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JJM
14th June 2008, 01:03 PM
Minnesota has become the latest state to allow naturopaths (NDs) to play doctor. Some blogs to check:
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=141

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/06/doctors_of_naturopathy_in_minnesota.php

http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2008/06/naturopathy.php

Naturopathy gets my vote for the ultimate in quackery. Some people say that should be homeopathy; but n'pathy includes h'pathy, and every other stupid idea. See http://www.naturowatch.org for articles explaining it; be sure to read Dr. Relman's review of their Textbook of Natural Medicine.

If there is a central idea to n'pathy, it is the removal of imaginary toxins from the body by methods including enemas. That was a standard, 19th century idea in medicine; but it was abandoned by rational medicine around 80 years ago as modern anatomy and physiology discredited it.

N'paths also claim to focus on preventive medicine; but they disdain vaccines. None of the real advances in prevention (personal hygiene, sanitation, vaccination, aseptic technique, etc.) have come from NDs. In fact, I recently heard an n'path on the radio, speaking about cancer prevention, and she did not mention tobacco (the cause of 1/3 of cancer in the US)!? And she is supposed to be a cancer specialist.

Registration of quacks (n'paths, h'paths, chiroquacktors, etc) is literally a license to kill. At naturowatch, you can read about the licensed n'path in Hawaii who's wife had a curable disease; yet she died because he "treated" her with herbs. He was not reprimanded by his colleagues because that is the "standard of practice" in their cult. More recently, an unlicensed n'path in Utah (where n'paths can be licensed) was arrested for, similarly, killing a woman. His lawyer complained that he would not be in trouble if UT had just granted him a license. How profound. Hi, I am John Doe, ND, 007.

In Massachusetts, where I live, there are fewer than 40 NDs; yet 2 of them live within walking distance of my place in the most rural part of the state (I feel blessed). MA does not license NDs; so they practice medicine without a license. I wonder how they get away with it.

skeptigirl
14th June 2008, 02:13 PM
This goes to demonstrate the movement to have all this non-evidence based medicine funneled into the mainstream really needs a counter attack.

Greediguts
14th June 2008, 09:41 PM
I suggest a counter-attack of Guns, Germs, and Steel.

Not the book...we should apply each to all naturopaths.

fuelair
15th June 2008, 07:21 PM
I suggest a counter-attack of Guns, Germs, and Steel.

Not the book...we should apply each to all naturopaths.I'm up for that!! I prescribe .45 inch diameter pills with high Pb content delivered by injection at app 1750fps.:)

godless dave
16th June 2008, 03:43 PM
As a Minnesotan, I'm embarassed. If Jesse were still governor this nonsense wouldn't have happened.

Eos of the Eons
17th June 2008, 07:24 PM
I read a whiny article that said "self taught" sCAM artists ought to get licenses too. Hm. Wonder if they would let me build bridges in that state if I self-teach myself some engineering???? Of course, it would be "alternative" engineering. All sorts of chit I could make up about that.

MattusMaximus
17th June 2008, 08:34 PM
Sometimes I think we need a really nasty plague to come along and remind everyone just how useful modern scientific medicine really is. Once people start dropping like flies, just watch the n'paths and their ilk go running to the real doctors for help. As long as things are going relatively well and people are basically healthy (due to scientific medicine), these sCAMmers will make a good living because they can take the credit for good health. But when your kid is bleeding out of his eyeballs, are you going to listen to Kevin Trudeau or your local n'path, or are you going to go to the people who've studied rigorous scientific medicine? For most people I think the choice would be simple.