....I was making fun of the preposterous claims that the many witnesses who saw what happened at the pentagon(a big plane flew into it)were actually Gov agents. They were not, and non gov witnesses also saw what happened.

If you saw the actual quote you'd see I linked to a video of a civilian who also watched the plane fly into the pentagon, and I was saying how sneaky they were, to pose as civilians...again sarcasm,... because I was posting on another forum where they knew where I stood on the issue.

However--I will be looking forward to my award, and will use it as proof of your horrible research abilities.

Get your facts straight.

[theauthor]

Uh...gee, what an honor. Do I get a trophy or something? If so, I'm not sure it would be fair to accept your award, since you are not bright enough to give a closer look at what I was talking about.

I believe this was back when CIT was on Air America discussing their retarded Flyover BS. The comment about government workers being at the pentagon is sarcasm. I wasn't posting it for the sherlocks in here. I posted it on 9/11 blogger where it would be known it was sarcasm since I had already banned CIT from the forum I moderate on.

In summation.....I was making fun of the preposterous claims that the many witnesses who saw what happened at the pentagon(a big plane flew into it)were actually Gov agents. They were not, and non gov witnesses also saw what happened.

If you saw the actual quote you'd see I linked to a video of a civilian who also watched the plane fly into the pentagon, and I was saying how sneaky they were, to pose as civilians...again sarcasm,... because I was posting on another forum where they knew where I stood on the issue.

However--I will be looking forward to my award, and will use it as proof of your horrible research abilities.

Get your facts straight.

Welcome to the forum. As you can see I have been trying to argue in this thread that you couldnt possibly have meant that.

Don't worry about all the resident idiots here. They are just obsessed with truthers.

[Horatius]

Uh...gee, what an honor. Do I get a trophy or something? If so, I'm not sure it would be fair to accept your award, since you are not bright enough to give a closer look at what I was talking about.

I believe this was back when CIT was on Air America discussing their retarded Flyover BS. The comment about government workers being at the pentagon is sarcasm. I wasn't posting it for the sherlocks in here. I posted it on 9/11 blogger where it would be known it was sarcasm since I had already banned CIT from the forum I moderate on.

In summation.....I was making fun of the preposterous claims that the many witnesses who saw what happened at the pentagon(a big plane flew into it)were actually Gov agents. They were not, and non gov witnesses also saw what happened.

If you saw the actual quote you'd see I linked to a video of a civilian who also watched the plane fly into the pentagon, and I was saying how sneaky they were, to pose as civilians...again sarcasm,... because I was posting on another forum where they knew where I stood on the issue.

However--I will be looking forward to my award, and will use it as proof of your horrible research abilities.

Get your facts straight.



Well, you haven't won yet.


As for "horrible research skills", perhaps you should take a moment to read the entire thread, where you'll see someone who did link to the original post.

As for it being sarcasm, well, it's been noted before that some twoofer beliefs are indistinguishable from parody. Perhaps this should make people think twice about what they believe.

[Horatius]

Welcome to the forum. As you can see I have been trying to argue in this thread that you couldnt possibly have meant that.

Don't worry about all the resident idiots here. They are just obsessed with truthers.



Well, now, let's be honest. You started out claiming we had misrepresented his post:


Jimd3100 sounds like it has been quoted out of context.

I would like to see the rest of that sentence.


It was only after your, what was that term, oh yeah, "horrible research skills" (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3758394#post3758394) were demonstrated that you decided he couldn't have been stupid enough to actually mean it*. And even then, you were mostly using it as a cheap attempt (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3759189#post3759189) at another dig at the people here. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3759603#post3759603) So don't go acting like you're better than us here.





*And I'll point out, we only have his word that he isn't that stupid. Really, why should we trust him?

[theauthor]

Well, now, let's be honest. You started out claiming we had misrepresented his post:





It was only after your, what was that term, oh yeah, "horrible research skills" (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3758394#post3758394) were demonstrated that you decided he couldn't have been stupid enough to actually mean it*. And even then, you were mostly using it as a cheap attempt (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3759189#post3759189) at another dig at the people here. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3759603#post3759603) So don't go acting like you're better than us here.





*And I'll point out, we only have his word that he isn't that stupid. Really, why should we trust him?


You got it wrong. own up to it for once.

[jimd3100]

Well, you haven't won yet.

As for it being sarcasm, well, it's been noted before that some twoofer beliefs are indistinguishable from parody. Perhaps this should make people think twice about what they believe.

Actually this should make people think twice about the BS you push. You also posted that why believe me....maybe I really am dumb enough to think gov workers at the pentagon are odd....LOL....and here I am..I just hardly cant wait now...about to get an award that was earned due to my beliefs at the pentagon....when as I said before 5 minutes of research would make it clear that I believe a plane flew into it, and the witnesses who were there told us what happened.

Pretty stupid

[nicepants]

I wanted to make sure this was brought to everyone's attention. The quote regarding the shovel was not made by Killtown, but by SPreston at LCF in a post responding to one made by Killtown.

Link to original post (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=72782&t=278097)

The post even includes photos of an undamaged shovel.....hotlinked from a site that sells shovels.

(Just want to make sure credit is given where it is due :))

[chillzero]

jimd3100 (welcome) , theauthor,
This thread does not exist for bickering over the stundies. Remember the Membership Agreement calls for civility, and posting on topic. Any further such posts will be removed to Abandon All Hope.

[theauthor]

Wow, what a farce. killtown didnt even say that and jmd isnt a pentagon no planer and didnt mean that.

[JamesB]

Uh...gee, what an honor. Do I get a trophy or something? If so, I'm not sure it would be fair to accept your award, since you are not bright enough to give a closer look at what I was talking about.

I believe this was back when CIT was on Air America discussing their retarded Flyover BS. The comment about government workers being at the pentagon is sarcasm. I wasn't posting it for the sherlocks in here. I posted it on 9/11 blogger where it would be known it was sarcasm since I had already banned CIT from the forum I moderate on.

In summation.....I was making fun of the preposterous claims that the many witnesses who saw what happened at the pentagon(a big plane flew into it)were actually Gov agents. They were not, and non gov witnesses also saw what happened.

If you saw the actual quote you'd see I linked to a video of a civilian who also watched the plane fly into the pentagon, and I was saying how sneaky they were, to pose as civilians...again sarcasm,... because I was posting on another forum where they knew where I stood on the issue.

However--I will be looking forward to my award, and will use it as proof of your horrible research abilities.

Get your facts straight.

Well as the person who originally posted that, you have my apologies. But I do have to add, that I have researched the truthers as much as anyone else on the planet (a dubious honor I admit) and even I cannot tell your parody apart from your fact. I have had to virtually give up trying to parody you guys on the blog, because it is far to confusing to the readers. That is what happens when you take positions which are completely disconnected from reality.

[jimd3100]

Well as the person who originally posted that, you have my apologies. ........<edit>..... That is what happens when you take positions which are completely disconnected from reality.

Apology accepted. And I will admit crazy things are said in the name of "911 truth". Which I myself even make light of.

Some things on "your side" are pretty stupid too. Like this award that I can't wait to receive, which now destroys the merrits behind it.

Now you all can carry on with more "sane" issues, like "we are attacked because we are so free", and other things more connected to "reality".

[jimd3100]

Welcome to the forum. As you can see I have been trying to argue in this thread that you couldnt possibly have meant that


I don't hang out here, but just happened to stop in to see this thread, and yes, you were exactly right. And I am not, and never have been a "pentagon no planer".

[Dog Town]

So can we end this and give it to it's rightful owner? KKK Clown! Winnaaah...

[JamesB]

Apology accepted. And I will admit crazy things are said in the name of "911 truth". Which I myself even make light of.

Some things on "your side" are pretty stupid too. Like this award that I can't wait to receive, which now destroys the merrits behind it.

Now you all can carry on with more "sane" issues, like "we are attacked because we are so free", and other things more connected to "reality".

I am not sure how you can compare ignoring hundreds of witnesses, dozens of dead victims, not to mention a missing plane, with not being able to detect sarcasm in an internet post.

If you believe that AA77 hit the Pentagon, then that puts you at odds with most of the people that your movement holds up as "experts" and indicates that their research is shoddy and logic is non-existent on an issue which is in reality pretty clear cut. Doesn't this raise some red flags for you?

[defaultdotxbe]

Wow, what a farce. killtown didnt even say that and jmd isnt a pentagon no planer and didnt mean that.
its just as dumb if he isnt a no planer

and if thats not what he meant he should have said what he meant instead of what he said

mean what you say and say what you mean, didnt your dad ever tell you that?

[Gazpacho]

7 - theauthor pens up a beauty
Gee whiz, and you folks almost talked me into putting him on ignore.

[1337m4n]

RECOUNT!
RECOUNT!
RECOUNT!

Two reasons:

1) jimd3100 has been disqualified.

2) Killtown is actually SPreston.

We'll have to start the elections all over again.

Additionally, punishments shall be leveled upon the person who nominated jimd3100. 35% pay cut and 20% rations reduction for one week.

In the future, people, please get this junk together while its still in the Nominations phase!

[Unsecured Coins]

In light of these recent developments, as Exahlted High Priest, there will be a recount of the Stundies with one entry removed and one entry edited.

This recount shall take place when I am done being lazy. Probably tomorrow. I don't know.

[JamesB]

RECOUNT!
RECOUNT!
RECOUNT!

Two reasons:

1) jimd3100 has been disqualified.

2) Killtown is actually SPreston.

We'll have to start the elections all over again.

Additionally, punishments shall be leveled upon the person who nominated jimd3100. 35% pay cut and 20% rations reduction for one week.

In the future, people, please get this junk together while its still in the Nominations phase!


Hey! It is not my fault these people are beyond parody! The quote was funny.