Would it be a sin to abort the Antichrist?

[Homeland Insurgency]

This is a question directed towards someone who is both religious and pro-life. (Is that redundant?)

What about a future abortion doctor? I read once where an abortion doctor was shot dead through a window while standing in his kitchen by a pro-lifer. I guess in the mind of the shooter he was saving future lives from being aborted. So would it have been ok to go back in time and abort that doctor so he wouldn’t have been able to perform even one abortion?

[Cainkane1]

This is a question directed towards someone who is both religious and pro-life. (Is that redundant?)

What about a future abortion doctor? I read once where an abortion doctor was shot dead through a window while standing in his kitchen by a pro-lifer. I guess in the mind of the shooter he was saving future lives from being aborted. So would it have been ok to go back in time and abort that doctor so he wouldn’t have been able to perform even one abortion?
Well if we had a time machine should Adolph Hitler be aborted? I say no. Kidnap the baby and take him to Israel and have him raised in a Kibbutz. That guy that shot the doctor should be executed.

[Nogbad]

Shirley any doctor attempting to abort the Antichrist would be pecked to death by ravens or something? :eek:

Also it would be a bit of a dilemma because without the Antichrist the millennialist types wouldn't get their Armageddon thing.

[Ocelot]

This is a question directed towards someone who is both religious and pro-life. (Is that redundant?)


No It's not redundant. I'm most definitely not superstitious and I don't subscribe to the view that life begins at conception. I see that as a continuation of life and agree that the defining threshold is viability. I find a zygote, blastocyst or early embryo to be no more "sacred" than a slime mould. However I can't help but feel empathy for a 24 week old foetus. I note that this has been heighted due to two failed pregnacies before finally becoming a proud father last year. As such if find late stage abortions for social reasons, repulsive. I have no sophisticated ethical arguments to present at this time. This is intuitional, simply a matter of consience.

I'm not anti abortion in any absolutist terms, I have no burning desire to impose my subjective morality on wider society though if wider society happened to agree with me, I would be gladdened by a reduction in the time limit and more promotion of the alternatives, not least steps to reduce unwanted preganacies in the first place.

I'm not pro-life, I even find the phrase to be a distastefull virtue word. What does it mean anyway? Do pro lifers refrain from using anti bacterials or cleaning their kitchen and bathroom? Do the subsist as fructarians ensuring that the seeds from their food are planted where they will have the best chance of maturing and thriving? No they shoot and kill doctors. Not so pro-life after all.

However taking the phrase to mean simply anti-abortion, I can easily extrapolate my own feelings on the issue to encompass such a stance without the need for religion.

As for whether aborting the anti christ would be wrong (I'm not religious so I'll refrain from the word sin) what would we actually know?

What is the pre natal test for this Anti Christ? How reliable is it? If only we had a sample of Satan's genetic code.

What harm would allowing the Anti Christ to be born actually do? Would it avert armageddon for all time or merely delay the inevitable. If so for how long. Would allowing the baby to be born guarentee the End of Days or would the Anti Christ have free will of their own? Could you bring the Anti Christ up to be good? Doesn't the tale of revelations have a happy ending with the faithfull living in paradise for all eternity? Selfishly I have to ask as a loving caring family man with good works and strong moral and ethical code, if I would be invited to share this paradise with my other charitable but non-christian friends and family or would I be undone by my devotion to empiricism?

Since I suspect that no-one can give any reliable answers to these questions then anybody who aborted their baby for the reason that they suspected it of being the antichrist would be a raving loony. My revulsion for abortion would only be increased by grounding it in such superstitious claptrap, though I do have to wonder if a baby brought up by such a loony might be better off having never been born at all.

[Soapy Sam]

What makes you think the antichrist has not been aborted?

[YoPopa]

Shirley any doctor attempting to abort the Antichrist would be pecked to death by ravens or something? :eek:

Stop calling HI Surely, and why is that no one ever worries about the Unclechrist?



What is the pre natal test for this Anti Christ? How reliable is it? If only we had a sample of Satan's genetic code.

Let's figure out what year the antichrist is to be born and abort them all that year. Let God sort em out.

Sorry, this question leaves me with nothing but dumb stuff to say, or maybe that's my coffee speaking.

[triadboy]

The easiest solution to everything would be to go back and stop the crucifiction of Jebus.

[Homeland Insurgency]

Let's figure out what year the antichrist is to be born and abort them all that year. Let God sort em out.

Didn't they try something like that with Moses?

[I Ratant]

Just what sign(s) would there from the mother that she is carrying the A-C?
If she's on meds for bi-polarity (and she most likely would be), abortions are routinely prescribed and performed in the first trimester.

[Kopji]

The basic time travel paradox is that if you went back in time to prevent something and were actually successful, there would be no reason for you to go back in time in the first place.

who thinks up these things?

[Homeland Insurgency]

The basic time travel paradox is that if you went back in time to prevent something and were actually successful, there would be no reason for you to go back in time in the first place.

who thinks up these things?

The real paradox in this thread is that if you don't believe in God this question isn't directed towards you.

[thatguywhojuggles]

Didn't they do this in a South Park episode?

[Hooloovoo]

God has a plan, and the Antichrist is a necessary part of it. Christians should be welcoming the coming of the Antichrist, since it means they'll get to beam up to heaven. They should do everything they can to make sure this guy has a proper gestation, upbringing, and good health care. So aborting the Antichrist should be a worse sin than aborting some lesser embryo, since the doctor and the mother would be seriously screwing up God's plan. But then again, if God can be thwarted by a mere abortion doctor, that's not saying much for God.

[Kopji]

The real paradox in this thread is that if you don't believe in God this question isn't directed toward you.
Hi and welcome!

The great and ponderous human cogs, gears, and levers of religion have been rationalizing, adjusting, rewriting, and reinterpreting for thousands of years. Unfortunately they have not spent nearly as much time working on their sense of humor about it. So these quirky questions can have a certain amiable lightness to them that perhaps makes us all want to join the fun.

On the other hand, if we take these silly questions too seriously, we risk making the mistake of underestimating the intelligence of those who do not share our views.

[lenny]

The basic time travel paradox is that if you went back in time to prevent something and were actually successful, there would be no reason for you to go back in time in the first place.
but it wouldn't matter as you'd already gone...

who thinks up these things?
yesterday they were here tomorrow, but i don't see them now.

[six7s]

I'm not pro-life, I even find the phrase to be a distastefull virtue word. What does it mean anyway?

I think that the following clarifies what so-called pro-lifers really are:

pro-illegal-abortion advocates

[Ysidro]

Well if we had a time machine should Adolph Hitler be aborted? I say no. Kidnap the baby and take him to Israel and have him raised in a Kibbutz. That guy that shot the doctor should be executed.

Take him to Israel? Before 1948? Or do you mean take him to the present. But in that case, there'd be no Israel because Adolph wouldn't have been around to ... ow, my head hurts.

I suppose if the branching theory of the mulitverse is correct then we might save another timeline but not our own.

Damn it, stop making my head hurt!!!

[hamelekim]

Considering they don't know they will become the anti-christ, no. Killing someone for something they will do is immoral. Before they act they are innocent. Besides, the Anti-Christ only comes into being once this person gets killed and rises from the dead. Until then they have no clue.

[six7s]

...the Anti-Christ only comes into being once this person gets killed and rises from the dead. How do you know this?

Until then they have no clue.
All the nice people in the story still get to 'live happily ever after', right?

[Marquis de Carabas]

It would be a sin, which is why my mother didn't.

[Silentknight]

You're all way off base, especially those of you who call yourselves atheists. The best thing to do would be to wait for the Antichrist to be born, and then eat the baby.

[Ron_Tomkins]

The easiest solution to everything would be to go back and stop the crucifiction of Jebus.

Who's Jebus?

Was he being crucified right next to Jesus?

[six7s]

It would be a sin, which is why my mother didn't.

So why didn't she marry your father?

[I Ratant]

You're all way off base, especially those of you who call yourselves atheists. The best thing to do would be to wait for the Antichrist to be born, and then eat the baby.
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I expect given the precedent of the loaves and fishes, there will be enough to go around.