Is breast-feeding erotic?

[Mycroft]

When does a snapshot of a mother breast-feeding her child become kiddie porn? Ask the Richardson police.

The service was fast, the judgments even hastier. Never did Jacqueline Mercado imagine that four rolls of film dropped off at an Eckerd Drugs one-hour photo lab near her home would turn her life inside out, threaten to send her to jail and prompt the state to take away her kids.

Full article:

http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2003-04-17/feature2.html/1/index.html

My country is crazy.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I don't know about anyone else, but it turns me on. :eek:

[SRW]

I was having a garage sale one day and a neighbor came by with a baby at her tit. I had a hell of a time selling anything to her I just wanted her to go away. I ended up selling her a $125.00 jogging stroller for $10 bucks. I found it distracting but no way should it be illegal.

[Jessica Blue]

The caseworker's notes state that a supervisor, acting on the content of the photos alone, decided that "the children needed to be removed from their mother's care.

[amazed]What kind of neurotic paranoia is this...? Next thing you know parents will have to have a registered nurse present before they bathe their children.

[a_unique_person]

We had uproar here because a politician was asked to leave for breastfeeding her child in parliament.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/02/26/1046064087977.html



Parliament sour on breastfeeding MP
February 26 2003




Parliamentarian Kirstie Marshall with new baby Charlotte Louise at parliament house.


Former Olympic skier Kirstie Marshall caused a stir in the Victorian parliament today, breastfeeding her new baby in the chamber then missing her first question time.

Ms Marshall, the member for the Melbourne suburban electorate of Forest Hill, was breastfeeding 11-day-old baby Charlotte in the Legislative Assembly prior to the ringing of the bells calling the house to order.

She left the chamber after being approached by the Sergeant-at-Arms



http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/213010.htm

Most people seemed to think she should be allowed to do it, but apparently, the problem was the rule that only elected parliamentarians and the parliament officials are allowed into the chamber.

Later on, on a popular chat show, one of the panelists breast fed her baby on TV.

http://www.bfnews.blogspot.com/

[WildCat]

Still, at press time, child welfare authorities continue to maintain control of the boys, even though a lawyer appointed to represent them says he believes they should go home. In its latest legal filing, the state said it would not consent to releasing the boys until the couple jumps through more hoops, including a lie-detector test they must take at their own expense.
Is this legal (the lie detector part)? Why don't they just hire a psychic to evaluate the parents?

This is assinine. Who doesn't have baby pics of bath time, or running around naked?

Maybe the police detectives who think that a baby breast feeding is "erotic" should be evaluated.

[shanek]

It's despicable, but not surprising. When it comes to DSS, or whatever your local "child welfare" people are called, you're guilty until proven innocent...and maybe even after that, as in this case. These governmental departments end up committing far more child abuse by traumatizing children by taking them away from good and loving parents than they actually solve.

A big local case, which I've mentioned here before, is that of Jack and Kathy Stratton. There were allegations that the home they lived in was inadequate for the appropriate rearing of their ten children, and problems with food etc. The Strattons fixed these problems and everything should have been fine.

Then Mecklenburg County DSS, on January 30, 2001 went out of their jurisdiction into the neighboring county where the Strattons lived to, well, let's call it what it is: abduct the children even though the local DSS authorities said there was no reason to do so, and even submitted notarized affadavits to that effect later on. These kidnappers have had the Strattons' kids for more than two and a half years now, during which time several of them have been subjected to sexual abuse in their foster homes. DSS has even kept the oldest from returning home, even though he is now over 18 and has the right to choose to live where he wants. The court terminated the Strattons' parental rights on June 10th of this year, despite the fact that they had appealed the ruling of the DSS officials. Their appeal was rendered "moot" and dismissed.

It is blindingly obvious that the state knows that they have screwed up and are doing their best to cover it up. Every avenue the Strattons have under the NC Constitution has been completely closed off to them. Stratton has been gagged from speaking to the press while the DSS officials give their story (although they have constantly refused to answer the most basic questions from the press). But they have officially stated that the secual abuse suffered by the children is better than what they would have experienced under the Strattons. What, short of murder and mutilation, could possibly be worse on a child than sexual abuse?

[shanek]

Originally posted by Jessica Blue
[amazed]What kind of neurotic paranoia is this...? Next thing you know parents will have to have a registered nurse present before they bathe their children.

I once read of a woman who was told by police that she couldn't have her 3-year-old daughter at a pool without a top on because it was inviting pedophiles. This is just government thinking¹, folks.

¹Oxymoron

[MoeFaux]

This is appalling.
Babies suck on their mother's tits to live. It's a very intimate bonding experience, and it gives life.

Who wants to bet that the whole "no naked pictures in the bathtub" idea stems from geeky nerd polititians whose Mothers embarassed them as teens by showing thier dates pictures of them in the bath at age 4?

This womans life is now ruined. She's not white, she's an immigrant, and now they've plastered her name all over the news with this. It's just discrimination.

[WildCat]

Originally posted by shanek
It is blindingly obvious that the state knows that they have screwed up and are doing their best to cover it up. Every avenue the Strattons have under the NC Constitution has been completely closed off to them. Stratton has been gagged from speaking to the press while the DSS officials give their story (although they have constantly refused to answer the most basic questions from the press). But they have officially stated that the secual abuse suffered by the children is better than what they would have experienced under the Strattons. What, short of murder and mutilation, could possibly be worse on a child than sexual abuse?
Here in Illinois the head of DCFS has issued gag orders forbidding any employee from talking to the press and forbidding the release of any DCFS records. This followed several embarassing newspaper stories of children being abused under DCFS care. It is really despicable, I believe several newspapers are suing to have the records opened up.

[MoeFaux]

Originally posted by shanek


I once read of a woman who was told by police that she couldn't have her 3-year-old daughter at a pool without a top on because it was inviting pedophiles. This is just government thinking¹, folks.

¹Oxymoron

Yeah, that was just two months ago in a waterpark. I'll try and find the article.

There was another topless tot incedent a few weeks ago, with someone taking a picture of their toddler daughter topless in their family swimming pool. They had the photos developed and then their lives were ruined.

[Jessica Blue]

We had uproar here because a politician was asked to leave for breastfeeding her child in parliament.

I remember that. There was also a case a while back, where a woman was [very discreetly] breastfeeding in a courtroom, and was made to leave by a squeamish magistrate. If the woman is discreet, which most are... what is the problem with public breastfeeding? Personally, I'd rather be confronted with a flash of breast than the screech of a hungry, screaming infant.

I just wanted her to go away. I ended up selling her a $125.00 jogging stroller for $10 bucks

What a bargain...

Note to self:Must try and get hold of a baby to attach to my breast next time I go to do some haggling.

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Jessica Blue
Note to self:Must try and get hold of a baby to attach to my breast next time I go to do some haggling.
I'm guessing that a baby-free naked breast would accomplish the same purpose.

[EvilYeti]

Originally posted by MoeFaux
This is appalling.
Babies suck on their mother's tits to live.

Well, whats your excuse then? :D

[MoeFaux]

Originally posted by EvilYeti


Well, whats your excuse then? :D

...um....:confused:

[belinda]

I was asked to leave a coffee shop once when I was breast-feeding my son. Apparently it was "upsetting" to the other customers. :confused:

I didn't know that a baby drinking milk could be so upsetting - or maybe it was the tim tam straw I was having at the time :p

[Zep]

Who could possibly object to a TimTam Slam??? :)

[ImpyTimpy]

Honestly, that doesn't suprise me. You've basically got a couple of people who feel "squimish" about these things and are going to be the most vocal.

As an example (not breastfeeding) my son (who's three mind you) was misbehaving in a supermarket - he wanted a chocolate, i didn't want to buy him one, so he chucked a huge tantrum. All of the sudden I had a few people (not everyone, just a minority) stop and start shaking their heads at me as if I'm some terrible parent who can't control their kid.

There's always going to be some minority of people who seem to have forgotten that they were once kids themselves and had to be breastfed too.

Originally posted by belinda
I was asked to leave a coffee shop once when I was breast-feeding my son. Apparently it was "upsetting" to the other customers. :confused:

I didn't know that a baby drinking milk could be so upsetting - or maybe it was the tim tam straw I was having at the time :p

[ZeeGerman]

It never ceases to amze me how uptight and sqare Americans are when it comes to nudity.

Zee

[Some Friggin Guy]

Very true.


But from the look of the tv shows and movies we watch, violence is just PEACHY!

[athon]

Originally posted by ZeeGerman
It never ceases to amze me how uptight and sqare Americans are when it comes to nudity.

Zee

I was enraged one night by this (I don't think I'ver ever ranted as much).

I was watching a doco on removing a breast tumour on the Discovery channel. It was an American documentary and the first part was quite fascinating, where they discussed the op' with the patient and described what would happen.

They then showed the operation - blurred out. WTF!!!

I mean, hell, I might see nipple! Thank Christ I didn't - I only saw the blood, fat tissue etc. as they were stitching it up. I might have turned into an insatiable sex-maniac. The 'Trauma' documentaries are the same - there was one guy who had his leg mangled by heavy machinery. They showed all of that in very grahpic detail. But they had removed his pants, and blurred out his penis.

Mangled limbs are obviously ok to look at, but the penis is a hideous sight to behold.

The irony! Blood, guts and extreme violence is fine. Nipples aren't. The penis is more graphic than shattered bodies.

Athon
(breathe...keep calm...think happy thoughts...nipples...)

[Questioninggeller]

Originally posted by Mycroft


Full article:

http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2003-04-17/feature2.html/1/index.html

My country is crazy.

Then I guess the led Zepplin Home Video "The Song Remains The Same," has kiddie porn on it too. That's too bad hopefully there is a judge who uses a brain, and dismisses the case.

[ZeeGerman]

Just out of respect for our somewhot more puritanical friends I changed my avatar to a more appropriate version.

Just for this day though :D

http://www.holve.de/pics/a_blur.gif

Zee

[LW]

Originally posted by SRW
I was having a garage sale one day and a neighbor came by with a baby at her tit. I had a hell of a time selling anything to her I just wanted her to go away.

If I using smileys weren't strictly against my religion, I would use here the one with the dropping jaw.

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by ZeeGerman
Just out of respect for our somewhot more puritanical friends I changed my avatar to a more appropriate version.

Just for this day though :D


Zee

LOL

[Vorticity]

How about MEN breastfeeding babies? Is that erotic?

http://www.unassistedchildbirth.com/milkmen.htm

:eek:

[Q-Source]

Originally posted by ImpyTimpy
As an example (not breastfeeding) my son (who's three mind you) was misbehaving in a supermarket - he wanted a chocolate, i didn't want to buy him one, so he chucked a huge tantrum.


Why didn't you buy him the chocolate? :mad: :)

I think this paranoia about breast feeding and pornography occurs most of the time in developed countries. People tend to be more suspicious about everything and look the dirty side of natural ways to treat children.

Unfortunately this doesn't exclude me. For example, when I went to Cuba, I was passing by a house and there was a little naked child crying next to the window (he was about 2 years old). Then a man who was walking besides me approached this child and pulled the child's penis as a way to cheer him up. It seems that the man knew the child because the people in the house didn't bother at all. I was surprised that something that could be interpreted as a child abuse in rich countries, in Cuba it was a natural and innocent action.

In cases like this, countries considered as open-minded are in reality full of nasty prejudices.

Q-S

[Thanz]

What, exactly, do they hope to accomplish by requiring photo developing clerks to report "suspicious images"? What gives some clerk the authority to decide what is suspicious and what is not? Do they really think that actual child pornographers take their film into Eckerd's for developing?

This kind of false accusation needs to be seen for what it really is - as akin to an act of violence. Ask any parent which they would rather - having their legs broken by some guy with a two by four or being accused, very publicly and quite falsely, of sexual abuse of their kids and I guarantee that they will all choose the bat.

[SRW]

Originally posted by LW


If I using smileys weren't strictly against my religion, I would use here the one with the dropping jaw.


If she had come over topless or in a nice reveling string bikini it would not have bothered me, but for some reason breast feeding makes me feel like I am intruding.

[Mike B.]

Originally posted by ZeeGerman
Just out of respect for our somewhot more puritanical friends I changed my avatar to a more appropriate version.

Just for this day though :D

http://www.holve.de/pics/a_blur.gif

Zee

:D :D :D
LOL!!!!

[Luke T.]

My wife breastfeeds our infant daugher while sitting in front of our large picture window in the living room. Sometimes she forgets the curtains are open and it is dark outside. There have been times I have leapt off the couch to close the curtains.

Maybe that's prudish of me, but I don't know the neighbors that well, and her breasts have swollen to five times their normal size and there is a time period in there where she is manipulating them prior to placing a nipple in the baby's mouth. Very appealing stuff, in my mind.

And, no, you can't have my address....

[Chaos]

Originally posted by Thanz
Do they really think that actual child pornographers take their film into Eckerd's for developing?


Real child pornographers have digital cameras, I suppose. (Not that I knew from experience, though - there was something about that on TV last week) AFAIK, digital photographs do not have to be developed, right?

[Larspeart]

Originally posted by a_unique_person
We had uproar here because a politician was asked to leave for breastfeeding her child in parliament.

Most people seemed to think she should be allowed to do it, but apparently, the problem was the rule that only elected parliamentarians and the parliament officials are allowed into the chamber.

Later on, on a popular chat show, one of the panelists breast fed her baby on TV.

http://www.bfnews.blogspot.com/

Well, I have no problem with a women breastfeeding, but she had no bsiness bringing her kid to WORK! That is where I drawn the line with her. She was making an ill-timed 'statement'. I think she either missed the point of the breastfeeding arguement, or went too far.

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Larspeart


Well, I have no problem with a women breastfeeding, but she had no bsiness bringing her kid to WORK! That is where I drawn the line with her. She was making an ill-timed 'statement'. I think she either missed the point of the breastfeeding arguement, or went too far.

If you're a woman breastfeeding, then you don't have a choice. You can express milk for a bottle, but then the baby misses out on an important experience in it's development.

[belinda]

Originally posted by Larspeart


Well, I have no problem with a women breastfeeding, but she had no bsiness bringing her kid to WORK! That is where I drawn the line with her. She was making an ill-timed 'statement'. I think she either missed the point of the breastfeeding arguement, or went too far.
I'm sorry - but you have obviously never had to breast feed a baby....they want to be fed at ALL sorts of inappropriate times....gee and that may just be in the 8 or 10 hours you are at work.

[SRW]

Originally posted by belinda

I'm sorry - but you have obviously never had to breast feed a baby....they want to be fed at ALL sorts of inappropriate times....gee and that may just be in the 8 or 10 hours you are at work.

Yes but is that really fair to everyone else in the office?

After all if you did not bring enought for everyone...

[Jessica Blue]

I'm pretty sure about one thing, breastfeeding is definitely NOT erotic for the vast majority of women doing it. The breast becomes a pratical tool, not a sex object...and for this reason many mothers become less shy about revealing their breasts. It loses much of it sexual nuance and becomes an engorged milk bottle that MUST be emptied.

[Tony]

You can thank the leftist police state mentality and policies for this *****.

[belinda]

Originally posted by SRW


Yes but is that really fair to everyone else in the office?

After all if you did not bring enought for everyone...

Aahh, reminds me of the old joke/UL about the expressed milk in the work fridge...mmmm tasty!!

:p

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Tony
You can thank the leftist police state mentality and policies for this *****. Most of the leftists I know (and I know a lot) feel like people should be able to walk around nude if they feel like it. It must be those leftists in the Moral Majority who are causing it. :rolleyes:

[Tony]

Originally posted by Tricky
Most of the leftists I know (and I know a lot) feel like people should be able to walk around nude if they feel like it.

What a coincidence, me too!!

It must be those leftists in the Moral Majority who are causing it. :rolleyes:

Im not talking about the nudity. I was referring to shanek's story, I should have clarified that, sorry for the confusion.

[Jessica Blue]

I once read of a woman who was told by police that she couldn't have her 3-year-old daughter at a pool without a top on because it was inviting pedophiles. This is just government thinking¹, folks.


But is it an actual regulation that 3 year olds must be covered, or was this just the action of misguided police looking for something to be officious about?

If it is a law that 3 year olds cant go topless, then I agree that's absurd.

[peptoabysmal]

Originally posted by Zep
Who could possibly object to a TimTam Slam??? :)

Is there anything that you folk don't have some crazy name for?

[Ove]

People allways say that things happen over here 10 years after they happen in USA. In this case they are wrong. We had that Debate in 1974 when politician Tine Schmedes breastfed her child in the Copenhagen town council and was thrown out (she was a member). We had the debate then and closed it.

Nowadays nobody would raise an eyebrow over that sight:rolleyes:

Just goes to show that a lot of americans really have a twisted wiew regarding the naked body.

[UnrepentantSinner]

I hadn't clicked on this thread because I kept hoping, "please let this occur in Alabama... please let this occur in Alabama.."

Sigh.. it was not to be.

Richardson is very weird.

[Chareen]

What's next? We won't be allowed to see our children nekkid because it will be concidered sexual assalt?

[billydkid]

Originally posted by Jessica Blue


[amazed]What kind of neurotic paranoia is this...? Next thing you know parents will have to have a registered nurse present before they bathe their children.

See Jess, you should be a Libertarian. This is what government intervention gives you. And by the way, it is not the desire of libertarians to concrete over the entire world. The biggest polutor in the world is the federal government. Government is not your friend.

[DanishDynamite]

billydkid:The biggest polutor in the world is the federal government.The biggest in the world? Links, please.

[billydkid]

Originally posted by athon


I was enraged one night by this (I don't think I'ver ever ranted as much).

I was watching a doco on removing a breast tumour on the Discovery channel. It was an American documentary and the first part was quite fascinating, where they discussed the op' with the patient and described what would happen.

They then showed the operation - blurred out. WTF!!!

I mean, hell, I might see nipple! Thank Christ I didn't - I only saw the blood, fat tissue etc. as they were stitching it up. I might have turned into an insatiable sex-maniac. The 'Trauma' documentaries are the same - there was one guy who had his leg mangled by heavy machinery. They showed all of that in very grahpic detail. But they had removed his pants, and blurred out his penis.

Mangled limbs are obviously ok to look at, but the penis is a hideous sight to behold.

The irony! Blood, guts and extreme violence is fine. Nipples aren't. The penis is more graphic than shattered bodies.

Athon
(breathe...keep calm...think happy thoughts...nipples...)

Yes, it is completely grotesque. It must be a cover for some sort of very deep neurosis or something. We Americans are a hysterical people, it seems. The puritans still have a terrible hold on us.

[Hexxenhammer]

Originally posted by billydkid
The puritans still have a terrible hold on us.

Heresy! To the gallows with you cur!

[billydkid]

Originally posted by DanishDynamite
billydkid:The biggest in the world? Links, please.

http://www.adti.net/html_files/environment/congressRecord_pryan102800.html

[a_unique_person]

Now, to be sure, one reason the federal government is the largest polluter is its sheer size. The federal government owns more vehicles, buys more products, employs more commuters, and does a lot of other things in much greater volume than any company. (That the federal government is so vast is, in itself, a comment on the state of our society; but that is a subject for separate discussion.)



He then refers to, for example, Avtex.



As Dunlop recounts, for instance, in the mid 1990s, the EPA, run by former Gore aide Carol Browner, tried to prevent the state of Virginia from making the federal government clean up one of the worst toxic waste sites in the country, Avtex fibers. The plant had been kept open thanks to Colin Powell and the Bush administration because it was producing valuable products for the federal government. That's understandable.


What was wrong was the effort by the Clinton Administration to avoid making the party responsible for the pollution, namely Uncle Sam, from paying for the cleanup. "Can you imagine," as Dunlop notes, "if the guilty party had been a major corporation?"


EPA ultimately paid a huge fine to Virginia in the Avtex case but only after a legal struggle. Today, Browner brazenly takes credit for having cleaned up the site.



However, http://www.warrencountyva.net/History.html



In 1937, construction began on the American Viscose manufacturing facility. This chemical-textile plant in Front Royal was at one time the world's largest producer of rayon. The U.S. Government operated the plant during World War II, producing materials to aid the war effort. FMC, Inc. purchased the facility and operated it into the mid 1970's. An FMC management team, led by Mr. John Gregg, executed one of the first leveraged buyouts in the United States. The new company was named Avtex Fibers-Front Royal, Inc.



The US government built the plant, but FMC and then Avtex, ran it for about 80% of it's operational life. How is this an example of the US government causing pollution?

Your link is just one big misrepresentation.

[Eos of the Eons]

Babies are hungry whenever if they are breastfed. Can be in 20 minutes or 2 hours. My kids nursed every freaking 2 hours for the first few months.

So, you can't work if you want to bf...unless you can pump like I couldn't. I'd have to courier my milk out every coupla hours. My capacity wasn't the greatest, and my kids wouldn't take more than 2 ounces at time even if it was in a bottle.

In Canada we get a year's mat leave now. That sure helped me nurse my daughter for more than 3 months. I went 7 months when I didn't have to work.

Also, note that going shopping is impossible. Once baby is bundled and you're ready to go, baby is hungry again.

Thing is, if people breast fed in public all the time, noone would even notice. It would be expected even.

It was really idiotic that a family lost their kids like that. It wasn't like the mom was breasfeeding an 8 year old-which I've heard of...this nutball lady trying to prove a point breast fed her 8 year old son on TV. Ugh.
There is a point at which breast milk is really unnecessary, and that is no way to prove any point.

The world is crazy, as usual.

[Jessica Blue]

See Jess, you should be a Libertarian. This is what government intervention gives you.

Billy, I don't have too much of a problem with the social-freedoms platform of Libertarianism. It's the economic perspective I worry about. For me, economic Libertarianism veers way too close toward being the wolf of capitalist greed in the sheep of civil-rights clothing.



And by the way, it is not the desire of libertarians to concrete over the entire world.

I'm sure it's not most peoples. But when conservationists act to halt the destruction of the natural world, Libertarians seem to be among the first to vilify them.

[Dorian Gray]

Breast feeding is not erotic. People who like food and boobs go to Hooters.

[Lendri]

In the past few weeks I've taken pictures of our new born son naked, my wife and her sister breastfeeding their babies and pictures of my wife in the bath with our baby.

Sadly, I would have been a bit cautious about having some of those photographs developed. Instead we are using a digital camera.

My wife breast feeds every three hours, so there's no way she's not going to do that in public at some stage. When and how did the most natural act in the world become unacceptable to some people?

[Dorian Gray]

Um.

There are several natural acts that would be forbidden to perform in public.

I am not saying that breastfeeding should be one of them, or that it shouldn't be. I am just saying that you can't use the fact that it's a natural act to defend public breastfeeding.

[Lendri]

Dorian Gray wrote
you can't use the fact that it's a natural act to defend public breastfeeding

It's not that it's natural therefore it's OK in public. It's that for some people it has strangely become unnatural. How did that happen?

[Tmy]

Any time a boobie makes a public appearance, ITS EROTIC!!!


Anyhoo, I dont mind brestfeeding if done discreetly. But you get some freaks who enjoy whipping it out for everyone to see. I AM MOTHER, NOTICE ME!!! They ruin it for everyone.

[Eos of the Eons]

Yeah, somehow those women aren't making it seem more normal. What if every woman started to just wear shirts speciall made with openings that could be unbuttoned or unsnapped so that there isn't just a glaring bare chest out there? I've seen them on the internet, but I don't see them in stores-not even in maternity clothing sections. You'd think there would be some money to be made there..hint hint...any entropreneurs (sp?) out there?

[Flame]

I find it so sad that our children are growing up in such a neurotic and black and white world... There's just no grey anymore - seems to me we should be able to protect our families (children included) without swinging way out to the extremes and warping their minds!
Having four children (including my son who has Down's syndrome) I see examples everyday of how fear and ignorance seem to run a lot of people's lives.

I just wish I knew a way to work around the issues that plague these times so that my kids could be protected BUT also live the carefree, happy and relaxed childhood they deserve... They'll have enough time as adults to deal with fear, shame and ignorance.

[belinda]

Originally posted by Eos of the Eons
Yeah, somehow those women aren't making it seem more normal. What if every woman started to just wear shirts speciall made with openings that could be unbuttoned or unsnapped so that there isn't just a glaring bare chest out there? I've seen them on the internet, but I don't see them in stores-not even in maternity clothing sections. You'd think there would be some money to be made there..hint hint...any entropreneurs (sp?) out there?
You can get them pretty easy here....they are in all the maternity clothes section - but you don't really need them. If you choose a normal outfit with buttons ( and you have the maternity bra) you can just undo the one of two buttons and not show too much flesh to freak everyone out.

Maybe it's to do with how much breast feeding it used - here it's about 50% at 6 months. As I understand it it's really really low in the US.

A friend of mine tells me that you can buy in the US a six pack of pre-made formula bottles - the mind boggles. :p