A Challenge to the Truthers who support CIT

[Bobert]

Ranke and Aldo have asked for the help of the truther community in getting their smoking gun evidence to a court of law/MSM.
This thread was created SPECIFICALLY for the JREF truther posters to cite how they will specifically help get the CIT evidence to court/MSM.
Aldo and Craig have both posted numerous times over at LCF hoe they need this help.
I would imagine that to the truther who does this that there would be instand fame and recognition!
I am asking that you cite who you discussed the evidence with and what the result was.
You may have to get the transcripts of the inteviews that CIT conducted.
I am sure that if you ask them they may be able to provide those.
This is your opportunity to show the world that what occurred at the Pentagon was an inside job!
I would appreciate it if we could keep this thread on topic.
Best wishes to whatever truther member/members takes up this challenge.
i will help in anyway that I can.

[PB&J]

I will be very interested if they have more than 2 or three non-CIT members back them up (and probably only TC here on JREF).. it seems that even most of the 'truther' community shuns these guys.

If I'm wrong, this should get very interesting very fast :)

[Alt+F4]

Every newspaper in the free world accepts letters to the editor. Why don't they start there?

[~enigma~]

Every newspaper in the free world accepts letters to the editor. Why don't they start there?
Do they accept handwritten letters written in crayon?

[funk de fino]

Do they accept handwritten letters written in crayon?

That gave me a chuckle.

Why dont they get non truthers to help by giving them access to the complete and unedited material they have.

Whats to stop debunkers passing it to the relevant people if the evidence is good enough and proves an inside job? I'm sure many here would like to see someone pay if it was indeed an inside job?

I, for one, would like to see full unedited interviews and transcripts.

[robeeb]

Do they accept handwritten letters written in crayon?

I spilled my drink laughing at this!

[Grizzly Bear]

I spilled my drink laughing at this!

Colors duke! THE COLORS!!!! (http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/crayon_shot_03.jpg)

[pomeroo]

If the frauds of the CIT were serious researchers, they would invite rationalists to join them as they re-interview their cherry-picked witnesses who make mutually-exclusive claims. Gee, I wonder why it never occurs to them to do this?

[Bobert]

That gave me a chuckle.

Why dont they get non truthers to help by giving them access to the complete and unedited material they have.

Whats to stop debunkers passing it to the relevant people if the evidence is good enough and proves an inside job? I'm sure many here would like to see someone pay if it was indeed an inside job?

I, for one, would like to see full unedited interviews and transcripts.

I thought about this but Ranke distrusts JREF'ers MORE then the masterminds who committed mass murder on 9-11.

[Bobert]

BTW the evidence is sooooooooo ROCK SOLID that as of now not a word from our truther members.
It seems that there wouuld be instant fame bringing this evidence forward and having the trials commence.

[Tweeter]

It would probably be treated the same as when someone asks for impeachment hearings.

[TC329]

If the frauds of the CIT were serious researchers, they would invite rationalists to join them as they re-interview their cherry-picked witnesses who make mutually-exclusive claims. Gee, I wonder why it never occurs to them to do this?

why dont some of you duh-bunkers do it yourselves instead of expecting craig & aldo to hold your hands and walk you through it?

oh i know, research sounds like hard work. looking up people's phone numbers sure is time consuming. it would take about 30 minutes to find the necessary contact info on the net for most of the people they have interviewed.

oh thats right ron, you're too busy regurgitating "proof" of saddam's wmd's being transferred to syria based on the comment of one man with anonymous sources. nowhere near corroborated to the extent the NoC claim is.

why is saddam's wmd's in syria based off of anonymous sources more valid than the 10+ NoC witnesses who aren't giving second hand accounts from anonymous sources?

[edited for civility]

Attack the argument, not the arguer. Name calling is not attacking the argument, nor is it civil.

[pomeroo]

why dont some of you duh-bunkers do it yourselves instead of expecting craig & aldo to hold your hands and walk you through it?

oh i know, research sounds like hard work. looking up people's phone numbers sure is time consuming. it would take about 30 minutes to find the necessary contact info on the net for most of the people they have interviewed.

oh thats right ron, you're too busy regurgitating "proof" of saddam's wmd's being transferred to syria based on the comment of one man with anonymous sources. nowhere near corroborated to the extent the NoC claim is.

why is saddam's wmd's in syria based off of anonymous sources more valid than the 10+ NoC witnesses who aren't giving second hand accounts from anonymous sources?

i know. because you're a little neonazicon puppet bottom feeder with low level handlers.


Ah, your last sentence explains your problem well. You began with the words, "i know..." That's wrong. You don't know anything. You're an agenda-driven fool, remember?

As you know, I don't regard Georges Sada or the others who claim to know that Saddam's WMD were removed to Syria as the final word. You are, as usual, lying.

Tell us why the frauds refuse to ask their cherry-picked witnesses to resolve the logical problem presented by their mutually-exclusive claims. Oh, that's right: this question never gets answered.

It is pointless for me or any other rationalist to interview the witnesses unless a conspiracy liar is present. You people are, after all, the most dishonest, unscrupulous creeps on the planet. If I clear up the muddle the idiots of the CIT have purposely left behind, I will inevitably be accused of tampering with the witnesses. You clowns are far too stupid to catch anyone in your clumsy deceptions.

[e^n]

why dont some of you duh-bunkers do it yourselves instead of expecting craig & aldo to hold your hands and walk you through it?
Because the burden of proof is not upon us, you can insult us all you like but it doesn't change the fact that it is CITs responsibility to present any appropriate evidence to the authorities.

[~enigma~]

Because the burden of proof is not upon us, you can insult us all you like but it doesn't change the fact that it is CITs responsibility to present any appropriate evidence to the authorities.
last I checked withholding evidence IS a crime so I would say it is a safe bet they have exactly squat. If CIT would like to prove me wrong they can go ahead but personally I think they are a bunch of lying guanophilic subhuman pieces of trash.

[robeeb]

why dont some of you duh-bunkers do it yourselves

i know. because you're a little neonazicon puppet bottom feeder with low level handlers.

TC329,

I was reading your thread titled "Multiple Bombs in Murrah Building Prove Inside Job". Once you posed your questions, and stated your case, YOU very emphatically warned all who post a reply in your thread, to-

"Please note I will put everyone on ignore who uses ad-homs in this thread."

Those are your words TC329. Now you are on this thread making personal attacks and "ad-homs" by calling people "duh-bunkers" and "little neonazicon puppets"? You need to start practicing what you preach. Or do you think that because you "know" so much more than everyone else, that a different standard applies to you?

[bje]

why dont some of you duh-bunkers do it yourselves instead of expecting craig & aldo to hold your hands and walk you through it?

No one is going to hold your hands and do your investigation for you, TC.

oh i know, research sounds like hard work. looking up people's phone numbers sure is time consuming. it would take about 30 minutes to find the necessary contact info on the net for most of the people they have interviewed.Gosh. So after repeatedly asking CIT for 2 years for the statements of those who saw, handled, recovered, and sorted the wreckage, you crack "investigators" cannot even pick up the phone and interview any of 1,000+ key eyewitnesses?

Talk about sticking your foot in your mouth, TC329!

Now, just when are you going to start interviewing those eyewitnesses, TC?

[nicepants]

A Challenge to the Truthers who support CIT...

Do we really need a whole thread calling out both of them? ;-)

[16.5]

i know. because you're a little neonazicon puppet bottom feeder with low level handlers.

This is why I love Dom, a refreshing blast of laugh out loud paranoia first thing in the morning.

I'll have you know Dom, that my handler is mid-level, and we hold a weekly review of the CIT's "research" to ensure that it remains high level disinfo.

Now run along and go suck up to Kiltown.

[T.A.M.]

TC329 wrote:


why dont some of you duh-bunkers do it yourselves instead of expecting craig & aldo to hold your hands and walk you through it?

oh i know, research sounds like hard work. looking up people's phone numbers sure is time consuming. it would take about 30 minutes to find the necessary contact info on the net for most of the people they have interviewed.

oh thats right ron, you're too busy regurgitating "proof" of saddam's wmd's being transferred to syria based on the comment of one man with anonymous sources. nowhere near corroborated to the extent the NoC claim is.

why is saddam's wmd's in syria based off of anonymous sources more valid than the 10+ NoC witnesses who aren't giving second hand accounts from anonymous sources?

i know. because you're a little neonazicon puppet bottom feeder with low level handlers.

I have TC on ignore, but when I read this, I shook my head, giggled, and then had to make a comment.

1. Who needs to do any work but the truthers...I certainly don't need to. You only need to do work and research on the issue, if you disagree with the current accepted theory. That is not the case for most of us here.

2. I am taking you off ignore long enough to report your post, a direct violation of your agreement here at JREF. Your post clearly indicates you were addressing ron (here as pomeroo) when you referred to him as a neonazicon puppet.

TAM:)

[robeeb]

TC329 wrote:



I have TC on ignore, but when I read this, I shook my head, giggled, and then had to make a comment.

1. Who needs to do any work but the truthers...I certainly don't need to. You only need to do work and research on the issue, if you disagree with the current accepted theory. That is not the case for most of us here.

2. I am taking you off ignore long enough to report your post, a direct violation of your agreement here at JREF. Your post clearly indicates you were addressing ron (here as pomeroo) when you referred to him as a neonazicon puppet.

TAM:)

TAM,

In one of my first encounters with a truther, I asked this person to explain his theory, and show me what evidence he has to back up his claims. I was immediately, and quite rudely told to "Do the Research!". When I tried to explain to this person that HE was the "researcher", the whistle-blower with inside information that I was not privvy to, I was called a few choice words, (sheeple, shill, disinfo agent), and then banned from the website.

As far as the insults from TC, I mentioned above that TC lectures people in his threads about not using ad-hom attacks. Then, he turns around and makes an ad-hom attack. How sad.

[Bobert]

It would probably be treated the same as when someone asks for impeachment hearings.

Are you wiilling to contact the CIT and take their evidence to a court?

[Bobert]

I believe TC has me on ignore but just in case he took me off.......
Please answer this question
When will you be taking the CIT evidence to a court?
Please please refrain from your attacks on Ron within this thread.
Try to stay on topic which I think was a simple/reasonable request.

[nicepants]

I believe TC has me on ignore but just in case he took me off.......
Please answer this question
When will you be taking the CIT evidence to a court?

Ironic, isn't it, that asking this question at LCF is grounds for suspension/banning? It certainly speaks volumes to the priorities of twoofers.

[Bobert]

Yes it is laughable that when asked this they get so defensive.
THEY ARE THE ONES claiming to have smoking gun proof that 9-11 was an inside job.
If my neighbor was killed and I had evidence of who did it there would be mobs of people demanding that I get it to a court.

[pomeroo]

The psychotic coward Killclown has been posting my home address and phone number on various YouTube videos. His mindless disciple refuses to address the questions that destroy his fantasies.

The good guys won.

[RedIbis]

The psychotic coward Killclown has been posting my home address and phone number on various YouTube videos. His mindless disciple refuses to address the questions that destroy his fantasies.

The good guys won.

Can I use the phone number to give you a call and invite you for a drink the next time I'm in NYC?

[HyJinX]

Can I use the phone number to give you a call and invite you for a drink the next time I'm in NYC?


Stalker Much :p

[Bobert]

Redibis,
Are you willing to take the CIT evidence to a court?

[TC329]

Ah, your last sentence explains your problem well. You began with the words, "i know..." That's wrong. You don't know anything. You're an agenda-driven fool, remember?

As you know, I don't regard Georges Sada or the others who claim to know that Saddam's WMD were removed to Syria as the final word. You are, as usual, lying.

well then can you tell this "agenda-driven fool" : did saddam have wmd's when we invaded iraq and if so then why didn't he use them and where did they end up?


Tell us why the frauds refuse to ask their cherry-picked witnesses to resolve the logical problem presented by their mutually-exclusive claims. Oh, that's right: this question never gets answered.

they went and asked them. all the witnesses say north side and impact. you would know this had you actually watched a single presentation.

It is pointless for me or any other rationalist to interview the witnesses unless a conspiracy liar is present.

wrong. interview them and release it. "unedited" like you demand of cit and no one else.

You people are, after all, the most dishonest, unscrupulous creeps on the planet.

http://forums.randi.org/images/misc/modred.gifAttack the argument, not the arguer. Name calling is not attacking the argument, nor is it civil.Posted By:LibraryLady






that would seem appropriate right about now if this place wasn't so biased...

If I clear up the muddle the idiots of the CIT have purposely left behind, I will inevitably be accused of tampering with the witnesses. You clowns are far too stupid to catch anyone in your clumsy deceptions.

http://forums.randi.org/images/misc/modred.gifAttack the argument, not the arguer. Name calling is not attacking the argument, nor is it civil.Posted By:LibraryLady






lol

[TC329]

last I checked withholding evidence IS a crime....


so you agree with cit the arlington 911 phone calls should be released?

[TC329]

TC329,

I was reading your thread titled "Multiple Bombs in Murrah Building Prove Inside Job". Once you posed your questions, and stated your case, YOU very emphatically warned all who post a reply in your thread, to-

"Please note I will put everyone on ignore who uses ad-homs in this thread."

Those are your words TC329. Now you are on this thread making personal attacks and "ad-homs" by calling people "duh-bunkers" and "little neonazicon puppets"? You need to start practicing what you preach. Or do you think that because you "know" so much more than everyone else, that a different standard applies to you?

this thread and its author who stalks cit members started a garbage thread so garbage is what it deserves.......

[robeeb]

The psychotic coward Killclown has been posting my home address and phone number on various YouTube videos. His mindless disciple refuses to address the questions that destroy his fantasies.

The good guys won.


Pomeroo,

What the hell is wrong with these people? I know, I shouldn't be surprised, but I've had two angry ex-wives who posessed nowhere near the level of vindictive hatred these truthers show. Posting your personal info on youtube is so incredibly futile and desperate, that I believe you are right. The good guys have indeed won. And I am beginning to see the "truth movement" for what it really is. A cult.

[A W Smith]

Ron; isn't that a Youtube tos violation? wouldn't Killclown have his account deleted for that? Just like he did posing as that murdered girl? I say go for it!!

[stateofgrace]

so you agree with cit the arlington 911 phone calls should be released?

Sorry, "cit", who are these guys?

Oh let me guess, a bunch of nobodies that like to dance on graves, right?

[Bobert]

TC,
Can you please provide the name of the court which you will take the CIT evidence to?

[TC329]

Ironic, isn't it, that asking this question at LCF is grounds for suspension/banning? It certainly speaks volumes to the priorities of twoofers.


wow jason, you really are a pathological liar.

[LashL]

Can I use the phone number to give you a call and invite you for a drink the next time I'm in NYC?

Just as a matter of curiosity, would you mind if someone posted your home address and phone number online for all and sundry to read, and would you mind if one out of the many who read it then asked if they could use it to call you up and invite you out for a drink, [I omitted your name here out of courtesy and decency, by the way] ?

[AZCat]

Just as a matter of curiosity, would you mind if someone posted your home address and phone number online for all and sundry to read, and would you mind if one out of the many who read it then asked if they could use it to call you up and invite you out for a drink, [I omitted your name here out of courtesy and decency, by the way] ?

Depends. Are they buying?






Just kidding. I'd be willing to go Dutch.

[RedIbis]

Just as a matter of curiosity, would you mind if someone posted your home address and phone number online for all and sundry to read, and would you mind if one out of the many who read it then asked if they could use it to call you up and invite you out for a drink, [I omitted your name here out of courtesy and decency, by the way] ?

You are tightly wound.

And what exactly do you mean that you left out my name? Do you have access to my name? If you are so indignant about someone posting Ron's personal info, why would you claim that you refrained from posing mine out of courtesy?

No, I don't condone posting anyone's personal info. I've made friendly overtures to Ron in the past. This was an attempt, albeit unsuccessfully, to lighten the mood with a bit of levity.

[Bobert]

Redibis,
Would you be willing to bring the CIT evidence to a court of law?

[Caustic Logic]

I have considered taking CIT's evidence to a layer who has done anti-gov't suits about major crimes in the past. I was too busy to even seriously consider following thru however just to prove my point. I was also faintly afraid I'd get sued by the lawyer for even wasting his time.

Imagined dismissal:
"It's a pointless online debate! Of course it's all BS, who would be dumb enough to even doubt that? What they do have is several people, however many actually did, said the same impossible thing. Wow. Who knows why, that's a separate case. Maybe it was a prank but it can't represent anything real. Now if you'll excuse me, I have real work to do. Paraphrase me at the forums if you want, and you can get your bill at the desk."

If anyone else wants to push a trial, go for it. At least one of their witnesses has said he'd answer a subpoena and testify his same impossible story to a judge.

[DC]

i will contact The Lausanne Institute of Police Forensic Evidence and Criminology (IPSC)

they have experiance with faked BlackBoxes :)

[chillzero]

Everyone please keep this thread strictly on topic as requested in the OP. It may be set on moderated status if you can't. Keep it civil, don't personalise the posts and be polite.

[Bobert]

i will contact The Lausanne Institute of Police Forensic Evidence and Criminology (IPSC)

they have experiance with faked BlackBoxes :)
DC,
I guess getting the truth to a court of the mass murder of innocent beings is a game to you.
Dont feel bad though I posted this over at ATS as well and thus far NOT A DINGLE TAKER.
So much for the truth movement about seeking justice.

[DC]

DC,
I guess getting the truth to a court of the mass murder of innocent beings is a game to you.
Dont feel bad though I posted this over at ATS as well and thus far NOT A DINGLE TAKER.
So much for the truth movement about seeking justice.

a game? sick

i ment it, they proved that the BlackBoxes was switched from Flight 296.

[Bobert]

Ok great!
Contact the CIT get the evidence which they claim they will give you and get it before a US court!!!
Please update us on your progress.
Feel free to contact me via PM and I will do what I can to help.

[DC]

Ok great!
Contact the CIT get the evidence which they claim they will give you and get it before a US court!!!
Please update us on your progress.
Feel free to contact me via PM and I will do what I can to help.


US court? LOL sure not aslong Cheney is in office or that puppet bush.

[Bobert]

So the constant truther cry of protests all across the US is OK but not bringing evidence of mass murder to a court is not?
Geez the truth movement boggles the mind.

[DC]

So the constant truther cry of protests all across the US is OK but not bringing evidence of mass murder to a court is not?
Geez the truth movement boggles the mind.

if anyone wants to go with it to an US court, pls do it, i wonder the result.
but thats not what i gonna do :)

btw: i still not represent the TM :)

[WildCat]

US court? LOL sure not aslong Cheney is in office or that puppet bush.
So the entire federal court system is also in on the impossibly vast conspiracy?

Maybe if you just list the people who aren't in on the conspiracy it would be shorter?

[DC]

So the entire federal court system is also in on the impossibly vast conspiracy?

Maybe if you just list the people who aren't in on the conspiracy it would be shorter?

not everyone has to be in on it :)
but nice try.

[TheRedWorm]

So, if not everyone is in on it, then bringing the case to court has the potential to work, correct? If so, then proceed, if not, explain.

[DC]

why US court? thats a laughable system anyway.
good for getting some money when you burned your fingers in the hot cofee, and for rich ppl getting free after murdering ppl. well US court :) OJ loves it :)

[Dave_46]

<snip>
When will you be taking the CIT evidence to a court?
<snip>

I have been asking a similar question for months in my sig.

Dave

[robeeb]

if anyone wants to go with it to an US court, pls do it, i wonder the result.
but thats not what i gonna do :)

btw: i still not represent the TM :)

If not a U.S. Court, then who? I'm asking this as a genuine question, not as an attempt to mock you, or anyone else. Where would you propose the evidence be taken where you believe it would be examined by an unbiased judge?

[chillzero]

The focus of this thread is getting the evidence to a US court, not to discuss the various legal systems available, etc. You can take that conversation to a new thread. Please don't allow this one to be further derailed, or it will go moderated.

[robeeb]

disregard

[TheRedWorm]

So, if not everyone is in on it, then bringing the case to court has the potential to work, correct? If so, then proceed, if not, explain.

why US court? thats a laughable system anyway.
good for getting some money when you burned your fingers in the hot cofee, and for rich ppl getting free after murdering ppl. well US court :) OJ loves it :)


That really doesn't answer the questions I and others have asked. I am sure it was just an oversight.

[Bobert]

why US court? thats a laughable system anyway.
good for getting some money when you burned your fingers in the hot cofee, and for rich ppl getting free after murdering ppl. well US court :) OJ loves it :)

You are aware that OJ was judged BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?
Ordianry people found OJ not guilty.
I dont know what country you live in DC but maybe your local court system or a lawyer could direct you how to proceed.
Perhaps the US embassy?

[Bobert]

List of truthers thus far declining to get the smoking gun, rock solid EVIDENCE OF MASS MURDER before a court:
1. Tweeter
2. DC
3. TC
4. Redibis
Any other truthers want to take up the cause?

[Reheat]

List of truthers thus far declining to get the smoking gun, rock solid EVIDENCE OF MASS MURDER before a court:
1. Tweeter
2. DC
3. TC
4. Redibis
Any other truthers want to take up the cause?

Hmmmm? I wonder if all of these people could have "accessory to murder" charges brought against them for withholding this evidence? Maybe we ought to ask hxstamper the next time he shows up. He seems to be a "legal expert".

[Alt+F4]

why US court?

The event happened in the United States and the majority of victims were United States citizens....that's why.

[Alt+F4]

List of truthers thus far declining to get the smoking gun, rock solid EVIDENCE OF MASS MURDER before a court:
1. Tweeter
2. DC
3. TC
4. Redibis
Any other truthers want to take up the cause?

5. jammonius

[Bobert]

Ok after Rankes AWESOME performance today maybe we will have some truthers willing to take the evidence to a court!!!

[jhunter1163]

Hmmmm? I wonder if all of these people could have "accessory to murder" charges brought against them for withholding this evidence? Maybe we ought to ask hxstamper the next time he shows up. He seems to be a "legal expert".

A "legal expert" to join the "FDR experts" and "engineering experts" and "expert pilots" at PFT. Note the well-deserved scare quotes around "expert".

But that is an interesting legal question. If you have incontrovertible evidence of a murder, and you do nothing with it, are you an accessory after the fact?

I'm asking this as a rhetorical question only. There's nothing more controvertible (if that's a word) than PFT/CIT's "evidence".

[Drs_Res]

I would think that the court would not be very pleased you were withholding evidence and might just investigate why you would do it. I think you could possibly get hit with :
Obstruction of Justice
Aiding and abetting
Conspiracy to murder

But I could be WAY off as I am no Lawyer/Judge.

Oh LashL!

[LashL]

I would think that the court would not be very pleased you were withholding evidence and might just investigate why you would do it. I think you could possibly get hit with :
Obstruction of Justice
Aiding and abetting
Conspiracy to murder

But I could be WAY off as I am no Lawyer/Judge.

Oh LashL!


Simply saying nothing, despite having information or knowledge, would not be sufficient to make out any of those offences in Canada. Each of those offences would require the accused to actually do something in furtherance of the offence. It is not an offence here to fail to offer up unsolicited evidence of a crime just because you happen to have heard about it, or because you happen to know about it. On the other hand, if you are questioned about it and lie about it, that could potentially amount to obstruction (depending on the details).

I'm not sure if that's the same in the U.S. as far as obstruction of justice charges go.

Aiding and abetting requires some positive action in furtherance of the crime or in furtherance of covering up the crime. I am quite sure that this is also required in the U.S.

Conspiracy to commit murder requires even more, and I am quite sure that this is also the case in the U.S.

[Drs_Res]

And that is why I'm not a lawyer.

Thanks.

[Foolmewunz]

I would think that the court would not be very pleased you were withholding evidence and might just investigate why you would do it. I think you could possibly get hit with :
Obstruction of Justice
Aiding and abetting
Conspiracy to murder

But I could be WAY off as I am no Lawyer/Judge.

Oh LashL!

Well, knowing equally as little about the law, I'll just have to give my not-so-learned opinion.

I think the law is kind of particular. All of the mentioned topics would have to presume that some sort of later case is filed (and since none of them are about to do that, it's moot).

Witholding evidence.... (and obstruction of justice and aiding & abetting) needs to be related to some sort of case that's either in the courts or under investigation. Unless Judge Judy is hearing this one, I don't know of any such case existing outside of the TMs fevered imagination.

Conspiracy to murder? Maybe you meant accessory to murder? I think all the DA shows always call it "accessory after the fact". Same as all the others. Once there's some sort of case/investigation/hearing, someone could possibly be charged on various areas of various codes.

Yep! So the entire TM, once they get that one brave soul to step forward, will then find themselves being subpoenaed by this year's Rudy Giuliani to answer as to why they sat on this evidence for three years.

"But.... But.... I posted in on the internet, Your Honor!"

"Off with his head!"


ETA: While I was slowly creating the above, LashL was answering.

[TC329]

how many times have impeachment hearings against bush been blocked?

[Reheat]

how many times have impeachment hearings against bush been blocked?

Could it possibly be that there is no validity to the "politically inspired" charges? Nah, it surely wouldn't be similar to the crap perpetrated by you, CIT, and pffft in concert with the entire BM?