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8th June 2008, 12:38 PM
NOTE: This list below just represents my initial thoughts as I watched these videos that ronpaulisright challenged me to watch. Mainly to prove that I spent hours sitting through it, and to provide a summary for people so they know it is the same crap always thrown around here. I tried point by point at first, but eventually it became just too damn weird for me.
It isn't really educational, just meant to point out with this butt-load of crazy really is. The best way I can describe it is putting every conspiracy together and then blaming it all on the Jews at the end. That is this movie. Enjoy.
Part 1.
Right off the bat this thing starts with the presumption that all things on 9-11 were fake. The description of the events as like an action packed Hollywood movie is the first problem, personally it goes to show that the creators are more absorbed by the images of Hollywood than they would like to believe.
The fact that cameras are everywhere on that day is a manifestation of the fact that technology is everywhere in our society. Any big event in the 21st century will be “filmed” from multiple angles, yet this video makes it seem strange. As if the President isn’t followed by media coverage at all times.
Then…I am not joking here…It ties the LotR film, The Two Towers, into the conspiracy. They also called it a Harvey Weinstein production, which is just foreshadowing of the videos anti-Semitism; because most people identify films by director…Peter Jackson. Again they use this as a way to tie into their insane notion that the entire thing is a made up event. Using snide commentary about the lack of director credits for 9-11.
02:23, put option nonsense. They also use the film maker terminology in here to present, without evidence, that a fortune was made off 9-11. It ignores of course that many put options are the result of projection that a stock would fall, and not “inside information”. Projecting that airline profits and thus stock would fall in September is not “spooky” it is merely projecting that less travel takes place after the busy summer travel season. But they use this to tie into a “military industrial complex” conspiracy.
03:50, Constant use of movie terms. Repeating it over and over to convince the viewer that “something” is up.
04:00, False Dichotomy “Conspiracy Theory Test” the simple fact that they can attempt to phrase any series of complex occurrences into such a question should be a clue to be suspicious.
05:09, statement without fact. It isn’t provable that there was concrete prior knowledge of anything. Again different departments had pieces of the puzzle, and this was why we developed a department of Homeland Security.
06:46, Airport security wasn’t at it finest prior to 9-11 and the video presents the idea of the 19 hijackers as some grand feat which it wasn’t given the security measures at the time.
07:52, 15 minutes to scramble nonsense again. The videos producers are very ignorant of how the military normally operates.
07:54, the POTUS remaining in the school was actually safer than leaving. It was already a secured location, and no one knew to what extreme the attack was taken place. It was better to have him remain than to remove him into an unsafe environment.
08:07, snuff porn for troofers. They do enjoy people leaping to their deaths because they are panicked and burning alive and suffocating.
09:58: presents the Pentagon crash with the normal troofer logic that has been argued here before.
10:09, Top Gun sequence. You should never use scenes from a better movie in your trash documentary. Notice the TBS Superstation watermark. Probably from their taped copy, which might explain where their view of the military comes from.
10:27, 8 miles away based upon looking at a road map length. Meaning that 8 miles by road, not literally 8 miles from the sight. History Channel actually dealt with this.
10:37, more evil media nonsense. They forget to mention that the media also portrayed a message telling people that Islam was not at fault, only bad people using Islam.
PART 2
00:37, because they weren’t citizens. Many foreign people I know make it a point to carry their passport. It is standard in practically every country, since the visa for being there is supposed to be kept in a passport. READ THE INSIDE OF YOUR PASSPORTS. Even countries that don’t require visas of Americans and other foreign citizens still require to passport to be kept on hand.
01:02, wow a case of lost luggage? Never…
01:32, people give away religious texts. People conveniently leave Bibles to be “found”, and I have known Muslims to leave English transliterations around. Remember transliterations of the Qur’an are not considered the true Qur’an by Muslims. Only in Arabic is the Qur’an true. For example I have one Qur’an, but 2 transliterations.
03:05, wow you mean he would blame Jews? Surprising. Still that doesn’t account for when he does claim responsibility.
04:11, okay the claim of an Osama mask is just stupid. Just stupid. If you believe a video is fake than it is provable, but yet troofers can’t prove that claim.
04:43, and many people believe Elvis is still alive. Belief doesn’t constitute fact.
Up till 05:32, more snuff porn for the troofers. War is awful, death is bad. That doesn’t mean 9-11 was an inside job.
05:55, this has been debunked. These are cases of people with the same names, or misidentifications.
06:12, FBI will only investigate identity theft involving American citizens or occurring in the United States.
06:23, because it is very likely that by taking on the identity of an Israeli they would be found out. The best they could do is impersonate an Israeli Arab, in which case the implication wouldn’t be on Judaism.
10:22, please establish who these top demolition experts are.
10:42, just wrong. There are no videos showing explosions at the base of the towers. Even the video itself can’t show these explosions.
PART 3
00:22, more of the whole explosions on the buildings, eye witness testimony stuff. See the rest of the forum for this.
00:48, Jet fuel melting steel straw man.
01:32, both towers were hit differently than each other. See the rest of the Forum for this information.
01:36, now on to building 7, making a specific point to link it to Silverstein.
01:43, never been hit…by a plane…not never been hit by the collapsing buildings.
02:02, specific reference to a “Jewish businessman”. You can tell were the video is heading.
03:00, more explosives in the building without detection nonsense. See forum.
04:47, big payouts…yeah. See forum.
05:37, flash over a monopoly game with World Bank and Rothchild. Propaganda.
06:01, statements of proof of a bank connection to 9-11 without evidence.
09:32, again with the movie analogy. Brain washing is a great description of this video.
09:51, now the video attempts to connect everything to a secret Skull and Bones conspiracy.
PART 4
00:47, misappropriation of the term Zionism. Judaism teaches that the Jews are the chosen people, but anti-Semites twist this idea into an accusation of extremism.
03:01, for some reason they show a clip from Glory, which is offensive to see a great film dragged into this mess.
03:22, the video then moves on to claim that all the major wars in human history are a big conspiracy.
03:47, compares Vatican City to Washington D.C. even though Vatican City is its own nation. But now we move to a Catholic Conspiracy. Great, right here I begin to believe that White Supremacists put this video together.
05:21, oh noes! Religious symbols of the crucifixion at the Vatican!?!?! There it is, proof
of an inside job.
06:05, and now scenes from South Park. For over three damn minutes.
09:40, the video claims the Pope is the richest man on Earth, despite not actually owning any of the wealth of the Vatican. Then the video presents the Vatican as evil, and hoarding the worlds wealth.
PART 5
Now the video connects the crusades to the conspiracy.
00:37, the Freemasons are, according to the video, the Crusaders. Knights Templar.
00:47, the inquisition, lets begin! The Inquisition, look out sin! We’re on a mission, to convert the Jews! Basically connecting this to the 9-11 attacks?
00:55, falsely exaggerates the number of people killed in the Inquisition to millions. Burning times reference. Gives me the impression that most of this is coming from someone’s shallow research.
01:55, the video then goes into a combination of Hitler/Vatican history, and Priest sex scandal. As if they are related to each other.
02:59, now the video presents the city of London as the wealthiest city state on Earth. Forgetting the Vatican all together, and never calling it back after its one night stand.
04:01, now if you thought the LotR reference was out of place….well Rothchild is presented above the ring of power. So Rothchild is lord Sauron? Well movie all you need to do is get a few troofers to throw his ring into the fires of Mount Doom.
04:16, but you only mentioned four ruling families. What about the other nine movie?
04:13, now the movie presents British ownership of land in former British colonies as something to be surprised about.
04:55, according to the video the District of Columbia was created in 1982. Never existed before then I suppose.
05:57, so appearantly the three stars on the flag of Washington D.C. symbolize the city states of the Vatican, London and itself. Of course it is actually based off the coat of arms of George Washington’s family crest, but the movie producer couldn’t do the 10 minutes of research it took me to find that.
06:20, we are apparently still a British colony. King James will be coming to your house soon, because King James said so. According to movie we never actually won the war of independence.
07:33, Do you remember learning the 13th amendment abolished slavery? Well apparently it doesn’t. At least according to this movie. It secretly gives the King of England rule over the United States.
07:50, ignores the fact that United States officials were already forbidden from holding or being granted titles of nobility by Article 1, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution.
08:33, and now we move to Aaron Russo territory. The video goes into the Rothchilds and the Federal Reserve and how we are all slaves.
08:37, video states the private Federal Reserve line, ignoring the Public-Private design of the Federal Reserve.
09:28, then the video presents that the President is elected by the Federal Reserve. Going into the Skull and Bones CT.
10:05, It seems the United States is a corporation. Don’t prove it, but they say it is so.
10:40, the video presents the existence of stone obelisks in Washington D.C., Vatican City, and London as proof of a conspiracy.
PART 6
00:20, The Washington Monument is proof of some Freemason Conspiracy. According to the movie.
02:09, the phrase Amen, according to the video, is really a prayer to every Egyptian god.
02:20, Oh no. Test’ amen ent is used to show the worship of Amun. I am trapped in Zeitgeist again!
02:41, Again the video continues down this path; but like Zeitgeist no one ever thought to look at a non-English bible.
04:19, the movie falsely identifies the Palestinians as the sole descendents of the Canaanites, ignoring modern research.
06:16, now showing Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yeah that always helps when watching a bad movie, show scenes from a good one. Sad to say, but raiders would be more educational than this.
06:53, earliest remains of human life on Earth are implied as being in Egypt by the movie. Right now my brain has sort of stopped working. I fear I may enter troofer brain fog.
07:33, scenes from the Ten Commandments. Oh Charlton Heston, if you were still alive you could save me from the brain hurtng.
08:13, at this point I am officially watching Zeitgeist again. The Jews are really Egyptians…according to the movie.
09:10, at this point the movie is just pushing me. I swear, this is a personal affront trying to force me to destroy my computer. The movie completely ignores Mesopotamian history in its telling of Hebrew history.
10:01, anyone circumcised? Well you are officially owned by the Hebrews.
PART 7
01:01, Mormon Joseph Smith’s Egyptologists believed that Amenhotept was Abraham, and so it is naturally true…according to the movie.
01:50, Another scene from Raiders, only this time to claim that Abraham’s remains are in the Ark of the Covenant. Forget that Ten Commandments stuff, besides I firmly believe the mental patient responsible is just making this **** up as they go along at this point. Given the sound of their recording equipment irritating me. I mean they obviously edited this, couldn’t they at least spring for a microphone not from the $20 section of Wal-Mart?
03:41, Okay uses the fact that the Hebrews, according to the Bible, carried the Ark into battle as proof it couldn’t contain the commandments. Because it would violate the commandments. I don’t know anymore?
04:11, the movie now claims all the evidence shows that Abraham is Amenhotep, but never provides this evidence.
07:17, okay. So apparently the steps leading to the Royal throne in England are a representation of the step pyramid in Egypt.
PART 8
Biblical history isn’t my thing, at least at the moment, and so I won’t make it a point to comment; unless something is really wrong.
07:30, okay. I’ll some it up. A lot of attempts to claim that Egyptian and Hebrew history represent the same people and same things. More of the Hebrews are Egyptians. What makes it funny is the use of clips from LotR to symbolize Solomon.
08:24, fantastical religious writings may not be true? Wow, that is amazing.
10:14, so apparently we are still ruled by the Egyptians?
10:49, video of Vikings…I guess they are Egyptian too.
PART 9
01:32, the Queen of England is an Egyptian queen……….okay…….
02:01, claims that the twelve stones on the crown represent the twelve tribes of Israel.
02:31, the Union Jack represents the twelve tribes of Israel. Why, because you could pronounce it like Jack-ub, which of course is proof.
Okay, just a whole hell of a lot of crap about connecting the British Royal family to Egyptians. I don’t even have to work with this. It is crazy pure and simple.
09:03, oh hell…now it is back to ancient Israel. Can’t this movie stick with a chronology?
10:38, once again I am sucked into Zeitgeist.
PART 10
It is better to just call this part Zeitgeist Part 1 and leave it at that until it changes.
02:09, okay…here is a fun claim. Jesus was the son of Cleopatra and Julius Caesar. I can’t make this crap up.
03:03, and now we return to Zeitgeist part 1 already in progress.
04:29, now we are told that Jesus went to India to learn Buddhism. Oh man…
06:53, So the claim is made that Jesus was a Buddhist.
08:22, of course the brothers of Jesus are the children of Marc Anthony…oh
09:22, it takes a special movie to make me long for the logic of Zeitgeist.
10:27, well I wrote too soon. Some nice Zeitgeistian logic here. Jesus became Jesus Christ because it had the same initials as Julius Caesar. Someone never learned the fact that different languages lack the same alphabet. Or that Christ was a title, and not actually his last name.
10:43, So the movie has gone to the insane. Jesus planned on taking over the Roman Empire by making a new religion and there by creating the Holy Roman Empire. Not making this up…the documentary actually states this.
PART 11
00:50, the movie jumps off the deep end to a place without regard to any fact whatsoever.
00:59, The movie asks the question as to what Jesus did from 8 to 30. Valid point, but of course being a troofer question it is meant to imply that the other b.s. is true.
01:16, now the legend that Jesus went to England. This movie just can’t decide what the hell sort of history it wants to believe.
03:53, the movie makes the claim that the Zealots became the Zionists of today. A dubious claim that has actually been discussed here before.
05:11, the Jesus survival stuff. We are now moving into the Di Vinci Code stuff here.
05:47, oh…no…the crucifixion was an inside job. Meant to fool the Romans.
08:07, okay so the movie is now saying that the Statue of Liberty is a symbol of Mary Magdalene.
09:41, So the Statue of Liberty is pregnant, which proves that Dan Brown is right and Mary had children.
PART 12
01:00, Restates its claim that all the Jesus cast were in fact children of Cleopatra and assorted Jewish/Egyptian/Roman royalty.
02:11, oh no…the same stock footage. The movie is now just repeating.
03:04, no movie I take it back. Please don’t claim that the Vikings are Jewish. No the movie literally claims that the Vikings are the remains of the Israeli tribes dispersed from Palestine. From the movie…Vikings. VI means six in Roman numbers, and so you end up with 6 Kings, meaning the tribes forced out of Israel. Kill me please!
05:59, why didn’t you kill me? The movie is now playing “The Power” by Snap with images of the Queen splashed across the screen.
06:37, Queen Elizabeth is the most powerful person on Earth, it seems that in the time it took to make this documentary the power and wealth of the Pope was usurped by the Queen. God knows it feels like it has been that long.
07:29, the movie continues the claim, outside of reality, that the President of the United States is merely a servant of the Queen; somehow because we refuse to bestow titles of nobility on our elected officials.
10:40, the Queen rules us according to this movie.
PART 13
02:15, claim that every commonwealth nation is owned by the Queen. I’ll write more when something new is said.
04:25, So the Queen doesn’t rule all. It is really the Committee of 300.
05:20, But the Queen is the head of the Illuminate, which is working to set up a NWO.
05:29, NWO spelled backwards is OWN, which is proof of their insidious plan. Not kidding the movie actually has a graphic to depict this.
06:07, back now to the Skull and Bones.
06:07-09:30, Spooky music and poorly recorded clips from news programs make for a brake, because I can’t make out a word of it.
10:45, The World Council of Churches and B’nai B’rith are apparently out to brainwash and kill us all.
PART 14
00:40, and here the movie blatantly goes off into anti-Semitism by flashing video of atomic bombs while talking about a Zionist NWO CT.
00:55, It seems that the Iranian earthquake awhile back was triggered using Tesla technology that allows the NWO to cause earthquakes.
01:52, now the movie is claiming that the U.S. uses their earthquake machine at the H.A.A.R.P. facility. It is like a big bag of crazy. Just waiting for the alien tie in.
02:25, the United States must be evil, we used atomic bombs.
02:26-03:38, and if you didn’t believe it before, well a full minute of war footage for the troofers to gut all turned on over.
04:11, Rothschild and his ring of power…kooky ol’ Sauron controlling the world economy again.
07:21-07:53, pictures of starving and dying children while it is claimed that the Rothschilds could feed everyone on Earth if only they wanted too.
09:55, statements that back in the day a Rothschild made a plot with some people to take over the worlds wealth.
PART 15
00:36, states that the colonists shot millions of American Indians.
03:15, everything up till now is just clips while claiming that Rothschild was partly responsible for the American Revolution.
05:00, every war in history is the fault of bankers, according to the movie.
06:10, the claim is made that the Illuminate was formed to take over the banks and make us slaves to debt.
06:38, so the Illumiate became part of the Freemasons.
09:13, Now movie claims that the entire wealth of the Catholic Church is under the control of the Rothschilds. Is it a bad sign when a documentary gets revisionist within itself? Hell I am done with this. Lets just move on to the next part.
PART 16
00:13, Okay you think the Rothschilds are evil…I get it movie.
00:59, Well it appears the American flag is really modeled after the Viking sails which are supposed to be the symbol of the tribe of Dan. Is nothing ever anything but a Joooo! Conspiracy?
03;16, meanwhile in another crazy documentary…Skull and Bones control the world, specifically the CIA.
03:36, claiming that the Skull and Bones is rooted in Kabala and Freemasonary. How surprising.
04:11, Okay so now Harry Potter is part of the Skull and Bones/Freemason plan.
05:35, Oh and the Mafia is now also part of the NWO conspiracy to take over the world, financed by the Illuminate/Freemasons.
06:59, Pike and his damn supposed plan for 3 world wars. CT’s never freakin’ die do they?
08:26, The movie claims that Rothschild and Albert Pike started the American Civil War, all while showing scenes from Glory and playing the Star Spangled Banner performance by Hendrix. I really hate this video.
09:08, Lincoln was killed by the Rothschilds to prevent the issuance of Greenbacks? Is there any CT this movie won’t try to tie together in some twisted way?
10:45, the movie just stated that New York City is on the opposite side of America from Washington D.C. and no I didn’t hear that wrong. I played it back three times. And the movie did this to connect Albert Pike to the Mafia.
PART 17
01:37, what is any good troofer movie without plenty of music like System of a Down.
02:28, okay so the entire complexity of history of the Federal Reserve is described in terms of a game of Monopoly. I should really stop watching at this point.
05:40, cue the music and pictures of dying and starving children while showing images of bankers and money.
07:58, sum it up. Bankers, start all wars, they’re bad, Rothschilds….Jooos! nothing new here merely restated the same crap over and over and over again. Oh and the Rothschilds and Zionists promised to bring the United States to Britain’s aid in WWI if only they would get Israel. (Consistency check; didn’t the movie claim that the Jooos! already control the world anyway?)
08:00-10:59, sum it up. Joooos! There lets move on to the next abomination.
PART 18
00:38, no time is wasted in claiming that the Russian Revolution was a plot by the Zionist bankers to kill the Czar for opposing the League of Nations.
01:37, Lenin was apparently in the pocket of the Rothschilds.
03:06, advertising is a banking conspiracy.
03:56, okay the movie just went from Stalin, and the Korean War complete with images of post WWII right back to the Great Depression.
up to 07:44, Rothschild, Rothschild, bankster, bankster…Great Depression was an inside job.
08:45, Prescott Bush, Nazi gold…
09:34, Here is an oldie but a goody. The ol’ Hitler was really a Jew claim. Yep, it is claimed by the movie that Hitler was a Rothschild.
PART 19
00:57, the claim that the Jews organized the Holocaust to kill off the not good enough Jews. Now is the point where I seriously hate this bile.
01:12, Khazar Jew stuff. No comment needed.
02:43, tries to claim that the fact that Denmark tried to keep Jews safe is proof of the movies holocaust claim.
05:02, lots of “we are evil for what we did to Japan”.
05:42, and here is where the movie gets into its, “Pearl Harbor was an inside job!” nonsense, although to be fair they claim it was only LIHOP.
09:02, movie tries to claim that the atomic bombings of Japan were in retaliation for Pearl Harbor, which was “preventable”. Ignorance of history.
10:14, Harry Truman was liked by Israel…so to the movie this means a Jewish connection to the atomic bombings of Japan. Bad movie, bad!
PART 20
00:46, the movie claims that Hitler escaped.
02:57, “The bankster pirates gave birth to their most powerful weapon of control, the United Nations.” There is nothing that I can say to show how stupid this is.
03:10, we now return you to the beginning of the movie in which we brainwashed you about the history of the Hebrew people. Because CT’ists can’t remember something for more than an hour unless you repeat it a dozen times.
05:50 actually presents suicide bombers in a heroic light, and no I am not making this up.
06:04, more from the earlier part of the movie. The Jews created the Bible as control.
07:34, the Bible is a movie script, back to the movie analogy. The destruction of the Dome of the Rock has to happen for the Zionists/Egyptians/British Queen/Rothschilds to win.
08:43 claims that the Star of David is the symbol of the Rothschilds and the mark of the Beast.
09:09, the Nazis run the CIA, part of a secret plan that somehow ties into the Jooos! controlling everything.
PART 21
01:38, The cold war was part of the conspiracy. What isn’t according to this movie.
up to 6:44, every war is the fault of the Zionists. There I summed up this section pretty easily.
07:05, statements that Kent State Massacre was to shut up the anti-war movement.
07:38, back to the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank being part of the conspiracy. In fact from here on out just say..bankster, bankster, bankster.
10:22, those same Banksters killed JFK too according to the movie.
PART 22
00:27, falsely states that Television was invented in the 1950’s. Bad research, and I should be used to it watching this crap. Oh and T.V. is also a conspiracy.
03:45, banksters, ball jokes, advertising is evil.
06:35, Florida election fix conspiracy.
07:35, Carlyle Group and the Emmy’s? I don’t really know.
08:02, Video games are part of the conspiracy, to make soldiers of the future. Followed by images of injured children. Troops are evil, etc.
09:48, School of the Americas. Scary skull face. The claim that the United States trained Bin Laden at said school.
PART 23
Oh, claims that Osama Bin Laden is funded by America, and we are involved in the drug trade.
05:00, Cartoon pirates, somehow connected to the Queen selling drugs to people?
05:43, now once again back to the Skull and Bones. Claims that CIA funded and recruited Bin Laden to run the drug trade.
07:53, the hippy movement was given drugs by the government. Celebrity anti-war activists were part of the bankster plan?
10:03, the Beatles are presented as a front for a conspiracy to corrupt the nations youth.
PART 24
00:34, claims that the peace symbol is a Satanic death rune. That one is something I haven’t heard since my days of living in a small Baptist town.
00:47, then just like that the movie jumps back to the CIA training Osama Bin Laden, but this time claims that it was Nazi and Skull and Bones members of the CIA.
01:25, now on to the claim that Afghanistan was invaded for an oil pipeline.
02:23, claims that the Bush administration gave the Taliban money to plan and execute 9-11.
07:06, claims that the first Gulf War was a secret conspiracy by Bush Sr.
10:03, states that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are about mass murder and piracy.
PART 25
01:43, compares the War in Iraq to Palestine.
04:35, now claiming that the positioning of Abu Gharab prisoners is that of an Egyptian pyramid. Preparing to be taken further into crazy town.
05:40, and now the movie claims that the war in Iraq is about revenge for what Babylon did.
07:20, Its officially over…officially over. The movie specifically mentions the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as something other than an anti-Semitic hoax. The movie is fully and without doubt complete crap right here right now.
From there on out, it is all about the Antichrist and NWO crap.
PART 26
01:30, the movie goes on to claim that the world will become Communist.
03:44, Remember the Dan Brownish stuff from earlier, well the movie claims that the descendent of Jesus will be the ruler of the NWO.
04:20, well apparently Prince William will be presented as the Antichrist so says this crappy movie. Why, because there is a photo of Prince William with a lamb.
06:47, big long photo shot of Prince William with scary music playing as his face is changed to look demonic. Funny, if it weren’t for how crazy troofers can be.
07:10, more monopoly analogies, always makes for intelligent discussion of complex issues; sort of like movie analogies.
09:34, the trick to stopping the NWO order is to “talk about”. An all powerful conspiracy can always be stopped by merely talking about it.
10:22, more lists of the dreaded Committee of 300, which can be defeated by talking and youtube videos.
PART 27
Don’t have a bank account, don’t have credit, buy Gold, etc
PART 28
Don’t pay taxes, not joking that is the basic statement here.
02:19, Don’t support the troops, with images of Iraqi children thrown in for effect.
02:59, A solution to the problem is to stop voting…so you can change the country by not voting? Nice… Oh and Bush is a descendent of royalty and the Hebrew Kings.
03:59, Stop obeying the law. Great idea there movie.
08:21, The movie then goes on to basically encourage the harassment of members of the “ruling families”.
PART 29
00:18, Same usual stuff. Blame all things bad no matter how long ago on the current members of the “ruling elite”.
02:30, and after listing all the crimes by the ruling elite, without providing evidence; and ends itself with an Eninem video.
-So there it is. The craziest CT video I have ever watched. I just saved everyone here 3+ hours they will never get back. I re-watched this, just to save everyone here the same misery I felt while watching it. Do what you will with this information.
It isn't really educational, just meant to point out with this butt-load of crazy really is. The best way I can describe it is putting every conspiracy together and then blaming it all on the Jews at the end. That is this movie. Enjoy.
Part 1.
Right off the bat this thing starts with the presumption that all things on 9-11 were fake. The description of the events as like an action packed Hollywood movie is the first problem, personally it goes to show that the creators are more absorbed by the images of Hollywood than they would like to believe.
The fact that cameras are everywhere on that day is a manifestation of the fact that technology is everywhere in our society. Any big event in the 21st century will be “filmed” from multiple angles, yet this video makes it seem strange. As if the President isn’t followed by media coverage at all times.
Then…I am not joking here…It ties the LotR film, The Two Towers, into the conspiracy. They also called it a Harvey Weinstein production, which is just foreshadowing of the videos anti-Semitism; because most people identify films by director…Peter Jackson. Again they use this as a way to tie into their insane notion that the entire thing is a made up event. Using snide commentary about the lack of director credits for 9-11.
02:23, put option nonsense. They also use the film maker terminology in here to present, without evidence, that a fortune was made off 9-11. It ignores of course that many put options are the result of projection that a stock would fall, and not “inside information”. Projecting that airline profits and thus stock would fall in September is not “spooky” it is merely projecting that less travel takes place after the busy summer travel season. But they use this to tie into a “military industrial complex” conspiracy.
03:50, Constant use of movie terms. Repeating it over and over to convince the viewer that “something” is up.
04:00, False Dichotomy “Conspiracy Theory Test” the simple fact that they can attempt to phrase any series of complex occurrences into such a question should be a clue to be suspicious.
05:09, statement without fact. It isn’t provable that there was concrete prior knowledge of anything. Again different departments had pieces of the puzzle, and this was why we developed a department of Homeland Security.
06:46, Airport security wasn’t at it finest prior to 9-11 and the video presents the idea of the 19 hijackers as some grand feat which it wasn’t given the security measures at the time.
07:52, 15 minutes to scramble nonsense again. The videos producers are very ignorant of how the military normally operates.
07:54, the POTUS remaining in the school was actually safer than leaving. It was already a secured location, and no one knew to what extreme the attack was taken place. It was better to have him remain than to remove him into an unsafe environment.
08:07, snuff porn for troofers. They do enjoy people leaping to their deaths because they are panicked and burning alive and suffocating.
09:58: presents the Pentagon crash with the normal troofer logic that has been argued here before.
10:09, Top Gun sequence. You should never use scenes from a better movie in your trash documentary. Notice the TBS Superstation watermark. Probably from their taped copy, which might explain where their view of the military comes from.
10:27, 8 miles away based upon looking at a road map length. Meaning that 8 miles by road, not literally 8 miles from the sight. History Channel actually dealt with this.
10:37, more evil media nonsense. They forget to mention that the media also portrayed a message telling people that Islam was not at fault, only bad people using Islam.
PART 2
00:37, because they weren’t citizens. Many foreign people I know make it a point to carry their passport. It is standard in practically every country, since the visa for being there is supposed to be kept in a passport. READ THE INSIDE OF YOUR PASSPORTS. Even countries that don’t require visas of Americans and other foreign citizens still require to passport to be kept on hand.
01:02, wow a case of lost luggage? Never…
01:32, people give away religious texts. People conveniently leave Bibles to be “found”, and I have known Muslims to leave English transliterations around. Remember transliterations of the Qur’an are not considered the true Qur’an by Muslims. Only in Arabic is the Qur’an true. For example I have one Qur’an, but 2 transliterations.
03:05, wow you mean he would blame Jews? Surprising. Still that doesn’t account for when he does claim responsibility.
04:11, okay the claim of an Osama mask is just stupid. Just stupid. If you believe a video is fake than it is provable, but yet troofers can’t prove that claim.
04:43, and many people believe Elvis is still alive. Belief doesn’t constitute fact.
Up till 05:32, more snuff porn for the troofers. War is awful, death is bad. That doesn’t mean 9-11 was an inside job.
05:55, this has been debunked. These are cases of people with the same names, or misidentifications.
06:12, FBI will only investigate identity theft involving American citizens or occurring in the United States.
06:23, because it is very likely that by taking on the identity of an Israeli they would be found out. The best they could do is impersonate an Israeli Arab, in which case the implication wouldn’t be on Judaism.
10:22, please establish who these top demolition experts are.
10:42, just wrong. There are no videos showing explosions at the base of the towers. Even the video itself can’t show these explosions.
PART 3
00:22, more of the whole explosions on the buildings, eye witness testimony stuff. See the rest of the forum for this.
00:48, Jet fuel melting steel straw man.
01:32, both towers were hit differently than each other. See the rest of the Forum for this information.
01:36, now on to building 7, making a specific point to link it to Silverstein.
01:43, never been hit…by a plane…not never been hit by the collapsing buildings.
02:02, specific reference to a “Jewish businessman”. You can tell were the video is heading.
03:00, more explosives in the building without detection nonsense. See forum.
04:47, big payouts…yeah. See forum.
05:37, flash over a monopoly game with World Bank and Rothchild. Propaganda.
06:01, statements of proof of a bank connection to 9-11 without evidence.
09:32, again with the movie analogy. Brain washing is a great description of this video.
09:51, now the video attempts to connect everything to a secret Skull and Bones conspiracy.
PART 4
00:47, misappropriation of the term Zionism. Judaism teaches that the Jews are the chosen people, but anti-Semites twist this idea into an accusation of extremism.
03:01, for some reason they show a clip from Glory, which is offensive to see a great film dragged into this mess.
03:22, the video then moves on to claim that all the major wars in human history are a big conspiracy.
03:47, compares Vatican City to Washington D.C. even though Vatican City is its own nation. But now we move to a Catholic Conspiracy. Great, right here I begin to believe that White Supremacists put this video together.
05:21, oh noes! Religious symbols of the crucifixion at the Vatican!?!?! There it is, proof
of an inside job.
06:05, and now scenes from South Park. For over three damn minutes.
09:40, the video claims the Pope is the richest man on Earth, despite not actually owning any of the wealth of the Vatican. Then the video presents the Vatican as evil, and hoarding the worlds wealth.
PART 5
Now the video connects the crusades to the conspiracy.
00:37, the Freemasons are, according to the video, the Crusaders. Knights Templar.
00:47, the inquisition, lets begin! The Inquisition, look out sin! We’re on a mission, to convert the Jews! Basically connecting this to the 9-11 attacks?
00:55, falsely exaggerates the number of people killed in the Inquisition to millions. Burning times reference. Gives me the impression that most of this is coming from someone’s shallow research.
01:55, the video then goes into a combination of Hitler/Vatican history, and Priest sex scandal. As if they are related to each other.
02:59, now the video presents the city of London as the wealthiest city state on Earth. Forgetting the Vatican all together, and never calling it back after its one night stand.
04:01, now if you thought the LotR reference was out of place….well Rothchild is presented above the ring of power. So Rothchild is lord Sauron? Well movie all you need to do is get a few troofers to throw his ring into the fires of Mount Doom.
04:16, but you only mentioned four ruling families. What about the other nine movie?
04:13, now the movie presents British ownership of land in former British colonies as something to be surprised about.
04:55, according to the video the District of Columbia was created in 1982. Never existed before then I suppose.
05:57, so appearantly the three stars on the flag of Washington D.C. symbolize the city states of the Vatican, London and itself. Of course it is actually based off the coat of arms of George Washington’s family crest, but the movie producer couldn’t do the 10 minutes of research it took me to find that.
06:20, we are apparently still a British colony. King James will be coming to your house soon, because King James said so. According to movie we never actually won the war of independence.
07:33, Do you remember learning the 13th amendment abolished slavery? Well apparently it doesn’t. At least according to this movie. It secretly gives the King of England rule over the United States.
07:50, ignores the fact that United States officials were already forbidden from holding or being granted titles of nobility by Article 1, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution.
08:33, and now we move to Aaron Russo territory. The video goes into the Rothchilds and the Federal Reserve and how we are all slaves.
08:37, video states the private Federal Reserve line, ignoring the Public-Private design of the Federal Reserve.
09:28, then the video presents that the President is elected by the Federal Reserve. Going into the Skull and Bones CT.
10:05, It seems the United States is a corporation. Don’t prove it, but they say it is so.
10:40, the video presents the existence of stone obelisks in Washington D.C., Vatican City, and London as proof of a conspiracy.
PART 6
00:20, The Washington Monument is proof of some Freemason Conspiracy. According to the movie.
02:09, the phrase Amen, according to the video, is really a prayer to every Egyptian god.
02:20, Oh no. Test’ amen ent is used to show the worship of Amun. I am trapped in Zeitgeist again!
02:41, Again the video continues down this path; but like Zeitgeist no one ever thought to look at a non-English bible.
04:19, the movie falsely identifies the Palestinians as the sole descendents of the Canaanites, ignoring modern research.
06:16, now showing Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yeah that always helps when watching a bad movie, show scenes from a good one. Sad to say, but raiders would be more educational than this.
06:53, earliest remains of human life on Earth are implied as being in Egypt by the movie. Right now my brain has sort of stopped working. I fear I may enter troofer brain fog.
07:33, scenes from the Ten Commandments. Oh Charlton Heston, if you were still alive you could save me from the brain hurtng.
08:13, at this point I am officially watching Zeitgeist again. The Jews are really Egyptians…according to the movie.
09:10, at this point the movie is just pushing me. I swear, this is a personal affront trying to force me to destroy my computer. The movie completely ignores Mesopotamian history in its telling of Hebrew history.
10:01, anyone circumcised? Well you are officially owned by the Hebrews.
PART 7
01:01, Mormon Joseph Smith’s Egyptologists believed that Amenhotept was Abraham, and so it is naturally true…according to the movie.
01:50, Another scene from Raiders, only this time to claim that Abraham’s remains are in the Ark of the Covenant. Forget that Ten Commandments stuff, besides I firmly believe the mental patient responsible is just making this **** up as they go along at this point. Given the sound of their recording equipment irritating me. I mean they obviously edited this, couldn’t they at least spring for a microphone not from the $20 section of Wal-Mart?
03:41, Okay uses the fact that the Hebrews, according to the Bible, carried the Ark into battle as proof it couldn’t contain the commandments. Because it would violate the commandments. I don’t know anymore?
04:11, the movie now claims all the evidence shows that Abraham is Amenhotep, but never provides this evidence.
07:17, okay. So apparently the steps leading to the Royal throne in England are a representation of the step pyramid in Egypt.
PART 8
Biblical history isn’t my thing, at least at the moment, and so I won’t make it a point to comment; unless something is really wrong.
07:30, okay. I’ll some it up. A lot of attempts to claim that Egyptian and Hebrew history represent the same people and same things. More of the Hebrews are Egyptians. What makes it funny is the use of clips from LotR to symbolize Solomon.
08:24, fantastical religious writings may not be true? Wow, that is amazing.
10:14, so apparently we are still ruled by the Egyptians?
10:49, video of Vikings…I guess they are Egyptian too.
PART 9
01:32, the Queen of England is an Egyptian queen……….okay…….
02:01, claims that the twelve stones on the crown represent the twelve tribes of Israel.
02:31, the Union Jack represents the twelve tribes of Israel. Why, because you could pronounce it like Jack-ub, which of course is proof.
Okay, just a whole hell of a lot of crap about connecting the British Royal family to Egyptians. I don’t even have to work with this. It is crazy pure and simple.
09:03, oh hell…now it is back to ancient Israel. Can’t this movie stick with a chronology?
10:38, once again I am sucked into Zeitgeist.
PART 10
It is better to just call this part Zeitgeist Part 1 and leave it at that until it changes.
02:09, okay…here is a fun claim. Jesus was the son of Cleopatra and Julius Caesar. I can’t make this crap up.
03:03, and now we return to Zeitgeist part 1 already in progress.
04:29, now we are told that Jesus went to India to learn Buddhism. Oh man…
06:53, So the claim is made that Jesus was a Buddhist.
08:22, of course the brothers of Jesus are the children of Marc Anthony…oh
09:22, it takes a special movie to make me long for the logic of Zeitgeist.
10:27, well I wrote too soon. Some nice Zeitgeistian logic here. Jesus became Jesus Christ because it had the same initials as Julius Caesar. Someone never learned the fact that different languages lack the same alphabet. Or that Christ was a title, and not actually his last name.
10:43, So the movie has gone to the insane. Jesus planned on taking over the Roman Empire by making a new religion and there by creating the Holy Roman Empire. Not making this up…the documentary actually states this.
PART 11
00:50, the movie jumps off the deep end to a place without regard to any fact whatsoever.
00:59, The movie asks the question as to what Jesus did from 8 to 30. Valid point, but of course being a troofer question it is meant to imply that the other b.s. is true.
01:16, now the legend that Jesus went to England. This movie just can’t decide what the hell sort of history it wants to believe.
03:53, the movie makes the claim that the Zealots became the Zionists of today. A dubious claim that has actually been discussed here before.
05:11, the Jesus survival stuff. We are now moving into the Di Vinci Code stuff here.
05:47, oh…no…the crucifixion was an inside job. Meant to fool the Romans.
08:07, okay so the movie is now saying that the Statue of Liberty is a symbol of Mary Magdalene.
09:41, So the Statue of Liberty is pregnant, which proves that Dan Brown is right and Mary had children.
PART 12
01:00, Restates its claim that all the Jesus cast were in fact children of Cleopatra and assorted Jewish/Egyptian/Roman royalty.
02:11, oh no…the same stock footage. The movie is now just repeating.
03:04, no movie I take it back. Please don’t claim that the Vikings are Jewish. No the movie literally claims that the Vikings are the remains of the Israeli tribes dispersed from Palestine. From the movie…Vikings. VI means six in Roman numbers, and so you end up with 6 Kings, meaning the tribes forced out of Israel. Kill me please!
05:59, why didn’t you kill me? The movie is now playing “The Power” by Snap with images of the Queen splashed across the screen.
06:37, Queen Elizabeth is the most powerful person on Earth, it seems that in the time it took to make this documentary the power and wealth of the Pope was usurped by the Queen. God knows it feels like it has been that long.
07:29, the movie continues the claim, outside of reality, that the President of the United States is merely a servant of the Queen; somehow because we refuse to bestow titles of nobility on our elected officials.
10:40, the Queen rules us according to this movie.
PART 13
02:15, claim that every commonwealth nation is owned by the Queen. I’ll write more when something new is said.
04:25, So the Queen doesn’t rule all. It is really the Committee of 300.
05:20, But the Queen is the head of the Illuminate, which is working to set up a NWO.
05:29, NWO spelled backwards is OWN, which is proof of their insidious plan. Not kidding the movie actually has a graphic to depict this.
06:07, back now to the Skull and Bones.
06:07-09:30, Spooky music and poorly recorded clips from news programs make for a brake, because I can’t make out a word of it.
10:45, The World Council of Churches and B’nai B’rith are apparently out to brainwash and kill us all.
PART 14
00:40, and here the movie blatantly goes off into anti-Semitism by flashing video of atomic bombs while talking about a Zionist NWO CT.
00:55, It seems that the Iranian earthquake awhile back was triggered using Tesla technology that allows the NWO to cause earthquakes.
01:52, now the movie is claiming that the U.S. uses their earthquake machine at the H.A.A.R.P. facility. It is like a big bag of crazy. Just waiting for the alien tie in.
02:25, the United States must be evil, we used atomic bombs.
02:26-03:38, and if you didn’t believe it before, well a full minute of war footage for the troofers to gut all turned on over.
04:11, Rothschild and his ring of power…kooky ol’ Sauron controlling the world economy again.
07:21-07:53, pictures of starving and dying children while it is claimed that the Rothschilds could feed everyone on Earth if only they wanted too.
09:55, statements that back in the day a Rothschild made a plot with some people to take over the worlds wealth.
PART 15
00:36, states that the colonists shot millions of American Indians.
03:15, everything up till now is just clips while claiming that Rothschild was partly responsible for the American Revolution.
05:00, every war in history is the fault of bankers, according to the movie.
06:10, the claim is made that the Illuminate was formed to take over the banks and make us slaves to debt.
06:38, so the Illumiate became part of the Freemasons.
09:13, Now movie claims that the entire wealth of the Catholic Church is under the control of the Rothschilds. Is it a bad sign when a documentary gets revisionist within itself? Hell I am done with this. Lets just move on to the next part.
PART 16
00:13, Okay you think the Rothschilds are evil…I get it movie.
00:59, Well it appears the American flag is really modeled after the Viking sails which are supposed to be the symbol of the tribe of Dan. Is nothing ever anything but a Joooo! Conspiracy?
03;16, meanwhile in another crazy documentary…Skull and Bones control the world, specifically the CIA.
03:36, claiming that the Skull and Bones is rooted in Kabala and Freemasonary. How surprising.
04:11, Okay so now Harry Potter is part of the Skull and Bones/Freemason plan.
05:35, Oh and the Mafia is now also part of the NWO conspiracy to take over the world, financed by the Illuminate/Freemasons.
06:59, Pike and his damn supposed plan for 3 world wars. CT’s never freakin’ die do they?
08:26, The movie claims that Rothschild and Albert Pike started the American Civil War, all while showing scenes from Glory and playing the Star Spangled Banner performance by Hendrix. I really hate this video.
09:08, Lincoln was killed by the Rothschilds to prevent the issuance of Greenbacks? Is there any CT this movie won’t try to tie together in some twisted way?
10:45, the movie just stated that New York City is on the opposite side of America from Washington D.C. and no I didn’t hear that wrong. I played it back three times. And the movie did this to connect Albert Pike to the Mafia.
PART 17
01:37, what is any good troofer movie without plenty of music like System of a Down.
02:28, okay so the entire complexity of history of the Federal Reserve is described in terms of a game of Monopoly. I should really stop watching at this point.
05:40, cue the music and pictures of dying and starving children while showing images of bankers and money.
07:58, sum it up. Bankers, start all wars, they’re bad, Rothschilds….Jooos! nothing new here merely restated the same crap over and over and over again. Oh and the Rothschilds and Zionists promised to bring the United States to Britain’s aid in WWI if only they would get Israel. (Consistency check; didn’t the movie claim that the Jooos! already control the world anyway?)
08:00-10:59, sum it up. Joooos! There lets move on to the next abomination.
PART 18
00:38, no time is wasted in claiming that the Russian Revolution was a plot by the Zionist bankers to kill the Czar for opposing the League of Nations.
01:37, Lenin was apparently in the pocket of the Rothschilds.
03:06, advertising is a banking conspiracy.
03:56, okay the movie just went from Stalin, and the Korean War complete with images of post WWII right back to the Great Depression.
up to 07:44, Rothschild, Rothschild, bankster, bankster…Great Depression was an inside job.
08:45, Prescott Bush, Nazi gold…
09:34, Here is an oldie but a goody. The ol’ Hitler was really a Jew claim. Yep, it is claimed by the movie that Hitler was a Rothschild.
PART 19
00:57, the claim that the Jews organized the Holocaust to kill off the not good enough Jews. Now is the point where I seriously hate this bile.
01:12, Khazar Jew stuff. No comment needed.
02:43, tries to claim that the fact that Denmark tried to keep Jews safe is proof of the movies holocaust claim.
05:02, lots of “we are evil for what we did to Japan”.
05:42, and here is where the movie gets into its, “Pearl Harbor was an inside job!” nonsense, although to be fair they claim it was only LIHOP.
09:02, movie tries to claim that the atomic bombings of Japan were in retaliation for Pearl Harbor, which was “preventable”. Ignorance of history.
10:14, Harry Truman was liked by Israel…so to the movie this means a Jewish connection to the atomic bombings of Japan. Bad movie, bad!
PART 20
00:46, the movie claims that Hitler escaped.
02:57, “The bankster pirates gave birth to their most powerful weapon of control, the United Nations.” There is nothing that I can say to show how stupid this is.
03:10, we now return you to the beginning of the movie in which we brainwashed you about the history of the Hebrew people. Because CT’ists can’t remember something for more than an hour unless you repeat it a dozen times.
05:50 actually presents suicide bombers in a heroic light, and no I am not making this up.
06:04, more from the earlier part of the movie. The Jews created the Bible as control.
07:34, the Bible is a movie script, back to the movie analogy. The destruction of the Dome of the Rock has to happen for the Zionists/Egyptians/British Queen/Rothschilds to win.
08:43 claims that the Star of David is the symbol of the Rothschilds and the mark of the Beast.
09:09, the Nazis run the CIA, part of a secret plan that somehow ties into the Jooos! controlling everything.
PART 21
01:38, The cold war was part of the conspiracy. What isn’t according to this movie.
up to 6:44, every war is the fault of the Zionists. There I summed up this section pretty easily.
07:05, statements that Kent State Massacre was to shut up the anti-war movement.
07:38, back to the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank being part of the conspiracy. In fact from here on out just say..bankster, bankster, bankster.
10:22, those same Banksters killed JFK too according to the movie.
PART 22
00:27, falsely states that Television was invented in the 1950’s. Bad research, and I should be used to it watching this crap. Oh and T.V. is also a conspiracy.
03:45, banksters, ball jokes, advertising is evil.
06:35, Florida election fix conspiracy.
07:35, Carlyle Group and the Emmy’s? I don’t really know.
08:02, Video games are part of the conspiracy, to make soldiers of the future. Followed by images of injured children. Troops are evil, etc.
09:48, School of the Americas. Scary skull face. The claim that the United States trained Bin Laden at said school.
PART 23
Oh, claims that Osama Bin Laden is funded by America, and we are involved in the drug trade.
05:00, Cartoon pirates, somehow connected to the Queen selling drugs to people?
05:43, now once again back to the Skull and Bones. Claims that CIA funded and recruited Bin Laden to run the drug trade.
07:53, the hippy movement was given drugs by the government. Celebrity anti-war activists were part of the bankster plan?
10:03, the Beatles are presented as a front for a conspiracy to corrupt the nations youth.
PART 24
00:34, claims that the peace symbol is a Satanic death rune. That one is something I haven’t heard since my days of living in a small Baptist town.
00:47, then just like that the movie jumps back to the CIA training Osama Bin Laden, but this time claims that it was Nazi and Skull and Bones members of the CIA.
01:25, now on to the claim that Afghanistan was invaded for an oil pipeline.
02:23, claims that the Bush administration gave the Taliban money to plan and execute 9-11.
07:06, claims that the first Gulf War was a secret conspiracy by Bush Sr.
10:03, states that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are about mass murder and piracy.
PART 25
01:43, compares the War in Iraq to Palestine.
04:35, now claiming that the positioning of Abu Gharab prisoners is that of an Egyptian pyramid. Preparing to be taken further into crazy town.
05:40, and now the movie claims that the war in Iraq is about revenge for what Babylon did.
07:20, Its officially over…officially over. The movie specifically mentions the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as something other than an anti-Semitic hoax. The movie is fully and without doubt complete crap right here right now.
From there on out, it is all about the Antichrist and NWO crap.
PART 26
01:30, the movie goes on to claim that the world will become Communist.
03:44, Remember the Dan Brownish stuff from earlier, well the movie claims that the descendent of Jesus will be the ruler of the NWO.
04:20, well apparently Prince William will be presented as the Antichrist so says this crappy movie. Why, because there is a photo of Prince William with a lamb.
06:47, big long photo shot of Prince William with scary music playing as his face is changed to look demonic. Funny, if it weren’t for how crazy troofers can be.
07:10, more monopoly analogies, always makes for intelligent discussion of complex issues; sort of like movie analogies.
09:34, the trick to stopping the NWO order is to “talk about”. An all powerful conspiracy can always be stopped by merely talking about it.
10:22, more lists of the dreaded Committee of 300, which can be defeated by talking and youtube videos.
PART 27
Don’t have a bank account, don’t have credit, buy Gold, etc
PART 28
Don’t pay taxes, not joking that is the basic statement here.
02:19, Don’t support the troops, with images of Iraqi children thrown in for effect.
02:59, A solution to the problem is to stop voting…so you can change the country by not voting? Nice… Oh and Bush is a descendent of royalty and the Hebrew Kings.
03:59, Stop obeying the law. Great idea there movie.
08:21, The movie then goes on to basically encourage the harassment of members of the “ruling families”.
PART 29
00:18, Same usual stuff. Blame all things bad no matter how long ago on the current members of the “ruling elite”.
02:30, and after listing all the crimes by the ruling elite, without providing evidence; and ends itself with an Eninem video.
-So there it is. The craziest CT video I have ever watched. I just saved everyone here 3+ hours they will never get back. I re-watched this, just to save everyone here the same misery I felt while watching it. Do what you will with this information.