The 2008 Awful Campaign Ads Thread

[chipmunk stew]

We've already seen some real stinkers. The Hope/Herpes ad being the latest.

But I think this one is by far the worst I've seen yet. It's a RNC ad called Obama TV Ad in Berlin (http://blip.tv/play/2izFizSKlCE), in which the RNC tries parody and succeeds only in being the joke:
What Might An Obama TV Ad In Berlin Look Like? The Following Parody Is Our Best Guess.Utterly brilliant in its awfulness! Guaranteed to backfire!

Bonus points for the Hasselhoff reference!

Can you top it?

[Puppycow]

I liked the fashionable young blond girl saying she hoped Obama would make Americans less superficial. Tee hee hee.

I don't know if it's a terrible ad. It's funny, and features lots of clueless young Germans.

However, finding and cherry-picking stupid people among the supporters of a certain candidate is not a substantive critique of the candidate himself.

[Undesired Walrus]

Remarkable, the RNC shows exactly what Obama wishes to get away from, by reducing the status of Europeans. McCain's feet must be soaking with bullet holes.

McCain has gone negative awfully early on in the game. Is this typical, or signs of desperation?

[mrbaracuda]

Oh, that was funny. Well at least the end. When the Marxist ****tard appeared I died a little on the inside.

[Upchurch]

As long as we're just talking "ads" and not "TV ads" there is this attempt at satire at Obama's phenomenal success with the social networking crowd:
http://www.barackbook.com/

The problem? They tied it into Facebook and allowed comments to be posted on the site. Remember that huge fan base Obama has in the social networking crowd? Well, they commented.

As Ben Smith (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0708/BarackBook_diminished.html) mentioned in his blog:
After Obama supporters swarmed BarackBook with a series of not-so-friendly discussion threads, the GOP seems to have disabled the discussion feature and deleted the mockery.

{snip}

Damn kids...

From Christopher Orr (http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/07/29/mccain-vs-the-internets.aspx):
The only problem is, the thing actually works. So, while the campaign-produced content tweaks Obama--e.g., "Barack Obama is now friends with Antoin 'Tony' Rezko"--the user-produced topics on the functional discussion board are, for the moment at least, less than amused: "This site is lame"; "Leaders lead, this just sucks"; "What a terrible attempt at political discourse"; "They can't do a McCainbook -- he'd forget his password."

That's what happens when you make the Google angry.

Lessons Learned: Don't walk into the lions' den to mock how lions like to eat people.

[Brainster]

Not an ad yet, but the RNC could certainly use some of the clips from this song by the aptly named Ludacris (some objectionable lyrics appear to have been "hushed"):

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[Upchurch]

http://www.barackbook.com/
More:
RNC Accidentally Mocks Messianic Lutherans (http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/rnc_accidentally_mocks_messian.php)
SPRINGFIELD, MO -- The RNC has modified a page from their "Barack Book" mock social networking site because the church they associated Obama with -- the Messiah Lutheran Church -- turned out to be a real denomination affiliated with the Missouri Synod.

{snip}

This is a small point and a small mistake, but it's something that will make some McCain allies cringe. Here in Missouri, the political climate is poor for Republicans and McCain can't afford to alienate any evangelical group. His campaign can't afford the perception that they use evangelicals to mock Obama.

[dudalb]

I see that in November we will be replacing GOP arrogance with Democratic Arrogance.

[jj]

Don't knock negative campaigning, it worked when the draft dodger used it on the war hero.

[chipmunk stew]

Not an ad yet, but the RNC could certainly use some of the clips from this song by the aptly named Ludacris (some objectionable lyrics appear to have been "hushed"):

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Nice job scaring the white folks, Luda. :nope:

[Tsukasa Buddha]

I think McCain's ad calling Obama "Dr. No" on energy policy is dumb. I mean, basically he is just saying his opponent disagrees with his policies, which is hardly a shocker.

And then there was that Obama one that got mocked on the Daily Show for just being a bunch of pro-American buzzwords lumped together.

[chipmunk stew]

I liked the fashionable young blond girl saying she hoped Obama would make Americans less superficial. Tee hee hee.

I don't know if it's a terrible ad. It's funny, and features lots of clueless young Germans.

Some of them are clearly clueless (Marx Man and Guevara Guy, for example) but I have to wonder what an American would sound like, even one who has a decent grasp of the issues, trying to speak to a reporter using the German they learned in high school.

[Peephole]

McCain's latest:
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"Vote for me, because my opponent is well-liked abroad."

Seriously, somebody urgently needs to get fired in the McCain campaign.

[chipmunk stew]

McCain's latest:
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"Vote for me, because my opponent is well-liked abroad."

Seriously, somebody urgently needs to get fired in the McCain campaign.
A vote for Obama is a vote for Paris Hilton?

Call Stephen Colbert, we need a new name for McCain's campaign bus: The Straightiness Talk Express

[l0k0]

Peephole, that was hilarious at the end how it transitioned to the flute music when the McCain logo showed up. This one isn't from the Obama campaign, but it is one of the worst I've seen.
Move On Debacle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq30lapbC9c)

[Upchurch]

Speaking of MoveOn.org, here's a winner:
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Brought to you by Brainster (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=119682) brand threads

[chipmunk stew]

This one is a little off-topic, because I think it's very well done. (Note to critics: this opinion refers to the ad's effectiveness, not its accuracy)

The RNC should take some notes. This is how you do a humorous attack ad:
"The Commander-in-Chief Test"
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[Peephole]

A vote for Obama is a vote for Paris Hilton
Well, it certainly isn't a vote for Britney Spears:

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This is what you open yourself up to when your ads are this mind-blowingly stupid.

[chipmunk stew]

Well, it certainly isn't a vote for Britney Spears:

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This is what you open yourself up to when your ads are this mind-blowingly stupid.
This gives Obama a great opening. During a debate, if McCain delivers a low blow, Obama can echo Reagan's "There he goes again" with "Oops, he did it again."

[Puppycow]

How about the ad midway through the following clip.

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[Puppycow]

Speaking of MoveOn.org, here's a winner:
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Brought to you by Brainster (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=119682) brand threads

Ugh. Is there a smiley for bazooka barfing? Glad this isn't an official Obama campaign ad.

[Puppycow]

McCain's latest:
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"Vote for me, because my opponent is well-liked abroad."

Seriously, somebody urgently needs to get fired in the McCain campaign.

A consortium of Ohio newspapers (http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/07/celeb_ad_watch.html) rates this ad a zero for accuracy on a scale of 0 to 10.

The McCain ad's claim that Obama says "he'll raise taxes on electricity" is based on an interview Obama gave to a San Antonio newspaper in February in which he said "what we ought to tax is a dirty energy like coal, and, to a lesser extent, natural gas."

According to the Obama campaign, what Obama was referring to in the interview was his proposal for a cap-and-trade mechanism that would set a limit on greenhouse gas emissions, allowing entities to buy and sell rights to emit. If that is the case, McCain is criticizing Obama for a proposal that he, too, supports.
So McCain would also "raise taxes on electricity."

[chipmunk stew]

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid271557392/bctid1701226987

:D


edit:
The is the original Britney fan video:
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[Suddenly]

Peephole, that was hilarious at the end how it transitioned to the flute music when the McCain logo showed up. This one isn't from the Obama campaign, but it is one of the worst I've seen.
Move On Debacle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq30lapbC9c)

Been done. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkWAhuXtalw)

[ProbeX]

Well, here is a funny video that advertises just how unelectable McCain is:

When? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eejYoz3Nl0) (Youtube)

[novice skeptic]

I liked the fashionable young blond girl saying she hoped Obama would make Americans less superficial. Tee hee hee.

I don't know if it's a terrible ad. It's funny, and features lots of clueless young Germans.

However, finding and cherry-picking stupid people among the supporters of a certain candidate is not a substantive critique of the candidate himself.

I pretty much agree. I think it was pretty funny and a good send up, but not effective or persuasive as a campaign tool. Definitely not the worst political ad I've seen though.

[Alferd_Packer]

There have been a few who have suggested that the juxtaposition of Obama with Spears and Hilton is a subtle racist attack (i.e. "Where da white women at")

[Tsukasa Buddha]

There have been a few who have suggested that the juxtaposition of Obama with Spears and Hilton is a subtle racist attack (i.e. "Where da white women at")

They are called "morons".

[Alferd_Packer]

They are called "morons".

But the problem is, the morons who see that ad and have a negative reaction to the juxtaposition of a black man and two blond white women have votes and their votes count, just like yours and mine.

[Tsukasa Buddha]

But the problem is, the morons who see that ad and have a negative reaction to the juxtaposition of a black man and two blond white women have votes and their votes count, just like yours and mine.

Except those people on exist in the minds of morons who think that there was anything racial about that advertisement.

Why they chose Hilton and Spears was because they are famous for being famous, and nobody thinks they really deserve the attention. Which they are trying to compare with Obama, who allegedly lacks substance and is all glamour.

[Alferd_Packer]

Except those people on[ly] exist in the minds of morons who think that there was anything racial about that advertisement.

You must live a very sheltered life.

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[Alferd_Packer]

More historical precedent for racially themed political attack ads

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It worked in 1988, why should 2008 be any different?

[boloboffin]

Except those people on exist in the minds of morons who think that there was anything racial about that advertisement.

Why they chose Hilton and Spears was because they are famous for being famous, and nobody thinks they really deserve the attention. Which they are trying to compare with Obama, who allegedly lacks substance and is all glamour.

***** you.

There are plenty of other people famous for being famous, and two white women known for their sexual issues were chosen to be superimposed over Barack Obama. Yes, this was an intentional "white woman" ad. Pack up your "moron" label and apply it to people who deserve it.

[Peephole]

The funny thing is that the McCain is so incompetent that they forgot the Hiltons are big donors.

[Dr Adequate]

There are plenty of other people famous for being famous ... Yeah, but Paris Hilton is famous for being famous for being famous.

[Tsukasa Buddha]

***** you.

Hm, don't know what goes in there... "Thank" maybe?

There are plenty of other people famous for being famous, and two white women known for their sexual issues were chosen to be superimposed over Barack Obama. Yes, this was an intentional "white woman" ad. Pack up your "moron" label and apply it to people who deserve it.

I'm sorry, who exactly are the popular non-female, non-white, non-whores who are famous for being famous now? Google just keeps on bringing up more and more stupid spoiled whores. And that's all that I can think of.



(And before anyone is offended, that is an allusion to South Park. It is the offensive one, not me. I swear :rolleyes: .)

[boloboffin]

Well, if we're going to examine terms so minutely, is Britney actually famous for being famous? I believe that there was the matter of a few best-selling records and a lifetime of being in the public eye, actually producing entertainment for people. It's only recently that her reputation hit the skids because of that immensely rubbernecking divorce of hers, in which she displayed her private parts to paparazzi (my guess being it was deliberate to ward off her ex-husband making sure similar pictures would hit the public).

Paris comes the closest. Yet she would never have caught the public eye to the degree that she did if it hadn't been for that sex tape. So she's not famous exactly for being famous, but for a widely downloaded sex tape. A fame on which she capitalized by again producing actual entertainment product (the Simple Life show).

So if we can include people who are actually producing a form of entertainment, there are a great deal many other people that could have been included in this advertisement, if it had just been about frivolous celebrity. How about David Beckham or Tiger Woods? Oh, wait, they don't have scandalous reputations. Brad Pitt? Well, the worst he did was sleep around on his wife perhaps, and now he's married to Jolie and they are the model people for sharing the wealth in their adoption of several needy children. So that's Pitt AND Jolie out. 50 Cent? Not famous enough for their target audience. Johnny Depp? Will Smith? They're good guys! You especially can't put Will Smith in the same advertisement with Barack...

How about Michael Vick and Roger Clemens? Hmm, not famous enough, right?

But really, how "famous" is Paris Hilton, the best example of "being famous for being famous" right now?

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/53/celebrities08_The-Celebrity-100_Rank.html

As I believe has been pointed out, Hilton didn't even make this list. Rachael Ray is on that list, for God's sake. And Paris Hilton is some example of hyperfame?

No, they chose two single white women who have distinctly tawdry aspects to their public persona to superimpose over Barack. This is a "white women" ad. This is what the McCain camp intended to do with this. Shame on them for it.

[Brainster]

No, they chose two single white women who have distinctly tawdry aspects to their public persona to superimpose over Barack. This is a "white women" ad. This is what the McCain camp intended to do with this. Shame on them for it.

Well, I guess that's it for Sebellius as VP material then. Can't have Obama appearing in ads with a white woman!

[Dr Adequate]

So if we can include people who are actually producing a form of entertainment, there are a great deal many other people that could have been included in this advertisement, if it had just been about frivolous celebrity. How about David Beckham or Tiger Woods? Oh, wait, they don't have scandalous reputations. Brad Pitt? Well, the worst he did was sleep around on his wife perhaps, and now he's married to Jolie and they are the model people for sharing the wealth in their adoption of several needy children. So that's Pitt AND Jolie out. 50 Cent? Not famous enough for their target audience. Johnny Depp? Will Smith? They're good guys! You especially can't put Will Smith in the same advertisement with Barack... Well yes. This is why they went with Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.

What they want to avoid, obviously, is reminding people that celebrity is often the result of being good at something, and that celebrities are often perfectly nice folks. Hence, they picked celebrities who are more famous for the less savory aspects of their lives than for their achievements. Really, who should they have picked? Certainly Paris Hilton has to go on the top of the list.

I think you're over-interpreting.

[chipmunk stew]

Well yes. This is why they went with Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.

What they want to avoid, obviously, is reminding people that celebrity is often the result of being good at something, and that celebrities are often perfectly nice folks. Hence, they picked celebrities who are more famous for the less savory aspects of their lives than for their achievements. Really, who should they have picked? Certainly Paris Hilton has to go on the top of the list.

I think you're over-interpreting.
Either way, McCain is "proud of that commercial":
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:bike:

Edit:
His mom thinks "it's kind of stupid":
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/robmc.mp4

[boloboffin]

Well, I guess that's it for Sebellius as VP material then. Can't have Obama appearing in ads with a white woman!

You will produce the distinctly tawdry aspects of Katherine Sebelius' public persona or retract the ******** argument.

[boloboffin]

Well yes. This is why they went with Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.

What they want to avoid, obviously, is reminding people that celebrity is often the result of being good at something, and that celebrities are often perfectly nice folks. Hence, they picked celebrities who are more famous for the less savory aspects of their lives than for their achievements. Really, who should they have picked? Certainly Paris Hilton has to go on the top of the list.

I think you're over-interpreting.

I disagree. I think the commercial is perfectly open to this interpretation and was meant to be.

As for who else they might have gone with...

Simon Cowell.

Shia LeBeouf would be a good one right now, after his recent drunk driving arrest.

Tom Arnold.

The Two Coreys.

Charlie Sheen (get a Truther meme out there at the same time).

Alex Rodriguez.

Ethan Hawke.

Hey, what about flashing a picture of a couple? Two nutty celebrities for one shot? Oh, but flashing a picture of a couple wouldn't have communicated the single side of the equation that they were going for. But there's plenty of nutty couples.

With a range of options, they went for two single white women known for a salacious past.

[Slayhamlet]

I disagree. I think the commercial is perfectly open to this interpretation and was meant to be.

As for who else they might have gone with...

Simon Cowell.

Why, to portray Obama as sneering and judgmental?

Shia LeBeouf would be a good one right now, after his recent drunk driving arrest.

Who the hell's that?

Tom Arnold.

The Two Coreys.

When's the last time they've been in the news?

Charlie Sheen (get a Truther meme out there at the same time).

An accomplished actor with several box office hits, a Golden Globe, and currently starring in a popular sitcom?

Alex Rodriguez.

What? Seriously?

Ethan Hawke.

Huh?

Hey, what about flashing a picture of a couple? Two nutty celebrities for one shot? Oh, but flashing a picture of a couple wouldn't have communicated the single side of the equation that they were going for. But there's plenty of nutty couples.

Got a list of couples who are talentless media whores?

With a range of options, they went for two single white women known for a salacious past.

They're known for getting (and actively seeking out) lots of tabloid media attention that most people feel they don't deserve.

Your argument is, frankly, ridiculous. Are you going to yell an obscenity at me now?

[boloboffin]

Britney Spears

Britney Jean Spears (born 2 December 1981) is an American singer, dancer, actress, author and occasional songwriter. Born in McComb, Mississippi and raised in Kentwood, Louisiana, Spears first appeared on national television as a contestant on the Star Search program in 1992 and went on to star on the television series The New Mickey Mouse Club from 1993–1994. After a brief membership with the pop musical group Innosense, Spears signed a recording contract with Jive Records, releasing her debut album ...Baby One More Time in 1999 which debuted at number one on the Billboard 200. The success of the album propelled Spears into stardom, establishing her as a pop icon and "bona fide pop phenomenon", credited for influencing the revival of teen pop in the late 1990s.[3]

The title-track of Spears debut album and its accompanying music video also established her as an international sex symbol, garnering controversy over the influence of her public image on teenage girls. Amidst further media scrutiny, Spears continued her career with three more consecutive number one studio albums; Oops!... I Did It Again (2000), Britney (2001), and In the Zone (2003). Spears subsequently became the first artist in the history of Nielsen SoundScan to have four consecutive albums debut at number one. Spears's personal life began to gain substantial media attention after her marriage to Kevin Federline in 2004. Their marriage ended two years later, resulting in an ongoing custody battle over their first child, born in 2005 and their second child, born in 2006.[6][7]

Spears is ranked as the eighth best-selling female recording artist in the United States according to the Recording Industry Association of America with 31 million certified albums and one of the world's best-selling music artists having sold an estimated 83 million records worldwide.

I believe this puts her in the same level at least as Charlie Sheen.

[Brainster]

You will produce the distinctly tawdry aspects of Katherine Sebelius' public persona or retract the ******** argument.

Oh, sorry I thought you said "white women ad". White women are okay, provided they're not tawdry. We are making progress here!

[boloboffin]

Oh, sorry I thought you said "white women ad". White women are okay, provided they're not tawdry. We are making progress here!

I did, but I also said "two single white women who have distinctly tawdry aspects to their public persona," which you full well know, since you quoted me. That's rather low of you, Brainster.

[Tricky]

The funny thing is that the McCain is so incompetent that they forgot the Hiltons are big donors.
Yeah, The Daily Show had a great bit on that. The Hiltons gave McCain the max allowed by an individual. Stewart (speaking as McCain) said something like, "Thanks for the cash, guys, now excuse me while I take a dump on your daughter."

[Nogbad]

Would you not feel cheated if the political ads didn't insult your intelligence? It is a sort of tradition now isn't it?

[Brainster]

I did, but I also said "two single white women who have distinctly tawdry aspects to their public persona," which you full well know, since you quoted me. That's rather low of you, Brainster.

You can't seem to make up your mind on whether Brittney is tawdry or a woman of singular accomplishments (which would match with Sebellius). At any rate, you're the one who's out of touch on this ad as revealed by Rasmussen (http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/only_22_say_mccain_ad_racist_but_over_half_53_see_ obama_dollar_bill_comment_that_way):

Sixty-nine percent (69%) of the nation’s voters say they’ve seen news coverage of the McCain campaign commercial that includes images of Britney Spears and Paris Hilton and suggests that Barack Obama is a celebrity just like them. Of those, just 22% say the ad was racist while 63% say it was not.

However, Obama’s comment that his Republican opponent will try to scare people because Obama does not look like all the other presidents on dollar bills was seen as racist by 53%. Thirty-eight percent (38%) disagree.

[chipmunk stew]

Paris Hilton skewers the McCain Britney/Paris ad, in an annoyingly brilliant piece of self-promotion:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/64ad536a6d

[boloboffin]

You can't seem to make up your mind on whether Brittney is tawdry or a woman of singular accomplishments (which would match with Sebellius).

It really is instructive to watch you spin and spin, Brainster. There's no need to make up my mind, Britney is both. And her accomplishments were cited to match her to Charlie Sheen, not Sebelius.

[Dr Adequate]

http://www.motherjones.com/riff_blog/mojo-photo-mccainposterlg.jpg

Messianic, anyone?

[Undesired Walrus]

I'm can't wait for that to come out on Xbox.

[Upchurch]

Messianic, anyone?
More Orwellian: WAR IS PEACE (born of wisdom).

[Pookster]

http://www.motherjones.com/riff_blog/mojo-photo-mccainposterlg.jpg

Messianic, anyone?


He's almost old enough to qualify.

[Pookster]

***** you.

There are plenty of other people famous for being famous, and two white women known for their sexual issues were chosen to be superimposed over Barack Obama. Yes, this was an intentional "white woman" ad. Pack up your "moron" label and apply it to people who deserve it.

They're two well known white women that have a recent history that most know about to some degree. Their escapades have been well publicized over the past year or two. Their recent fame isn't based on any skill or talent. They're reckless in how they do things. While I can't rule out your accusation, they were good choices for that type of ad and message McCain wanted to give out ... as childish as it was.

[Brainster]

It really is instructive to watch you spin and spin, Brainster. There's no need to make up my mind, Britney is both. And her accomplishments were cited to match her to Charlie Sheen, not Sebelius.

I suppose I really should take the time to figure out why you feel she has to be compared to Charlie Sheen, but at any rate, I was just needling you with the Sebelius can't be Obama's running mate comment. You know, humor, where you take a silly statement (no white women in ads with Obama) and take it to its logical but nevertheless ridiculous conclusion. I suppose I should have added a smiley for the humor-impaired.

Did you really think I was comparing Sebelius to Brittney or Paris? Seriously?

:rolleyes:

[boloboffin]

They're two well known white women that have a recent history that most know about to some degree. Their escapades have been well publicized over the past year or two. Their recent fame isn't based on any skill or talent. They're reckless in how they do things. While I can't rule out your accusation, they were good choices for that type of ad and message McCain wanted to give out ... as childish as it was.

Hence my list and zeroing in on Charlie Sheen. Certainly Sheen would have qualified for that list, and using someone like that would have guarded against the "white woman" charge. They clearly wanted this discussion, if only to bash Obama for the race card.

I suppose I really should take the time to figure out why you feel she has to be compared to Charlie Sheen, but at any rate, I was just needling you with the Sebelius can't be Obama's running mate comment. You know, humor, where you take a silly statement (no white women in ads with Obama) and take it to its logical but nevertheless ridiculous conclusion. I suppose I should have added a smiley for the humor-impaired.

Did you really think I was comparing Sebelius to Brittney or Paris? Seriously?

:rolleyes:

I couldn't rule out your motivation being "I do this kinda thing to him through the whole picture", but I have friends that love to hack me off because I'm funny when I'm exercised, apparently. So on I rolled.

[Pookster]

Hence my list and zeroing in on Charlie Sheen. Certainly Sheen would have qualified for that list, and using someone like that would have guarded against the "white woman" charge. They clearly wanted this discussion, if only to bash Obama for the race card.


I've seen far more about the exploits of Paris and Britney in the MSM than Charlie. I suspect that the general public has too. If I was going to pick two of the most effective people for that ad (that is if I was retarded enough to do an ad like that), I'd pick Paris and Britney. The "white woman" charge is just too hard for me to buy on it's face alone.

[Brainster]

I couldn't rule out your motivation being "I do this kinda thing to him through the whole picture", but I have friends that love to hack me off because I'm funny when I'm exercised, apparently. So on I rolled.

I'm funnier when I'm exorcised; the whole green vomit thing really cracks people up.

:D

I do think I'm going to cut back on posting in the Presidential Election subforum; both I and people I respect like you are getting a little too testy and it's starting to slop over into the 9-11 Conspiracy Theory forum as well.

[Undesired Walrus]

The McCain campaign not only chucks itself into the gutter, but decides it enjoys it there.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/08/hot-chick-dig-o.html

[Brainster]

The McCain campaign not only chucks itself into the gutter, but decides it enjoys it there.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/08/hot-chick-dig-o.html

Yeah, lotta people claiming there are too many white women in that one; although none of them are exactly what I would call hawt. Still I think what people are missing is that the ads are not just hitting Obama on the celebrity angle, but they're working in an attack on taxes as well.

[Upchurch]

Still I think what people are missing is that the ads are not just hitting Obama on the celebrity angle, but they're working in an attack on taxes as well.
And that straw man (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/more_tax_deceptions.html) blowed up real good, too!

[Dr Adequate]

The Christian group Focus On The Family have appealed to their fellow-idiots to pray for rain to wash out Obama's acceptance speech.

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Officially, the Obama camp is making light of the threat. "The ritual will go ahead as planned", said David Plouffe, "and when the Crown is placed upon His head in the witness of the Seventy-Five Thousand, at that moment He shall arise in His full power. So is it written, so mote it be!"

But behind the scenes, there are rumors that Obama's staff are "building a very large boat", and that they are "collecting two of every kind of animal, except elephants and fundamentalists".

[Dr Adequate]

The Christian group Focus On The Family have appealed to their fellow-idiots to pray for rain to wash out Obama's acceptance speech.

ztO8wZz029Y I'm just sayin' ...