A magician applied for the challenge? (split from:Just Another Magic Trick?)

[Dumb All Over]

Hello tapman,

In your opening post you state another magician has challenged Mr. Randi.There is another magician out there that has offered Randi money to accept his challenge, and Randi has not.
Can you please offer more specifics about this? Who was the magician who challenged Mr. Randi? What were the terms and conditions of the challenge? When and where was this challenge offered to Mr. Randi? What was Mr. Randi's reply?

Thanks,
DAO

[chillzero]

DAO - hope you don't mind. The other thread is under moderation for off topic posts, and I felt this warranted a thread to itself.

[Dumb All Over]

DAO - hope you don't mind. The other thread is under moderation for off topic posts, and I felt this warranted a thread to itself.
Not at all, Chill. Thanks for doing this.:)

[Zax63]

I think tapman was referring to Jim Callahan's challenge. Here is a link (http://www.jimclass.com/Bid_for_$1,000,000.00.htm).

[Zax63]

You might also want to check out this thread, "Bizarre Randi discussion (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=117529)", and the discussion on The Magic Cafe that it links to in the first post.

[Kilgore Trout]

For this to be worth any amount of consideration, Jim would have needed to follow the rules of the challenge and come to an agreement on the method used, rather than demand only his "protocal." And, as I understand it, Jim has never actually applied for the challenge, but merely put up a web page.

Oh, and Jim isn't a magician. He's a "paranormalist." (No, I do not know what that means.)

[Kilgore Trout]

(double post)

[steenkh]

Is it necessary to issue a challenge to Randi to get the money? I think Randi has said that anybody who could tell the contents of the locker would get the prize money. There would be no show involved, just an exchange of letters.

It seems to me that Callahan is reckoning that the show in itself would net him more than the money that he is losing in his challenge, and it makes him look good to say that he is also risking his own money.

[applecorped]

From Callahan's site:
"I do well with puzzles of this type. That is what this is to me- just a puzzle. Controlling the nature of reality to one's own benefit or desire can be viewed as just that. It also may be viewed as paranormal ability I suppose. But my offer and intent is not to argue dictionary definitions."

Controlling the nature of reality to one's own benefit? Sounds like a CON-trolling for $$$$$$$$$$$.

[Foolmewunz]

Not the Callahan thing, again. Please?

Is there a word or punctuation mark ever written by him that wasn't covered in that torturous thread?

ETA: Summary for those who missed the thread...

Callahan's a woo.
No he isn't.
Yes he is.
Is not.
Is too.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat. (800 times)

[Jim Callahan]

Not the Callahan thing, again. Please?

Is there a word or punctuation mark ever written by him that wasn't covered in that torturous thread?

ETA: Summary for those who missed the thread...

Callahan's a woo.
No he isn't.
Yes he is.
Is not.
Is too.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat. (800 times)

Nope he is not a woo.

Now that we have that correct I feel better.

Best Wishes,

Jim

[Azrael 5]

Nope he is not a woo.

Now that we have that correct I feel better.

Best Wishes,

Jim

Have you come here to warn us all of the JREF's antics with money counterfeiting?

[Jim Callahan]

Have you come here to warn us all of the JREF's antics with money counterfeiting?

Sorry man but that has nothing to do with this topic.

Jim

[Coveredinbeeees]

Sorry man but that has nothing to do with this topic.

Jim

This thread is not moderated. Should a fruitful, but off-topic, discussion develop here I imagine it will simply be split off to its own thread in an appropriate forum.

EDIT: I see that such a thread already exists though. You can find it here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=122791).

[Jim Callahan]

Thanks for the link.

Jim

[Matty1973]

Does time travel qualify for the Million Dollar challenge?

I'm a time traveller. Here's a video I took of Jim Callahan doing his act in the year 2028.

Keep practising Jim - here is your future!

Zud8yB6I9MI

[Azrael 5]

does time travel qualify for the million dollar challenge?

I'm a time traveller. Here's a video i took of jim callahan doing his act in the year 2028.

Keep practising jim - here is your future!

zud8yb6i9mi

lmao :D

[DevilsAdvocate]

Nope he is not a woo.Not a woo. Fake woo. Shameless self-promoter.

[Jim Callahan]

Not even a fake one.
(You guys are totaly wrong.)

But this is interesting.

-Jim

[William Smith]

Not even a fake one.
(You guys are totaly wrong.)

But this is interesting.

-Jim

Theoretically, you could prove those people wrong by responding and proceeding properly here. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=124599)

Are you up to it?

[Jim Callahan]

You are incorrect.

I was making comment on what y'all think I am.

Thanks,

Jim

[remirol]

I was making comment on what y'all think I am.

Could you, instead, "make comment" here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=124599)? Everything else is just distraction and window dressing, I'm afraid.

[Skeptic Guy]

Does time travel qualify for the Million Dollar challenge?

I'm a time traveller. Here's a video I took of Jim Callahan doing his act in the year 2028.

Keep practising Jim - here is your future!

Zud8yB6I9MI

Oh, my...was that part of a comedy show?

And is that Mr. Callahan?

[William Smith]

You are incorrect.

I was making comment on what y'all think I am.

Thanks,

Jim

You are incorrect. You do not know what w'all think.

Please join the thread I opened for you and refrain from derailing others.

Thanks.

[Pogo]

You are incorrect.

I was making comment on what y'all think I am.

Thanks,

Jim

But are you up to the challenge?

Is it your idea that creating a long thread of back and forth (consisting of sensible questions from us, followed by cryptic answers from you) is a form of performance art?

If you can contact a dead man with x-ray vision, why not submit a claim? A loose protocol idea might be; five boxes containing five everyday objects (to be mutually agreed upon from a mutually agreed upon number of objects) is placed before you, you contact the dead guy, he tells you what's in each one. You then write the objects names backwards on a whiteboard, then place the whiteboard under a mirror so the backwards writing is seen correctly. With a mutually agreed upon number of spelling errors allowed (a learning disability apparently shared by you and the dead guy) and a mutually agreed upon number of correct answers, the results are seen and, if you can do as you say you can do, you're on your way to being a millionaire.

Or you can propagate a thread on a web board.

I believe your true intents and abilities will be revealed by which of these options you choose.

[Azrael 5]

But are you up to the challenge?

Is it your idea that creating a long thread of back and forth (consisting of sensible questions from us, followed by cryptic answers from you) is a form of performance art?

If you can contact a dead man with x-ray vision, why not submit a claim? A loose protocol idea might be; five boxes containing five everyday objects (to be mutually agreed upon from a mutually agreed upon number of objects) is placed before you, you contact the dead guy, he tells you what's in each one. You then write the objects names backwards on a whiteboard, then place the whiteboard under a mirror so the backwards writing is seen correctly. With a mutually agreed upon number of spelling errors allowed (a learning disability apparently shared by you and the dead guy) and a mutually agreed upon number of correct answers, the results are seen and, if you can do as you say you can do, you're on your way to being a millionaire.

Or you can propagate a thread on a web board.

I believe your true intents and abilities will be revealed by which of these options you choose.

Would the five items need to be spelled correctly? This could be a problem.

[chillzero]

You are incorrect. You do not know what w'all think.

Please join the thread I opened for you and refrain from derailing others.

Thanks.

Link here:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=124599

Everyone, please discuss the challenge specifics in that thread, and not here. Thanks.

[Azrael 5]

I'm getting moderated a lot today,purely because I dont know where I am with these threads!And what Im allowed to say! :)

[The Professor]

Jumping through the JREF hoops is not as easy as the JREF Forum members claim. That is why people question it's validity.

[Azrael 5]

Jumping through the JREF hoops is not as easy as the JREF Forum members claim. That is why people question it's validity.

What hoops would these be then Dave F Koenig? By "hoops" do you mean "rules " and by "jump" do you mean "abide by"?

Thought so.:)

[Bob Klase]

Jumping through the JREF hoops is not as easy as the JREF Forum members claim. That is why people question it's validity.

Learning algebra is not as easy as the math teachers of the world claim. That is why stupid people question the validity of algebra.

[fromdownunder]

Jumping through the JREF hoops is not as easy as the JREF Forum members claim. That is why people question it's validity.

Yes. especially when you have to do things like bump week old threads when you should be busy developing a protocol. This may be a silly question, but why are you not simply concentrating on the important things, like, uuummm, developing a protocol springs to mind?

Norm

[steenkh]

Jumping through the JREF hoops is not as easy as the JREF Forum members claim. That is why people question it's validity.
You were accepted pretty quickly as an applicant with no questioning of media presence or academic acceptance. Your problems since then have been purely of your own making, when you repeatedly ignored all help in stating your claim, and we expect you to be just as intransigent when constructing a protocol. No hoops involved.

[The Professor]

Yes. especially when you have to do things like bump week old threads when you should be busy developing a protocol. This may be a silly question, but why are you not simply concentrating on the important things, like, uuummm, developing a protocol springs to mind?

Norm

The Protocol was developed long ago! Weren't you listening?
The protocol was discussed for weeks although the BASHERS and SNARKIES were too busy doing what they do to actually READ :)

[0m3g4]

The Protocol was developed long ago! Weren't you listening?
The protocol was discussed for weeks although the BASHERS and SNARKIES were too busy doing what they do to actually READ :)
You might have something you call a "protocol" but I'm quite sure you don't have an acceptable protocol, at least not posted in this forum. You can't don't want to understand that some voices on a tape don't qualify as paranormal unless it is self-evident that they were produced by paranormal means. Please concentrate on creating a protocol which is acceptable for both you and the JREF.
I don't need to be a psychic to predict you'll never manage to do that.

[chillzero]

OK, the initial question was whether a magician had applied or not. Jim Callahan is not applying, and The Professor has. To ensure that the moderation of that protocol thread is not bypassed, and since the original question has been addressed, I am closing this thread.

Please discuss any further protocol issues in the correct thread. If there's a new magician applying, then it would be best to start a new thread specifically or him/her.