Help me determine the authenticity of this "whistleblower"...

[1337m4n]

Somebody had posted this in a Facebook group. The link is a transcript of an e-mail exchange that allegedly occurred between an ex-CIA agent and an unknown purpose.

If it's genuine, it is very real evidence of a potential 9/11 "inside job", in the form of a credible whistelblower admitting to the whole thing. However, it doesn't appear very genuine at first glance. It reads more like a Hollywood movie script than anything else, with our ex-CIA whistleblower using such cliche Hollywood-isms as "no more contacts for 24 hours" and "someone just walked in and he's staring me down, gotta go for now".

I can't find this document anywhere else but at this link:

http://209.85.215.104/search?q=cache:ytA9_lc8TdgJ:forums.ogn.com.au/attachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D39348%26d%3D121099 4176+%22Georgia+Jacqueline+Barrett&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

That link is actually a Google cache; the actual document is a .doc file that can be downloaded here: http://forums.ogn.com.au/attachment.php?attachmentid=39348&d=1210994176

Following the "URL trail" brings me to a lone thread on a tiny Australian video gamer's forum: http://forums.ogn.com.au/showthread.php?t=54722&highlight=cia

That thread, plus the one Facebook thread where it got copy-pasted onto, is the only place on the entire Internet where this alleged conversation is posted, which is what makes me so suspicious about its authenticity: if it were genuine, I'd expect it to be plastered all over the Internet.

Anyway, I need everybody to read it, and tell me what the next step is as for as determining whether it's "for real". Because if it is (which I highly doubt), we've got some serious business on our hands (i.e. the possibility that the Truthers are right!)

[fullflavormenthol]

I smell a John Tutor type hoax. Nothing here seems the slightest bit provacative, and I am familiar with all of this from conspiracy type websites. I know that he seems to link Eric Rudolph to the government, which seems strange; more so that he doesn't seperate him from the Oklahoma city bombing, almost like he thinks Rudolph did it.

A lot of reference to Tesla, which isn't unusual for the conspiracy types. A lot of ambigious claims. Micro-nukes and such. I will leave this to better people to look into, but my gut feeling is that it is the troof movements version of a Tutor.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

9/11 was a complicated operation. Pentagon, I believe, was hit by an old fighter jet remotely flown and painted to look like a commercial flight. The Pentagon is SURROUNDED by HUNDREDS of auto-launch defensive missiles. Someone had to manually switch off the 'incoming friend or foe' ('IFF') system, or the craft would have needed a 'friendly' radio signal transmitter to prevent being blown to pieces LONG before reaching the building. 'IFF' transmitters are NEVER, EVER installed on civilian aircraft.

*AHEM*

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/Kilstryke/PantagonReaganAirport.jpg

If anyone falls for this guys line of bull____, they are going to severely test my opposition to forcible sterilization.

[GreNME]

That link reminds me of a site I read where some mall security guard was trying to come across like his line of work is comparable to fictional stories like those in the TV show '24', describing ridiculous incidents involving weapons that security guards wouldn't even be allowed to carry, supposedly engaged in urban warfare with gangbangers, fighting off terrorists, and saving the life of a relative of the local mayor-- all in complete secrecy from the public, no less.

This doesn't have even the tiniest aspect to give me an impression that it's genuine. The account gives confusing details and then backpedals when asked about them, both claiming to be just a member of the operation(s) and simultaneously having overview information of the whole shebang. There's little to no consistency. That's not a judgment on the authenticity of the claims themselves, but of the reliability of the person describing the claims.

Also, the safe houses and networks of intrigue, among other things, sound an awful lot like a pumped-up version of the television show Burn Notice (http://www.usanetwork.com/series/burnnotice/) than it does anything believable.

[Redtail]

Ok...

We have a CIA agent who is to much of a coward to speak out against the government but was fine with dealing with South American drug cartels.

'incoming friend or foe' ('IFF') system,

IIRC IFF is Identification, friend or foe.

Some debris was simultaneously dropped from high altitudes by military aircraft.

One has to wonder if the used bombing sights or "smart debris"Some info I'm trying to send you is being totally blocked. I'm upsetting someone. Whatever you want to know, ask now, as I am becoming frightened by the thought of being killed or 'disappeared' by the U.S. Government. This communication is DANGEROUS for me, PLEASE spread the info you have received as quickly as possible.

Yet continues talking, I stopped counting at 8 paragraphs.

.(nothing furthur at this time)

He adds this after going on about Wer Bell's drunken bragging about killing Kennedy. (stupid NWO and their loose lipped minions that they won't kill for some reason...)

He claims his cousins body was placed on view at a funeral home in an advanced state of decomp which would be a MAJOR no-no.

Later in the "this is what I found out" section the base where this "CIA agent" was supposedly trained that the gubbment took great pains to conceal and will make your life hell if you drive by it too slow or try to take pictures (If they let you live!!!111!!) has write ups in the local paper...

That's just what i caught at first glance and I gotta call bull poop.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

He also gets IFF wrong. It's "identification, friend or foe", not "incoming friend or foe".

"Incoming friend or foe!"
"Well, which one is it?!"
"Incoming!"

[Edit: Argh. RedTail beat me...]

Some info I'm trying to send you is being totally blocked. I'm upsetting someone. Whatever you want to know, ask now, as I am becoming frightened by the thought of being killed or 'disappeared' by the U.S. Government. This communication is DANGEROUS for me, PLEASE spread the info you have received as quickly as possible.

Yet continues talking, I stopped counting at 8 paragraphs.


This part puzzles me. It's something I've seen more than once, with different conspiracies. I mean... why wait for people to ask? Why not just tell while you know you still can? Waiting for people to ask questions just gives the evil NWO that much more time to stop you before revealing really damaging information.

This alone sets off multiple red flags that scream "HOAX".

[eromitlab]

One thing stuck out on the post at OGN, besides all the "one world government" tripe... why would we go to war with Kazakhstan? What, are we Uzbekistan's puppet now? Is it revenge for Borat's great success?

Also... if we're going to have a one world government, why is the Bush family supposedly bothering with a compound in Paraguay, and why is Halliburton supposedly headquartering in Dubai? Why go thousands of miles off when Dubai, Mumbai, Paraguay and Kootenay are all controlled by the same evil overlords?

Not that I'm any sort of expert, but I'm throwing the brown flag on this one.

[ref]

What a fake story that was.

ETA: Some quoted hints that this is a total fraud:

"Towers were demolished with thermite and micro nuclear devices. 7 was thermite/conventional." So we have 3 different methods in use. 1 is apparently not enough.

"Flight 93 landed, it was loaded with government agents-where it landed." Back to LC2 theories.

"One of Warren Buffet's repainted 'Net Jets' flew very low at, or very near, supersonic speed over the 'crash site' to simulate a commercial airliner... snip...Shockwave at the low altitude caused damage to homes (broken glass, etc.). Most 'debris' was planted well before 9/11 and explosives were detonated to damage nearby homes and simulate the sound of a plane crashing. Some debris was simultaneously dropped from high altitudes by military aircraft." Okay then.. this is worse than LC2 already.

"93 landed somewhere in Ohio and was hidden for a time in a NASA hangar." Here we go again, LC2.

"Pentagon, I believe, was hit by an old fighter jet." And nobody noticed it was a fighter jet.

"The Pentagon is SURROUNDED by HUNDREDS of auto-launch defensive missiles. Someone had to manually switch off the 'incoming friend or foe' ('IFF') system, or the craft would have needed a 'friendly' radio signal transmitter to prevent being blown to pieces LONG before reaching the building. 'IFF' transmitters are NEVER, EVER installed on civilian aircraft." Total BS, as previous posters have pointed out.

"'Family mourning' ?? Governments have ways of creating what SEEM to be 'families'...snip...One of the first things government intelligence agents learn is 'method acting'. Top secret paid acts such as 'mourning', can carry on publicly and very convincingly for decades." This is plain nasty.

"Hundreds of cameras surround the building (Pentagon) from every angle" Really?

[1337m4n]

My, this one didn't last very long.

Good show everyone.


why would we go to war with Kazakhstan?

Kazakhstan is greatest country in world! US and A warlord Premier Bush is threatened by gloriousness of Kazakhstan!

[fullflavormenthol]

My, this one didn't last very long.

Good show everyone.




Kazakhstan is greatest country in world! US and A warlord Premier Bush is threatened by gloriousness of Kazakhstan!
Well they do have superior potassium from what I have heard.

[jberryhill]

Well they do have superior potassium from what I have heard.

Yes. Every other country has inferior potassium.

[eromitlab]

Does Kazakhstan no longer support us in our war of terror?

[deep]

Regardless of what it says, it's worthless. Without a real person stepping forward, someone whose identity can be confirmed, there's no point in even reading what they have to say.

Without an identity, or any link to the material world, it's just too easy for someone with a little time & creativity to forge something like that.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Regardless of what it says, it's worthless. Without a real person stepping forward, someone whose identity can be confirmed, there's no point in even reading what they have to say.

Without an identity, or any link to the material world, it's just too easy for someone with a little time & creativity to forge something like that.


No, I don't think that's it... No one knew Deep Throat's identity, but he helped take down an administration. How? The information he provided was verifiable and correct.

[CptColumbo]

Regardless of what it says, it's worthless. Without a real person stepping forward, someone whose identity can be confirmed, there's no point in even reading what they have to say.

Without an identity, or any link to the material world, it's just too easy for someone with a little time & creativity to forge something like that.For once I agree with you.

Anyone who has flown into DCA can see that the person is uninformed about the Pentagon and it's surrounding area.

[CptColumbo]

The only thing keeping a story like this from being true is that the author's identity is unverifiable? No, I don't think that's it...I think he/she was writing that aside from the content, without an identity it is worthless.

That's how I read it.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

I think he/she was writing that aside from the content, without an identity it is worthless.

That's how I read it.


I've edited my post, but he's putting the need for an identifiable author before the need to determine the accuracy of the information provided. If we don't know exactly who wrote it, then it's worthless, if only because of that fact.

With something like this, it's easy enough to determine whether or not the information itself is worthless, without waiting around for the author to identify themselves before moving on to that step.

[CptColumbo]

No, I don't think that's it... No one knew Deep Throat's identity, but he helped take down an administration. How? The information he provided was verifiable and correct.Woodward and Bernstein knew his identity.

I've edited my post, but he's putting the need for an identifiable author before the need to determine the accuracy of the information provided. If we don't know exactly who wrote it, then it's worthless, if only because of that fact.

With something like this, it's easy enough to determine whether or not the information itself is worthless, without waiting around for the author to identify themselves before moving on to that step.I think the credentials of the author are important. Especially when the information is proprietary, and hard to confirm (unlike this case when the information is obviously flawed) and to determine if one should even waste their time looking into it.

Exchange had been authored by Donald Rumsfeld it might be worth looking into. It might prove 9/11 was an inside job or that he was very misinformed about the defences around the Pentagon. Either way it's quite a story.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Woodward and Bernstein knew his identity.


Whoops, true. Wow. :o

I think the credentials of the author are important. Especially when the information is proprietary, and hard to confirm (unlike this case when the information is obviously flawed) and to determine if one should even waste their time looking into it.


True enough. Maybe I'm being too literal, but deep44 said, "Without a real person stepping forward, someone whose identity can be confirmed, there's no point in even reading what they have to say." I think that's wrong. Like you said, if it's proprietary information, then yeah, knowing and verifying the author's credentials is needed, but... you still need to read what they've said in order to determine that.

[Max Photon]

1337m4n, with respect to your OP:

the tone does not ring true.

Max