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JonathanClement
20th June 2008, 08:16 PM
Oh my GOD... This is gold... I wasn't sure if this was the right forum to post this, I HAD TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU! This is PRICELESS!

This is a PM I got on youtube. Guy PM's me and starts trying to convert me. At first, I thought I was just talking to a fundie, but after I tried asking some questions, he goes all conspiracy theory SuperNova!

Every paragraph in quotes are my own words.

"If only I had been given assurance that I, and everybody else (At least, those who went to heaven) would be guaranteed a chance to experience, that's all I would have needed to not make such a big deal about it. I mean, you have no idea what it's like to be shut out like that..."


Simply your lack of faith and not believing.
It is impossible to please
God without faith.


"I LOVED this life. I feared losing everything I loved! Camping! Watching anime! Listening to music! Playing games! Playing DDR! Just having fun with other people! The ability to enjoy sex and have children"


Those who love their life will lose it and those who hate their life will gain it.. Those who love this world hates God because God hates this world.
Satan is the ruler of this world .


"As for hell, I'm not worried about it because when you dig right down, it doesn't make sense. What's the point of eternal torture? It doesn't do any good. It would be more merciful to just keep a person there until they realized their mistakes and saw how great God really was. I mean, you could make it so that the suffering actually made them understand why what they did was wrong. If the understand, then why keep them in hell?"

The bible never states an eternal punishment.
But it states a hell. Some place you wouldn't want to be in for any amount of time. God is showing his mercy by what Jesus done on the cross, what else is there left after you reject it?


"These are just a few of the problems I had with the Christian version of heaven. You can see it was made up by men who feared the night and found the sea inconvenient. What's heaven for one person might be hell for another. And me, I would NEVER want to be something that just obsesses over one thing all the time. I want to actually be able to EXPERIENCE things and have FUN. I LOVE this world! Warts and all, and there's a lot of beauty in it that can only be seen through my eyes."


The world you love is soon to come to an end. This world is dying
and your to blind to see. Truthfully life here is but a mere vapor and your
life will come to an end here and after that you face judgment.
You don't realize how brainwashed and mind controlled you really are.
Pretty soon the revealing of who has kept you blind is going to be unvailed
and your pretty little world is going to vanish and then your left to his mercy and will be cut off. You are so mind controlled that you actually think humans are running the governments of this world. When they take off the mask and show who they really are you are going shrivel up and pee your little pants and regret you turned away from the only one who can save you. The unvailing has already begun as we move closer to the
Great alignment ,the end of this age 2012 dec 21.
Remember Jesus said he is coming at the end of this age and everything that has been prophicied has been coming to pass 100%
as we get closer to the end of piscies and into aqarius.

The revived holy roman empire is here
the increase and intensity of storms like birth pains is happening
The beast of revalation is here and has been ruling
the 4 angels in the euphraties river have been loosed and soon you are going to see 2 billion die.
Quite possibly before bush leaves office
War with Iran
The covenant with many to streingthen the stucture for peace that
last for seven years by the WEU 10 member nation
under the document 666 has been in effect since last year Jan 1 2007
Read the book of daniel ...
National id will be in effect by next year
everyone in the world is required to be chipped by 2017
mark of the beast
many will turn away from the faith
you are fufilling prophecy as we speak.
sodomy will increase
more homos are coming out of the closet
California legalizes Gay marriage
America is going to collapse
into the NAU
Get ready for the amero.
Oh there is alot more but who can convince you.
Truthfully I will obey my lord when he sais let the blind lead the blind.
Try proving the bible is a lie. you will be defeated..
You are the blinded go off and lead the other blind..

Wow... Just wow! XD

Jontg
21st June 2008, 12:17 AM
Oh, lordy lord...

fullflavormenthol
21st June 2008, 12:40 AM
Oh, lordy lord...
That is about all I can say...

Oliver
21st June 2008, 10:50 PM
Mhmm, to me it sound's like a typical Sunday at a Bible-Belt church. :p
Too bad that Jesus is dead and God didn't even notice it.

"2012 dec 21" - Wonderful, another Date for my Endoftehworld-Diary. :)

hellaeon
22nd June 2008, 06:18 PM
Kepp him on contact and be sure to wish him a merry christmas, dec 22nd, 2012

ronpaulisright
22nd June 2008, 09:54 PM
Oh, lordy lord...

I'm with him on the war with Iran and the NAU. Other than that, I disagree. Mainly because I hate religion.

Drudgewire
23rd June 2008, 01:34 PM
The beast of revalation is here and has been ruling

What was 666 then? Metal fans worldwide want to know.

zaphod2016
23rd June 2008, 04:09 PM
You would think that after all the Y2K hysteria, people would have learned their lesson about this sort of thing. Its really rather odd to me that so many people seem to look forward to the end of the world.

As I understand it, this entire 2012 meme is based on the Mayan calendar. However, everything I have read about the Mayan calendar "ending" in 2012 is nonesense; it was a perpetual calendar based, and 2012 simply marked the end of a cycle.

If I am not mistaken, in 2012 the Earth will have moved into a new zodiac sign. However, due to the scale involved, it takes thousands of years for the Earth to move across the zodiac. We've been moving into the next zodiac phase since long before I was born (1980); why would one day in one year be so significant? To me that's like driving from NY to California, and claiming that mile marker 175 on US 80 holds special significance. Why?

Anyhow, this guy is dead wrong. My dog, a 33-degree free mason, has already promised me that the end of the world will occur on May 23, 2015, when Doc Brown travels to the future, meets an aging Christopher Lloyd, and causes a universe-shattering paradox. It's a widely believed fact- and you heard it here first.

Greediguts
23rd June 2008, 11:11 PM
Reading that reminded me of a manuscript that a man handed to me years ago, when I worked at a Barnes & Noble. He said, "I thought you should have this" and passed over about 200 double-sided typed pages. I still have it. I just went and dug it out. Here's a sample (all errors included):

"The only salvation the youth of America have to escape depression is- to revolt and kill the catholic church & it's NWO govt. Like the English did in the 1500s - the Russians in 1917 - and the chinese did after they learned catholic nuns and priests >in the name of population control< murdered untold 100s of 1000s of Chinese children in catholic orphanages."

Or this:

"And after experiencing for himself the power those robed demons exercised over US govt. - almost daily - President Lincoln began debating those roman church cult-beasts - and warned his fellow Americans to beware. Which is why after 'America 1st' President Lincoln defeated the Roman church's Southren Army Civil War crusaders - the jesuits assassinated our President Lincoln."

Or this:

"You tax Americans have to understand/learn - either the Lord drowned the Egyptian army in the Red Sea, or HE didn't. But we know HE did.

Either the Lord defeated the Roman Empire's roman army church govt. in England - Russia - and Germany -- or HE didn't. History teaches - HE did.

And the Lord will destory that pope devil's jesuit/mafia Roman Empire again - and again. This time by the Russians and the hands of 1776 SPIRITED Americans - and the next time by the hands of the Chinese -- finally."

And finally how about this:

"The same Lord who empowered the Japanese to destroy the Roman catholic church controlled US Navy at Pearl harbor - to save non catholic America from the pope's jesuit SS 3rd Reich gestapo NWO govt. -- is just waiting for the day to empower the Russians to destroy the pope's jesuit CIA-FBI- NATO/Nazi 4th Reich US Navy in the Baltic to save American, again."


Wow. I forgot how crazy these pages were. Thanks for the reminder. I'm going to try and find the part where he reveals that Walter Cronkite was a papal stooge controlled by Rome.....

ronpaulisright
24th June 2008, 12:16 AM
2012 equals the end of the world as we know it.

Rika
24th June 2008, 12:29 AM
And we feel fine.

ronpaulisright
24th June 2008, 01:28 AM
We didn't start the fire.

Drudgewire
24th June 2008, 06:42 AM
2012 equals the end of the world as we know it.

The National League will implement the DH rule??! :eek:

defaultdotxbe
24th June 2008, 07:48 AM
The National League will implement the DH rule??! :eek:
nah, the AL will start making their pitchers hit

Praktik
24th June 2008, 11:30 AM
What I find interesting is the meshing of Christianity with astrology and the Aztec-predicted alignment in the "true believer's" words there...

Could it be that in allowing these impurities in his/her version of Christianity that (s)he is committing blasphemy and possibly consigning him/herself to hell?

I Ratant
24th June 2008, 12:11 PM
2012 equals the end of the world as we know it.

For those in the "3 score and 10" demographic in 2012 maybe.

TjW
26th June 2008, 09:59 PM
nah, the AL will start making their pitchers hit
Nobody can make a pitcher hit. That's why there's a DH rule.

Travis
27th June 2008, 09:44 PM
Maybe in 2012 all these people will commit mass suicide not wanting to endure looking as stupid as they would look in 2013.

Spud1k
28th June 2008, 04:20 AM
2012 is the predicted end of the world in the webcomic 'Goats' if I recall.

As for 666... did they recently decide that the earliest versions of revelations had the number 616 instead? If so, that screws up soooo much heavy metal artwork.

Travis
29th June 2008, 12:48 AM
2012 is the predicted end of the world in the webcomic 'Goats' if I recall.

As for 666... did they recently decide that the earliest versions of revelations had the number 616 instead? If so, that screws up soooo much heavy metal artwork.

Great, now the people who live on Route 616 are all gonna freak out the way people used to who lived on Route 666 did.

Sunstealer
29th June 2008, 01:10 AM
What I find interesting is the meshing of Christianity with astrology and the Aztec-predicted alignment in the "true believer's" words there...

Could it be that in allowing these impurities in his/her version of Christianity that (s)he is committing blasphemy and possibly consigning him/herself to hell?I also find it fascinating. The fact that the Aztecs and other South American cultures had absolutely no knowledge of Christianity I'm surprised that they seem to jump so heavily on this particular bandwagon. It's not just Christians either, it does seem that there are a large proportion of people who do seem to have some sort of death wish fetish with regard to the end of the world. Even when the supposed dates are surpassed it doesn't stop then from latching onto the next date. It's truly bizarre. My conclusion is that a large proportion of human beings are not too able to look at their world with much rationalisation, almost as if it's just a bit too much for them and they'd rather just imagine something else.

Spud1k
29th June 2008, 09:51 PM
As for 666... did they recently decide that the earliest versions of revelations had the number 616 instead? If so, that screws up soooo much heavy metal artwork.

Got bored and started googling. Very interesting. (http://www.americanvision.org/articlearchive/05-10-05.asp) Turns out the numerologists aren't impressed (http://www.escapeallthesethings.com/666-616-number-mark-of-the-beast.htm) though.

peteweaver
4th July 2008, 12:56 AM
Try proving the bible is a lie. you will be defeated..Well the Bible says that God destroyed Soddom and Gomorrah. Why then did God leave Soho alone ?

The Bible says that God flooded the earth to wipe out sin. Why then were the nazi's able to rampage across europe causing millions of deaths, without divine intervention against them ?

The Bible is a book which was written down by human beings. Were even ONE of those human beings to have an ulterior motive, the 'bible' becomes the bibull.

If God truly want's us to behave a certain way, whats to stop God giving us a bible in our minds, which is always there in each and every one of us, so everyone would know where they stood and the consequences (if there are any) of 'disobedience'?

Incidentally I do not believe in the NAU or Amero conspiracy theories. But they are funny :)