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Brainster
23rd July 2008, 05:40 PM
Jack Blood is flogging this story (http://www.wtprn.com/Last_Nail.html). He claims that a bunch of OKC fruitcakes who were investigating that bombing kept running into people who wanted to tell them about their experience with the 9-11 hijackers in Oklahoma City. The story amounts to a retelling of the Shuckums story transported from Florida:

On Friday, September 7th 2001 (evening) Atta and crew turn up again at an OKC bar. ( To be named at a later date, but known to be frequented by police and spooks ) The group returned to the same bar the next night. The five were drinking beer and hard liquor, dancing, and eventually picking a fight with two local patrons. (Again very high profile / anti fundamentalist behavior, not easy to forget)

In fact, looking at the Terror Timeline, I see that's the same date (http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a090701shuckums#a090701shuckums) as the supposed Shuckums incident. Of course, to the Troofers that probably makes the story more credible, not less. After all, the CIA uses doubles all the time, so if there are two sets of hijackers then 9-11 was an inside job!

Blood goes on to talk about credit card receipts and how the authorization codes supposedly reveal these credit cards as government-issued. Later comes the big claim though:

On Saturday - 9/15/01 (FOUR DAYS AFTER 911!) a mutual friend of Atta (who shook Atta's hand and said something very briefly in Atta's ear about an hour after Atta picks the fight with two club patron's on Friday 9/7/01) comes back to the club with yet ANOTHER alleged hijacker identified in the photo line up as being Marwan Al Shehhi. (pictured left).

Al-Shehhi supposedly got into an altercation with another patron of the bar, who claims that he would never forget the face.

Interestingly, despite all the claimed great investigation work done by the OKC truthers, Blood does append this note:

On the DEADLINE LIVE interview originally broadcast on July 19th 2008 - Chris Emery and team presented the date of the incident with Al Shehhi as Sept 21 2001. This date has been corrected after re confirming with eyewitnesses to the date mentioned in the above article to Sept. 15th 2001.

My take? First, I want to see the credit card receipts with Mohammed Atta's name on them; I suspect they won't have that and we'll be told that the real name is an alias. Second, al-Shehhi's face was all over the news within a couple of days; I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure all the pilots' photos were available quickly, unlike the muscle hijackers. This guy didn't recognize al-Shehhi as the guy he got nearly into a fight with?

Boone 870
23rd July 2008, 07:36 PM
Is Jack Blood related to Daniel Hopsicker or Alex Jones? Maybe they're all brothers that were separated at birth.

Elizabeth I
23rd July 2008, 07:37 PM
...you figure it out - I can't stand to read it:

WORLD EXCLUSIVE! THE LAST NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF THE 911 MYTH (http://www.buzzlife.com/forums)

MOHAMED ATTA IN OKLAHOMA CITY SEPTEMBER 2001

For almost a year and a half I have been in the loop on a most fantastic story involving the Herculean investigative reporting of Chris Emery, Holland Van den Nieuwenhof and crew from www.okcbombing.net

As hard as it was, I kept quiet and off the record, as the team investigated an angle of the 911 terrorist attack of 2001 which had Mohamed Atta...and five of his alleged hijackers in Oklahoma City just days before 911, drunk, boisterous and brawling? Not a Koran, or prayer rug in site.

ETA: oops, looks like Brainster beat me by a minute!

Par
23rd July 2008, 07:48 PM
I don’t understand. Is this supposed to be fiction?

Allen773
23rd July 2008, 07:49 PM
Isn't Blood the guy Tim Russert hung up on when asked about 9/11 conspiracy theories?

LashL
23rd July 2008, 08:07 PM
The link in the OP doesn't take me to the story, but here is the story at another site (http://www.wtprn.com/Last_Nail.html)


The title, "Last Nail in the Coffin" may very well turn out to be accurate - if Blood intended to refer to the inaptly named "truth" movement.

:D

Elizabeth I
23rd July 2008, 08:41 PM
The link in the OP doesn't take me to the story, but here is the story at another site (http://www.wtprn.com/Last_Nail.html)


The title, "Last Nail in the Coffin" may very well turn out to be accurate - if Blood intended to refer to the inaptly named "truth" movement.

:D

That is really weird - the link worked fine when I tried in in "preview" mode.

Oh, well, thanks, Goddess Lash.

T.A.M.
23rd July 2008, 08:42 PM
no just the ridiculous oil of a stupid idiot salesman.

TAM:)

The Director
23rd July 2008, 08:58 PM
What exactly is this supposed to prove?

The hijackers were really party boys?
The hijackers had tempers?
That being in the same zip code as the Murrah Ground Zero must mean a connection to the WTC Ground Zero?

...and they say we're the ones who cite evidence as coincidences. (Though, I'm with Brainster in questioning the legitimacy of this evidence. Now that we are seven years in, even BS has a statute of limitations)

Reality Believer
23rd July 2008, 09:38 PM
According to the FBI hijackers timeline, Atta and Alshehhi were in Florida. The other guys were elsewhere as well , page 48:

http://www.historycommons.org/sourcedocuments/2001/pdfs/fbi911timeline210-297.pdf

Brainster
23rd July 2008, 11:31 PM
The Truthers didn't take a lot of logic courses, so their basic theories usually take the form of "If X then Inside Job!" If Marwan al-Shehhi was alive and drowning his sorrows on 9-15-01, then....

Like I say, the similarity to the Shuckums incident (which I have some doubts about to begin with) should be a red flag here.

Undesired Walrus
24th July 2008, 01:14 AM
As Al-Shehhi and Atta are dead, they are quite wrong.

T.A.M.
24th July 2008, 05:04 AM
Like I say, the similarity to the Shuckums incident (which I have some doubts about to begin with) should be a red flag here.

That red flag would be hard to spot amongst the poppy field of red flags we see in every theory the idiots bring forward.

TAM:)

gumboot
24th July 2008, 05:41 AM
Second, al-Shehhi's face was all over the news within a couple of days; I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure all the pilots' photos were available quickly, unlike the muscle hijackers. This guy didn't recognize al-Shehhi as the guy he got nearly into a fight with?



The first release of positive photographs was September 27th.

CNN took the Sept 16 FBI name-only list and used this to hunt down a bunch of flight school Arabs whose photographs they plastered all over the news without confirming if they were even suspected hijackers or not - thus producing the "hijackers still alive" stories we all know so well.

ref
24th July 2008, 06:06 AM
The first release of positive photographs was September 27th.

CNN took the Sept 16 FBI name-only list and used this to hunt down a bunch of flight school Arabs whose photographs they plastered all over the news without confirming if they were even suspected hijackers or not - thus producing the "hijackers still alive" stories we all know so well.

I heard one of them alive ones lives in Morocco ;)

Travis
24th July 2008, 05:29 PM
I heard one of them alive ones lives in Morocco ;)

If only someone who had a wife from there could go find him....