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Michelle Lyon
29th July 2008, 01:42 PM
Do you guys still want help? :)

phyz
29th July 2008, 06:03 PM
Randi graphic image with crossbones below: The Jolly Randi! Just a suggestion: I don't have the where-with-all to make it happen.

Michelle Lyon
31st July 2008, 03:51 PM
I'm thinking a traditional pirate's flag design except with Randi's face.

Serious? Should I do this? I can so do this. I'll draw a sketch and post it for review.

Dicon
31st July 2008, 03:59 PM
That sounds tremendously cool, but is there enough time? Everyone is heading off to Ecuador next week!

Reager
31st July 2008, 09:47 PM
That sounds tremendously cool, but is there enough time? Everyone is heading off to Ecuador next week!

The flag design is already done, I'm afraid, but thanks for the effort!

The final design is attached. There will be two duplicate flags flown on the cruise, and the JREF will be doing something special with each one. Stay tuned... :)

Wowbagger
1st August 2008, 08:57 PM
Cool! I like the nearly photo-realistic vectorized Randi.

Michelle Lyon
1st August 2008, 10:05 PM
The flag design is already done, I'm afraid, but thanks for the effort!

The final design is attached. There will be two duplicate flags flown on the cruise, and the JREF will be doing something special with each one. Stay tuned... :)

Very nice! What do the colors mean?

Skeptic Ginger
1st August 2008, 11:17 PM
The Sierra Leone flag has those colors.

:SIERRALEONE:

CFLarsen
2nd August 2008, 12:03 AM
The Sierra Leone flag has those colors.

:SIERRALEONE:

So does Lesotho, Uzbekistan and Canada/Labrador, only in different order.

And? Lots of flags are very similar.

Skeptic Ginger
2nd August 2008, 12:46 AM
For the concrete thinkers among us who can't seem to merge the words with the picture, the Sierra Leone flag has those colors, IN THAT CONFIGURATION.

BillC
2nd August 2008, 02:36 AM
This is not a big problem. Some flags are not only very similar, they are identical.

Identical: Chad and Romania
Indonesia and Poland
Colours reversed: Irish Republic and Cote d'Ivoire
Costa Rica and Thailand
Cuba and Puerto Rico
The flags of the Netherlands and Luxembourg appear the same if the colours are not quite correctly rendered, and those countries almost border each other.

There are lots more examples; I haven't even considered subnational entities.

Reager
2nd August 2008, 03:00 AM
The background field is the Galapagos Islands flag, and the two behind Randi are the Ecuadorian and US flags.

CFLarsen
2nd August 2008, 03:34 AM
For the concrete thinkers among us who can't seem to merge the words with the picture, the Sierra Leone flag has those colors, IN THAT CONFIGURATION.

So what?

What is the problem here?

ETA: Galapagos flag (http://www.galapagos-islands-tourguide.com/galapagos-island-flag.html)

Green, white, blue. I wonder why those colors were chosen....:rolleyes:

CFLarsen
2nd August 2008, 04:10 AM
Cool! I like the nearly photo-realistic vectorized Randi.

Yes, that is very nice indeed.

Any chance of obtaining a copy of the file?

Reager
2nd August 2008, 04:20 AM
Yes, that is very nice indeed.

Any chance of obtaining a copy of the file?

Which file...the flag or the Randi image?

CFLarsen
2nd August 2008, 04:37 AM
Which file...the flag or the Randi image?

The Randi image.

I can extract the Randi image from the flag image, too.

Reager
2nd August 2008, 08:25 AM
The Randi image.

I can extract the Randi image from the flag image, too.

I can't send the flag design to outside parties, but I can PM you the Randi image (or if you want it sent to an email let me know).

kittynh
2nd August 2008, 09:13 AM
good job on the flag reager!

A lovely design.

Wowbagger
2nd August 2008, 01:15 PM
The Randi image.

I can extract the Randi image from the flag image, too.I suspect (though, I could be wrong) that the original file would be in a vector format, such as Adobe Illustrator, so you'll always get sharply defined lines at any scale.

If you pull the image from the flag on the Internet, you'll be stuck with a raster rendering, which will look jagged or blurry at larger scales, and would lose details at smaller scales.

Of course, you could use a tracing program to re-vectorize the rasterized vector image, (taken of the original photo bitmap). But, it might be simpler just to accept the original file.

Perhaps I've been working in the digital asset industry for too long.

Reager
2nd August 2008, 01:20 PM
I suspect (though, I could be wrong) that the original file would be in a vector format, such as Adobe Illustrator, so you'll always get sharply defined lines at any scale.

If you pull the image from the flag on the Internet, you'll be stuck with a raster rendering, which will look jagged or blurry at larger scales, and would lose details at smaller scales.

Of course, you could use a tracing program to re-vectorize the rasterized vector image, (taken of the original photo bitmap). But, it might be simpler just to accept the original file.

Perhaps I've been working in the digital asset industry for too long.

I assumed he was referring to a vector image.

CFLarsen
2nd August 2008, 01:30 PM
I suspect (though, I could be wrong) that the original file would be in a vector format, such as Adobe Illustrator, so you'll always get sharply defined lines at any scale.

O RLY? You just wait... :)

I assumed he was referring to a vector image.

But of course.

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Skeptic Ginger
2nd August 2008, 01:45 PM
So what?You tell me, you are the one that replied to my post with irrelevant information.

ETA: Galapagos flag

Green, white, blue. I wonder why those colors were chosen....:rolleyes:And how obvious you are acting like you knew all along it was the Galapagos flag when you only found out as I did when Reager posted it. :rolleyes:

Skeptic Ginger
2nd August 2008, 01:46 PM
The background field is the Galapagos Islands flag, and the two behind Randi are the Ecuadorian and US flags.Ah, didn't think to look for a Galapagos flag, just the Ecuadorian one.

CFLarsen
2nd August 2008, 01:51 PM
You tell me, you are the one that replied to my post with irrelevant information.

It was very relevant. Here's some more:

The Galapagos flag was probably adopted in 1851. (http://flagspot.net/flags/ec-w.html)

The flag of Sierra Leone was adopted in 1961. (http://flagspot.net/flags/sl.html)

Gallery of flags by similarity, blue, green, white (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallery_of_flags_by_similarity#Blue.2C_green.2C_an d_white)

And, the sky is not falling.

CFLarsen
2nd August 2008, 01:59 PM
And how obvious you are acting like you knew all along it was the Galapagos flag when you only found out as I did when Reager posted it. :rolleyes:

No, I specifically added the "ETA".

Did you really not know that it isn't just countries that have flags?

Skeptic Ginger
2nd August 2008, 05:18 PM
Classic error in logical reasoning:

Fallacies of Deduction (or Inference) (http://www.pittstate.edu/wac/logic.html)1. Non sequitur -- "It does not follow" -- an argument in which the conclusion is not a necessary consequence of the premises.

Skeptigirl: "didn't think to look for a Galapagos flag"

Claus: "Did you really not know that it isn't just countries that have flags"


Now if you could only learn to recognize your frequently faulty logical reasoning before you posted non-sequiturs, you would be making progress.

CFLarsen
2nd August 2008, 11:20 PM
Classic error in logical reasoning:

Fallacies of Deduction (or Inference) (http://www.pittstate.edu/wac/logic.html)

Skeptigirl: "didn't think to look for a Galapagos flag"

Claus: "Did you really not know that it isn't just countries that have flags"


Now if you could only learn to recognize your frequently faulty logical reasoning before you posted non-sequiturs, you would be making progress.

Do you still think it is a problem that two flags are the same?

Skeptic Ginger
3rd August 2008, 01:51 AM
Do you still think it is a problem that two flags are the same?And another non sequitur spills forth from your brain. Do you see the word "problem" anywhere in the post where I simply mentioned the flag of Sierra Leone was the same, sans the Randi symbol in the middle?

Skeptic Ginger
3rd August 2008, 01:55 AM
Maybe we could dispense with this meaningless discussion and get back to the OP.

I am curious what is meant by, "the JREF will be doing something special with each one". And Reager, are you coming on the cruise? Should we add you to the rolls?

CFLarsen
3rd August 2008, 02:14 AM
And another non sequitur spills forth from your brain. Do you see the word "problem" anywhere in the post where I simply mentioned the flag of Sierra Leone was the same, sans the Randi symbol in the middle?

I just thought that when you were SHOUTING:

For the concrete thinkers among us who can't seem to merge the words with the picture, the Sierra Leone flag has those colors, IN THAT CONFIGURATION.

you saw it as a problem.

Maybe we could dispense with this meaningless discussion and get back to the OP.

If you think it is meaningless, why did you bring it up?

Sheeesh......a storm in a teacup.... :rolleyes:

I am curious what is meant by, "the JREF will be doing something special with each one".

That sounds like a surprise.

Reager
3rd August 2008, 10:40 AM
Maybe we could dispense with this meaningless discussion and get back to the OP.

I am curious what is meant by, "the JREF will be doing something special with each one". And Reager, are you coming on the cruise? Should we add you to the rolls?

Unfortunately, no...I won't be going (have a wedding to pay for).

As for the "something special," I can't divulge that. Randi may mention it on this week's Swift. If not, you guys on the cruise will know well before the rest of us (well...'cept me, I suppose). :)

phyz
3rd August 2008, 02:15 PM
Very nice! What do the colors mean?

The colors are green, white and blue. The green represents the fertile highlands found on a few of the higher islands, where the southeastern trade winds push the clouds against the mountainsides, forcing them up, causing them to cool so that they lose much of their moisture in the form of a constant drizzle, in the second half of the year, making agriculture possible.

The white represents the loftiness of our aspirations. It also represents the emptiness of the semi-arid lowlands which comprise most of the Galápagos surface. This latter is misleading though, considering the abundant xerophytic vegetation that is found in most parts of the drier regions, which turns green during the warm season rains. There is also much animal life in those parts.

The blue stands for the ocean where the islands are scattered and the rich marine life there, which has made possible a fishing industry.

From http://www.galapagos.to/TEXTS/LUNDH-5.HTM

Dicon
3rd August 2008, 07:31 PM
... and the black edging around the circle represents Randi's cold, dark shell of a soul, withered and barren from decades of disbelief and walking -- nay, running -- away from the searing light of truth and anecdotal testimony.