MMS - Chlorine Dioxide Miracle Cure?

[Schrodinger]

G'day guys, I've been talking to a friend of mine who has been talking quite a lot about this MMS miracle cure Chlorine Dioxide that cures everything from advanced cancer to, apparently, bad breath.

Developed by the apparently aptly named "Jim Humble" it purports to use activated oxygen or some such with Chlorine Dioxide that causes all 'acidic' items in the body to be flushed out.

He's claiming 100% success rate in curing malaria in Africa.



I'm of the personal opinion that it's all just woo, but apparently the 'pharmaceutical industry is trying to suppress it' [Usual line, but it's starting to gain a decent amount of logical traction]. It's a complete revolution of dealing with pathogens and the germ theory, I've been reading up on skepticism of the theory but there's not much real hard evidence there and my database searches are turning up nothing.

Is there any info I can get to give to my mate so that he can get both sides of the story?

Cheers

EDIT: I attempted to add in URL's to all of the sites purporting the miracle cure but the spambot stopped me, fair enough, if you google "MMS miracle Cure" the site will be the first one to come up.

[Normal Dude]

causes all 'acidic' items in the body to be flushed out.


On face value this bit sounds like total BS.

[sophia8]

There seems to be some good debunking here (http://www.curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1160237).
But you can bet your life that anybody claiming 100% cure rate of common diseases like malaria is lying. As I keep saying, if any of these so-called suppressed "miracle" treatments worked, why would the drug companies suppress them when they could be be raking in millions from selling them?

[fls]

Do we have any examples of the pharmaceutical industry suppressing information on other products?

Linda

[Mojo]

G'day guys, I've been talking to a friend of mine who has been talking quite a lot about this MMS miracle cure Chlorine Dioxide that cures everything from advanced cancer to, apparently, bad breath.


That's a major warning sign for snake oil in your first sentence: a single treatment curing a wide variety of conditions.

[Schrodinger]

That's a major warning sign for snake oil in your first sentence: a single treatment curing a wide variety of conditions.


Yeah that was pretty much the moment when my alarm bells started ringing.

[van_dutch]

Thinking about chlorine dioxide, I believe it is quite explosive.... Wikipedia lists it as explosively decomposing into chlorine and oxygen at sufficient concentrations in air. Reading further, it is listed as an oxidant, very toxic and dangerous for the environment. It is used for bleaching paper and treating water. It doesn't sound like something that one would want to ingest. I smelt bunk to begin with, but a quick search on Wikipedia gave me the above.

[krazyKemist]

All cures pretending to "alkalinize" the body are pure crap. If you ever succeed to change your body pH, you will die from it, since body enzymes which keep you alive and functionning function optimally in a narrow pH range.

"Acids" do not cause cancer. The inside of big solid tumors happens to become acidic because of the way they have to get rid of CO2 in the absence of sufficient vascularisation. They have to use enzymes called carbonic anhydrases (CAs) which solubilize CO2 by turning it into carbonic acid, H2CO3. Many tumors even produce their own specific CAs (CA IX and CAXII) for this purpose. These CAs are protential targets for the treatment of solid tumors. But inhibiting them in no way "alkalinize" the body.

[Viper Daimao]

How is it with stains (http://cartooncaveman.blogspot.com/2008/02/boat-ride.html)?

[blutoski]

Do we have any examples of the pharmaceutical industry suppressing information on other products?

Linda

Other than filedrawering their own experimental results about products (eg Vioxx), I've never heard of a case.

But if a person buys into chlorine dioxide being an example of a suppressed treatment, then they'll buy into other examples. It's a question of what qualifies as a standard of evidence, unfortunately.

I can't envision how 'suppression' would work logistically. They certainly haven't had much impact on the vendor's ability to maintain a website. In practice, it's hard to debunk conspiracy theories, because the claimant usually has scrambled thinking and a very different threshold for credulity.