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geggy
9th June 2008, 08:31 AM
Check out osama bin laden's latest video release in september 2007 in its entirety. Go into 5 minutes or so and you can see that the image is frozen. Of course the media failed to notice this and showed only snippets of him moving.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2007/09/11/VI2007091102116.html

Also check out this link...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/180707oldfootage.htm

Aaaand one more thing i want to mention...


By JoAnne Allen - Wed May 28, 12:04 AM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - There is no evidence of a direct threat from al Qaeda or that the group has obtained weapons of mass destruction, U.S. intelligence officials said on Tuesday, despite reports that al Qaeda will release a new video urging jihadists to use such weapons to attack the West.

FBI spokesman Richard Kolko said the bureau sent out an alert to U.S. law enforcement agencies about the expected video. "We got information the tape is coming," he said. "We sent out an alert to law enforcement to let them know the tape was coming."

Kolko said the alert was a routine precaution sent to 1,800 U.S. law enforcement agencies.

ABC News reported on Tuesday evening that the video was expected in the next 24 hours.

However, IntelCenter, a U.S.-based terrorism monitoring firm, said the video being referred to was actually released at least as early as Monday and is entitled "Nuclear Jihad, The Ultimate Terror."

IntelCenter described it as "a jihadi supporter video compilation" and said that it was not from an official group.

"These videos almost always are comprised of old video footage that is edited together to make a new video," IntelCenter said. "The material in these types of videos do not qualify as an official message from al-Qaeda or any other group."

A U.S. intelligence official said on Tuesday evening that there is no sign that al Qaeda has acquired the capability to use weapons of mass destruction.

"At this point there isn't evidence they've obtained it," the official said on condition of anonymity. "But it's clearly their intent and it's something we need to be aware of and concerned about."

The dollar dipped slightly on the ABC News report against the euro and Swiss franc.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080528/ts_nm/security_qaeda_tape_dc_4

I would like to hear how the debunkers came to a theory that it is propaganda facilitated by al Qaeda...

funk de fino
9th June 2008, 08:56 AM
You linked Prisonplanet, you lose already.

geggy
9th June 2008, 09:10 AM
DEBUNKED!!!!

But do you agree there is something odd that same footages have been used three different times and the media calling it "newly" released footage?


By the way i "lose"? Is this a boxing match or something? If so, what round are we in now??

funk de fino
9th June 2008, 09:23 AM
DEBUNKED!!!!

But do you agree there is something odd that same footages have been used three different times and the media calling it "newly" released footage?


By the way i "lose"? Is this a boxing match or something? If so, what round are we in now??

Dont know what round but its about 7 years and you have failed to win any decisions?

I have a porn clip that freezes at a certain point when watching, does it mean it is not Jenna Jameson?

Media can call it whatever they want, it makes no difference.

geggy
9th June 2008, 09:27 AM
Yeah so do you think it is al qaeda propaganda? if so, why?

funk de fino
9th June 2008, 09:28 AM
Yeah so do you think it is al qaeda propaganda? if so, why?

My porn clip is not AQ propoganda and it is Jenna Jameson

geggy
9th June 2008, 09:38 AM
cool beans.

anybody else?

Par
9th June 2008, 09:40 AM
But do you agree there is something odd that same footages have been used three different times and the media calling it "newly" released footage?


I don’t know if your claim is true. In any event, on several different occasions, the British press reported as a recent breakthrough the story of a man whose amputated finger had regenerated thanks to a revolutionary cellular compound. The “breakthrough” was only genuinely recent on the first such occasion. (It was also, incidentally, almost certainly bogus.) However, I don’t think that this serves as compelling evidence of some vast and nebulous conspiracy. It’s more a case of poor journalism.

theauthor
9th June 2008, 10:13 AM
You linked Prisonplanet, you lose already.


Wow, thats some great debunking!

johnny karate
9th June 2008, 11:12 AM
One does not pluralize "footage".

Arus808
9th June 2008, 11:15 AM
well damn, my old vhs recordings "freeze" when the tape in that section is wrinkled up.
my lD's that have laser rot, freezes at a point where the disc has been corrupted
Cd's will stall on a scratched area

DVD, especially dual layered ones, can freeze as it switches between layers.,


wow....

A W Smith
9th June 2008, 11:20 AM
DEBUNKED!!!!

But do you agree there is something odd that same footages have been used three different times and the media calling it "newly" released footage?


By the way i "lose"? Is this a boxing match or something? If so, what round are we in now??


for you, Round 457;

you have a lot in common with this guy (http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/mythbusters/videogalleries/buster/buster.html)

Alt+F4
9th June 2008, 11:28 AM
Why would al quaeda need WMDs? They murder people quite efficiently with airplanes.

Drudgewire
9th June 2008, 11:52 AM
One does not pluralize "footage".

Besides, everyone knows the plural is "feetage." ;)

Pardalis
9th June 2008, 12:27 PM
Check out osama bin laden's latest video release in september 2007 in its entirety. Go into 5 minutes or so and you can see that the image is frozen. Of course the media failed to notice this and showed only snippets of him moving.

And what is your conclusion, and how did you come to it?

Did you consider every possibilities of why this video freezes before you came to the conclusion of a conspiracy?

funk de fino
9th June 2008, 01:19 PM
Wow, thats some great debunking!

Prisonplanet junk needs no debunking. Its worse than your trolling

Myriad
9th June 2008, 02:14 PM
I see no rationale suggesting that a "freeze" in a portion of the video -- or crude video editing in general -- is in any way inconsistent with:

a. The tape being made by Al Qaeda.
b. The tape being made by supporters of Al Qaeda by editing fragments of other Al Qaeda tapes together.
c. The tape being made by hoaxers.
d. The tape being made by CIA disnifo agents.
e. The tape being made by aliens.

Since the glitch you describe is consistent with all rational and most irrational possibilities for the tape's source, it has no power to evidence one possibility over another. That is adequate justification for the press -- and for the rest of us -- to pay no attention to it.

Respectfully,
Myriad

mrbaracuda
9th June 2008, 03:04 PM
I have a porn clip that freezes at a certain point when watching, does it mean it is not Jenna Jameson?

I like people who have Jenna clips and use the system font.