Publications, A/V, works of Jordan Maxwell

[beeksc1]

Perspectives concerning the works of Jordan Maxwell

Jordan Maxwell's official site calls him "an ordinary man pursuing extraordinary knowledge." Swim has learned much from him concerning what he has to share on topics that cover a one world government, quasi-secret societies and fraternities, hidden symbology, and the ruling elite that clandestinely pulls the strings of global affairs

Yet Swim might have second thoughts about Jordan Maxwell; for a "researcher" who prides himself on knowledge that pertains to technical terminology and encrypted language, J Maxwell website can be found under the google search of "Jordan Maxwell - Godfather of Secret Societies"

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=MIS&q=jordan+maxwell+godfather&btnG=Search

And Jordan Maxwell has tons of photos on his site that are with notable figures who favor the institution of a supranational-governing body.
http://jordanmaxwell.com/gallery.html

Jordan Maxwell's notable works expose elitism; but other minor factors do not add up; Jordan Maxwell has much to offer; but Swim thinks that Bill Cooper is the most genuine of those people who expose the global agenda of the ruling elite

Notable publications and A/V presentations by Jordan Maxwell

Matrix of Power - book by Jordan Maxwell
http://www.amazon.com/Matrix-Power-Controlled-Powerful-Knowledge/dp/1585091200
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=GCIqdYN0GL0C&dq=matrix+of+power+maxwell&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=fYikkKUZ8Z&sig=-h1OQAq6Gu8tHmi9U67pv1j_34I&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result

Google Video - Jordan Maxwell
http://video.google.com/videosearch?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=matrix+of+power+maxwell&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv&oi=property_suggestions&resnum=0&ct=property-revision&cd=1#q=jordan%20maxwell&hl=en&sitesearch=

Matrix of Power - A/V by Jordan Maxwell
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8701863412120241475&q=matrix+of+power+maxwell&ei=RLx2SMnlKoiE4gL_4ImhCw&hl=en

Used the search engine; but am unable to locate posts that go over the works of Jordan Maxwell.

Real-deal?
or
Shill?

[~enigma~]

Perspectives concerning the works of Jordan Maxwell

Jordan Maxwell's official site calls him "an ordinary man pursuing extraordinary knowledge." Swim has learned much from him concerning what he has to share on topics that cover a one world government, quasi-secret societies and fraternities, hidden symbology, and the ruling elite that clandestinely pulls the strings of global affairs

Yet Swim might have second thoughts about Jordan Maxwell; for a "researcher" who prides himself on knowledge that pertains to technical terminology and encrypted language, J Maxwell website can be found under the google search of "Jordan Maxwell - Godfather of Secret Societies"

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=MIS&q=jordan+maxwell+godfather&btnG=Search

And Jordan Maxwell has tons of photos on his site that are with notable figures who favor the institution of a supranational-governing body.
http://jordanmaxwell.com/gallery.html

Jordan Maxwell's notable works expose elitism; but other minor factors do not add up; Jordan Maxwell has much to offer; but Swim thinks that Bill Cooper is the most genuine of those people who expose the global agenda of the ruling elite

Notable publications and A/V presentations by Jordan Maxwell

Matrix of Power - book by Jordan Maxwell
http://www.amazon.com/Matrix-Power-Controlled-Powerful-Knowledge/dp/1585091200
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=GCIqdYN0GL0C&dq=matrix+of+power+maxwell&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=fYikkKUZ8Z&sig=-h1OQAq6Gu8tHmi9U67pv1j_34I&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result

Google Video - Jordan Maxwell
http://video.google.com/videosearch?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=matrix+of+power+maxwell&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv&oi=property_suggestions&resnum=0&ct=property-revision&cd=1#q=jordan%20maxwell&hl=en&sitesearch=

Matrix of Power - A/V by Jordan Maxwell
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8701863412120241475&q=matrix+of+power+maxwell&ei=RLx2SMnlKoiE4gL_4ImhCw&hl=en

Used the search engine; but am unable to locate posts that go over the works of Jordan Maxwell.

Real-deal?
or
Shill?
Did you mean to post this in another section? How is this woo a conspiracy?

[beeksc1]

^ Swim is unsure as to whether or not you are familiar with the word of Jordan Maxwell; but this seems to be the appropriate section for the post. Jordan Maxwell seemingly has much to offer. Please refrain from tendencies that aim toward distraction. This thread concerns the word that Jordan Maxwell has to share.

(If you were posting a topics that pertains to Jordan Maxwell, what subforum would you have posted it in?)

Swim thought that constructive input is an sought-after, especially in conversations and forums, as such. You have the freedom to call Jordan Maxwell what you will; yet, perhaps it is more efficacious to include input that revolves around this topic.

Anyway, certain persons who expose government coverups (such as Alex Jones) do go a little overboard at times. Even though 95% of the information that Jones has to share is basically legit, Swim feels that the sources that come through Jordan Maxwell are more accurate.

Again, the perspective that is shared by William "Bill" Cooper seemingly has the most to offer

[~enigma~]

^ Swim is unsure as to whether or not you are familiar with the word of Jordan Maxwell; but this seems to be the appropriate section for the post. Jordan Maxwell seemingly has much to offer. Please refrain from tendencies that aim toward distraction. This thread concerns the word that Jordan Maxwell has to share.

(If you were posting a topics that pertains to Jordan Maxwell, what subforum would you have posted it in?)

Swim thought that constructive input is an sought-after, especially in conversations and forums, as such. You have the freedom to call Jordan Maxwell what you will; yet, perhaps it is more efficacious to include input that revolves around this topic.

Anyway, certain persons who expose government coverups (such as Alex Jones) do go a little overboard at times. Even though 95% of the information that Jones has to share is basically legit, Swim feels that the sources that come through Jordan Maxwell are more accurate.

Again, the perspective that is shared by William "Bill" Cooper seemingly has the most to offerThe question you asked was is he a shill or is he the real deal. Not trying to distract anything. I just don't see how that question has anything to do with a conspiracy. Maybe you meant a different question?

ETA - Is english your first language? It seems that I may not understand you because of that.

[beeksc1]

The question you asked was is he a shill or is he the real deal. Not trying to distract anything. I just don't see how that question has anything to do with a conspiracy. Maybe you meant a different question?
ETA - Is english your first language? It seems that I may not understand you because of that.

Allright; thank ya. Yes, english is my first language.

As there is hardly any posts that concern Jordan Maxwell; this thread is livicated to the perspective that Maxwell has to share. Perhaps, Swim (someone who I met) should have concluded the original post with something else; concerning the works of Maxwell, Swim is interested in other peoples perspectives.

Swim has learned much from his word, which has do with a one world government, quasi-secret societies and fraternities, hidden symbology, and the ruling elite that clandestinely pulls the strings of global affairs; just curious to see what other people think about the word that Jordan Maxwell has to share

[~enigma~]

Again I will ask you what exactly the question is he a shill or the real deal has to do with a conspiracy?

[beeksc1]

^ Everything.

If Jordan Maxwell is a shill, it is an odd way to propagate the global agenda of the elite. If Jordan Maxwell is fo'-real, the people would most likely benefit from the word he has to share.

Jordan Maxwell, "Godfather of Secret Societies" and New World Order Shill
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9207351371478132272&q=Jordan+Maxwell+godfather&ei=N8t2SNO_Nqem4QKQm6CZCw

Brotha, if you are not attempting to distract, comment on the word of Jordan Maxwell. Please refrain from trivial nitpickin'

(2nd definition of nit-picking:
"By extension, any process of finding or pointing out tiny details or errors, particularly if the pointed-out details seem insignificant or irrelevant to all but the finder."
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nit-picking)

Sorry I ended the original post with that.

If you are unable to actualize what this forum is getting at and having nothing constructive to add; please just dance instead. It is healthy!

Anyway, Jordan Maxwell

Concerning the implementation of an all powerful oligarchy, has Maxwell influenced your perspective? What do you think about what he has to say?

It seems Jordan Maxwell has much to offer

[~enigma~]

If Jordan Maxwell is a shill, it is an odd way to propagate the global agenda of the elite. If Jordan Maxwell is fo'-real, the people would most likely benefit from the word he has to share.
That is rewording your question. Still your question has nothing to do with a conspiracy. Your question however is a logical fallacy due to your predetermined conclusion within the question.

[beeksc1]

^ Whatever, you individual (who is most likely white)

That is rewording your question. Still your question has nothing to do with a conspiracy.

So what; Swim was trying to satisfy your nit-picking. And by the way, you are always right (no matter what) on whatever you post; does that make your ego "happy" or feel better?

Paul Mooney
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Mooney_%28comedian%29
says that the white man is the boldest creature on this planet

(Do you think people like yourself are the reason for this proclamation?)

"experienced" posters on this particular forum, who take the approach that is similar to yours, seem to be attempting to "prove" something. (A side note - do you create art? do you play music? do you dance? These points might relate to the frustration that you are noting on this thread.)

Swim values critical thinking; but the posts I am attending are just plain annoying.

Anyway, Jordan Maxwell; a one world government; elitism...

This thread is about the word of Jordan Maxwell

[~enigma~]

says that the white man is the boldest creature on this planet

Why do you bring race into this? Are you a racist?

ETA - Now I know where this should go. You say This thread is about the word of Jordan Maxwell so this belongs in religion and philosophy.

[beeksc1]

Why do you bring race into this?

Because it is always relevant. Because it most prolly relates to your perspective. If an observer is unable to see the irony... well...

And by the way Swim loves all the people of the world: the people who acknowledge the truth, the people who distract from the truth, and the people who just exist

Again, Paul Mooney says the white man is the boldest creature on this planet

And Swim knows that all people essentially have the same potentialities. Again, your inquiry that regards racism might expose your tendency toward an biased cognition. Projection?

Whoever you think you are, please realize that all life is one. Even though egotistic tendencies may urge you toward a perspective that says we all are separate, you might want to think again.

If you wish, this thread can keep exposing the narrow frame of thought that is posted by the members who aim to distract from the discussion at hand. Or the threat can discuss the ideas of Jordan Maxwell


You say This thread is about the word of Jordan Maxwell so this belongs in religion and philosophy.

Sure enough. Keen input; thank you seasoned poster.

Anyway, thread deals with the ideas that are covered by Jordan Maxwell

Swim first learned of the significance of Prometheus through the word of Maxwell. Prometheus "is a Titan known for his wily intelligence, who stole fire from Zeus and gave it to mortals for their use." ~Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus

[chillzero]

Moving thread to R&P.
Please do not derail threads with arguments about the location. Report it and leave it for the mods to sort out.
Do not get personal in discussions - speculation about a person's race and how that affects their perspective is personalising the discussion and further derailing the thread. Posts from this point on should discuss the topic only, please, or they will be removed.

[Liszt]

Perspectives concerning the works of Jordan Maxwell

Jordan Maxwell's official site calls him "an ordinary man pursuing extraordinary knowledge." Swim has learned much from him concerning what he has to share on topics that cover a one world government, quasi-secret societies and fraternities, hidden symbology, and the ruling elite that clandestinely pulls the strings of global affairs



Hi there.

Who is "Swim"?

[Phaedrus74]

Hi there.

Who is "Swim"?

I get the impression that (s)he is referring to her/himself in the 3rd person:
Swim = beeksc1

Retracted, checked out other posts by beeksc1..

Sorry to bud in...:boxedin:

[beeksc1]

Swim is Someone who I met; just a convention, picked up from another forum

ideas of Jordan Maxwell

Jordan Maxwell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Maxwell

[Nick227]

Perspectives concerning the works of Jordan Maxwell

Jordan Maxwell's official site calls him "an ordinary man pursuing extraordinary knowledge." Swim has learned much from him concerning what he has to share on topics that cover a one world government, quasi-secret societies and fraternities, hidden symbology, and the ruling elite that clandestinely pulls the strings of global affairs

Yet Swim might have second thoughts about Jordan Maxwell; for a "researcher" who prides himself on knowledge that pertains to technical terminology and encrypted language, J Maxwell website can be found under the google search of "Jordan Maxwell - Godfather of Secret Societies"

Well, the thing about esoterica is...those who know tend to keep quiet, and those who don't tend to speak up.

Nick

[GreNME]

Well, the thing about esoterica is...those who know tend to keep quiet, and those who don't tend to speak up.

Nick

I'll take Nick's statement one further: people who seem to know something about the subject matter esoteric writers bring up tend to not focus on it as overly important, while those who know enough to be dangerous (or damaging) but not much more tend to regularly run off at the mouth.

[thesyntaxera]

Real-deal? or Shill?

How about..."Guy who writes books that specifically cater to those with a predisposition for a conspiratorial mindset despite the fact that the information does not even come close to resembling reality in any way, shape, or form."

[beeksc1]

people who seem to know something about the subject matter esoteric writers bring up tend to not focus on it as overly important, while those who know enough to be dangerous (or damaging) but not much more tend to regularly run off at the mouth.


Do not quite get your message :o


How about..."Guy who writes books that specifically cater to those with a predisposition for a conspiratorial mindset despite the fact that the information does not even come close to resembling reality in any way, shape, or form."


Ok, sure.

As Bush Sn announced,

We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order, a world where the rule of law, not the rule of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the U.N.'s founders.

CNN/Dobbs: Reports on New World Order
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6763360812295084022&q=dobbs+new+world+order&ei=pcp-SJOiFZTk4ALI_4GlCw

How do you attempt to explain this? Or how do you "write this off"?

Swim is not saying that all of the ideas that Jordan Maxwell has to offer are 100% accurate or particularly coherent; but, 95% of what Jordan Maxwell reports on is seemingly legitimate. Swim thinks that Maxwell gets people to think about what is going on, on the global scale. And is not that a positive thing?

It seems like down-right carelessness to entirely dismiss what Jordan Maxwell has to share.

This thread is discussing the legitimacy of Maxwell; What do people think about the books and A/V presentations that Jordan Maxwell has to share? Nevertheless, if you are going to post condescending messages; please, forgo them. Please, provide accurate info, etc. that shows evidence/indications, which concerns the authenticity of ideas that Maxwell elaborates upon.

The best perspective appears to be formulated by taking in all the available info, and discarding the junk; then, putting together a view that is intelligible, well-informed, and wise.

Debunking Jordan Maxwell The Movie (2nd edition)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1155202722043130535&q=Jordanus+Maximus&ei=0tR-SNfkDJjQ4gLZ1rWSCw

[GreNME]

I'll take Nick's statement one further: people who seem to know something about the subject matter esoteric writers bring up tend to not focus on it as overly important, while those who know enough to be dangerous (or damaging) but not much more tend to regularly run off at the mouth.

Do not quite get your message :o

Maxwell is one of those such people: knows enough to run his mouth about stuff, doesn't know enough to be anything but dangerous. He tends to take his unfounded ideas a bit far. At least once it resulted in him being arrested for fraud. I'd say defrauding people qualifies as being dangerous to the public at large.


Ok, sure.

As Bush Sn announced,


CNN/Dobbs: Reports on New World Order
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6763360812295084022&q=dobbs+new+world+order&ei=pcp-SJOiFZTk4ALI_4GlCw

How do you attempt to explain this? Or how do you "write this off"?

What's to explain? It's political speech for "I'm going to claim I'm introducing a paradigm shift."

Swim is not saying that all of the ideas that Jordan Maxwell has to offer are 100% accurate or particularly coherent; but, 95% of what Jordan Maxwell reports on is seemingly legitimate. Swim thinks that Maxwell gets people to think about what is going on, on the global scale. And is not that a positive thing?

No. It seems I've been quoting Carl Sagan a lot lately: "On the other hand, if you are open to the point of gullibility and have not an ounce of skeptical sense in you, then you cannot distinguish useful ideas from the worthless ones. If all ideas have equal validity then you are lost, because then, it seems to me, no ideas have any validity at all."

It seems like down-right carelessness to entirely dismiss what Jordan Maxwell has to share.

When someone continually shares only lies or falsehoods, dismissing them is not careless.

Hey beeksc1, could you ask this other person you keep mentioning to register here? I think it would be helpful for the flow of the conversation. One thing I don't like is having someone try to mediate my statements for me when it's not necessary.

[roseglass]

Just a clear point;

Pine (Maxwell) was brought to court by the FTC, I'm not sure from what I've read if he was arrested in the full extent of the word (couldn't find additional info), but the fraud part is pretty valid;

Pine was in a coalition of six defendants that had sold fake documents to the public;

http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/jordanmaxwell/jordanmaxwell.shtm

[Complexity]

Nothing in the OP makes me want learn anything about this cretin.

Waste of bits.

[beeksc1]

Concerning the legitimacy of Jordan Maxwell (Russell Pine), perspective has changed a little...

On January 28, 2004, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) issued a default judgement and order against Jordan Maxwell charging that he, along with Vic Varjabedian, aka Victor Varjabedian, aka Varouj Varjabedian, violated the FTC act, in connection with illegally and deceptively selling marketed international driving permits over the internet.

According to the Memorandum Opinion in Support of Order, under section II entitled FACTS, both Jordan Maxwell and Vic Varjabedian, from about December 1999 to January 2003 "conducted a nationwide scheme to defraud customers using an internet website and in-bound telemarketing calls. The defendants maintained this website, http://www.bbcoa.com/,[7] where they sold fake international driver's permits, bogus credit repair services, and sham debt termination programs. Varjabedian directed, controlled, and participated in the acts and practices of BBCOA."[8][9]

7: BBC America: Jordan Maxwell Biography, December 12, 2000 (archived at Internet Archive)
http://web.archive.org/web/20001208175600/www.bbcoa.com/bio.html

8: Federal Trade Commission, Plaintiff, v. Jordan Maxwell, individually and doing business as "BBCOA" aka "BBC of America" aka "Better Books and Cassettes of America"; and Vic Varjabedian aka Victor Varjabedian aka Varouj Varjabedian, individually, Defendants, Civ. No. 03 0128 NM
http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/jordanmaxwell/jordanmaxwell.shtm

9: Consumer Affairs: "International Driving Permits" A Scam, Feds Charge, January 16, 2003
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news03/drivers.html

Collected from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Maxwell


Real-deal? or Schill?
Not sure; but, Jordan Maxwell do not seem very honest though.

Just a clear point;

Pine (Maxwell) was brought to court by the FTC, I'm not sure from what I've read if he was arrested in the full extent of the word (couldn't find additional info), but the fraud part is pretty valid;

Pine was in a coalition of six defendants that had sold fake documents to the public;
http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/jordanmaxwell/jordanmaxwell.shtm

[moon1969]

Jordan Maxwell is a ufologists and a conspiracy theorists. His just another fraud like David Icke, George Adamski, Erich von Däniken, Claude Vorilhon, L. Ron Hubbard.....

[Civilized Worm]

He's not the "real deal" or a "shill", he's just another paranoid delusional with no evidence to back up his outlandish claims.

[beeksc1]

(^ Off-topic: is that Buzz Aldrin socking that one reporter guy who tries to get some astronauts to take an oath to the Bible?)

He's not the "real deal" or a "shill", he's just another paranoid delusional with no evidence to back up his outlandish claims.

To a certain extent, yes; nevertheless, Maxwell covers some stuff that is perfectly legit. Pretty sure that Maxwell goes over how communism, Marx, Engel, Moses Hess were substantially funded by the central governments of Germany and America. That is pretty relevant.

Wall Street & the Bolshevik Revolution
http://www.amazon.com/Street-Bolshevik-Revolution-Antony-Sutton/dp/089968324X

Not an advocate of Maxwell; yet, an approach that seeks to take in all of the information (and disinformation) and evaluate what is real and true seems to yield a more comprehensive picture, than as opposed to an approach that automatically writes off some stuff that is out there.

Jordan Maxwell is ... just another fraud

I can buy that; Maxwell does seem like an opportunist who is directly/indirectly aiming to make an dishonest financial gain.

[Civilized Worm]

Yes it is Buzz.

In what way was communism funded by Germany and America and where is the evidence?

[godless dave]

Who the hell is swim?

[beeksc1]

Who the hell is swim?

Someone who I met; convention that Swim picked up on another forum. :)

Civilized person, I want to let you seek out the truth fo' yo'self; yet, you might find these helpful.

Amazon link is above.
Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution (http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-bolshevik-rev.html)
There is many other indications that Communism (and especially Marx) were fraudulent.

May 1, D-Day?
Is it a coincident that the Bavarian Illuminati was founded on May 1st, 1776?


If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth program, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool power-seeking megalomaniacs… Communism, or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite.
~Gary Allen

[Civilized Worm]

Why doesn't Swim get his own account here so you don't have to speak for him?


I'm not going to argue that communism isn't an oppressive system, but all your site seems to argue is that some prominent americans supported it. So? You claimed that "communism, Marx, Engel, Moses Hess were substantially funded by the central governments of Germany and America".

[beeksc1]

Yeah, communism is fraudulent.

The Alliance of the Bankers and the Revolution (http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-bolshevik-ch11.html)

Evidence already published by George Katkov, Stefan Possony, and Michael Futrell has established that the return to Russia of Lenin and his party of exiled Bolsheviks, followed a few weeks later by a party of Mensheviks, was financed and organized by the German government.1 The necessary funds were transferred in part through the Nya Banken in Stockholm, owned by Olof Aschberg, and the dual German objectives were: (a) removal of Russia from the war, and (b) control of the postwar Russian market.2

1. Michael Futrell, Northern Underground (London: Faber and Faber, 1963); Stefan Possony, Lenin: The Compulsive Revolutionary (London: George Allen & Unwin, 1966); and George Katkov, "German Foreign Office Documents on Financial Support to the Bolsheviks in 1917," International Affairs 32 (Royal Institute of International Affairs, 1956).

2. Ibid., especially Katkov.

[Civilized Worm]

In what way does that make communism "fraudulent"?

[Sunray Breaker]

Since no one is posing questions that they want answered in this thread...I'll go ahead...

What say the skeptics of maxwell's claims about law terminology, admiralty laws, hidden meanings of words (like the birth of a child represents a ship "birthing" into the ports to make a "delivery" of cargo)

he talks about all these weird secret meanings of words. What I'm interested in is where he might have picked up on something like this, how accurate is it is, did he just make it up? etc.

Would any of you fine scholarly folks be able to point me in the right direction? Because I can't really find anything substantial on here about Jordan Maxwell. Although the fraud case was a hoot.